Fender Tone Master PRO vs Neural DSP Quad Cortex: Which is the king of the amp modelers?

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  • Опубликовано: 3 янв 2025

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  • @neocampus9043
    @neocampus9043 Год назад +19

    Leo, your videos are the benchmark for modeler comparisons, every minute worth watching!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      WOW, thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments!!! Really appreciated!

  • @StratsRUs
    @StratsRUs Год назад +28

    I hope this means Fender have invested in strong future updates of Firmware etc and really immerse themselves fully into the modeller world.
    I think a Helix 2.0 with Profiling etc would sway me as I think Line 6 have been very good to us regarding the richness of updates.
    Great playing and dedication as always Leo, well done !

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +2

      Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the playing!!!
      Yes, there is a lot of space for improvements with FW upgrades...like new amps, new cabs, etc.
      I do agree...Line 6 is doing a great job in upgrading theyr unit via FW...I was impressed by the FW 3.5
      Thank you!

  • @benjoshd3386
    @benjoshd3386 Год назад +11

    So much effort and hard work you put for this comparison .Mad respect to you

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and recognise the effort!!!

  • @LaCajaDeSnake
    @LaCajaDeSnake Год назад +30

    Thank you, you are the best, the most impartial and the one with the best analysis on all of RUclips ❤

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +3

      Hi, thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments that really make me happy!!!!

  • @400_billion_suns
    @400_billion_suns Год назад +12

    Leo, your comparisons are so good. Using real amps that you live mic’d and then shot your own IRs from makes all the difference. Also, using short clips with the real amp in between makes it much easier to hear any differences. Great job and thanks for giving us these helpful reviews!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!! Thank you for all these amazing compliments!!!

  • @erikjohnson2976
    @erikjohnson2976 8 месяцев назад +4

    This is, hands down, the finest review of these two great processors. And, it is great to see someone actually purchasing both for the review, instead of relying on the company to send a free sample for "review" (in other words, compensation in exchange for a good review). Your independence brings so much more gravity to your work and findings. Great stuff!!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  8 месяцев назад

      Thank you soooo much for such amazing compliments!!!! I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!!

  • @mikealpinist3818
    @mikealpinist3818 Год назад +3

    Damn. When you said I'm one and you are almost 30 thousand it hit me. You should have had at least 3 times the subscribers you have now. I'm sure you will get there as your work is really top quality as it could possibly be.
    I also wonder when all the other units will catch up with what Roland has achieve in terms of latency.. it's the number one factor that makes me feel I'm not missing out with all the other units.. But both units sound great. As everything does now days with enough tweaking.
    take care Leo!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much for you nice words!!!! Thank you also for sharing you opinion...and yes, so far BOSS latency is the best, together with NUX.

  • @IsaacLausell
    @IsaacLausell Год назад +4

    I think these are the best reviews on RUclips. You bring both musicianship and technical knowledge of the gear.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi Isaac, thank you soooo much for such an amazing compliment!!!!

    • @IsaacLausell
      @IsaacLausell Год назад +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr it is well deserved my friend

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      ♥️ ♥️🙏

  • @Tasjudoka
    @Tasjudoka Год назад +1

    Ur intro songs are incredible. I remember being blown away by things like Flying in a Blue Dream when I was growing up. Your intros are at that level IMO

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Wow, considering that Joe is one of my hero...this is really a super compliment!!! I can not tell you thank you enough and for sure this is a great encouragement for making better music!!!!
      Thank you so much!

  • @greymatter800
    @greymatter800 Год назад +5

    Thank you, Leo, for this thorough in-depth comparison - you've put a lot of work in it! Very useful! I prefer the sound of Fender Tone Master Pro though, as it is closer to the real amp (to my ears and taste), as the real amps in your test are also somewhat darker and mellower than both amp modellers. I also prefer the size and tougher tank-built-look of Fender, which might work better for the stage conditions - but I have to try out both units myself in person in order to have a well-based opinion - this is just my impression from the video test.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome, I'm happy that you like the video and thank you also for sharing your opinion and your findings!!!

  • @CarloLibertini
    @CarloLibertini Год назад +10

    Leo, thank you very much for all your hard work! I truly appreciate it. Fantastic comparison! Extremely helpful… great playing as always!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much; I'm really happy that you find the video useful and of course that you like the playing!!!

  • @WholeLottaBulldog
    @WholeLottaBulldog Год назад +5

    The best reviewer on the RUclips. Cheers Leo

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!

  • @KeberMaknaan
    @KeberMaknaan 3 месяца назад +1

    man, Leo, your opening music just awesome. I think you got that “vibing formula” love it so much

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  3 месяца назад

      Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!! When you like my music...I'm super happy!!!
      If you like this song, maybe you may want to check out my EP here: ruclips.net/video/rORYU3-v4t4/видео.html
      Thank you!!!

