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    0:00 - Intro
    0:10 - California’s new diesel emissions laws
    1:06 - UP sues STB
    1:33 - Massive FTA grant
    2:20 - NS confirms heritage unit refurbishment
    2:50 - Coaster receives more SC-44s
    3:07 - Amtrak phase IV heritage returns
    3:37 - Pacific Harbor Line receives Joule locomotive
    4:00 - CSX’s first heritage unit
    4:37 - Metro North heritage units
    4:57 - Northern Lights Express receives funding
    5:23 - Acela II delayed into 2024
    5:51 - NW 611 leaves Strasburg
    6:22 - Amtrak Harry Potter wraps removed early
    6:54 - SD70MACH done with DOT testing
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  • @dalekling7303
    @dalekling7303 Год назад +34

    100 million dollars for a Michigan High speed rail package

    • @lordrindfleisch1584
      @lordrindfleisch1584 Год назад +11

      Sounds like the cost of about 1 km of high speed rail, maybe 2 km

  • @SunRailMV
    @SunRailMV Год назад +8

    What’s missing? SunRail Phase II North Groundbreaking!

  • @joemayo8254
    @joemayo8254 Год назад +18

    The Metro-North heritage unit takes me back to the days when FL9s reigned supreme on Metro-North. How I miss them. 😢

  • @guy_called_Odin
    @guy_called_Odin Год назад +13

    Correction on the 611 story:
    611 is owned by the VIRGINIA Museum of Transportation in Roanoke, Virginia, NOT the North Carolina Transportation Museum (where she was restored under contract from both the Fire Up 611 non-profit and Norfolk Southern for the 21st Century steam program). She has returned to Roanoke for static display pending all but officially confirmed further excursions (which the rumor mill has already churned up a bunch of possibilities but none have been confirmed as of 6/6/23).

  • @sannh
    @sannh Год назад +3

    In Florida they have gotten started on a SunRail station in DeLand, opening summer 2024.

  • @nolantherailfan5048
    @nolantherailfan5048 Год назад +38

    It's frustrating how constantly the avelia is being delayed

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад +3

      Certainly not unique

    • @jetfan925
      @jetfan925 Год назад +3

      Thanks Connecticut for slowing HSR down.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад +3

      @@jetfan925 Why is Connecticut specifically to blame? Isn't the rest of the corridor in a similar state of repair?

    • @ScottRothsroth0616
      @ScottRothsroth0616 Год назад +2

      Imagine making the payment of something you can’t you use for revenue service; better to discover in testing rather then revenue service.

    • @stephenlaarkamp7344
      @stephenlaarkamp7344 Год назад +3

      @@andrewreynolds4949 Specifically, Connecticut NIMBYs. They have consistently blocked most attempts to speed up rail service on the parts of the line in their state (which are among the slowest on the whole of the corridor, similar in a way to the NIMBYs that tried to block California HSR. Granted, the way to actually speed up the line is by building a whole new right of way that gets rid of a lot of the winding sections of the route on the coast, so that's the main sticking point. It's never easy to overcome that, but at some point, that bullet has to be bitten and a hand is going to be forced on the matter. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

  • @Pensyfan19
    @Pensyfan19 Год назад +13

    Great episode as always. Glad to see more heritage units being announced, as well as more funding for new railcars and routes. I believe the reason as to why 194 was repainted into Phase V and 164 was chosen for Phase IV is likely due to Beech Groove not having the Phase IV paint at the time, and they had to get the engine back out pronto, so thankfully Amtrak will continue to uphold their heritage unit program like NS.

