What i don't like about voltorb flip is there are situations where it is literally 50/50 whether you'll get a voltorb or not. Shouldn't have to solely rely on luck in a supposed logic game.
It's not even meant to be a casino though. That's why they got rid of the slot machines, so there's no gambling. All i'm saying is for a supposed logic game, you should never have to rely on chance.
tbh i like it better than way. The chance aspect is just gives it more of a risk factor. If it's just purely a logic game then there would just be some kind of solver online to solve everything, essentially taking the fun out of the game.
*Pokemon has a game corner* Ratings companies: Oh no, you have to remove that! Can't have our children gambling! Use this family-friendly Voltorb Flip game instead. *A ton of AAA games in recent years contain lootboxes* Ratings companies: Sure, go ahead and release them. Spending hundreds of dollars on boxes that may or may not have the items you want is totally not gambling.
super helpful, but it does still take a lot of reasoning. I'm surprised they put a minigame so intellectually challenging in a pokemon game tbh. I've had this game since it first came out, and now I'm 17 and just beat level one for the first time (with this method!).
Everytime I replay hgss I watch this GENIUS video, btw an easy way to find out if a space is a dead space is just knowing that the sum of voltorbs and points is 5
I have a sort of love-hate relationship with Voltorb Flip. I keep thinking that I hate it but I also keep going back to it. I just spent a few hours playing it so I could get 10000 coins for the Ice Beam TM.
If you're using an emulator, which you probably are, just Save State after every coin flip, if you get a Voltorb, you're obviously going to load the last Save State, untill you clear the level, and then the entire game until you have the max of 50,000 points.
Hello sir! I chanced upon your video here, and was very pleased to see that we both came across the same method of playing Voltorb Flip! One thing I'd like to mention, however, is that after reducing the board to its givens (by flipping voltorbless rows and marking valueless spaces [dead spaces]), you can mark other spaces that aren't _necessarily_ worthless. For example, whenever I see a 4/2 row, I know that there are two voltorbs, one two and two ones. Using that gets rid of most luck. :)
I see your point!! I just like the fact that the Dratini at the end has ExtremeSpeed which I believe can't be learned naturally so I personally think it's worthwhile.(correct me if I'm wrong though!)
Use the 3-2 trick. Whenever you see a row, where there are either 3 mines and 2 points. or 2 points and 3 mines, there is no possible way that row can have a multiplier in it above 1, and it's pointless to turn over any of those tiles, cause you can't any points out of them. Flag them all. This also applies to 4-1 ratio. Either 4 mines and 1 point or 1 mine and 4 points. If you look for the ratio that gives u 5, you can't get points. That's a nice secret for you.
The great thing is, if you get to a certain level, (say level 3) and you rack up a lot of coins, but then decide to quit, it will let you start on level 3 again. Thank you for this educational video! While I'm still a loooooooooong way from getting to level 6 or 7, or getting that Porygon, I'm bringing in more than I used to. At long last, I can at least get past level 1. :)
Marking both a 1 and a voltorb lets you know that it can be either of those 2, if you just mark them voltorbs then you wont be able to differentiate between them when you actually do find tiles that you know are voltorbs, and mark them as such.
Use this formula to check if the line is dead space or not, trust me it is easy; If remaining un-turned tiles - voltorbs = total points in line - revealed total points in line then the line is 100% dead space; If there is a 2 in a 5 point 1 voltorb line, mark everything else dead space; If there is a 3 in a 6 point 1 voltorb line, mark everything else dead space; All lines that have sum of points + voltorb as 5 are all dead space Hope this helps ^-^
Hey, nice method :) The easiest way to find a "dead space" row or column is to see if the voltorbs and points add up to 5. (Loving the dead space dub btw!)
What I do is tread cautiously in rows or columns that could have Voltorb. Then, when I find 1 square left, and all the rest were points, I mark it so I don't touch it again.
Awesome tutorial. It looks like I was doing the Dead Space strategy all along, just wondering who else was doing it. It works wonders. The guy that called you a dumbass is a complete moron. Its not a matter of common sense, because if it was common people wouldn't need help on it. This mini-game tore me apart until I figured it out.
