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How to Build a String Trellis for Tomatoes and Cucumbers || Black Gumbo
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- Опубликовано: 20 дек 2020
- In this Garden how to I'll show you how to build a string trellis 4 tomatoes or cucumbers or any vining plant. This is a classic string trellis used to train a single Vine up a single string. This method has been popular with many gardeners, but I followed to the method employed by Josh Sattin. this is preparation for my Spring Garden in which I will be growing indeterminate varieties of tomatoes. I will train them up the single strings to keep them tidy and healthy. Just trellis system uses T-posts, PVC fittings, and electrical conduit. it is very easy, very portable, very durable, and not very expensive when compared to the many years of you so you will get from it.
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I like your laid back way of talking. You are easy to follow and I like that you are not picky picky. Thanks for sharing:)
Charles Dowding puts the strings right under the roots of the transplants he puts in, so as the roots grow they hold the string down even more.
"It's too much work here man. I'm just gardening". The best line ever😄
I got Home Depot to cut the conduit pipe so I didn’t have to. So easy to put together and it is a one time - have it for years to come.
@@hopeup2792 My dad built a 10x20 tent frame with this conduit pipe over 30 years ago. We still have it and it's in good shape . Definitely use this metal pipe stuff if you want it to last!
A tip I use when driving posts with a driver like yours. Release your hands on the the downward stroke before it hits the post. This will eliminate the vibrations on your arms and shoulders. Let the weight of the driver do the work.
"Its too much work man" instantly subscribed
I appreciate your approach to gardening. Your teaching is easy to follow.
My husband is an engineer, and you’re right....he never works without a level, plumb line, tape measure, etc. Sometimes it drives me nuts because he has to get it perfect and it takes so much longer. (But it always looks amazing!) I’m more like you: I just eyeball everything, throw it together, and call it good 😆
"Boy, you wouldn't want me for a roller coaster designer."
Me: 'pops on helmet and bunkers down before giving the thumbs up'
Great video, will be doing this, thank you! 😊
“You wouldn’t want to hire me as a roller coaster builder” I beg to differ, all of the fun roller coasters look like your tomato trellis 😆 Just kidding you, those are nice trellises, thanks for the video
Have done the "drop string" support for the last few years. Had figured out how to drive baling twine into the ground with a narrow stick. works for the most part but sometimes it won't stay. This year I finally figured out to run a line at ground level with only a few stakes. Then I tie the drop line to it. I can fasten it then move it to the plant. I don't need 30 stakes for my San Marzano plants or 24 for my Amish Paste or 5 more for the cherry tomatoes!!
Nice cabbages btw. Good job!
I love it that you don't worry about if something is perfect or not, tomatoes don't know the difference, happy Holidays thanks for helpful gardening details!☺
I gotta say the title "Trellis to make you jealous" is pretty catchy and I see several videos referencing it that way. Pretty cool that he started some phrase and it's catching on.
Yeah Josh Sattin is Awesome!! I first saw this on his channel about a year ago. Good work!
I think I may use this type of trellis this year. Looks pretty simple! I already have t posts and the driver for another project so yay me!
"I'm just gardening" same vibe
The special guest 'Good Girl' made the video. The trellis system was nice too!
I'm a little jealous of your trellis 😉
I love how you are always learning
Love my PVC Ts. I use pipe or bamboo.I put Powerade bottles on the ends so I don’t poke my brains out walking by in a tomato frenzy.
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I take a bright colored pool noodle and cut off about 10 inches of it and tape it to the ends
A perfect Trellis put together by a non engineer but as for the Roller Coaster Builder I'll just call in the experts LOL . Another great video, and looks like I will be doing the same next year in Oz ....
Hello Brenda from Michigan. Ty so Much for this video. I've been trying to come up with a inexpensive way on trellising my peppers tomatoes squash zucchini. This is perfect for my 25 by 9 Garden Thank Youu Sir.😁😁💯
Definitely going to try this style of trellis this year for my tomatoes. Thanks Scott!
