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The “Negro” in Afro-Arabian Muslim Consciousness by Dr. Abdullah Ali
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- Опубликовано: 27 фев 2017
- Dr. Abdullah Ali lectures on the concept of Blackness in the Islamic Tradition. His lecture will be followed by a moderated conversation with special guest Kristin George from the Institute for the Study of Societal Issues | UC Berkeley.
Clickable Lecture Outline:
0:0:0 Bismillah/Opening Dua
0:0:40 Introduction of Event (Imam Zaid Shakir)
0:02:39 Quran Recitation (Yusuf Sayyal)
0:06:03 Explanation of Event/Kristin George Introduction (Imam Zaid Shakir)
0:07:20 Dr. Abdullah Bin Hamed Ali Introduction (Kristin George)
0:08:51 Bismillah/Opening Dua (Dr. Abdullah Ali)
0:10:38 Summary of the Topic: The "Negro" in Afro-Arabian Muslim Consciousness
0:16:00 The Assertion of the Dissertation
0:17:00 Origin of the Term "Negro"
0:24:43 Islam in Africa
0:29:46 Racism at a Scholarly Level and in Fiqh
0:30:34 Maliki Fiqh and Imam Malik (RA)
0:36:59 Final Points and Preparation for Discussion
0:38:49 Reminder of Sponsors (Imam Zaid Shakir)
0:40:45 Opening of Discussion (Dr. Abdullah Ali, Kristen George)
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The brother done an excellent lecture, but he seems a little apologetic when talking about racist scholars. He should've just blazed them no holds barred
Salamun Alaykum ,suhnanallah that brotha up there tap dancing ahki -
That right don't bitch up.
Islam should be apologetic for its very existence!
@@guccianddodul now We don't take lectures form a Caste based Pegan Religion which is by definition racist and disgusting to its core
@@muntasifsusmit As much as your remarks sting I must admit that they are true! But then again you worship a paedophile! How do you defend that?
HAIR OF THE ARABS VS HAIR OF THE AJAM
The hair type of an individual can usually indicate which race a person is. According to the Arab scholars of the past, this was one of the factors that drew apart the Arab and non Arab race.
Ibn Qutaibah Ibn Jawaaliqy the author of Sharh Adab Al Kitaab said, ” Kinky/wooly hair is from the Arabs and lank/straight hair is from the Ajam. … lank/ straight hair is most prevalent amongst the non Arabs of Rome and Faaris(Persia) and kinky / wooly hair is most prevalent amongst the Arabs.”
”الجعد من العرب والسبط من العجم...شعره جعدا غير سبط لأن السبوطة غالبة علىشعورالعجم من الروم والفرس وجعودةالشعرهي الغالبة على شعورالعرب”
شرح أدب الكاتب لابن قتيبة ( ص 242 ) ابن الجواليقي (466 - 540 هـ = 1073 - 1145 م) قَدَّمَ لهمصطفى صادق الرافعي
الناشر: دار الكتاب العربي، بيروت
alajamwalarab.com/hair-of-the-arabs-vs-hair-of-the-ajam/
There are different types of black groups and Zanj is definitely not the correct term for the translation "Negro". This just perpetuates the misconceptions.
alajamwalarab.com/Aswad
Those from the West African diaspora are not neither are they Zanj
alajamwalarab.com/my-name-is-not-bilal/
Early photos of Mubarak, his hair was kinky..as he rose in stature, he changed the texture of his hair. To please the caucasian no doubt.
Maa shaa Allah the brother did a good job and perhaps pressure didn't allow him to explain things properly or maybe he just isn't sure yet but the Arabs were definitely a black race . Udmah means dark brown to jet black .Dancing around the terms doesn't help .
The great scholar Al Thaa’labi said in his book Fiqqatu Luggha wa Al Arabiyyah,Page 348.
”The colour Adam is black(ness) in humans and white(ness)in camels.”
قال ابو منصور الثعالبي في كتابه فقة اللغة ص ٣٤٨
الادم من الناس السود و من الابل الابيض
فقة اللغة و سر العربية
ابو منصور الثعالبي
Then you have the term Shadeed Al Udmah which means jet black!