  • @georgebarry8640
    @georgebarry8640 Год назад +6

    Leo, your reviews just getting better and better! I used my ears..and I agree, the Neural just sounds better. Also, profiling is a powerful "future-proof" feature. I think Fender gets some of its efforts right...but in the end, the ears have to be satisfied and the user has to find it easy to CREATE. We are artists, after all. So, the Fender falls just a little short. But both will make alot of musicians happy. Thank You.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the videos!!!!
      Thank you also for sharing your opinions and your findings!!!

  • @Gabeflow
    @Gabeflow Год назад +3

    Both units are amazing to me! I love the work that each of these companies have put into their amp modeling products.

  • @gomes1466
    @gomes1466 Год назад +3

    The best “gear comparison “ chanel ever!!!🤘🏻🤘🏻

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you for such an amazing compliment!!!!

  • @BeachJazzMusic
    @BeachJazzMusic Год назад +5

    The Tone Master is a lot bigger than I realized. I have a Helix, Axe-Fx III and a Quad Cortex. I think they all sound different and love them all for what they do. I don't see at this point I would need to add the Tone Master to my collection. With the addition of the desktop editor for the Quad Cortex and also a firmware update to it since yesterday it's what most people wanted and Neural has delivered even though it took a lot longer than their customers had hope but so far it has worked flawlessly.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Hi, yes, I have also realised how big the TMP is...just after comparing it to the QC...I expected the TMP to be smaller, actually. Thank you also for sharing your opinions and your findings!

  • @jimamsden
    @jimamsden Год назад +5

    Agree 100% with your 2 cents. QC desktop editor is out and it's fantastic. QC tones and ease if use make it a winner. However, all these units sound really good and you can't go wrong with any modeler or real amp for great tone today.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much for sharing your findings!!

  • @DogdaySunrise
    @DogdaySunrise Год назад +2

    As always I was looking forward to your video on this unit. Very informative, great work!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!!!!

  • @Scott__C
    @Scott__C Год назад +4

    I think you bring up a great point about the ToneMaster being young. A really interesting project would be to compare ToneMaster with QC/Helix/etc. with their initial release firmware.
    Personally, profiling isn't a feature I care that much about since that's why I buy those units is for others to do that work, lol. But, I also don't think every unit needs that, because at that point, they're all becoming too much the same. They all sound great now, so I don't think you can really go wrong with anything these days.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, thank you for sharing your opinion and your findings!

  • @merlinoner
    @merlinoner Год назад +2

    Thanks for your honest review. It's rare now a days in the internet.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome and thank you so much for such great compliment!!!

  • @vlado19651
    @vlado19651 4 месяца назад +1

    Very good work, as always. You have some of the best tests you can find on youtube!👍

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 месяца назад

      Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!!

  • @daveinDc
    @daveinDc Год назад +3

    I was hoping what I call "The Pope of Tone" to do a video like this. Rock on your holiness Leo!
    😊

  • @JTB--
    @JTB-- Год назад +5

    Nice one Leo. Excellent comparison video as always!!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

    • @SirPraiseSun
      @SirPraiseSun Год назад +1

      best comparisons on yt

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you sooo much!!!

  • @Gearheadworkhops
    @Gearheadworkhops Год назад +1

    Grazie Leo another great review. I will wait until next year for the Fender Tone Master Pro pawn shop edition. Less money and more amps, cabs and fx's. I can't believe they let this one out of the gate like this.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Grazie a te, sono contento che ti piaccia il video!!!
      Posso chiederti dove hai sentito della pawn shop edition?
      Grazie ancora!!

  • @64north20west
    @64north20west Год назад +3

    Actually, your opinion is pretty important. I think Fender has a great product there, but it is 2 years behind Quad Cortex and it is anyone's guess when they will catch or surpass the competition. I don't personally need profiling, but that may be a big deal for many. It still seems to me that Axe FX 3 is the top modeler out there, but it costs a bit more. Thank you for another great review, Leo.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome, I'm really happy that you like the video and thank you also for sharing your opinion! For sure we need more FW iterations...at least to increase the amps available....let's cross out fingers....
      Thank you!

  • @DowserGratt
    @DowserGratt Год назад +1

    Hello Leo,
    Thanks a lot for this video. I was looking to buy the Quad Cortex a lot, and since Fender put out the Tone Master Pro, I hesitated. Since your video is well explained and well documented, I'm gonna go with the Quad Cortex. Suits my needs more than the Fender.
    Once again, thank you Leo !

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!

  • @AbsoluteGuitarNerd
    @AbsoluteGuitarNerd Год назад +3

    At 31:31 you say that you wanted to compare more overdriven models available in both units as well as real amp.
    What about the EVH5150 down on the floor to your right, I've heard it's somewhat overdriven?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      The problem is that the TMP has the stealth version, and I have the normal one....so I guess that there are some differences....I will give it a try in future videos....even if I'm not 100% sure it is gonna be an "apple to apple" comparison

  • @TheRealChetManley
    @TheRealChetManley Год назад +1

    In a blind test no one could tell the difference in the intro. They all sound good 😊
    Awesome comparison, lol @ QC app coming soon, they have been saying that for 2 years.
    I agree with your findings the QC is the better device right now.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, thank you, I'm really happy that you like the video!!! Yes, the QC app took a lot of time...but at least finally it's here....