Chris Mansley so the voltorb and points on the side.. if those both add to 5.. that's a dead line. (I.e.. 3 voltorb.. 2 point.. = 5) fill that line like he does in the video. Once that's done. don't touch the spots you filled. Next.. when he guesses.. look for high numbers side and bottom.. if u have an 8 on the side and 7 on the bottom.. that's a very good chance of not being a voltorb. Next up. by this point you should either have high numbers on the board and most of it filled out.. say you have a line thats 7 points 2 voltorbs.. and you have a 3 and a 3 showing on that line already. You can then fill out the rest like he does.. because 3+3+1+bomb+bomb.. will fill that line.. follow me? hard to explain with showing it
Thank you for making this video! So helpful! Literally, I went from barely being able to get to level 3 to regularly getting to 5 and up to 8. Plus, I have 8000 coins now.
For example, 4/1. That means out of the FIVE squares present there is ONE voltorb, the rest will be 1's. It is an intricate mathematical equation=there are 5 squares, consider how many bombs are present and subtract that from the number of squaresused to total the main number in each row and column.In this case there is only one bomb so... we deduct one square and we're left with four squares left that will equal FOUR (4/1)must equal FOUR in total. We know that there's at most one voltorb.
I have the 1-1 theory, since 1 is an 1/5 chance of having a voltorb, I take the chances and clear the board pretty quick. it has a high success rate early but later it seems to be more inaccurate
Your whole complicated "dead space method" is the idea I've been using to win, but mines a lot simplier. The rows & colums that have a voltorb count and point count that adds up to five, you dont need to flip. (lot simplier that way....)
I figured this out on my first try, I was hoping to find some kind of exploitable glitch. Still, thank you for the effort. I've taken it a step further and marked the spaces that I know do not contain threes. It hurts my brain to keep all of the information at once, but it's possible to analyze where stuff is by running mental simulations about how the voltorbs and multipliers must be allocated if we assume certain places are dangerous. It'd be more fun if I wasn't used to just buying the prizes
Another thing with dead spacing: If (Total points in row+total voltorbs) - points already in row = amount of unflipped spaces in row --> dead space whole row For example: Total points=4 Total voltorbs=2 Points already in row=1 tile of 2 points 4+2-2=4 1 tile is already flipped so 4 unflipped tiles 4=4 Deadspace
The first thing we should do is take care of all the rows and columns that are 1's or voltorbs in each square.(you'll have to make good use of the open memo to jot down each square with 1's,2's,3's,or voltorbs)
this method did help me out at first but it wasn't the final trick to break the puzzle. dead space does help but using row and column totals (along with currently flipped spacess and values known) its easier to eliminate the voltorbs and 1 point value spaces at the same time. luck is still needed to pick the final open squares to find the 2 or 3s. the dead space theory did help me out to finally to eliminate the 1s along along with voltorbs
The rest will take mathematical observation. Basically you'll have to look in each row and column to see if the squares that are intertwined make a valid equation for the corresponding column/row
What I like to do is add up all the numbers in a row or column, subtract that number from the total value that is supposed to be in that particular row/column and then add the number of voltorbs in the column. Then compare that number to the number of tiles you have. If they are equal to each other, then all you have left in those tiles is dead space. Just an easy way to remember his dead space method. :)
The object of the game is to find all the hidden 2's and 3's, find those and you automatically win. There are numbers at the end of each row and column with the number of bombs or voltorbs in that specific row/column.
I spend like 2 hours playing this yesterday for the first time and was pleasantly surprised at how fun this is. I also came up with that "dead space" method as a way to clear rows that had no relevance. However, unless there's something I'm not seeing, a lot of the time you're just left with a couple of spaces where you have to guess which ones are multipliers (50/50 chance to survive). I hate this chance element. :(
I do this too but I just hate how much time and thinking is involved with each game just for a Voltorb to explode in your face. I’d rather just mindlessly spin slots.