Ibn Sakeet tell us in his book Kitaab Al Al Faadh ( pages 152-153 ) that
''They say from the black men he is As Shadeed Al Udmah and from them is the Adlam and he is As Shadeed Al Udmah''
قال ابن السكيت في كتاب الافاظ ص ١٥٢ - ١٥٣
وقالوا من الرجال الأسود وهو الشديد الأدمة
Imaam Al Alaamah Al Dhahabi clears this up too in his book Seera A’laam Al Nubalaa Chapter 2 page 168
‘They say Aswad (jet black) and this means whoever is covered in blackness. They say (jet )black or Shadeed Al Udmah.”
سير أعلام النبلاء ج٢ ص ١٦٨
قالوا اسود و كذا كل من غلب عليه السواد قالوا اسود او شديد الادمة
alajamwalarab.com/index.php/adam/
The Arabs were proud of their blackness and would discriminate amongst themselves and others according to tribes and NOT COLOUR and since the Arabs were jet black and other hues of brown this meant that they shared the same skin tones as the Abyssinians .
And Ibn Yaeesh mention in his book Sharh Al Mufassal page 48
The meaning of Al Aswad is because the majority of ( the Arabs ) are brown and jet black in colour
و ذكر ابن يعيش في كتابه شرح المفصل ص ٤٨
المراد الاسود لان غالب عليم السمرة والسواد
Read more here: alajamwalarab.com/index.php/i-was-sent-to-the-red-and-the-black/
Moses alayhi as salaam was Jet black too
Read the following about Moses who was also mentioned in the Quran.
“Put your hand into the pocket of your garment, and it will come out white without disease
تخرج بيضاء من غير سوء
The miracle here was that he was black and his hand turned white.(Quran 28:32)
To further back this claim up about his complexion is in various narrations but here is one for you :
In Musnad Ahmed Ibn Habal , Chapter 50 page 488
The Messenger of Allah may Allah's peace and blessings be upon him said, And the description of Moses may peace be upon him : '' And I saw Moses intensely black skinned''
The words used here are Asham Adam which in another example which shows us how Adam and intense blackness are related.
مسند أحمد بن حنبل ج 50 ص 488
قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم في وصفه لموسى عليه السلام: "و رأيت موسى أسحم آدم". رواه أحمد وغيره وصححه الأرناؤوط..
Read more here: alajamwalarab.com/index.php/musa/
Bilal may Allah be pleased with him was black and had the same complexion as many of the other Arabs .
''Whoever saw Bilal would say he is Adam Shadeed Al Udmah ( jet black )''
عن مكحول قال : حدثني من رأى بلالا رجلا آدم ، شديد الأدمة ، نحيفا ، طوالا
Read more: alajamwalarab.com/index.php/bilal-and-abu-dhar/
Description of Ali may allah be pleased with him.
''Ali ibn Abi Taalib as Adam Shadeed Al-Udma (black-skinned)
وكان علي آدم شديد الادمة، ثقيل العينين، ضخم البطن، أصلع ذا عضلات ومناكب، في أذنيه شعر قد خرج من أذنه، وكان إلى القصر أقرب,
Read more: alajamwalarab.com/index.php/ali-ibn-abi-talib/
Description of Umar may Allah be pleased with him
'' Zir ibn Habaysh and other than him recorded that Umar was Adam Shadeed Al Udmah and most of the scholars of the days of the people and their biographies and their news knew that.
ذكره زر بن حبيش وغيره بأنه كان آدم شديد الأدمة وهو الأكثر عند أهل العلم بأيام الناس وسيرهم وأخبارهم
Read more: alajamwalarab.com/index.php/umar-ibn-khattab/
Ibn Al Qayyim Al Jawziyyah in his book Al Manaar Al Maneef fee Al Saheeh Wal Daeef
And from it are the narrations disparaging the people of Habasha and Sudaan, all of it is lies'' Like the narration, ''Al Zanj whenever he is full he fornicates and whenever he is hungry he steals’
Some racist narrations debunked
alajamwalarab.com/index.php/racist-narrations-debunked/
White people were rare in that area in that time
In Seera A'laam Al Nubalaa Imaam Al Dhahabi , said
“Red, in the dialect of the Arabs means a pale white complexion and it was a colour that was rare amongst them.''
Read more : alajamwalarab.com/index.php/ahmar/
Here is an example of what the arabs used to say . Not the Prophet Mohammed!
