Enjoying your channel, very informative. Getting ready to do a HERMS system myself in a few months and I can't begin to tell you how helpful your channel has been, thanks again and cheers!
Should I request for a complete guideline STET by STEP to produce best quality beer / brewers including ingredients INDEX. availability, estd. price Including presented machine and other attachment to start form an initial stage and with zero level of experience. More if any feasibility by means of finished products including utility, production personnel, establishment etc. The willing is to test a pilot project for the ultimate target about 100 machine can be set at its appropriate place.
Great review Brian! I enjoyed brewing on this machine enough that I want one! I'm done with propane. Thanks for having me over to brew with you! I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see/taste how the ESB turns out! Cheers!
Nice 1 Brian, and good on the company giving a beer kit using your code, and also a good thing they sold out, it means people are brewing!! Cheers Team, Mike.
chris kennedy really?? They were out of stock the day the video released. The had a few a couple of days ago but will not have them back in stock for a while.. That came from keg king.
I know of 9 sites that got like 200 of them in total in stock in the US from Keg king, so might just be more beer but they are actually one of the smaller retailers of robobrew.
I got you.. People are free to do what they want with purchasing. I imagine those other sites aren't offering a free beer kit with the purchase. That is all I am trying to do for my audience.
Thanks for the great vid and channel Brian - helped convince me to get a Robobrew instead of the Grainfather. With this it doesn't seem as "automated" as the other all in one systems, and still feels like I'm in control. Personally dislike the idea of a set and forget beer brewing system as the enjoyment comes from the hands on element of the brewing process. But this allows me to get more consistency in the brewing process that I dont have in my current simple setup.
Spankermatic1 Awesome! Thanks for the feedback! Be sure to check out the mods! I really think they add some great functionality to the Robobrew! Cheers! 🍻
nice video! But I don't think it's a grainfather killer. There are a few wonky things with the system that are done much better on the grainfather. I love the new systems that are available to us home brewers now Grainfather, Robo brew or the braumeister. When considering which one to buy I chose the grainfather, Braumeister being very expensive with too small of a grain capacity and Robo brew being a very economy kit. The grainfather is in the sweet spot as far as I can see, bluetooth connectivity with cloud recipes that you can launch to run the gf though the mash and boil (hop additions). I have done about 25 brews on it and I always hit or exceed my efficiency so much so I have had to edit all of my previous recipes to 85% and reduce grains. If you are able to, Do a grainfather vs robo brew video. That would be cool. Cheers!!
Thanks Kyle! I do agree with you there are some advantages and benefits to the grainfather there is an entire ecosystem that goes along with the grainfather Brewing System. I did mention that in my lifve Brew session on the robobrew. As a matter of fact I have a person locally to me that has a grainfather this going to let me borrow it to do a heads up Brewing review. I am in agreement with you on the price point I think it's a great introduction to Electric Brewing without breaking the bank. Cheers! Thanks for watching and commenting and giving your opinion!! 🍻
Old Norse brewery yeah I would say it doesn't make sense for you at that price point but you don't have the issue that I do if I had brewed that same beer on my system the grain bed would have been about two and a half inches deep which doesn't lend itself to very good efficiency.
I also found that on my Robobrew I have about a 3 degree differential between the Robo temp and my thermapen and the markings on the robobrew are off. I've only done a test run on it so far with just water, but am doing my first run this weekend, so appreciate the insight, will definitely be picking up a bag or basket for the hops after seeing that. I've also considered doing a no sparge method so may try that out if the 9gallons is enough.
Awesome! Glad you got something out of the review. Please comment back and let me know how it goes! We are doing a Live broadcast this Sunday, brewing the Zombie Dust Clone kit from Morebeer. If you have a chance stop by! Cheers!🍻
First brew went really well, I wasn't able to do no sparge because the vessel wasn't large enough to it with the mash tun and false bottom. I used my sous vide to heat the sparge water and that worked really well, hit og perfectly maybe a hair over, but all in all, extremely happy. The hop basket worked great
I would like to see you discuss large grain bills with the Robobrew. I have friends with grainfathers and they claim upto 9.5lbs. One even had a successful brew with a 10lb grain bill. I have read in various Robobrew forums that 7.5 lbs is the max.