It's likely I'm in the minority when I say despite the luck factor involved in Voltorb Flip I still prefer it over the slot machines. I find more enjoyment in this than mashing for coins.
I love voltorb flip too, but then again I love me strategy games where luck can utterly screw over every bit of effort you put into planning (such as risk)
In the end (in the higher levels) you still need to be lucky, because if you reduced the game to 4 tiles, two solutions could be possible. Get lucky to pick the right tile, then you are done.
Ultimately it's very unlikely that you'll be completely avoiding any luck using this in voltorb flip (except for maybe the first 2 levels) but 1 in 4 (although better considered a 1 in 2 since one result is dependent on another) is far better odds than 1 in 10 (I get it's not really likely you'll have a 1 in 10 chance ever in voltorb flip but you get the point)
i feel like im having a math lesson
Yeah dude i feel too
apart from that this is really useful.
What i don't like about voltorb flip is there are situations where it is literally 50/50 whether you'll get a voltorb or not. Shouldn't have to solely rely on luck in a supposed logic game.
thats why it is inside a casino.
It's not even meant to be a casino though. That's why they got rid of the slot machines, so there's no gambling. All i'm saying is for a supposed logic game, you should never have to rely on chance.
tbh i like it better than way. The chance aspect is just gives it more of a risk factor. If it's just purely a logic game then there would just be some kind of solver online to solve everything, essentially taking the fun out of the game.
There is a solver onine and there is no chance involved if you calculate everything, correctly.
That's wrong, this game has chance and no flip solver is 100% accurate try it yourself
“Is this what you expected?”
*ends my game*
In later levels it's not always a voltorb
Sometimes it's not always a Voltorb, but I still hate seeing it. Getting my hopes up just for a bomb to explode in my face... 😤
THe higher the level, the harder it becomes to use the "Deadspace theory".
true, as sometimes the dead space method cant be used at all
AHHH this is the exact same method that I use
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*Pokemon has a game corner*
Ratings companies: Oh no, you have to remove that! Can't have our children gambling! Use this family-friendly Voltorb Flip game instead.
*A ton of AAA games in recent years contain lootboxes*
Ratings companies: Sure, go ahead and release them. Spending hundreds of dollars on boxes that may or may not have the items you want is totally not gambling.
Replace every lootbox with voltorb flip.
@@theonlyshinyumbreon yes.
super helpful, but it does still take a lot of reasoning. I'm surprised they put a minigame so intellectually challenging in a pokemon game tbh. I've had this game since it first came out, and now I'm 17 and just beat level one for the first time (with this method!).
Dude you just said: not to brag
Its more chance then reasoning
So if the numbers of points and voltorbs add up to five, the row is a dead row.
got that.
Thank you so much for this I made it all the way up to level 7! Time to go buy that dratini I always wanted
an easier way to tell which rows are "dead space" is if they add up to 5.
Why 5 though?
Jethco Because there are 5 available spaces in each row and column.. Answered my own question just a couple minutes after I asked. lol whoops.
@@Jethco i know this is 5 yrs old but man did u forget to change accounts or something? xD
He literally said he answered his own question
I literally figured this out 2 days ago and now I'm seeing this video. THIS COULD HAVE SAVED ME FROM SEVERAL YEARS OF GUESSING!!! (Completely)
Everytime I replay hgss I watch this GENIUS video, btw an easy way to find out if a space is a dead space is just knowing that the sum of voltorbs and points is 5
I have a sort of love-hate relationship with Voltorb Flip. I keep thinking that I hate it but I also keep going back to it. I just spent a few hours playing it so I could get 10000 coins for the Ice Beam TM.
Trying to get Ice Beam myself. Almost to 2000 coins.
This game reminds me of minesweeper...
it basically is lol
Actually it isn't minesweeper.
I can actually do good at minesweeper but this shit stumps me every time !! Haha
its very similar oof
I only imagine disarming actually being more fun and less painful
7 years later, this still helps people.