I am planning to use this trellis system in my 2021 garden next spring. I saw it on Josh’s channel last summer. I really enjoy your channel as well as Josh’s.
Scott, that is what I am going to do on my new property in my new bed. So simple and easy. Thanks for the tip.
Looks GREAT! I'm jealous. Thanks for teaching how to make them. I'll be building them.
thank you so much for this video! I am brand new to gardening and I plan on growing mini pumpkins with this method. You have a very natural way of speaking to the camera, it reminds me of my grandpa. keep it up!
I may try this next year. I just put garden stakes and tied jute between. I then tied jute hanging down and used clips to attach to the tomatoe plants.
Nice little trellis system Scott. I have seen on a couple of channels where they train not only tomatoes, but also other plants like cucumbers and squash to run up the strings like that.
Oh to have a garden I could work in December...
Come to Texas.
I would suggest wearing ear plugs while using the T Post driver. It gets loud.
A great idea for a trellis.
Thank you for sharing. I’d seen two previous videos on this, but you have convinced me at the easiness of your explanation.
I also borrowed his T-post trellis system this year. It works well and it's portable. Next year I'll be building raised beds and I'll have to move everything so this was a perfect solution for this year. Next year I'll have a high tension wire similar to a greenhouse.
Thanks for adding this. I was interested in doing my tomatoes different for the coming year.
Awesome quick and dirty trellis system Scott. Quick way to get those fruit vines off the ground and use the vertical space. Less disease pressures. Now you just have to be up on top of the pruning them tomatoes ;-)
We did it!! It is awesome! thanks!
Excellent video on building the trellis!
I have a Skidsteer to put my t-post in. Well I do have the room to do this...😋😄
Did this last season and it worked great 🍅🍅🍅🍅💖
Too funny! I bought one of those stake pounders this year to get my composting started. Been hating the teepee set up I've been using for my tomatoes! See a spring project in my future!
Your garden looks amazing
Hi. Yeah I am jealous. I have been looking for at posts for months , they are expensive though . Last year we build this system with bamboo but the windiest year ever and some bamboo snapped or bent ... despite that the harvest was still great 😊 So this year , scaffolding poles will be driven in the ground , then I’ll fix some sort of either metal grid mesh ... Roots and Refuge style . Can’t wait ! Your garden is really lush. It is so bright ,unlike here , dull , grey, gloomy , damp if not wet ...argh Britain!
I’m liking this
Your garden really looks fantastic!
Very nice!
10A here...my indeterminates are over 10 feet high!!! Unbelievable!
Thanks Scott! I’m going to do this!
I'm gonna try this!
I'm using a 10 ft t post and building ours tomorrow. Really love Joshs channel and new sub here. 👍🌱
Getting the jump on summer.
I built my main posts cheaper than t-posts.
I dug holes and buried tree branches from the trimmings to get more sunlight in my own back yard. The branches are long, thick and straight. And after removing the smaller branches, I have 9 foot 'natural' posts. Two to three feet in the ground, and six to seven feet to hang wire across. Not as clean looking as t-posts or 4 X 4's but I like the way they look. Very natural.
BTW? I spent 12 years building fences commercially, so I feel your pain with that t-post driver!
You might try using some tomato hooks some time. Then you can "drop and lean" your plants and they can keep growing almost ad infinitum.
Thanks, I'll look that up.
@@ScottHead Try this video that shows how it's done: ruclips.net/video/NxBDVFEycww/видео.html at about 4:45 the action starts.
You know, I actually saw that video a while back, thanks fo pointing it out again, Good idea for sure.
@@ScottHead In California my tomato stems will reach more than 15 feet long, by the end of their lives, so the lower and lean method is a great solution.
Super boulot (job)tanks you sire👍👍👍💪💪💪
Good idea!! Thanks
Right on great job
As soon as I heard the Sand hill Cranes in your video I recognized them. They fly right over my house sometimes. They are pretty loud and at first I didn't know what they were. I live in Florida and I enjoy seeing a lot of larger birds walking about on mine and my neighbor's lawns that I never did see when I lived in Missouri.