  • @railfanhunterjacob6353
    @railfanhunterjacob6353 Год назад +7

    I recently heard that Amtrak's Sunset Limited is returning to Phoenix, Arizona for the first time since 1996, Amtrak is also improving signals on the Southwest Chief route, Amtrak's Crescent is expanding to the I-20 corridor from Mississippi to Texas, Amtrak's Northeast Regional is adding two trains from Springfield to New York, Amtrak's Empire Builder is facing rail enhancements in Montana, A new Amtrak station is being put into place in Arlington, Virginia and beginning on July 10th, Amtrak's Piedmont service will increase it's trains from 8 to 10 in North Carolina

  • @sargentrowell81
    @sargentrowell81 Год назад +12

    I've speculated that Amtrak mistakenly gave 184 the Phase V paint scheme when it was also around the shops at the same time as 164. They both have similar numbers and if someone just glanced at it quickly or wasn't wearing their glasses or something along those lines the 8 and the 6 could've been misidentified. So once 184 had already been repainted they said "screw it" and just sent it out with the intent of just giving 164 the livery.
    Also, it's cool that CSX is finally doing Heritage Units. I'd say they're long over due and I'm looking forward to possibly seeing an L&N unit.

    • @southmassrailfan
      @southmassrailfan Год назад +2

      ngl that’s actually a good explanation

    • @danielchou5895
      @danielchou5895 Год назад +3

      That's not the reason lol. When 184 was being repaired, they did not have the paint on hand. When they did have paint, 164 was first in line at the paint booth.

    • @sargentrowell81
      @sargentrowell81 Год назад +1

      ​@@danielchou5895 Similar enough.

  • @harrisonofcolorado8886
    @harrisonofcolorado8886 Год назад +24

    I bet that Amtrak isn't going to go with Alstom when they order their new Long Distance fleet at this point.

    • @rowanjones5401
      @rowanjones5401 Год назад +26

      Probably Siemens. They are rolling in cash at this point and standardization of equipment would help Amtrak

    • @joemayo8254
      @joemayo8254 Год назад +15

      Given the issues they had with the first-generation Aclea when it entered service, Amtrak should've known better than to order from Alstom.

    • @StefanWithTrains3222
      @StefanWithTrains3222 Год назад +6

      ​@@joemayo8254they needed to because Alstom has the Tiltronix system. No other company builds tilting trains.

    • @joeykidd8916
      @joeykidd8916 Год назад +1

      @@StefanWithTrains3222 nippon sharyo does. the N700S shinkansen tilts, just not to the degree that the pendolinos do. talgo also builds tilting trains, and high platform ones for egypt

    • @StefanWithTrains3222
      @StefanWithTrains3222 Год назад +2

      @@joeykidd8916 But those trains don't have an active tilting system. Those are natural tilting systems that don't allow greater speeds on corridors. The N700s for example can only tilt up to 1* but Tiltronix trains 8*. Also Talgo doesn't include natural tilt on HST's.

  • @SolidCold
    @SolidCold Год назад +16

    UP: The CPKC merger is giving CP and KCS an unfair advantage!
    Meanwhile UP: *Has a large monopoly in the west*

  • @GP30_Foamer
    @GP30_Foamer Год назад +2

    I got to go out to San Diego to see Coaster’s F59’s one last time before they’re being replaced, I’m gonna miss ‘em.

  • @TranscontinentalRailfan
    @TranscontinentalRailfan Год назад +1

    N&W 611 actually returned to the Virginia Museum of Transportation in Roanoke, VA. The VMT and 611 crew will make a formal announcement on future 611 operations at a later date getting closer by the day.
    Also in rail preservation:
    -Reading 2100 received its booster engine that it used in the 1980s by a generous donor
    -Great Smoky Mountains Railroad in NC officially started their restoration of former Southern Railway 2-8-0 no. 722
    -The Reading & Northern railroad officially started excursion trains out of Pittston, Pa which will take passengers to Jim Thorpe.

  • @coleallen3895
    @coleallen3895 Год назад +8

    Metra needs at least $2 billion so badly to replace all their F40s that are nearly 50 years old as well as to supplement their current Alstom Coradia Multilevel order. They have been underfunded for so many years

    • @maas1208
      @maas1208 Год назад +2

      What about turning the F40PHs into GF6Cs

  • @letsplaypetrus4802
    @letsplaypetrus4802 Год назад +3

    I always find it telling for the lack of railways (and their news) that new paints are newsworthy

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад +3

      Mostly it’s just railfans obsessing over it, if you look on rail industry news sites there’s loads of stuff. Most of it is rather boring to the general public, but it is there

  • @southmassrailfan
    @southmassrailfan Год назад +2

    I’m glad Im not the only person who didn’t get to see the Harry Potter wrap(s)

  • @sannh
    @sannh Год назад +3

    Tri-Rail is working on a Miami station (I think in downtown) set to open late fall 2023.