You should've titled this "How to play Voltorb Flip".
or "how to win voltorb flip more often"
Exactly. But I guess some people or kids don’t use the basic math or patterns in video games, and they need this video lol
Daniel Pardo stfu
Daniel Pardo some of us aren’t English speakers or aren’t good at math. Like I understood almost nothing about this videk
Using this "dead space" method I literally just covered the entire field with the exception of 3 spaces... :P
i have watched this vid like 6 times and im still confused:c
10 years later and I still am suffering less because of this. Thanks man c:
If you're using an emulator, which you probably are, just Save State after every coin flip, if you get a Voltorb, you're obviously going to load the last Save State, untill you clear the level, and then the entire game until you have the max of 50,000 points.
+MASTERNED nice trick thanks m8!
+MASTERNED I will totally do that to get another eevee xD (since I don't like depending on breeding an eevee and a ditto.)
+MASTERNED ur stupid
34ogx you're smart you're loyal I appreciate you
your a noob, cant win the game fairly
Thank you su much this is very helpful I didn't lose the first 4 lvs and I got about 228 coins!
Hello sir! I chanced upon your video here, and was very pleased to see that we both came across the same method of playing Voltorb Flip! One thing I'd like to mention, however, is that after reducing the board to its givens (by flipping voltorbless rows and marking valueless spaces [dead spaces]), you can mark other spaces that aren't _necessarily_ worthless. For example, whenever I see a 4/2 row, I know that there are two voltorbs, one two and two ones. Using that gets rid of most luck. :)
You sir, Are a genius, reminds me of mine sweeper
I see your point!! I just like the fact that the Dratini at the end has ExtremeSpeed which I believe can't be learned naturally so I personally think it's worthwhile.(correct me if I'm wrong though!)
I just wanted to thank you. Yesterday I lost a hard earned 800 and I already nearly have it back thanks to your method.
Fucking hate Voltorb Flip...
TheDracioN still better than any game corner.
pokehunterhd worse*
slot machine was best thing
SMG39 The Buttered Popcorn no it wasn't
Use the 3-2 trick. Whenever you see a row, where there are either 3 mines and 2 points. or 2 points and 3 mines, there is no possible way that row can have a multiplier in it above 1, and it's pointless to turn over any of those tiles, cause you can't any points out of them. Flag them all. This also applies to 4-1 ratio. Either 4 mines and 1 point or 1 mine and 4 points. If you look for the ratio that gives u 5, you can't get points. That's a nice secret for you.
You just made this game so much easier for me. Thanks so much for this video!
The great thing is, if you get to a certain level, (say level 3) and you rack up a lot of coins, but then decide to quit, it will let you start on level 3 again. Thank you for this educational video! While I'm still a loooooooooong way from getting to level 6 or 7, or getting that Porygon, I'm bringing in more than I used to. At long last, I can at least get past level 1. :)
You've just taught me how to play this... I thank you. A million. times. :D
I don't know why, but I absolutely love Voltorb Flip!
This was the easiest video to understand on this topic.
I wonder where this legend is now
This was really helpful, I didn't quite understand the game but now I do. Thank you!
Marking both a 1 and a voltorb lets you know that it can be either of those 2, if you just mark them voltorbs then you wont be able to differentiate between them when you actually do find tiles that you know are voltorbs, and mark them as such.
"oh moms callin again"
this was so helpful thank you! i was stuck at level 3 and this showed me how to get to level 6
Use this formula to check if the line is dead space or not, trust me it is easy;
If remaining un-turned tiles - voltorbs = total points in line - revealed total points in line then the line is 100% dead space;
If there is a 2 in a 5 point 1 voltorb line, mark everything else dead space;
If there is a 3 in a 6 point 1 voltorb line, mark everything else dead space;
All lines that have sum of points + voltorb as 5 are all dead space
Hope this helps ^-^
Hey, nice method :) The easiest way to find a "dead space" row or column is to see if the voltorbs and points add up to 5. (Loving the dead space dub btw!)
Sweet, playing this game way later and this is really helpful.
Thank you so much for actually explaining this! I’ve hated this game for ever.
