One thing I have found useful is a gear sling to store gear off the ground hung under the hammock. Helpful if you are in heavy rain and a “stream” forms under your hammock.
Nice video. I use shock cord loops on the tarp tie out points tied to the regular tie out cords. The loops give it some “give” in strong winds and helps with tension on the tarp in rain (especially if you have a sil nylon tarp that stretches in rain).
I use shock cord for my dyneema tarp. Thinking about getting rid of it though. Most people these days are saying it makes no difference. I’m still undecided.
*Dude! This is the MOST awesome system. Thanks for the pro* tips. I'm just getting started in hammock camping and this was the most useful video for both the gear and the techniques. **
@@Bacon_N_Backpacking Blackbird XLC, WB Superfly, wookie UQ, Enlightened Equipment top quilt, MyersTech straps and the Becket hitch. I watched a lot of Shug videos when I first got interested in hammocks.
I add a piece of bungy cord to each door, the left (head and foot) I clip to the guyline tie out point on the right side of the tarp and right to left for the other... super easy to duck under or step over... the door flaps can cross each other rather than just meeting in the middle... My shoes go in a plastic bag under my knees, I sleep with my day clothes near my body heat and everything is warm and dry in the morning...
I’ve been using shock cord on the doors in the way you mention for about a year now. It’s definitely better overall, but I never had any wind issues with the previous method. I also dry my clothes in my quilt, unless they’re totally soaked.
Nice video Travis. It's always good to see how others setup their system and what gear they use. I find it interesting how you point your doors out rather than in, curious, does that provide you with more room, less wind? Inquiring minds want to know. LOL I have the sil-poly tarp w/doors and switched to the Dyneema tarp w/doors. Man I really love that tarp, but it is expensive. I've got the Darien from Dream Hammock, it's a solid hammock. I use the Hammock Gear top and under quilt. I like the collar you have your top quilt. Mine has one, but it's not a prominent. Oh and great looking buck that walked by while you were filming!! Thanks for sharing!!! -dave
I’ve never put any thought into the doors to be honest. I’ve always pointed them towards the trees. If you look at any pictures on Warbonnet’s website they’re all pointed outwards. I don’t know that it makes a difference tbh. The only thing I intentionally do with my tarp is keep it pretty low to the ground if it’s super windy to try to minimize air coming in and lifting up on the tarp. Again, don’t know that it makes much difference but that’s just my thought process. I don’t use my tarp at all 90% of the time so when I do use it I’m in storm mode so I don’t mind it being a little claustrophobic.
Nice setup👍🏻 I have WB xlc, wooki 0, thunderfly, superfly and complete wintersock. Wintersock is best option in cold, dry winterseason. Its fast to put up in the field if hammock, wooki and sock is connected ready at home. Temperature inside ~1-2 degree celsius more than outside, i’ve tested it. Quilt i don’t have. I just think its too expensive vs sleeping back is more reliable in cold seasons. I prefer top zip sleepingbags, i have Carinthia defence 1 and 4. Using sleeping back is little hassle specially in wintertime.
I’ve never had any issues staying warm down to about 15F with quilts. I just prefer quilts to bags because I can vent if it gets too hot. I’m a very warm sleeper.
Well, it depends. Thin straps/cordage on smaller trees with soft bark can leave an indentation on the bark. Does this harm/kill the tree? In my experience, no. I’ve been using hammocks on my property for 20+ years and my dad used rope rather than straps and those trees are alive and healthy to this day. Some places require 2” straps so you may want to look into that. A lot of people have a lot of opinions on things, but I’d say use your discretion and common sense.
Love the wb setup, I run the rudgerunner with lynx and jarks r better top. Mountain tarp which is a bit smaller than yours with the sock in winter. Its a bit heavier than your setup but worth every gram.
For sure dude, to each their own. I don't tell people where to spend their ounces haha. If you like it, that's all that matters. I've always been curious to try a bridge hammock, but I'm super happy with what I have right now, maybe one day. Thanks for watching!
Do you find that, in winter conditions, you pitch the tarp closer to the ground? I saw the little duck walk you did to get under the tarp - I imagine that'd hurt after a day of backpacking, but it could be worth it if it keeps you warmer. I do tend to setup my tarp in porch mode, using poles (or my bike) to lift an edge up. Much less protection from sideways rain and wind, but much easier to get into and out of.