Hahaha okay Jack that makes a little bit more sense we are going to be doing a live Brew Day this weekend and I believe that batch has like 13 pounds in it I think 20 would probably be stretching it to be honest, it would be such a thick mash that you would have a hard time recirculating. We might have to put it to the test and see just how much we can get in there in another video. Cheers! And thanks for the clarification there! 😂😂😂
well I am aussie and hey I am Brian as well lol I have been doing extract for a long time and was looking at a robo brew now I will get one great video down to keg king tomorrow cheers enjoy
Genaro Garza you could... I do have a video coming out soon that will be a better and cheaper option for that size batch... Don't know of you are on Instagram? But if you are go check us out for a preview. 👍🍻
Yeah I think that might be some of your issue. Not sure what the 1000th of an inch your credit card is but I would experiment with milling once and see if it affects your efficiency. In sure it will flow better. Malt conditioning is something else but it takes a little time to do it.
Well, you pretty much sold me on the Robobrew. My only question is, how much grain can you realistically fit into one of these at a time. I've pretty much accepted that I'm going to have to utilize reiterated mashing for big brews, I just need to know how many times I need to divide the grain.
I think you could go as thick as you dare on the mash and get 15 MAYBE 16lbs of grain in it. It is not a "perfect" system but for the money and value. Don't think you can beat it. Thanks for the comment Alex! I have profiles for brewing software. Some mods to address some of the issues I found with the system. So if you get one check those out too! Cheers! 🍻
I like 1.25 qts/lb as a ratio. I've already downloaded the profiles and adjusted recipes for Beersmith 2. I've also checked out the mods and definitely will do the sight glass one.
Alex one thing I wanted to caution you on with that ratio is that there is a good amount of Dead Space underneath of The Malt pipe that does not get absorbed by the grain the same as in like a Herms system the grain is completely submerged in the liquid.. obviously anything like that is a trial and error but I just wanted to let you know about that before you do your first Brew on it. Let me know if you get one and how it goes for you I'm always up for finding out some new information
I got the robobrew from more beer and got a Octoberfest kits all grain ... If you no wat should the mash temp be and for how long.................CHEERS
this thing does seem to be a grain father killer. I've been around when someone was brewing on a grain father and the pump almost aways got clogged from the hops. I'll have to make sure the volume marks on my brewers edge are correct. nice video man.
well this thing got clogged so much so he had to remove the pump. With the grainfather it is recommended to do a whirlpool and that keeps all of the gunk away from the filter. I have made a 100 IBU IPA and with this method I have never had a clogged pump.
Yes you are correct Kyle, I did find out later that the pump did not clog it was a defective pump I am going to release an update video on it they have already sent me another pump. There should not be a reason why you can't Whirlpool while chilling.
sweet system! Do you think it'd make a difference if the "bag" had mesh sides? I realize it may be hard to drain w/o making a mess. Also, did you heat the sparge water elsewhere? thanks
Rj Lind I don't think it would make a lot of difference, we didn't have any trouble with rinsing or sparging. Yes we did heat up the sparge water in my electric brewing kettle on my HERMS system. Thanks for the question and comments! Cheers! 🍻
That is what I would recommend. IF you are doing a lower gravity or volume (less than 5 gallons) you really won't need to do that. With a full 5 gallon batch I would recommend it. One thing you can do is heat the sparge water and put in a cooler prior to heating your mash water and hold it until sparge. The reason you can't do a full volume in the kettle is space. There is not enough kettle space to do a full volume of water. Most people are doing the same thing with the Grainfather. Cheers! 🍻
Great video. Do you believe it's a good grainfather budget altetnative? I believe it's about 1/2 price compared to grainfather here in Canada which is about 1200.
I think it comes down to what you're looking for in a Brewing System. The Grainfather does offer quite a bit of other things besides just a Brewing System, Bluetooth, recipe creators, if those things don't matter to you why spend the money? One of my followers is going to let me Brew on his Grainfather system and I will do a review of that as well in the near future... I do think it is a good deal.
I like the recipe maker but I'm not going to pay 3x the price for it when theirs great programs online for $2 $20 whatever for the same thing. Bluetooth has never been something I care about.
Great video, I've been brewing on a 240V 5500W EHERMS for a while, but out of curiosity I purchased one of these yesterday (morebeer was still sold out, but i found one elsewhere). I look forward to brewing my smaller batches in this thing, maybe even doubling up brew days!