Honestly didn't even see the bottom roll until I watched this video
Thanks bro! This helped me a lot! :D
What I do is tread cautiously in rows or columns that could have Voltorb. Then, when I find 1 square left, and all the rest were points, I mark it so I don't touch it again.
this worked!!! i used 2 frustrate now i love the [dead space] method.
This helped a lot thanks bro keep up the good work
Awesome tutorial. It looks like I was doing the Dead Space strategy all along, just wondering who else was doing it. It works wonders. The guy that called you a dumbass is a complete moron. Its not a matter of common sense, because if it was common people wouldn't need help on it. This mini-game tore me apart until I figured it out.
holy crap balls thank u man! lol i wont lie took forever to figure out who you did that
best guide ive found so far
Hey, this method works. Granted, some parts still rely on chance but this still helps.
Thank you
Thank you, got to level 8 with this method!
It took me awhile to figure out what you were saying. But once you catch on.. its so easy! Gets way harder after lvl 6.. almost no dead spaces haha
PLEASE EXPLAIN IT BETTER TO ME!
Chris Mansley so the voltorb and points on the side.. if those both add to 5.. that's a dead line. (I.e.. 3 voltorb.. 2 point.. = 5) fill that line like he does in the video. Once that's done. don't touch the spots you filled.
Next.. when he guesses.. look for high numbers side and bottom.. if u have an 8 on the side and 7 on the bottom.. that's a very good chance of not being a voltorb.
Next up. by this point you should either have high numbers on the board and most of it filled out.. say you have a line thats 7 points 2 voltorbs.. and you have a 3 and a 3 showing on that line already. You can then fill out the rest like he does..
because 3+3+1+bomb+bomb.. will fill that line.. follow me?
hard to explain with showing it
Thank you for making this video! So helpful! Literally, I went from barely being able to get to level 3 to regularly getting to 5 and up to 8. Plus, I have 8000 coins now.
For example, 4/1.
That means out of the FIVE squares present there is ONE voltorb, the rest will be 1's. It is an intricate mathematical equation=there are 5 squares, consider how many bombs are present and subtract that from the number of squaresused to total the main number in each row and column.In this case there is only one bomb so... we deduct one square and we're left with four squares left that will equal FOUR (4/1)must equal FOUR in total. We know that there's at most one voltorb.
I have the 1-1 theory, since 1 is an 1/5 chance of having a voltorb, I take the chances and clear the board pretty quick. it has a high success rate early but later it seems to be more inaccurate
Thanks for the help so I don't end up ripping my ds in half
This is basically how I got my Dratini before even facing Britney.
I love you man! never thought i couldve gotten this far!! =D
THANK YOUUUUUU!!!!! Dratini, here i come!!!
Thanks brah, your strategy is pretty useful, but it pretty much it still relies on luck
Your whole complicated "dead space method" is the idea I've been using to win, but mines a lot simplier. The rows & colums that have a voltorb count and point count that adds up to five, you dont need to flip. (lot simplier that way....)
THANK YOU SO MUCH. FINALLY MADE IT PASSED LEVEL 1 :D
I figured this out on my first try, I was hoping to find some kind of exploitable glitch. Still, thank you for the effort. I've taken it a step further and marked the spaces that I know do not contain threes. It hurts my brain to keep all of the information at once, but it's possible to analyze where stuff is by running mental simulations about how the voltorbs and multipliers must be allocated if we assume certain places are dangerous. It'd be more fun if I wasn't used to just buying the prizes
Another thing with dead spacing:
If (Total points in row+total voltorbs) - points already in row = amount of unflipped spaces in row --> dead space whole row
For example:
Total points=4
Total voltorbs=2
Points already in row=1 tile of 2 points
4+2-2=4
1 tile is already flipped so 4 unflipped tiles
4=4
Deadspace
I shall use this method the next time I play Voltorb Flip
I would have needed this like 8 years ago haha
The first thing we should do is take care of all the rows and columns that are 1's or voltorbs in each square.(you'll have to make good use of the open memo to jot down each square with 1's,2's,3's,or voltorbs)
this method did help me out at first but it wasn't the final trick to break the puzzle. dead space does help but using row and column totals (along with currently flipped spacess and values known) its easier to eliminate the voltorbs and 1 point value spaces at the same time. luck is still needed to pick the final open squares to find the 2 or 3s.