  • @nonobrochacho240
    @nonobrochacho240 2 дня назад +1

    This is an amazing demo of these. Honestly I think they’re really close but I like the tone master pro best.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  День назад

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you appreciate the video!
      Thank you also for sharing your findings!

  • @expresidentfortune
    @expresidentfortune Год назад +3

    I clicked 'like' before even watching the vid, bravo Leo!

  • @QuickSticks8771
    @QuickSticks8771 Год назад

    You guys are so fortunate to have the choice these units at around the price.
    In Australia the QC is a thousand dollars more expensive and not always available

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, thank you for sharing and I'm sorry for your situation with these devices.
      I hope things will improve in future.
      Thank you!

    • @QuickSticks8771
      @QuickSticks8771 Год назад +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr thank you for the kind words Leo but no need to be sorry .
      We still have access to all these incredible devices they just cost more like everything else we get
      The bi product of living on an island at the bottom of the world 🙏🏻

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      I see, thank you for sharing!

  • @jcoulter43
    @jcoulter43 Год назад +5

    Excellent video and demo song as always Leo. The Tone Master is a good looking unit, but it's missing a lot of key features the QC already has. Like you said, the Fender is in its infancy, so we shall see what support Fender offers. Like another statement a commentor made, if Line 6 made a Helix 2.0 and incorporated the new features the QC/Tone Master have, I'd probably buy that first due to their history of updates and support, but that's just my personal opinion. Can't wait to see how your opinion may change over time while using the Tone Master (or if you sell it or stop using it for any reason). Keep up the good work. God bless and rock on 🎸😎👍

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much: I'm super happy that you like the song!
      Yes, we have to hope in regular firmware upgrades...for instance in order to add amps, cabs, etc....something Fractal, Line 6, BOSS have done a lot in the past...and are actually continuing doing...This Fender platform for sure needs time to mature and evolve.
      Thank you!

    • @Scott__C
      @Scott__C Год назад

      I'm of the opinion that everybody doesn't need to copy everybody else. If they do, why have more than one or two companies making these things?

    • @jcoulter43
      @jcoulter43 Год назад +1

      @@Scott__C I agree with you about innovation. Profiling is a key feature of the QC and Kemper and not having that ability in the Fender product that costs the same is a con for purchase. If Fender's modelling sounds as good or better than profiles, it may be a moot point eventually.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      I do agree!

  • @GeorgeBacan
    @GeorgeBacan Год назад +1

    Perfect review, Leo! I also agree with what you said about visual beauty and esthetics. As you said, as we grow older we want to see that artistic visual beauty which gets us inspired to play. 🙂👍

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you soooo much!!! Yes, I totally agree....😀 music...art...beauty....things that go together....😀

  • @catalyzed8457
    @catalyzed8457 Год назад +3

    Was seriously waiting for you to drop one of them off your knees at the end there! 😳😄

  • @lyleanderson5407
    @lyleanderson5407 Год назад +5

    Great review! I am surprised no company has offered a power section for powering external pedals as that seem like a must have. The last unit that wowed me was the TC Electronics G System because is was far ahead of it's time. I think AI is going to be playing a larger role as that is the next evolution in processors.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you, I'm happy that you like the review! That's a good point...outlets for external pedals would be nice and useful! Yes, AI profiling is already a great option...NAM docet.
      Thank you!

  • @mpmmarcelo
    @mpmmarcelo Год назад +1

    Thank you! You are doing a great job showing the new equipment.

  • @mijaatin
    @mijaatin Год назад +1

    Another quality review/comparison from you Leo! Thanks!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

  • @ManuelManjarrez.
    @ManuelManjarrez. Год назад +2

    thank you for that amazing quality content Leo

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!

  • @chusssMusic
    @chusssMusic Год назад +1

    Another great video. I loved the demo song. Your effort and dedication is something else Leo. Sincere thanks to you for all what you offer.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you sooooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video and the music!!!
      Really appreciated!!!

  • @itamar_vidal
    @itamar_vidal Год назад +1

    Another great video Leo. Congrats!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!

  • @robertgladstein
    @robertgladstein Год назад +1

    That was a great in depth look at both units..i decided to go with the tone master pro because it was $200 cheaper and its newer but thank you for that analysis...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!!!
      Thank you also for sharing your final decision!