Hey guys, love the video. Just got my new robobrew with pump in the mail today and my gallon markings are quite off as well. Do you know of anything that Kegking is doing to rectify this? Pretty annoying for a unit that costs close to $500..
Tom Morrison the V3 is supposed to have the issue fixed. I do have a sight glass mod that is very easy to do. Turns the pump return into a sight glass. Thanks for the comment!! Cheers!👍🍻
Cool thanks for the response! Is that the only difference between the v2 and v3? In other words is it worth it to wait for the v3? Or just do the markings like you guys did (currently doing that). It’s not a huge deal just annoying. Also, (I haven’t checked the video yet, so don’t know how extensive the mod is so bare with me here) will the mod void the warranty at all? Cheers guys thanks again
Sure, Tom no problem! There are a few other things that are upgrades on the V3. Another one of the upgrades is the ability to set parameters for step mashing in the control panel. The other upgrade is a cam lock fitting for the sparge arm. Just like the video that I have here. ruclips.net/video/cRSf7GTPI-M/видео.html none of the modifications that I have done to the robobrew void the warranty in any way. Looks like you got some video watching to do LOL cheers Tom! 👍🍻
Sure Dan, I have not done one, but I have seen several posts on Facebook of people doing them. Let me know how you like the Robobrew and if you do a sour.. Cheers!! 👍🍻
There is the ROBOBREW user group.. Mostly members from AUS and abroad, and there is the ROBOBREW USA Group.. I am an admin there, I will approve you for that one just search and it should come up. cheers!
I'm waiting for a 50 Liter 13.2 us gallon version of the Grainfather on 220 volt. The Braumeister is way too pricey and the plus version cooling sucks.
Enjoying your channel, very informative. Getting ready to do a HERMS system myself in a few months and I can't begin to tell you how helpful your channel has been, thanks again and cheers!
Thank you very much for the comment John!! I do my best and I appreciate the feedback! 🍻
Should I request for a complete guideline STET by STEP to produce best quality beer / brewers including ingredients INDEX. availability, estd. price Including presented machine and other attachment to start form an initial stage and with zero level of experience. More if any feasibility by means of finished products including utility, production personnel, establishment etc. The willing is to test a pilot project for the ultimate target about 100 machine can be set at its appropriate place.
ZHM - ITL not sure I completely understand the question?
Great video,especially for new people to the home brewing,thank .
Thanks Colin! Appreciate the feedback! Cheers! 👍🍻
Thank you so much! I’ve been shopping for an small electrical unit and this video sold me!
Glad you found it helpful! 👍🍻
Great review Brian! I enjoyed brewing on this machine enough that I want one! I'm done with propane. Thanks for having me over to brew with you! I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see/taste how the ESB turns out! Cheers!
I agree Mark! It was fun having you over to brew on the system. I better get me some of that ESB as well!! 🍻
You will!
Nice 1 Brian, and good on the company giving a beer kit using your code, and also a good thing they sold out, it means people are brewing!! Cheers Team, Mike.
Right on Mike!! These things are pretty cool! Cheers! 🍻
robobrews have never gone out of stock, ive been able to see and buy them for 6 months straight on morebeer
chris kennedy really?? They were out of stock the day the video released. The had a few a couple of days ago but will not have them back in stock for a while.. That came from keg king.
I know of 9 sites that got like 200 of them in total in stock in the US from Keg king, so might just be more beer but they are actually one of the smaller retailers of robobrew.
I got you.. People are free to do what they want with purchasing. I imagine those other sites aren't offering a free beer kit with the purchase. That is all I am trying to do for my audience.
Based on price point (and on sale for where I buy) and your videos on this I will be buying one. Great reviews and honest feedback - mike
Thanks for the comment! 👍🍻
Great video mate! You really address some good points especially how easy it is to block the pump with hop debris!
Cheers mate! 🍻
Thank Leo! Thanks for watching and commenting!! See you on a live stream soon!! 🍻
Great video! I know this was an older model than the v3.1 I have (or the latest which is v3.1.1) but the information was still very helpful.
Thangs for the feedback. Glad it helped!! 👍🍻
You can the heat on the outside when draining of the grains. Nice
edit nice video thanks
Thanks John! I rarely get comments on my edits!! I really try hard to make them tight! I am really thankful when someone notices!! Cheers!