the dead space theory did help me out to finally to eliminate the 1s along along with voltorbs
Damn it's already been 8 years and close to 9 years
basically- if the voltorbs and points coint on the tile that hints adds up to 5, then select none of those tiles
You need to make more guides xD this was really good help
7 Years Ago :sob:
some games just live forever
Holy shit I just cleared my first board ever, thx
I've been playing this for hours trying to get this dratini lol it will make it that much sweeter tho
This helped out a lot thank you👍
The rest will take mathematical observation.
Basically you'll have to look in each row and column to see if the squares that are intertwined make a valid equation for the corresponding column/row
This helped me I'm going for porygon
What I like to do is add up all the numbers in a row or column, subtract that number from the total value that is supposed to be in that particular row/column and then add the number of voltorbs in the column. Then compare that number to the number of tiles you have. If they are equal to each other, then all you have left in those tiles is dead space. Just an easy way to remember his dead space method. :)
YAAAAA THANKS YOU. I am playing Pokemon Heartgold and I really want a Dratini.
go to black thorn city and go into dragons den u wil find a drangonair or dratini good luck :)
Easier to cheat...
I googled voltorb flip and there is an easy solution to it all :P
You can get a dratini for free in dragons den with a special move (extreme speed)
O my GOODNESS!!! This was very helpful. Thanks for posting this video.
I've been playing this game since release and am still not smart enough to understand this
I got up level 10 thanks to this video, how amazing.
Very useful. Thanks Steven!
Is this what you're expecting? Yes it is.
This was something about Pokemon I will never forgive.
This works really well, thanks a lot
:D you even used the same "dead space marker" as i did. Also in the later levels it can help alot to mark of areas where voltorbs definetly are.
The object of the game is to find all the hidden 2's and 3's, find those and you automatically win. There are numbers at the end of each row and column with the number of bombs or voltorbs in that specific row/column.
10 years later. I still suck at it :CoolCat:
I spend like 2 hours playing this yesterday for the first time and was pleasantly surprised at how fun this is. I also came up with that "dead space" method as a way to clear rows that had no relevance. However, unless there's something I'm not seeing, a lot of the time you're just left with a couple of spaces where you have to guess which ones are multipliers (50/50 chance to survive). I hate this chance element. :(
I play sudoku all the time and this game reminds me nothing of it. that you so much for this :D
Moral of this Story: always have an emulator that can load saves
And if you’re playing nuzlockes, TOUGH LUCK.
I do this too but I just hate how much time and thinking is involved with each game just for a Voltorb to explode in your face. I’d rather just mindlessly spin slots.
Wow this is a brilliant method. Thank you so much.
It's likely I'm in the minority when I say despite the luck factor involved in Voltorb Flip I still prefer it over the slot machines. I find more enjoyment in this than mashing for coins.
SuperJumpz I agree. I can play this for hours.
I love voltorb flip too, but then again I love me strategy games where luck can utterly screw over every bit of effort you put into planning (such as risk)
In the end (in the higher levels) you still need to be lucky, because if you reduced the game to 4 tiles, two solutions could be possible. Get lucky to pick the right tile, then you are done.
Ultimately it's very unlikely that you'll be completely avoiding any luck using this in voltorb flip (except for maybe the first 2 levels) but 1 in 4 (although better considered a 1 in 2 since one result is dependent on another) is far better odds than 1 in 10 (I get it's not really likely you'll have a 1 in 10 chance ever in voltorb flip but you get the point)
Jesus did they HAVE to make it this hard?
thanks helped me a lot and finaly i got a dratini thanks
i always use dead space and highest round is 6 because of u thanks a gane liked to
Tip: If the sum of the voltorbs and coins is 5, it's dead space.
Seems like just plain common sense to me , i too do the same.
This dude is crazy smart