Your winter crop looks great!! Always interested in what your doing next. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!
Very nice 👍
love your channel
Awesome, I’ve just started to watch your channel and I love it, you say things that I understand just nice and simple plus you really do explain properly, I only have a very small space so I am going to have a go at container gardening, I loved that video I’m also having a go at the grow lights, I e just planted beetroot and they are coming along. Thank you once again, please keep up the good work I will have to go back and watch all your videos. Love from Australia 🦋❤️
Merry Christmas and a Happy new year.
Same to you!
My raised beds have wood sides so it is extremely simple to attach a string at the bottom that runs from one side of the bed to the other along the row where your plants are set out. Then tie the string to the top conduit, run it down to the ground and loop it under the bottom string then come back up and retie to the conduit. That produces a double loop which is much stronger and is anchored top and bottom. Plus there is no need to drive in stake for each single string. Using this easy trick there is no way for the stakes to pull free, It takes much less time and cost almost nothing.
You can also just loop around base of the stem before winding up to top. Holds fine
Awesome video
That’s how I grow my tomatoes here in central Florida. My trellis is made of wood, and it works fantastic. Much easier to keep the tomatoes under control and keep the diseases away. I trim off all the lower leaves as the tomatoes grow taller. About 2-3 ft up from the ground. I’m positive you’ll have great success doing it this way!
I hope it will be a banner year for tomatoes.
I hope the coupling holds up. If it doesn't you could use a whole 10 ft piece, just over lap in pvc piece.
I like this idea. I need to rebuild a trellis this year and will be looking into this technique. I am starting tomato seeds this week. 🤠
a trick: watch movies on flixzone. I've been using them for watching a lot of movies recently.
@Arthur Wesley Definitely, have been using flixzone} for since november myself =)
@Arthur Wesley Yea, I've been using flixzone} for since december myself =)
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This is way smarter then what I tried to do 😂 I tried horizontal string and the weight on the plants just crippled it entirely. I better stick to soil science and away from engineering
I am new to your channel sir. I really enjoyed watching you talk about the trellis and the cranes. Wow that’s cool. You have a peaceful channel, I just subscribed can’t wait to see more of your videos. I am going to build this trellis right now.
I have two raised beds one is 2 ft x 8 ft snd my other is 4 ft by 10 ft. I am doing a square foot garden this year and i should have done this trellis first bc my beans are getting big!
Yeah we broke down too and bought a driver for the tposts this year, only took us 25 years😂😂😂
I would use either ridged conduit or galvanized plumbing pipe, the emt conduit might get you through 1 year if you're lucky
Matt h, I use the emt conduit and leave it out all winter in upstate NY with bent hoops. Haven't had any issues at all with it wearing after 3 years.
Been using it for years and looks exactly like it did when I bought it.
Like everything but the height. Your short changing several months of your indeterminate varieties full potential. I live in zone 7 and most varieties will easily reach 7 to 8 ft before October. Several cherry varieties will max out at the full height of 9ft of my system. The September production in the upper tiers are usually the best tomatoes of the year in quantity, size, and taste. in Texas you could grow them 10 ft if pruned properly. We remove everything but the vine once a tier has finished producing. Seems odd at first to prune that heavily because by the end of the season you have a bare 7 ft vine with all your leaves and fruit the last foot or so which allows the plant to focus on that area. Not to mention minimal disease issues that seems to plague tomato gardens late in the season.
The problem I have is summer heat. Once late June is here, the flowers will not longer produce viable pollen and the production will be done. Once it is consistently in the mid 90s during the day and mid 80s at night, there will be no more fruit. Rather than nurse the plants somehow through the heat of summer just to hope they re-start production in the fall isn't worth the effort, I have summer loving crops to put in.