Thanks for the great vid and channel Brian - helped convince me to get a Robobrew instead of the Grainfather. With this it doesn't seem as "automated" as the other all in one systems, and still feels like I'm in control. Personally dislike the idea of a set and forget beer brewing system as the enjoyment comes from the hands on element of the brewing process. But this allows me to get more consistency in the brewing process that I dont have in my current simple setup.
Spankermatic1 Awesome! Thanks for the feedback! Be sure to check out the mods! I really think they add some great functionality to the Robobrew! Cheers! 🍻
Very well done and informative. Thanks!
Frank Fedel thank you for commenting! Cheers!🍻
Good video. You did a great job on putting it together. Cheers, Brian!
Thanks Brian!! 🤘🤘
Good job. This definitely made up my mine to get one. Can’t wait to brew in it.
Thanks! Let me know how it goes! 👍🍻
What are u gonna get?
Great video! Already messaged you. After moving to an apartment in ready for an alternative. Really looking forward to using this. Cheers!
Thanks Andrew I'll put you on the list and make sure that you know immediately as soon as I do!! 🍻Cheers!
nice video! But I don't think it's a grainfather killer. There are a few wonky things with the system that are done much better on the grainfather. I love the new systems that are available to us home brewers now Grainfather, Robo brew or the braumeister. When considering which one to buy I chose the grainfather, Braumeister being very expensive with too small of a grain capacity and Robo brew being a very economy kit. The grainfather is in the sweet spot as far as I can see, bluetooth connectivity with cloud recipes that you can launch to run the gf though the mash and boil (hop additions). I have done about 25 brews on it and I always hit or exceed my efficiency so much so I have had to edit all of my previous recipes to 85% and reduce grains. If you are able to, Do a grainfather vs robo brew video. That would be cool. Cheers!!
Thanks Kyle! I do agree with you there are some advantages and benefits to the grainfather there is an entire ecosystem that goes along with the grainfather Brewing System. I did mention that in my lifve Brew session on the robobrew. As a matter of fact I have a person locally to me that has a grainfather this going to let me borrow it to do a heads up Brewing review. I am in agreement with you on the price point I think it's a great introduction to Electric Brewing without breaking the bank. Cheers! Thanks for watching and commenting and giving your opinion!! 🍻
Ciao, sai dirmi quale prodotto usate per pulire tutta l'attrezzatura?
PBW
Great review there, Sparky. At a pricetag at over 900 usd up here north it's not for me as a second brew system. Cheers
Old Norse brewery yeah I would say it doesn't make sense for you at that price point but you don't have the issue that I do if I had brewed that same beer on my system the grain bed would have been about two and a half inches deep which doesn't lend itself to very good efficiency.
I also found that on my Robobrew I have about a 3 degree differential between the Robo temp and my thermapen and the markings on the robobrew are off. I've only done a test run on it so far with just water, but am doing my first run this weekend, so appreciate the insight, will definitely be picking up a bag or basket for the hops after seeing that. I've also considered doing a no sparge method so may try that out if the 9gallons is enough.
Awesome! Glad you got something out of the review. Please comment back and let me know how it goes! We are doing a Live broadcast this Sunday, brewing the Zombie Dust Clone kit from Morebeer. If you have a chance stop by! Cheers!🍻
First brew went really well, I wasn't able to do no sparge because the vessel wasn't large enough to it with the mash tun and false bottom. I used my sous vide to heat the sparge water and that worked really well, hit og perfectly maybe a hair over, but all in all, extremely happy. The hop basket worked great
Awesome glad to hear it went well. Question: what Qt. Per lb ratio did you use?
I would like to see you discuss large grain bills with the Robobrew. I have friends with grainfathers and they claim upto 9.5lbs. One even had a successful brew with a 10lb grain bill. I have read in various Robobrew forums that 7.5 lbs is the max.
Jack Robbins I'm not trying to be a smart-aleck but did you watch the video? We used 10 lb of grain in the batch that we did and had plenty of room.
Actually meant to say kg like all the aussies say on the forums. So a 9kg would be more like 20 lbs.