  • @loganwing3774
    @loganwing3774 Год назад +2

    I live in erie pa about 4 blocks from GE or wabtech and saw those new sd40-2 gevo rebuilds testing on the test track. I’ve also seeing a lot of CSX and NS dash-9 rebuilds as well, very nice

  • @SteveInNEPA1
    @SteveInNEPA1 Год назад +3

    Nice report. You sound like you may have been battling a cold so, if so, feel better. Your work us always fantastic.

  • @trainfan4014
    @trainfan4014 Год назад +6

    Love it I like this series thanks for keeping this rolling

  • @treasurevalleytrackside9527
    @treasurevalleytrackside9527 Год назад +2

    Great video, but one thing you missed was that UP, CN, and Ferromex teamed up to make a cross Canada, USA, and Mexico intermodal network in response to the CPKC merger. I'm pretty sure we saw that one coming, and who knows, maybe these railways will try to merge in the future

  • @halfproductionyt
    @halfproductionyt Год назад +1

    Been a long time since I saw these videos, great work on them

  • @jackkilleen47
    @jackkilleen47 Год назад +1

    That’s awesome to see Metrolink upgrade! As a Saint Louis native, this is amazing!

  • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
    @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 Год назад +3

    Overhead wire electrics>hydrogen>battery locomotives, when it comes to mainline service anyway. I’m just hoping PRLX-EMD start getting into hydrogen locomotives like GE is and prevent future monopolies. I’m also hoping those new government rules can eventually entice railroads to electrify, so that EMD and GE can start making domestic electric locomotives again, though of course it is seeming out of the question for now

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад +4

      I’m fairly sure hydrogen will eventually go the way of the gas turbine locomotive

    • @TohaBgood2
      @TohaBgood2 Год назад +2

      This! "electrics>hydrogen>battery". Batteries simply don't work unless it's for shunting duty. Hydrogen at least works, but is actually more environmentally damaging, because they make the hydrogen from fossil fuels. Just burning the fossil fuels in a modern-ish diesel engine is in fact less environmentally damaging.
      Catenary electricity is the only thing that truly makes sense. It's also cheaper in the long run. But you have to be willing to eat a very large upfront investment cost. Most of the modern "rail" execs being recycled Wall St guys, the freight industry is not willing to invest any money for the long term. They're just "mining" the infrastructure that they inherited from the pre-grand-bankruptcy railroads. Once that resource is fully mined they'll just move on to other industries.

  • @Hap6605
    @Hap6605 11 месяцев назад +1

    Its sad to see the first amtrak ive ever seen be painted to phase 5 but im glad they fixed it with 164

  • @citxsd70m-2
    @citxsd70m-2 Год назад +1

    The reason for 184’s repaint is because it was involved in an accident and Amtrak did not have the paint supplies at the time. So they just made the decision to paint it back to its original Phase V and place it back into service. Amtrak finally received the paint supplies a few weeks after putting 184 back into service and just put the Phase IV on another unit, which is 164.

  • @DanknDerpyGamer
    @DanknDerpyGamer Год назад +1

    That Metro-North heritage unit looks really neat!

  • @ChescatRailfanning
    @ChescatRailfanning Год назад +1

    Update on the SD70MACH: on June 20th, SD70MACH 505 double headed behind Metra 211 (CB&Q heritage), this is their first revenue service (not counting Franklin park RR days) ever. Also I think that unpainted SD70MACH is gonna be Metra 501

  • @NortheastRailroadFanner
    @NortheastRailroadFanner Год назад +1

    Was waiting for this!

  • @MetroNorth203Productions
    @MetroNorth203Productions 11 месяцев назад +1

    Update: In JULY 2023, Metro north railroad P32ACDM number 201 is repainted into a Conrail Paint scheme in the 40th anniversary unit.

  • @philski24
    @philski24 Год назад +1

    Cool the PennCentral wrap will end up being - black with white worms... We can only hope that its anything but... oh and lets hope the NYC is full lightning stripe not cigar band.