  • @RaffaelloGianfranco
    @RaffaelloGianfranco Год назад +1

    Grazie Leo per le tue eccellenti recensioni, sempre utilissime!
    Inoltre vorrei complimentarmi con Te non solo per la tua evidente bravura “Chitarristica” ma soprattutto per la composizione dei tuoi brani e, cosa che trovo veramente magnifica, l’uso della voce ad accompagnare varie linee melodiche insieme alla Chitarra.
    Complimenti Leo 🙂

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +2

      Wow, grazie davvero per questi bellissimi compimenti! Sono veramente felice che ti piacciano le mie composizioni...per me è super importante! Sono anche contento che hai notati le voci e che ti piacciano!
      Grazie veramente per aver trovato il tempo di scrivermi!

  • @poorbrokeguitarist
    @poorbrokeguitarist 9 месяцев назад +1

    Great playing as always.

  • @rinkydinky-ob9pe
    @rinkydinky-ob9pe Год назад +1

    Thank you Leo , you helped make my decision easier and I’ve gone with the neural machine

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome and I'm happy to have been of some help!!!

    • @rinkydinky-ob9pe
      @rinkydinky-ob9pe Год назад +1

      which powered speaker would you recommend with it ?@@LeoGibsonGtr

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Hi, I use my studio monitor or I go directly into the mixer for live use, therefore I don't have experience in that topic. I've a heard very positive feedback about the Friedman FRFR speakers...If I had to choose, I would probably select those ones.
      Thank you!

  • @steveliberty
    @steveliberty Год назад +4

    For reference, I use an HX Stomp with a ToneX. I think the QC sounded better, looks better, and would fit a pedalboard more easily. The Fender has a lot going for it, including the user interface, but one big concern I have is firmware / app updates. Fender abandoned the Mustang platform from what I understand. Are they fully committed to support the Tone Master platform ith frequent updates like Line does on the Stomp/Helix/etc.? What are their plans for enhancing the current model through firmware updates? Will they bring a lot more amps, and improve the quality of the ones already there? The QC has an effectively unlimited set of amps to choose from (because captures can be added, commercial, or your own). I think Fender made a mistake by pricing the TMP at this level. Their first modeler/multifx unit should have been more like $800. Only time will tell if they mature this product fully.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, thank you so much for sharing your findings ... interesting points...

  • @rpadvideo
    @rpadvideo Год назад +3

    another fantastic video, Leo! i really appreciate your work -- it has more thought than other RUclips guitar videos and you're so good at explaining the practical applications of technical features. i'm looking forward to seeing how the TMP evolves with firmware updates. one aspect of the TMP that i'm interested to learn more about is how using the loops effects latency; hopefully you get to cover that in a future video.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much for such amazing compliments!!!!
      Yes, I'm gonna do a latency dedicated video...I'm also curious to check out how latency sum up using all those external loops....
      Thank you!

  • @moroboshidan7960
    @moroboshidan7960 Год назад +2

    My opinion is that your demo song was fantastic.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much for such an amazing compliment!!! When you like my music...I'm super happy!!!

  • @hellsing1983
    @hellsing1983 Год назад +9

    My choise would be based first of all based on tone. QC seems a bit better, after features like profiling. QC wins again. Last of all, I would like a smaller size because I would like to use it with to external pedal I have. Which means QC again. The things that the Tonemaster does better I don't care that much about. And the Tonemaster doesn't have enough high gain models. Well yet...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Hi, thank you for sharing your findings and you choice!

  • @BrianVallotton
    @BrianVallotton 11 месяцев назад +1

    Hi Leo! I sold my Quad Cortex I had for a year. I bought the TMP. I do not have any amps or pedals that I needed to model so the capturing was not important to me. I like the UI of the TMP. My needs are way simpler than many people. I do not use many effects or different presets. Frankly my little pedalboard with Keeley Compressor Plus, Keeley AT Super Mod, UA Dream 65, and Keeley Halo is what I have been using at church and it is my sound.
    So why even have an all in one modeling unit? For the fun of it! I like being able to use the TMP and it's built in Bluetooth to play along with songs at home. I also like how it has the Scribble Strips so I always know what I have going on. I always consider your videos to be the best on RUclips. You are very valuable to me and many others. Thank you for this top notch work you are doing for the entire music community. God bless you and all you love.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  11 месяцев назад +1

      Hi Brian, thank you so much for sharing your experience and your findings!!!
      I love to hear the experience of our community!!!
      I'm really happy that you appreciate the videos and to be of some help!!!

  • @wolvesandguitars
    @wolvesandguitars Год назад +1

    Fractal. Great playing as usual!!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much....when you like my playing ... I'm super happy!!

    • @wolvesandguitars
      @wolvesandguitars Год назад +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr I still can’t believe the edits! It’s so real when you and your brothers all play in same room!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      😀👍

  • @filim79
    @filim79 Год назад +1

    great review as always!!👍

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!