Hahaha okay Jack that makes a little bit more sense we are going to be doing a live Brew Day this weekend and I believe that batch has like 13 pounds in it I think 20 would probably be stretching it to be honest, it would be such a thick mash that you would have a hard time recirculating. We might have to put it to the test and see just how much we can get in there in another video. Cheers! And thanks for the clarification there! 😂😂😂
well I am aussie and hey I am Brian as well lol I have been doing extract for a long time and was looking at a robo brew now I will get one great video down to keg king tomorrow cheers enjoy
Thanks Mate!! 👍🍻
G,day mate good name Brian Have a nice day cheers from Brian Down under
can this brew small batches with no problems? I am only going to be making avg 2 gal batches. any issues?
Genaro Garza you could... I do have a video coming out soon that will be a better and cheaper option for that size batch... Don't know of you are on Instagram? But if you are go check us out for a preview. 👍🍻
Thanks for the video. Do you think this system will handle 13-13 1/2 lbs of grain
Should not be a problem
I was actually shocked to hear how fast your mash was draining once you lifted the malt pipe. Mine is only ever a slow drip, even with rice hulls!
Hmmm maybe your crush is too fine? Do you have a V2 or V3?
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers V3. I have a cereal killer and have it set to credit card thickness. I also double mill my grain. Too much?
Yeah I think that might be some of your issue. Not sure what the 1000th of an inch your credit card is but I would experiment with milling once and see if it affects your efficiency. In sure it will flow better. Malt conditioning is something else but it takes a little time to do it.
Can you provide the ingredients for the brew kit that wasn't available? I already bought the Brewzilla.
It was a kit it's linked in the description. 👍🍻
Well, you pretty much sold me on the Robobrew. My only question is, how much grain can you realistically fit into one of these at a time. I've pretty much accepted that I'm going to have to utilize reiterated mashing for big brews, I just need to know how many times I need to divide the grain.
I think you could go as thick as you dare on the mash and get 15 MAYBE 16lbs of grain in it. It is not a "perfect" system but for the money and value. Don't think you can beat it. Thanks for the comment Alex! I have profiles for brewing software. Some mods to address some of the issues I found with the system. So if you get one check those out too! Cheers! 🍻
I like 1.25 qts/lb as a ratio. I've already downloaded the profiles and adjusted recipes for Beersmith 2. I've also checked out the mods and definitely will do the sight glass one.
Alex one thing I wanted to caution you on with that ratio is that there is a good amount of Dead Space underneath of The Malt pipe that does not get absorbed by the grain the same as in like a Herms system the grain is completely submerged in the liquid.. obviously anything like that is a trial and error but I just wanted to let you know about that before you do your first Brew on it. Let me know if you get one and how it goes for you I'm always up for finding out some new information
Good Info Brian
Thanks Kevin! I really enjoyed brewing on it. I will be doing a live brew day on it soon. Cheers! 🍻
I got the robobrew from more beer and got a Octoberfest kits all grain ... If you no wat should the mash temp be and for how long.................CHEERS
152 should give you a good balance of body and alcohol content. Cheers Tim! 👍🍻
this thing does seem to be a grain father killer. I've been around when someone was brewing on a grain father and the pump almost aways got clogged from the hops. I'll have to make sure the volume marks on my brewers edge are correct. nice video man.
ColoradoFlyFisherMan thanks man! Trust but verify my friend.. Cheers! 🍻
well this thing got clogged so much so he had to remove the pump. With the grainfather it is recommended to do a whirlpool and that keeps all of the gunk away from the filter. I have made a 100 IBU IPA and with this method I have never had a clogged pump.
Yes you are correct Kyle, I did find out later that the pump did not clog it was a defective pump I am going to release an update video on it they have already sent me another pump. There should not be a reason why you can't Whirlpool while chilling.
sweet system! Do you think it'd make a difference if the "bag" had mesh sides? I realize it may be hard to drain w/o making a mess. Also, did you heat the sparge water elsewhere? thanks
Rj Lind I don't think it would make a lot of difference, we didn't have any trouble with rinsing or sparging. Yes we did heat up the sparge water in my electric brewing kettle on my HERMS system. Thanks for the question and comments! Cheers! 🍻
Where did you buy the aerator that you're using on the wort recirculation arm?
www.morebeer.com/products/siphon-spray-wort-aerator.html?a_aid=shrtcrct
Short Circuited Brewers thank you
@@nu11pointerexception no problem! 👍🍻
So the 2 gallons of sparge water needs to be heated up separately, on a stovetop?