Thanks for replying Scott. We generally have 90s plus and extremely high humidity from mid June through August. Without a doubt the latter part is the toughest time to keep them going strong. As I mentioned before pruning makes all the difference. Instead of trying to keep an entire plant hydrated and producing fruit by heavy pruning the plant is only focusing on the top 20%. Regular feeding every other week helps with the flower and fruiting. It really makes a difference. I've been growing tomatoes for over 50 years and the trellis and heavy pruning methods that I've incorporated the last ten years have been a game changer for the hot summer period. We sometimes use the trellis and supports to "cover" the crop with a uv limiting 6'X12' row cover when we have a long dry period of upper 90s. With these methods the tomatoes drop production some but not as bad as previous. Most of these methods have been copied from small indepent commercial growers in our area. Their niche for the most part is the heirloom market and many have switched from conventional methods to this for the overall higher profit per tomato. Little more maintenance and less shelf life but again it must be a decent return because the demand for the tastier tomatoes is increasing. Something to consider. Thanks again
Your garden looks great. I am in San Antonio and have been trying to figure out the right timing for growing things the first frost wiped out a lot of the fall veggies and all the winter veggies are taking along time to grow. I am also finding out that the elevated beds are not great for winter gardening because the cold air hits the bottom root system. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Corgi,I miss my corgis !
I can't start my toms until March... but that's normal here in the UK.
Yes I hear the cranes - that's as close as we get to hearing dinosaurs!
Got a idea Sir; Because you help us I like to suggest before you can run your face into the deadly end of the 1/2" conduit steel put a cap on the end might need expoxy but I am copying your setup and having not got mine done but I will add caps for safety.
Yes, and someone suggested tennis balls on the ends too.
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“Don’t hire me to build a rollercoaster.” LOL
LOL!
BTW, I'm going to start my tomatoes and peppers on Christmas Eve. It's an experiment to see if I'm able to get ripe fruit before all my sun disappears from my patio in late May. It's weird here where I live (zone 8 DFW area TX)...I get full sun during the Fall, Winter and part of Spring, then the sun moves off my patio and stays on the railing, which leaves my patio in full shade during the Summer. So we'll see how it'll work!
Ok but why
I also broke down and bought one this year. Whether that was a good idea or not , I don't know. I have never had issues driving them before except took forever. This year the first post I drove with the driver I busted the water line. Uh oh, $53 down for the plumber, luckily he was working near by already or it could have cost a lot more, we are in the boonies.
Ouch! Ooops!
Awesome video. I would like to do this. I am not handy at all. Would u be able to post list of what i need to get. Tk u❤👍
I will try to do so in an upcoming video. I'm assembling a smaller version of this trellis right now.
Middle of January? I'm in Montana it's 20 below outside!😂
I swear sometimes it’s like you’re in my mind😂😂😂... I’m trying this same idea but with bamboo.... there will be no cutting. beating, or measuring.... it would be a mess..
@Play Load MerryXmas to you and your family
I hope HomeDepot to cut the conduit pipe so I didn’t have to. So simple and it is done for years to come.
Because I making a new bed just for tomatoes but Im worry about light exposure
The soil in my backyard is still water logged. I am busy building beds on our new property for the Spring.
Great tips! Thank you❤
I've used those post drivers before id whole lot rather use a sledge hammer works way better to me
Looks great. And you just answered my question as to when to start tomato seeds. Thanks. I am going to start them in my little greenhouse 8'x6' and have a heater as well. What temperature should I keep in the greenhouse?
Never had a greenhouse so I'm not really able to give a definitive answer.
@@ScottHead Where do you start your seeds and what temp do you keep? That may help. Thank you.
I start them indoors in January, around 80 degrees or so, maybe 85. My thermometer only registers the ambient temps around my seed trays.
@@ScottHead Thanks again.
I find that you don't have to tie your string to a stake (whatever you use) at ground level. Let the string hang loose then clip the first clip to the string at a branch holding the string down - the plant's weight clipped to the string holds it upright. Also make sure your "string" is of a strong material - lots of weight there.
Sandhill crane=ribeye in the sky. Clips work great but are a pain when removing plants.
Hey guys, when your driving the T post using that thing; protecting your ears is important. It’s very loud!