  • @Studiomanberlin
    @Studiomanberlin Год назад +5

    Thanks for the great review. I made a very similar comparison and despite I really wanted to like the Fender device (as it is very convenient to use), the sound quality of other than Fender amps is lacking vs the Quad Cortex. When it comes to Fender amps, you can get the same results with the QC or FM3 using the same IR. Also the overdrive section in the Fender device was not really convincing as being more "digital" sounding when used with the amp sims. I will send my Fender device back :-(

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      You are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!!
      I'm also happy that you have got the same results I have obtained...very interesting...thank you for sharing!

  • @adairo16
    @adairo16 Год назад +1

    Really great video, maybe it will be interesting to take in count the release date and how many updates has adquired each product. To this point, Fender product is kind of a baby using dipers vs Quad Cortex as a teenager

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
      Yes, the TMP is in its infancy...I do agree...

  • @Slavetskiy
    @Slavetskiy Год назад +2

    Nice review, Leo! Yes, QC have more flexibility. But, new tone pro is "too green "😊. So, let see after. Btw, after installation of Cortex Control Beta my PC has a Blue Dead screen, so be careful!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you, I'm happy that you like the video!!!!
      Yes, I really hope that Fender will keep coming FW upgrades....thank you also for sharing the problems of the QC app....

  • @ChakraOver9k
    @ChakraOver9k Год назад +10

    Finally 🔥🔥

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +6

      😀👍...this video took me an infinite amount of time....😀
      Thank you for your patience!

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile 8 месяцев назад

    Re the Tonemaster, 44.1kHz is the sample rate for A/D conversion, which I believe is perfectly acceptable. That does not necessarily affect the distorted tones’ out of band accuracy. Distortion tones are routinely 2x or 4x or even higher oversampled. As new as the Tonemaster is, I feel safe assuming oversampling is used widely.

  • @rubenmedina5050
    @rubenmedina5050 Год назад +1

    Great review Leo, thank you

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!!

  • @rockkstah2550
    @rockkstah2550 2 месяца назад +1

    I have them both and have gig with both, both are easy to use and they all sound great, feel etc… you cannot go wrong with either one. It’s why I bought them both and will NEVER get rid of them cause every update means it gets better and better.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  2 месяца назад +1

      Thank you for sharing your experience with these units!!

  • @JuanGabriel-e6v
    @JuanGabriel-e6v Год назад +1

    Thanks Leo!! Great comparation, the cuad cortex for me sounds a lot better

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, you are welcome and I'm happy that you like the video!
      Thank you also for sharing your findings!

  • @marvinuniputty3848
    @marvinuniputty3848 Год назад +1

    Excellent as always, Leo! Just curious, are there any Dumble model inside the Tone Master Pro?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
      So far no Dumble model is available.
      Thank you!

  • @DrGregWeisswasserND
    @DrGregWeisswasserND Год назад

    Excellent comparison video Leo. You do these better than anyone on RUclips. @majikband loves Leo.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you sooo much for such amazing compliments!!! Really super appreciated!!!

  • @metallion0738
    @metallion0738 4 месяца назад +1

    Both sound good, but the Fender Tone Master sounds a little warmer ant to my ears better than the Quad Cortex.
    Great Review as usual Leo.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 месяца назад

      Thank you for sharing and I'm really happy that you like the video!!

  • @Yannleon_video
    @Yannleon_video Год назад +1

    Best comparaison so far. I think QC sounds best. But... real amps still at 1st position for me.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
      Thank you also for sharing your findings!!!

  • @GRAFHC
    @GRAFHC Год назад +1

    Excellent video... to my ears the QC still remains the current "tone master", but the Fender unit is good and looks like fun to play through.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you both for the compliment and for sharing your opinion!!!

    • @SirPraiseSun
      @SirPraiseSun Год назад +1

      agreed the amps seem more accurate and dynamic sounding also 27 amp models for a 1700 dollar pedal is a rip off hope they add 20 more at least

    • @bryannicholson7111
      @bryannicholson7111 Год назад

      @@SirPraiseSundidn’t the QC initially launch with 20 some?

  • @henrikdahlberg878
    @henrikdahlberg878 4 месяца назад +1

    Are you planning to re-visit this comparison now that TMP has a few updates under its belt, and perhaps you have worked with it more?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 месяца назад +1

      Hi, I will thing about it...these videos require a lot of work and re-doing something I have already done is not so "attractive"....but I will think about it. Thank you for your suggestion!

  • @ZonneryX
    @ZonneryX Год назад +2

    Cortex received a PC app update today and now it is become much more usable as "rack device"

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Yes, I do agree....I would just add that I think that the control app it is still in beta...

  • @ithebastardking2800
    @ithebastardking2800 Год назад +2

    Leo, a superb video as always!
    I would like to see the tonex in one of the fx loops and what your findings are on the latency.
    Thanks!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you sooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
      Interesting point about the ToneX in the loop...therefore adding profiling capabilities to the machine....thank you!

    • @ithebastardking2800
      @ithebastardking2800 Год назад +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr looking forward to a new high quality video Leo😉🤓

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you!