Yaa son of a red woman
Ibn Atheer narrates in his book Al Niyaahyah Fee Ghareeb Al Hadeeth Wal Athar Chapter 1 Page 440
''And in the hadeeth Ali .. A man from the Mawaali opposed him so Ali said , '' Shut up you son of a red Ijaan '' ,meaning son of a slave woman. The Al Ijaan is the area between the anus and the scrotum or vulva'' and this is the way the Arabs talk when being derogatory and insulting’'
Imam Ala Dhahabi didn't only say wheat colour but he said wheat colour with a visible blackness. In other words, a wheatish complexion with a black tint which equals to darker than wheat itself . You (Dr) could pass for this yourself..
In Seera A'laam Al Nubalaa, Imaam Al Dhahabi , said''If the Arab said someone is white, they mean that he is a wheatish colour with a b that can be seen’'.
"إن العرب إذا قالت: فلان أبيض ، فإنهم يريدون الحنطي اللون بحلية سوداء’'
Al Thaa'lab is quoted in Lisan Al Arab, he said,
'' The Arabs do not say a man is white to mean that he is white in colour. It is only said to mean that the person is pure and free from any defects.''
''العرب لا تقول : رجل أبيض من بياض اللون إنما الأبيض عندهم الطاهر النقي من العيوب''
Read more: alajamwalarab.com/index.php/abyadh/
Abu Bedoin Brother, you should have been giving this talk! Have you got any more reading recommendations, have you written any papers yourself?
بارك الله فيك اخي الفاضل.
@ Abu Bedoin thanks alot i enjoyed reading the links you provided.It made one thing abundantly clear... those people/muslims if you will have a inherent problem with the highly melinated skin.
nice brother, were you from
It's even been said that Prophet Solomon (peace be upon him) was dark skinned. Have you come by information regarding that?
Beautiful lecture.. wish it was longer. JazakAllah Khair
Zayd, Usaama and Umm Ayman are actually all from the same tribe and they were all black.
And so was the prophets second wife sawda bint zumah and also his Egyptian wife Maria
One thing people forget is that the ottomans came into Arabia and the black or dark skined inhabitants welcomed them to rid. Them of the byzantine Christians, the turks attacked the black Arabs forcing Some to migrate to North or west africa
I would love if this was in podcast format so I could listen to it as I drive to and from work
RUclips premium ;)
the original Arabs were black and brown
Al Udma الأدمة means blackness and السمرة As Sumra means brownness
The turks would be classified as white our fair skined, they where called saljuk turks and mamulk turks and they sided with Portuguese to attack the magrib (Morocco Tunisia) the sultans of the magrib migrated from Arabia due to ottoman turk oppression, the Europeans called the black dark skined Arabs Moors along with their West North african counterparts
Thank u and barakallahu wafik for your great contribution ya sheikh. ....I just wanted to add that when Africans say white they mean brown or copper colour complexion and they call Europeans mainly red...
The ancient Arabs also did the same
Allahu Akbar!
Oscar Jensen 5442
Al Dhahabi didn't say that abyad means wheat colored. He said it means hinti (wheat) colored with a black hilya. Do a youtube search for my video The Correct Description of the Prophet Muhammad's Complexion and you'll understand better the meaning of his description in sha Allah.
Oh oh did someone hurt ur feelings
@@happyvirgil568 What do you mean?
highly informative....thanks ~
Issa Suwedi
Umm Ayman was not a Habashi Ethiopian woman she was an Arab from the tribe of Himyar
From where did you get this information of her not being Habashi?
@@letsbuild7298 this guy doesn’t know, umm ayman was black and yes she was as a lot of himyaris were, mixed with Ethiopian, even bilals father was arab but his mom was black and that is why abu dharr called him son of a black woman
Very knowledgeable talk jzkhair.
Post-racial era:It is not about celebrating who you are dummy! It’s about removing barriers and institutional racism.
As Salaam Alaykum, my brother. Would it not work or be more acceptable if we said, The African American in Muslim Consciousness or Al Islam?
I think he's trying to point to the root of the perspective which predates the trans-Atlantic slave trade and formation of African American identity and painting a wider picture of the idea of the "negro" being equivalent to the Arabic word "zanj".
He's still a slave !