  • @LucyLoud2002
    @LucyLoud2002 Год назад +1

    With this next delay of the Avelia Liberty and given the problems that they've had, Brightline might stay away from those trains for Brightline West. They still have the rendering for an Avelia Liberty set, but I think they're probably sticking with Siemens for their trains. I hope they go with the classic Velaro sets because I'm not a fan of the front of the Velaro Novo sets.

  • @TPB-OPA
    @TPB-OPA Год назад +1

    CSX 1827 isn’t actually finished, but it still looks good the way it is.

    • @gloria6229
      @gloria6229 Год назад +1

      Yes! It is quite spectacular.

  • @edoio.7283
    @edoio.7283 Год назад +3

    Any news on texas central?

  • @Railfan166
    @Railfan166 Год назад +1

    Welp, SD70MACHs going into service soon means that the F40PH-2s will be replaced, but the F40PH-3s will still be running after almost 50 years, but tons of railfans will be fleeing to the UP lines.

  • @saltydabber5212
    @saltydabber5212 Год назад +1

    Did anyone else see the MBTA train pulling an Amfleet coach on the Framingham/Worcester line? I couldn’t get a picture of it

    • @alwhalen3488
      @alwhalen3488 Год назад +1

      That was the geometry train. The Amfleet car is a geometry testing car. It went down to Cape Cod and on the new South Coast Rail extension to Fall River, MA.

  • @PacificDev1995
    @PacificDev1995 11 месяцев назад

    4:30 I was to
    I thought it was just a normal CSX unit but 80% of the loco was in some sorta wrap until I realized they were making HUs

  • @KDapple
    @KDapple Год назад +1

    At this point, I’m starting to suspect that the Avelia Liberty is *too* advanced to run on the northeast corridor. Like trying to run windows 11 on a pc designed to run Windows Vista. At this point, I wouldn’t be surprised if there was another delay announcement next year.
    This also leads me to wonder if the original Acelas had the same compatibility issues

  • @IronHorsefan1869
    @IronHorsefan1869 Год назад +2

    As usual you miss big ones! The Big Boy announced a tour last month! Why are you always missing Western Steam announcements?

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад

      His priorities are rather strange. I’ve seen these videos obsess over minor Amtrak news or sniffing the green paint instead of covering actually significant news before

  • @Josephcavagnaro
    @Josephcavagnaro Год назад +1

    6:42 they shouldve wrapped them to look like olton hall

  • @MetraFan402
    @MetraFan402 Год назад +1

    Imagine the upcoming CSX Chessie System unit being half Chessie System and have CSX YN3C

    • @tylerrose5232
      @tylerrose5232 Год назад +1

      🤢

    • @nigelrichardson4327
      @nigelrichardson4327 Год назад +1

      That and other bright paint schemes are going to look so jarring when they're released. I can't wrap my head around how CSX is perfectly capable of replicating heritage roads, with examples such as CRR 800, ACL 501, & C&O 8272, and yet released a half-assed looking gevo with the excuse of "we have to let people know it's our train coming."

    • @tylerrose5232
      @tylerrose5232 Год назад

      @@nigelrichardson4327 cause that how quality in motion works

    • @gloria6229
      @gloria6229 Год назад

      @@nigelrichardson4327 Yeparoozie.

  • @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014
    @AndrewTheRocketCityRailfan4014 Год назад +1

    Your voice sounds alittle more tired that usual. You okay? Exhausted?
    It’s happening with me too for some reason and it’s driving me nuts since it’s slowing down production of my next video

  • @minnesotarailfan11
    @minnesotarailfan11 Год назад +1

    Btw Minneapolis is said mini apolis

  • @theswiller85
    @theswiller85 Год назад +2

    Florin is not a city. It is a neighborhood/district within the city of Sacramento.

    • @TohaBgood2
      @TohaBgood2 Год назад

      It's so irksome that people keep repeating this "Florin, CA" crap. It's not a city, people! Please stop!