  • @kuntoaji4674
    @kuntoaji4674 Год назад +3

    Thanks for the info! For the latency, BOSS is still The KING

  • @dylanhendley5003
    @dylanhendley5003 8 месяцев назад

    QC profile captures feature goes further than even just capturing your own amps, being able to download other people's captures for amps you don't own is fantastic. Add to that Neural recently adding support for their archetype plugins running from the QC, and it just shot to top spot for me, even over the AXE FX. The number of bands and content creators I've seen using the QC live is also pretty staggering, It's either QC or AXE FX3 on stage and at this point I think I see an equal number of both in people's racks

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you for sharing your experience and your opinions!

  • @phyloo14revers40
    @phyloo14revers40 Год назад +1

    Great job AND great playing, like always !... and that wonderful accent...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you soooo much, I'm really happy that you like the video... and the accent!!! 😀

  • @enricofugazzi5206
    @enricofugazzi5206 Год назад +4

    Ciao Leo, the possibility to create profiles is relevant for people who have the amps and cabs. The only amp I could profile is my Blackstar fly 3 or the Roland AC Mobile. Most of us are the so called "Bedroom guitarists". We don´t own a plexi or a soldano or a deluxe reverb, not we do have the space to have one of those beasts at home. I live in a flat in a condo where if I raise the volume of the TV I have my neighbour banging on the door. Not to mention that 1 of those amps cost like the Quad Cortex or the Tone Master. I wonder if you would run a survey how many subscribers of your channel are like me. A friend of mine who runs a music shop told me that 80% of his customers are "bedroom guitarists". They play at home for themself and they don´t have a band or perform live.

    • @schumannzohan
      @schumannzohan Год назад +1

      Man, I completely agree with that. I've been playing the guitar for 14 years. At one point, I owned a Fender Twin Reverb, but I eventually sold it. Living in NY, it's challenging to keep giant amps and cabs, and it's not just about the money - it's also about the limited space we have here. That's why I've always relied on modelers. So, I can't really say how a real amp sounds or feels. I listen to the music and then tweak the sound to get it as close to the original song as possible. For those of us who gig frequently and cover songs a lot, having a unit that sounds great and is easy to use on stage is crucial.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +4

      Hi, Enrico, thank you for sharing! Let me add, that even if you don't have amps to profile, you can take advantage of the profiling feature of a machine. In fact, many professionals make profiles of their amps, and you can find very good profiles, even of boutique amps, at a small price...I think many "barroom guitarist" take advantage of this feature...for instance available in the ToneX or for the Kemper....If you take a look at NAM, you can notice that it has now a very big library of very good sounding profiles...and many of them are totally free. This is thanks to the profiling option.
      Thank you...interesting discussion.

    • @bryannicholson7111
      @bryannicholson7111 Год назад

      @@LeoGibsonGtrI was about to say that… I think the “external” application of profiling, is even more valuable than just capturing your own tone - especially for bedroom guitarists. It gives you access to amps you might only dream about playing for either nothing, or a small price

  • @martinopinto6323
    @martinopinto6323 Год назад +1

    That more sound section was very helpful! I think the Tonemaster has the same models of the 300 euros fender digital amp, very dark and flat. If you mess up the plexi model, then it's red flag

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Hi, thank you for sharing your findings!!!

  • @kikiphallin
    @kikiphallin Год назад +5

    Not a fan of the predefined paths on the fender tone master, honestly that's a deal breaker for me, especially at that price, I love how creative I can get even in my "limited" hx stomp (and believe me, I have).
    On a side note, I love your comparison videos man, so much detail, and also, I love how you use the same IR for everything, effectively comparing the amps/profiles in completely neutral ground. Keep this going!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much, I'm really super happy that you appreciate the video!
      I do agree with you....I also prefer total freedom in creation patches, not been limited by predefined paths....

  • @SerkanBerksoy
    @SerkanBerksoy Год назад +1

    Hi Leo, I was waiting for your thoughts on Fender unit. I currently have Kemper Stage and Hx Stomp XL + Tonex. I use kemper for only recording because I've heard it has a lot of switch problems if you use heavily. For band practice and stage do you think Fender or Quad Cortex would be a better / easier solution than Stomp+Tonex? Should I upgrade? I heard both of them are 3+ ms latency. I like the drives on stomp and amps on Tonex. For other effects nobody compares delays or reverbs of these units...

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +2

      Hi, Stomp and ToneX are a great couple. With TMP or with the QC you are gonna have an all in one unit...therefore somehow you are simplifying. On the other hand you are gonna drop a lot of money...so I'm not completely sure it is worth to spend all those money...