Great idea. I would like to try it, but here's the thing - I tried single stemming my tomato plants last year with the idea of being able to plant them closer (don't have much of a disease peoblem in hot dry California, so that's not the issue). The problem is that when our multiple heat waves hit this year, my tomato plants literally fried...it was like I had removed their protective clothing and left them exposed to the elements. I felt like such a bad Mommy! So I won't be single-stemming again. Wondering if this method of trellising still makes sense, or whether I should fall back on the good old tried and tested tomato cage.
Maybe more foliage would make sense for you. The string method is generally associated with poly tunnels and greenhouses where temp and humidity are more stable. We have humidity, and heat fries my tomatoes no matter what after about June, so I'll try this method and see how it goes. I also bought disease resistant hybrids this time, and I know there are some heat-tolerant tomato hybrids out there like "Heat Master" that may be worthconsidering.
Everybody gives credit to this trellis system to Josh Sattin, but actually the credit should go to Connor Crickmore of Neversink Farm.
It has actually been used for much longer, it is referenced in old gardening books too. A good method, I like it.
@@ScottHead I've been using it for several years but I also use roller hooks attached to the conduit by a zip tie. This way I can lower and lean the plants as they get taller. I generally have tomato and cucumber plants in excess of 10 to 12 feet tall.
Would this kind of trellis support growing cantelope and melons?
Yes, with heavier conduit at thye top.
What is the sun trajectory compared to your tomato bed ....I see you will do double road they will get the same light .?
The sun traverses perpendicular to my beds. Also, keeping them well pruned allows sunlight to reach the plants.
@@ScottHead awesome ....Thank's a lot Scott
Ru in Florida or California I see the palm trees
Texas coast, near Houston.
Hi G.Scot.I have a fig tree about 20 years. And it has never gave me very many figs.Birds are whatever critters. What do you subject? I'm thinking cutting it down. I can use the space.
Fig trees can be temperamental. I just got rid of one that never fruited. If it doesn't get a lot of sun, it will produce less. If it brings you frustration, chop it down. :-)
Is this there a lightning risk to using the conduit?
Let’s see it after the fact…in action once the tomato plants are growing and have grown
Love the trellis. I made a similar one but I used PVC pipes and it sits on my patio to serve as sun blocking over my greens this past summer. The PVC pipes are on the bottom also, using four 6' and four 3' pipes plus my end couplings, and I draped the shade cloths on the tops using shower curtain hooks. Again thanks. It's a tall rectangle.
QUESTION???? My compost bin tumbler is infested with gnats. I have to open it daily and have a misting spray bottle with neem oil and dish soap preparation. The misting spray doesn't kill the gnats but it gives me a chance to dump stuff into the bin and keep them out of my face. How do I kill the gnats without poisoning my compost? I appreciate any help I can get.
I have no idea how to get rid of the gnats. They are breeding in the compost most likely,when it is finished compost it will likely be bug-free. I don't have any suggestions for how to kill them while the compost is decomposing
@@ScottHead thank you Scott for your prompt reply. I've been dumping everything in a brown paper bag, wetting the bag and then dumping it into the bin real fast and slamming it close while misting the bugs. I wish they die off SOON. Again, thanks. You are blessing to us.
Will this also work for cucumbers & squash? Thank you!
Thanks Scott! Do you think this system would be good for growing hot peppers, too? I’ve sown seeds for jalapeños, habaneros, hatch and a few other types.
I would think it could be useful but I like large tomato cages for peppers.
@@ScottHead thanks for your speedy response! They are grown in pots in a greenhouse, except the jalapeños, which prefer being outside. I’ll look for tomato cages.
You could use any number of options, I just like the more rounded and full bushy pepper plant, I have also used bamboo poles and simply staked branches that needed it.
@@ScottHead that’s pretty much what I’ve been doing. Nice to know I’m not doing too badly as a hobby gardener. 😅
Just wondering, can we use PVC pipe instead of electrical conduit?
I don't think it would hold up with the weight of the plants.