Arab was Black. And the midle east is part of Africain. In reality
@yohan John ..... Who wrote that crap? Mohamnes waa from Quraysh tribe of SUDAN..... He was no doubt BLACKER THAN BLACK as SUDANESE are.
This was amazing. Weneed more like this i hate this anti black vibe from "muslim ummah" here in europe thats also the case.
Brother, unfortunately there are many things that you said that are inaccurate. I'll just mention one here. You said that Amru ibn Al Aas's mother was Ethiopian. That's not true. She was a pure Arab. Who told you that she was Ethiopian?
ربنا يبارك فيكم
How about that we celebrate Humanity regardless of what shade of color we are but turning towards the one the maker of all things that the most righteous of us who serve him and practice righteousness not what we look like yeah it is a challenge but I believe that the difference of us in shades of color is a test from the Almighty
True Semitic people's were Brown people
The byzantine kingdom stretched from Turkey to Jerusalem
Asalamaleykuim want l know Zanzibar Words means beutifull women in perscion .
5:13
God did not said Beduins God said A'rabs witch is the name of the pagan beduins.
Stop blaming the whte man on these issues - Look into fixing Islam:
-Surat 39:60 "And on the Day of Resurrection you will see those who lied about Allah [with] their *faces blackened.* Is there not in Hell a *residence for the arrogant?"*
-Ibn Abbas: The Messenger of Allah said: "The *Black Stone* descended from the Paradise, and it was *more white than milk,* then it was *blackened by the sins* of the children of Adam." -Jami` at-Tirmidhi Book 9, Hadith 70 (877)
You're grasping at straws, speaking in english without knowing understanding arabic language in whole. Even in the translation of the scripture and narration, you are trying too hard to find the racism where there's none while there are countless other verses and narrations in Islam that are against racism. Sorry, even the Prophet himself is believed to be of a dark-skinned tribe (Quraysh tribe).
@@ahmaddeedatibrahim6631 quraish are white they aren’t dark skin all my arab friends said the prophet was white
@@babsjob8729 At most, hadeeths described the Prophet as fair. But the more authentic reports (such as by Anas ibn Malik in Jami' Tirmidhi') saying the prophet was neither 'al-abyad al-amhaq' nor 'adam'. He was definitely not white.
@@ahmaddeedatibrahim6631 Salam, there actually is no Hadith that describes Prophet Muhammed PBUH as “Fair”. Well, it does but we have to look at how the Arabic Language was used by the Ancient Arabs. In the majority of Hadiths is he described with the Term “Abyad”. In the Arabic Language does this indeed mean White HOWEVER it’s not the White we think about today. The Term “Ahmar” (Red) was used for Fairskinned people just as there is a Hadith which says “I was sent to the Red and Black”.
Al Dhahabi (b.1274 CE) said in his Book Seera A’laam Al Nubalaa: Chapter 2, page 168
“Red in the dialect of the Arabs means a pale white complexion & it was a colour that was rare amongst them.”
الحمراء ، في خطاب أهل الحجاز : هي البيضاء بشقرة ، وهذا نادر فيهم
Ibn Abdull Barr (b.978 CE) said in his Book Al Tamheed lima fee Al Muwataa min Al Maany wa Al Asaaneed: Chapter 16, page 169
“And the metaphor for the red is the white just like the way the messenger of Allah said: - I was sent to the red and the black, he meant the white and the black.”
وقد يكون الأحمر كناية عن الأبيض كما قال - صلى الله عليه وسلم - : بعثت إلى الأحمر والأسود يريد الأبيض والأسود
@@ahmaddeedatibrahim6631 So, as i have shown was “Red” used for being Fairskinned. I will move on to the Color Abyad (White).
Al Dhahabi (b.1274 CE) said in his Book Seera A’laam Al Nubalaa: Chapter 2, page 168
“If the Arabs said that someone is white, they mean that he is a wheatish colour with a blackness that can be seen”.
إن العرب إذا قالت: فلان أبيض ، فإنهم يريدون الحنطي اللون بحليةسوداء
^White was LightBrown. This make sense because the Messenger of Allah SWT is described as a color between Black & White (thus Brown) in e.g, Sahih al-Bukhari 5900. This is Authentic Hadith. Authentic Hadith can’t contradict. He can’t be described as “Fair” & “Brown” at the same Time.