  • @kookos276
    @kookos276 Год назад +1

    I prefer the smaller size of the QC. It’s light weight and fits in my gig bag.
    I also like that the QC has two XLR inputs. I play acoustic and I use an acoustic preamp (Fire-Eye Red-Eye) with the QC. The preamp can be powered up by using phantom power from the QC. My vocal microphone is attached to the other XLR input on the QC. So for this use case (acoustic + vocal) I really appreciate having two XLR inputs.
    With electric guitar I’ve found that Amalgam captures work well for me. I.e. I like captures in the QC.
    I play bass as well so the bass amps are useful for me in the QC.
    What I miss in the QC is the desktop editor, longer IRs, USB-C and plugins.
    I’d like to use the QC as a simple mixer as well. With the current UI this is quite difficult. If I understood correctly Fender has addressed this?
    The scribble strips seem really nice!
    I can’t wait to see how the Tone Master Pro will evolve in the future. The hardware seems promising and I would assume Fender has good resources to develop the software.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you for sharing your experience! Good points about the double XLR inputs...I do agree with you
      Thanks!

  • @Fernando-rb1cb
    @Fernando-rb1cb Год назад +2

    Great video. Tone Master Pro vs. Fractal FM3?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +2

      Thank you soooo much! Yes, that's something I would like to do....

  • @gerinsindanight
    @gerinsindanight Год назад +1

    Thanks Leo! Always super professional videos! I have a Kemper with power amp and the cabinet, and I am really happy! Do you thing QC with power amb and a cabinet is better?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Hi, thank you so much for such nice words!!!
      If you are happy with your device, I would not change.
      Nonetheless, I have done a comparison video between the two units, that you may want to check out: ruclips.net/video/kfTiZIfkOZs/видео.html
      Thank you!

    • @gerinsindanight
      @gerinsindanight Год назад

      @@LeoGibsonGtr you are the beast! Gracie!

  • @algorithm007ify
    @algorithm007ify Год назад +5

    I preferred the Fender Tonemaster pro sounds....interestingly. I felt that it was definitely closer to the real Fender amp. You are right about the QC being closer for the Plexi, however.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Ok, thank you for sharing!

    • @bryannicholson7111
      @bryannicholson7111 Год назад +1

      Agreed - especially as someone who personally prefers cleaner sounds.. not a huge fan of heavy distortion personally. I do admittedly like the option for playing some 80s/90s songs I grew up with.. but generally, for playing around on my own, I like clean with the ability to push to the edge of break up… that might tip me towards TMP. I need to dig into some more clean comparison vids. I’d like to buy one of these soon.

  • @luxintenebris6614
    @luxintenebris6614 Год назад +1

    Best channel and all the information others don't tell. May I ask, which guitar pick you are using? Thanks

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, I'm using the stock pick up of the two Suhr models I'm playing in this video...the V60LP in my classic antique (which I love) and the Suhr SSH+ in the Modern.
      Thank you!

  • @Rummy73
    @Rummy73 Год назад +1

    Leo, I compared them It seemed like the QC foot switches were closer together than the TMP. As such, I was not confident about using the QC with a band. I think they both sounded great. Funny enough, I preferred the TMP Plexi sound. I was testing with 60s Les Paul. The Fender nailed the Jimmy Page tones. You are right, the QC profiling is a great feature. Do you think it is possible for Fender to add it? Thank you very much for the helpful videos.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome and I'm happy that you find the video useful!
      Yes, the profiling procedure could be added, as all the I / O needed is included (for instance the XLR input)...We just need Fender implements the software...they could even take NAM and put it inside the unit...

  • @Jcp1965
    @Jcp1965 Год назад +1

    Ottimo Leo, Salutti a tutti.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Grazie mille ed un caro saluto anche a te!!!

  • @beku73
    @beku73 Год назад +1

    Thank you Leo for this comparison. I own Pod Go which is ok. I jut play for fun and sometimes play in gigs. Do you think that upgrading to Quad cortex it will be big step ? Thanks again

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +2

      Hi, you are welcome!!!!
      The POD GO is a nice machine...compared to the QC has some limitation, like the possibility to make and load profiles, or the more complex signal chain in the QC. If these things are important for you, I would say that it is worth upgrading. Otherwise, with the saved money you can by a better FRFR system, or other gear you may be wanting.

    • @beku73
      @beku73 Год назад +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr thank you very much

  • @johnvingren1383
    @johnvingren1383 4 месяца назад

    Obrigado pelo vídeo, bastante informativo e intuitivo, futuramente comprarei a minha Quad Cortex. Deus continue abençoando sua vida

  • @abehaddad
    @abehaddad Год назад +1

    Agree 💯 on your 2c comments I think the QC is still king

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Hi, thank you so much for sharing !!!

  • @franknguitars7671
    @franknguitars7671 Год назад +2

    My QC is save :-) great video, as always

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you sooo much!!!

    • @franknguitars7671
      @franknguitars7671 Год назад +1

      @@LeoGibsonGtr your most welcome! Thank you for the great content - musical taste and technical mastery meet with a scientific mind in your videos - quite unique!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      WOW, thank you for such amazing compliments that really make me happy and push me forward to make more and better!