I honestly pitch my tarp like that most of the time. I mainly do it so it stays low to the ground and prevents splash back on my under quilt. I feel like it might make a SLIGHT difference in temperature, but I'm literally talking a few degrees. You basically get a little microclimate, but nothing that's going to save you if you have inadequate gear lol. If the tarp is pitched at all, it's because there is precipitation or it's below 20F. Other than that, I never use porch mode. I just store the tarp in the skins. That's my personal preference. Thanks for watching!
Like your tarp guy line tie offs- do you find your hammock tree straps are wide enough? (Many places are requiring 1-2” tree straps to avoid trunk damage (real or perceived)
They’re 1” and very soft straps. I’ve never seen a mark on a tree from those straps, or any hammock straps for that matter. On my family property we’ve been hanging hammocks on the same four trees for over 30 years and they’re just fine. I think the super thin cordage type of hands are the only thing that’s going to damage a tree, but I also haven’t seen that happen either so idk. I just generally avoid Hickory’s but that’s about it.
In addition to using the word "cordage" far too much 😅, the guidelines are cinched down far too tight. It puts undue pressure on the tarp to have the guidelines cinched down so tight. It's better, and this is effective, if you keep it a little bit looser so there's some give to the tarp when the wind blows or to put a loop of send elastic cord at each of the d rings and tie off to that
The bug net also is a good defence against wind.
For sure, it does help a little in that regard
Enjoyed the video and learned a few tips. Thanks man
Nice setup! The highlight of the video - at least for me - is the way you're using the chair. Made it worth watching the video just for that tip!
Hey as long as you got something out of it lol, thanks for watching!
He uses the 120 dollar helinox chair for a shoe rest!!! 😂😂 Love it.
Don’t wanna get my feet wet big dog
Exactly what I was thinking. But uses dyneema Ridgeline for weight
One thing I have found useful is a gear sling to store gear off the ground hung under the hammock. Helpful if you are in heavy rain and a “stream” forms under your hammock.
I have a gear shelf inside my hammock.
Nice setup. Informative. Have fun 👋🇸🇪
Always do, thanks for watching!
Nice video. I use shock cord loops on the tarp tie out points tied to the regular tie out cords. The loops give it some “give” in strong winds and helps with tension on the tarp in rain (especially if you have a sil nylon tarp that stretches in rain).
I use shock cord for my dyneema tarp. Thinking about getting rid of it though. Most people these days are saying it makes no difference. I’m still undecided.
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I think it mainly makes a difference if you are in some pretty strong winds. On the other hand I have not heard of any downside to using shock cord.
*Dude! This is the MOST awesome system. Thanks for the pro* tips. I'm just getting started in hammock camping and this was the most useful video for both the gear and the techniques. **
Glad you found it helpful, thanks for watching!
Pretty sleek looking winter setep
I like it haha, thanks for watching!
Well, you covered just about everything. My set-up is very similar and I'm happy with it.
Do you use Warbonnet too or a different company?
@@Bacon_N_Backpacking Blackbird XLC, WB Superfly, wookie UQ, Enlightened Equipment top quilt, MyersTech straps and the Becket hitch. I watched a lot of Shug videos when I first got interested in hammocks.
How much this run you in interested in similar setup@@rkw4565
Thank you! Great informative video
Glad you enjoyed, thanks for watching!
I add a piece of bungy cord to each door, the left (head and foot) I clip to the guyline tie out point on the right side of the tarp and right to left for the other... super easy to duck under or step over... the door flaps can cross each other rather than just meeting in the middle...
My shoes go in a plastic bag under my knees, I sleep with my day clothes near my body heat and everything is warm and dry in the morning...
I’ve been using shock cord on the doors in the way you mention for about a year now. It’s definitely better overall, but I never had any wind issues with the previous method. I also dry my clothes in my quilt, unless they’re totally soaked.
Nice set up dude! This is usually about the time I switch over to my hammock set up for winter. I dig that shelf on the WB
Yeah, it's super convenient. Really like the setup, only change I may make is switching to a dyneema tarp but we'll see.
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Thanks for watching!
Nice video Travis. It's always good to see how others setup their system and what gear they use. I find it interesting how you point your doors out rather than in, curious, does that provide you with more room, less wind? Inquiring minds want to know. LOL I have the sil-poly tarp w/doors and switched to the Dyneema tarp w/doors. Man I really love that tarp, but it is expensive. I've got the Darien from Dream Hammock, it's a solid hammock. I use the Hammock Gear top and under quilt. I like the collar you have your top quilt. Mine has one, but it's not a prominent. Oh and great looking buck that walked by while you were filming!! Thanks for sharing!!! -dave
I’ve never put any thought into the doors to be honest. I’ve always pointed them towards the trees. If you look at any pictures on Warbonnet’s website they’re all pointed outwards. I don’t know that it makes a difference tbh. The only thing I intentionally do with my tarp is keep it pretty low to the ground if it’s super windy to try to minimize air coming in and lifting up on the tarp. Again, don’t know that it makes much difference but that’s just my thought process. I don’t use my tarp at all 90% of the time so when I do use it I’m in storm mode so I don’t mind it being a little claustrophobic.