  • @TrainTrackTrav
    @TrainTrackTrav Год назад +2

    Great coverage of the news! I'm excited to see the SD70MACHs running. The SD40JR is cool I guess, but the whole thing with CARB telling the railroads what they can and can't run here in California is ridiculous. I get the push for clean air and all that, but in my personal opinion, the California government is putting way WAY too much focus on "saving the planet" when there are far bigger issues they should be addressing. But whatever... Great video as always!

    • @TohaBgood2
      @TohaBgood2 Год назад

      California recently passed Germany for 4th largest economy in the world. A few years ack it passed the UK for 5th. We're growing almost twice faster than the red state darlings of Texas and Florida, and even faster than China.
      In other words, despite what right wing propaganda media would want to lie to you, California knows exactly what it is doing. We're all good on the advice front. You all need to figure out how to get off the yearly tax subsidies that Washington sends your red states from California's taxes, then maybe we'd be more willing to listed to the opinions of a bunch of bankrupt zombie red states.

  • @jonathanlafferty2271
    @jonathanlafferty2271 Год назад

    CSX 1827 won't be repainted yet, because CSX doesn't have any money to repaint the engine at the moment.

  • @MiaCollinsNeighborhood
    @MiaCollinsNeighborhood Год назад +2

    Snap! Avelia Liberty delayed again!

    • @user-hy6xl7tm1x
      @user-hy6xl7tm1x Год назад

      I'm with you on this one, bro!

    • @adventuresofamtrakcascades301
      @adventuresofamtrakcascades301 10 месяцев назад

      I'm honestly getting sick and tired of all this delay nonsense. I understand that it's the infrastructure, but come on!

  • @coasternamegenerator5611
    @coasternamegenerator5611 Год назад

    What gonna happen to the scenic railroads and rail museums in Cali?

  • @gloria6229
    @gloria6229 Год назад

    Will, UP, FXE, & CN become CNUPFXE?

  • @TPB-OPA
    @TPB-OPA Год назад

    We need a video for june

  • @Routeofthe400productions
    @Routeofthe400productions Год назад +1

    A lot happened

  • @gdrriley420
    @gdrriley420 Год назад +3

    Acela trains being late is 100% alstom, the pieces by WSJ and others was clearly written by alstom PR

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад

      Unless the specs given to Alstom don’t match the actual current operating conditions? There’s more than one source of problems

    • @gdrriley420
      @gdrriley420 Год назад +1

      @@andrewreynolds4949 No this is on alstom for not doing simulations FRA and amtrak have required for years around a new wheel profile.

  • @bukasb
    @bukasb Год назад +1

    Penn Central P42 time 💀

  • @TheRealRajo6466
    @TheRealRajo6466 Год назад

    4:20 some people said that the locomotive is actually suppose to paint like that basically transition from B&O to CSX
    Tbh the transition is not clean, its just wrong
    Heritage locomotive like C30-7A ABPF and C36-7 ABPF from Brazil have better transition than that

  • @CTSLRailfan
    @CTSLRailfan Год назад +1

    They didn't remove the wraps early because of peeling. lmfao

  • @Goofy1trainofficial
    @Goofy1trainofficial Год назад

    Hey, can I ask something?

  • @tom-and-mom
    @tom-and-mom Год назад +1

    5:42 all of ABC's scripted shows have been delayed to that time due to the writers strike

  • @AndrewTheRadarMan
    @AndrewTheRadarMan Год назад

    The unstreamlined charger looks so old fashioned.

  • @lowellvillerailfanproductions
    @lowellvillerailfanproductions Год назад +4

    CPKC is the new Penn Central Railroad I hope it goes down hill because it's unfair to other railroad companies

    • @joemayo8254
      @joemayo8254 Год назад +5

      It's not unfair at all. It's an end-to-end merger, not a parallel merger like Penn Central. Union Pacific is throwing a temper tantrum because CPKC threatens its status as the number one hauler of rail freight between Mexico and the United States. Also, it's rich of Union Pacific to suggest it's concerned about competition, given it holds a virtual monopoly on rail traffic in South Texas and the Central Corridor after its merger with Southern Pacific.