  • @nv8505
    @nv8505 Год назад +1

    AWESOME VID, amazing playing and comparison. That's funny hearing a Marshall amp sim on a FENDER modeler. 🤣

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
      Yes....it's funny...but Fender needs to improve their Marshall models...

  • @petevan
    @petevan Год назад +3

    Fender has got the UI right as far as I’m concerned, I want this pedal in front of this amp and adjust them easily, not be a technician and loose my inspiration before I start to play

  • @4fun5000
    @4fun5000 Год назад +1

    Great review dude! Thanks. So my Quad Cortex is not outdated… 😅

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад +1

      You are welcome and I'm really happy that you like the video!!!
      Thanks to FW upgrade the QC platform is still nice ... 😀

  • @metallihorsemen
    @metallihorsemen Год назад +1

    Leo, amazing work as always. Curious: which are your top 2 modelers at this moment? In terms of feel and sound? Thanks in advance!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
      Well, I prefer not to say what I'm using outside videos....as it would be a sort of black and white opinion out of the blue and without a context, that would maybe influence someone in the wrong direction...
      Thank you for your patience

  • @andiciao
    @andiciao Год назад

    Ciao Leo, quello che hai spiegato lo condivido pienamente , anche io ho fatto un test di comparazione tra le due macchine, ma ...personalmente preferisco Quad cortex !!!

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Grazie mille! Sono contento che abbiamo ottenuto gli stessi risultati!

  • @artysanmobile
    @artysanmobile 8 месяцев назад

    I’m sure you noticed the very clumsy gating after staccato playing. What I find baffling is the virtually identical clumsy gating for both units. Is there a reason for this odd behavior? The gating noise was very loud for each, as in deal-breaking loud. I must be missing something.

  • @AA-ih6kt
    @AA-ih6kt Год назад +1

    GREAT....tonemaster pro vs fractal fm9?

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much!! Yes, that's a video I would like to do! I need time...😀

    • @AA-ih6kt
      @AA-ih6kt Год назад

      understood..thank you for all your videos:they are all wonderful@@LeoGibsonGtr

  • @SoyAlberto127
    @SoyAlberto127 Год назад +2

    Great review and great music

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you sooo much...when you like my music...I'm super happy!!!

  • @LouCondon-j1v
    @LouCondon-j1v 4 месяца назад

    I would love to see the Quad cortex vs the Fractal Axe III unit.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  4 месяца назад

      Thank you for your suggestion!

  • @christiangoizet3441
    @christiangoizet3441 Год назад +1

    Thank you from France !!!
    Is there a fan In the neural quad dsp and the Fender master pro ?
    If yes, is the fan noisy In a very quiet home studio?
    Chris
    (I had a fractal ax2 with a very boring noisy fan that i sold for this reason, i play with overloud th-u on my very quiet MacBook Pro M2 and want to buy a new pedalboard to play In my homestudio and later for some shows)

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Hi, I'm not sure...but as far as I know there should be a fan in the QC ... that I have never heard spinning .... actually
      I don't know it there is a fan inside the TMP...if someone knows, please drop here a message...

    • @christiangoizet3441
      @christiangoizet3441 Год назад

      Thank you for your fast answer

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      You are welcome!

  • @SirPraiseSun
    @SirPraiseSun Год назад +1

    yes! we get Leo the review!

  • @TrevorGevers
    @TrevorGevers 8 месяцев назад

    I have wanted the quad cortex for a long time they truly sound great, but the tone master pro sounds great as well, I don't need SO many options when it comes to amps, I also don't have any amps worth profiling ;) the hardest thing for me when using any modellers is knowing which amp I am currently using & effects. I think the tone master pro does the best job in visually displaying the effects & current amp. It seems to make setting up a rig & editing by far the easiest.

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  8 месяцев назад +1

      Hi, thank you for sharing your experience and your findings!

  • @Civic.
    @Civic. Год назад

    I can't say that I'm interested in the Quad Cortex but my main concern with the Tonemaster are it's limits.
    The pedal FX limitations are my main concern like not being able to select a delay at all after selecting certain reverb pedals. I mean cheaper units might only let you assign one of each type but at least you can always select any within a type with any from another type.
    The amp models missing are surprising (like no JTM...WTF) but not a concern for me as what it has already has me covered. I typically end up exclusively using only 2-3 amps in any modeller and I think having a Jubilee and a Bassman and a Vox and a Plexi and a JCM800 and a 5150 and a Dual Rec is more than enough for me.
    But because I would most likely just use a few amp models and want to add effects, that's why the limits are a concern and not really knowing what those limits are before I hand over so much money is a worry.

  • @Pavel_Franta
    @Pavel_Franta Год назад +1

    perfect review.
    Btw where are you from? According to accent i quess Norway or Italia :D

    • @LeoGibsonGtr
      @LeoGibsonGtr  Год назад

      Thank you so much, I'm really happy that you like the video!
      Yes, I'm from Italy...near Venice...