Ok. Nice info. 🔥✌💪
Thanks for watching!
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If it’s set up correctly there’s no swinging but I get what you mean. Rule #1 is not to set up a hammock any higher than you’re willing to fall.
Nice setup👍🏻 I have WB xlc, wooki 0, thunderfly, superfly and complete wintersock. Wintersock is best option in cold, dry winterseason. Its fast to put up in the field if hammock, wooki and sock is connected ready at home. Temperature inside ~1-2 degree celsius more than outside, i’ve tested it. Quilt i don’t have. I just think its too expensive vs sleeping back is more reliable in cold seasons. I prefer top zip sleepingbags, i have Carinthia defence 1 and 4. Using sleeping back is little hassle specially in wintertime.
I’ve never had any issues staying warm down to about 15F with quilts. I just prefer quilts to bags because I can vent if it gets too hot. I’m a very warm sleeper.
Are those straps acceptable for use on living trees? Seems I heard you need to use wide straps
Well, it depends. Thin straps/cordage on smaller trees with soft bark can leave an indentation on the bark. Does this harm/kill the tree? In my experience, no. I’ve been using hammocks on my property for 20+ years and my dad used rope rather than straps and those trees are alive and healthy to this day. Some places require 2” straps so you may want to look into that. A lot of people have a lot of opinions on things, but I’d say use your discretion and common sense.
Love the wb setup, I run the rudgerunner with lynx and jarks r better top. Mountain tarp which is a bit smaller than yours with the sock in winter. Its a bit heavier than your setup but worth every gram.
For sure dude, to each their own. I don't tell people where to spend their ounces haha. If you like it, that's all that matters. I've always been curious to try a bridge hammock, but I'm super happy with what I have right now, maybe one day. Thanks for watching!
The side pullouts on the tarp are needed more if you have a bridge hammock. Another reason to always bring a chair.
Yeah, I've never needed them but supposedly they help in high winds. No idea because I've never tried lol, thanks for watching!
What jacket is that
Woobie hoodie from Zero Foxtrot
Can you link those stakes
Can’t link in YT comments. They’re the MSR groundhogs. A lot of people sell them on Amazon, retailers such as REI stock them as well.
Do you find that, in winter conditions, you pitch the tarp closer to the ground? I saw the little duck walk you did to get under the tarp - I imagine that'd hurt after a day of backpacking, but it could be worth it if it keeps you warmer. I do tend to setup my tarp in porch mode, using poles (or my bike) to lift an edge up. Much less protection from sideways rain and wind, but much easier to get into and out of.
I honestly pitch my tarp like that most of the time. I mainly do it so it stays low to the ground and prevents splash back on my under quilt. I feel like it might make a SLIGHT difference in temperature, but I'm literally talking a few degrees. You basically get a little microclimate, but nothing that's going to save you if you have inadequate gear lol. If the tarp is pitched at all, it's because there is precipitation or it's below 20F. Other than that, I never use porch mode. I just store the tarp in the skins. That's my personal preference. Thanks for watching!
Like your tarp guy line tie offs- do you find your hammock tree straps are wide enough? (Many places are requiring 1-2” tree straps to avoid trunk damage (real or perceived)
They’re 1” and very soft straps. I’ve never seen a mark on a tree from those straps, or any hammock straps for that matter. On my family property we’ve been hanging hammocks on the same four trees for over 30 years and they’re just fine. I think the super thin cordage type of hands are the only thing that’s going to damage a tree, but I also haven’t seen that happen either so idk. I just generally avoid Hickory’s but that’s about it.
lol the random buck
Felt appropriate to throw that in lol…he was on the prowl
In addition to using the word "cordage" far too much 😅, the guidelines are cinched down far too tight. It puts undue pressure on the tarp to have the guidelines cinched down so tight. It's better, and this is effective, if you keep it a little bit looser so there's some give to the tarp when the wind blows or to put a loop of send elastic cord at each of the d rings and tie off to that
* guylines
Way to complicated.
Takes less than ten minutes to set up, but okay lol
Good to listen to
Thanks
your gear is so punny
I’m easily entertained what can I say?