    • @Apoptart
      @Apoptart Год назад +3

      What Joe said

    • @lowellvillerailfanproductions
      @lowellvillerailfanproductions Год назад +1

      @@joemayo8254 Well the way I see it is that CPKC is now a railroad that stretches from Canada and Mexico and I believe that it could drive other railways customers to CPKC since they now work in USA Canada and now Mexico

    • @joemayo8254
      @joemayo8254 Год назад +2

      ​@@lowellvillerailfanproductions CPKC doesn't serve the U.S. outside of a long, thin strip running down from the Upper Midwest to the Mexican border. The only railroad they threaten is Union Pacific, which has dominated freight transportation between the U.S. and Mexico since the 1990s.

    • @lowellvillerailfanproductions
      @lowellvillerailfanproductions Год назад +1

      @@joemayo8254 it doesn't ? I thought it would sever wherever KCS would?

  • @KOOLKIDJOE428
    @KOOLKIDJOE428 Год назад +2

    This Acela avelia liberty is making me mad about the delays😠😠😠

  • @SkylarsTerribleMemes
    @SkylarsTerribleMemes Год назад +4

    yay no more terf locos

  • @adventuresofamtrakcascades301
    @adventuresofamtrakcascades301 Год назад +3

    I predict that if the delays of the Avelia Libertys continue even more, the debut could be canceled, but i don't know if that's true or not. Again, i don't know if thats the case, but honestly, i hope its not

  • @stevenherrera222
    @stevenherrera222 Год назад +1

    AGAIN?!?! WHEN WILL THE AVELIA ENTER SERVICE?!?!

  • @minnesotarailfan11
    @minnesotarailfan11 Год назад

    Yeah I don’t want the railroad to be electric or anything other than diesel and steam. But I know nothing stays the same.

    • @TohaBgood2
      @TohaBgood2 Год назад +2

      Milwaukee Road was electric and so were a bunch of railroads in the Eastern US. It's historical for them to be electric. And that's a history that was completely lost due to the carelessness of the freight railroads. Even steam is better preserved than the old electrics!

    • @darthmaul216
      @darthmaul216 Год назад +1

      Why do you not want electric?

  • @mattlandry8742
    @mattlandry8742 Год назад

    Got dam when will they update the fuckin tracks

  • @nekodrakogd9453
    @nekodrakogd9453 Год назад +2

    first i think

  • @typeblaze6557
    @typeblaze6557 Год назад +2

    Any else think California is being to strict at this point with railroads

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад +1

      Strict? They are strangling their transportation industry

    • @typeblaze6557
      @typeblaze6557 Год назад +1

      @@andrewreynolds4949 ya I know Union Pacific has already threatened to leave Los Angeles and with all these new rules coming in there going to be less interested in doing business there not to mention the idle for only 30 minutes rule is stupid for many reasons a big one is to keep air pressure for the air brakes

    • @TohaBgood2
      @TohaBgood2 Год назад

      @@andrewreynolds4949 Lol, in what way? Most of the railroads are neglecting their own equipment while they mine the remaining value out of the stuff they inherited from the pre-grand-bankruptcy railroads. California forcing these suckers to upgrade their equipment to at least 23 years old is a godsend. Our freight industry is basically a homeless dule living in squalor and drinking it's own piss. Someone has to prevent them from killing themselves off.

  • @ReverendNaughty
    @ReverendNaughty Год назад +2

    FIRST

  • @christopherstehn
    @christopherstehn Год назад +1

    this will fail

  • @sirbarongaming2138
    @sirbarongaming2138 Год назад

    I hope any active steam locomotives in California are move out of that God-forsaken state and it ridiculous policies soon.

    • @andrewreynolds4949
      @andrewreynolds4949 Год назад

      They probably will have to

    • @TohaBgood2
      @TohaBgood2 Год назад +3

      "God-forsaken", lol. I dunno, I love it. It's an amazing place to live.

    • @sirbarongaming2138
      @sirbarongaming2138 Год назад +1

      @@TohaBgood2 I only say "God Forsaken" for the California Government's decisions, not for the average citizen

    • @darthmaul216
      @darthmaul216 Год назад +1

      Why not? Less pollution will help those locomotives last long