That is what I would recommend. IF you are doing a lower gravity or volume (less than 5 gallons) you really won't need to do that. With a full 5 gallon batch I would recommend it. One thing you can do is heat the sparge water and put in a cooler prior to heating your mash water and hold it until sparge. The reason you can't do a full volume in the kettle is space. There is not enough kettle space to do a full volume of water. Most people are doing the same thing with the Grainfather. Cheers! 🍻
@@ShortCircuitedBrewers What's the best way to calculate how much sparge water you need?
@@sammyreyes63 I use beersmith for all my calculations.
Great video. Do you believe it's a good grainfather budget altetnative? I believe it's about 1/2 price compared to grainfather here in Canada which is about 1200.
I think it comes down to what you're looking for in a Brewing System. The Grainfather does offer quite a bit of other things besides just a Brewing System, Bluetooth, recipe creators, if those things don't matter to you why spend the money? One of my followers is going to let me Brew on his Grainfather system and I will do a review of that as well in the near future... I do think it is a good deal.
I like the recipe maker but I'm not going to pay 3x the price for it when theirs great programs online for $2 $20 whatever for the same thing.
Bluetooth has never been something I care about.
Great video, I've been brewing on a 240V 5500W EHERMS for a while, but out of curiosity I purchased one of these yesterday (morebeer was still sold out, but i found one elsewhere). I look forward to brewing my smaller batches in this thing, maybe even doubling up brew days!
Cool I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it! Cheers! 🍻
I bought 2 this week the day you said they were sold out. never been out for me.
Trying to find a supply of robo brew in the uk any clues.
Let.me check, the version 3 is out now BTW. I will get back to you after I contact the folks at kegland. 👍🍻
Hey guys, love the video. Just got my new robobrew with pump in the mail today and my gallon markings are quite off as well. Do you know of anything that Kegking is doing to rectify this? Pretty annoying for a unit that costs close to $500..
Tom Morrison the V3 is supposed to have the issue fixed. I do have a sight glass mod that is very easy to do. Turns the pump return into a sight glass. Thanks for the comment!! Cheers!👍🍻
Here is the mod video ruclips.net/video/hFqiNu_jfRg/видео.html
Cool thanks for the response! Is that the only difference between the v2 and v3? In other words is it worth it to wait for the v3? Or just do the markings like you guys did (currently doing that). It’s not a huge deal just annoying. Also, (I haven’t checked the video yet, so don’t know how extensive the mod is so bare with me here) will the mod void the warranty at all? Cheers guys thanks again
Sure, Tom no problem! There are a few other things that are upgrades on the V3. Another one of the upgrades is the ability to set parameters for step mashing in the control panel. The other upgrade is a cam lock fitting for the sparge arm. Just like the video that I have here. ruclips.net/video/cRSf7GTPI-M/видео.html none of the modifications that I have done to the robobrew void the warranty in any way. Looks like you got some video watching to do LOL cheers Tom! 👍🍻
Hahaha man I guess I do! I’m not sure I can wait til March, so I think I’ll just tough it out. Thanks again guys. Cheers
Just bought a RoboBrew yesterday. I havnt found any videos yet, but I was wondering if it’s possible todo a kettle sour with the Robobrew ?
Sure Dan, I have not done one, but I have seen several posts on Facebook of people doing them. Let me know how you like the Robobrew and if you do a sour.. Cheers!! 👍🍻
I’m sure I’m going to love it. Going to do my first batch next week.!! Will do a sour once I have fermenter/keg space
Don't know of you are on Facebook or not but there are a couple of Robobrew groups on there that would be able to give you some more info.
Yep I’m of Facebook. I will look, you recommend any?
There is the ROBOBREW user group.. Mostly members from AUS and abroad, and there is the ROBOBREW USA Group.. I am an admin there, I will approve you for that one just search and it should come up. cheers!
I'm waiting for a 50 Liter 13.2 us gallon version of the Grainfather on 220 volt. The Braumeister is way too pricey and the plus version cooling sucks.
African Twin that will be interesting to see. If it happens in the USA..
Any chance on a new review for the version 3?
Hhhmmm that just might be in the works.. 😉