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Let's not forget the use of eminent domain to destroy our neighborhoods as well.
Lol this comment was when FD was saying like 100%, I shoulda known he would get to it.
Redling, Jim Crow, Gentrification etc
Facts
black communities are not being destroyed by whites today
their being destroyed by blacks
What destroys the neighborhoods today?
Being a Gen X black man living in the south and working in corporate America, let me tell ya, no amount of "respectability politics" will ever make them respect you.
what if i start saying ask instead of aks will they respect me then? LOL
Why would they if I were one of them I’ll just assume you only got your position from affirmative action.
@@mcfly3374black people don’t benefit from affirmative action the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action is white women and then by default white men
Then leave and get another job instead of whining
Thank you. I'm a Gen Xer too and I agree.
I grew up in a upper middle class, conservative voting, Black church family in Mississippi, I’m the black sheep.
I went to public school, my neighborhood was the homeowner side, but kids in the project home were bussed to our school. Those kids were teased by us for having dingy clothes, addict parents and so forth. In response, they cliqued up and started kicking our asses on the playground and after school even if it meant suspensions and so forth, talk about rising up against the bourgeois 💋👌🏽
This was the Clinton era back when Black ppl in higher class brackets loved his crime bill and saxophone solos 🙄😒. We see how that’s aged, my family as in the Gen X and Boomer elders have gotten all the more conservative while my generation and our younger cousins have become more radical
The bootstrap, “just keep your head down” rhetoric we grew up on didn’t serve us in this day and age, so we the young folks are not hearing it anymore. It causes strife in family functions all the time from talks about religion, sexuality, the Black economy and so forth
But I never saw my mom or dad challenge their elders so I’m glad to see us calling stuff out and setting new standards for our communities going forward
That is so bizarre to hear "Boomer" blacks encouraging bootstraps or keeping your head down.
They are the generation that saw their elders NOT keeping their heads down and won fantastic progress. The were bruised, bloodied, and even some killed, but they did not break.
Very sad, keep up the fight.
@@jcspoon573 truth is stranger than fiction. The Black church has the reputation of being politically Democrat due to it being so important in the Civil Rights movement, but the fact is it is as radical as necessary to keep a seat at the table of White patriarchy and most leftist ideology and philosophy is against their Christian values
Which is why most of our elders of Boomer age seem to be much more conservative than they probably were in the late 60s and 70s.
Also it’s important to note they are the last generation to be home owning retirees without massive personal and student loan debts, so they would much rather treat millenials like whiny failures than to say “shit I’m glad I’m not in my 30s today…” it’s a dissonance they can die peacefully in
Yeah my dad is definitely like that. He talks all day about things suck but when I asked him "well why don't you connect with people who feel the same way as you and effect some real change instead of just complaining about it?" He went on about how he didn't want to rock the boat, but let his KFC order end up missing a piece he wants to have a crusade to get a worker fired.
I'm a Gen Xer and I don't think like other Gen Xers. In fact, I'm more radical, if not anarchic. I will keep on fighting until I can not anymore... Just saying...
@@darkhour616 Keep the fight going💯
I feel like Candace Owens and Thomas Sowell are peak "if it didn't happen to me, then it didn't happen"
That's called seeing the World through "Rose Colored Glasses" and living in a bubble.
WELL SAID!
Im commenting months later, but Candace Owens literally sued her school district with the help of the NAACP on the grounds that she was being discriminated against due to her race. She's a lost cause.
Or stop the victimhood.
@@MisterHeroman why would someone choose to be a victim
The wry smile on Candace Owens face annoys me beyond explanation. It's like she let out the worst fart imaginable and that's her reaction when she notices you smelling it. Thank you so much btw, black conservatives infuriate me.
Candace Owens does not believe man walked on the moon. She has no credibility at all.
It bothers me that she dresses like a haunted Victorian doll.
Cry more
I agree and for me it’s because the smile says or at least implies: this is all just a grift/game to me. I’m going to spread lies and hate and make the world a worse place and it’s not even because I believe in anything.
The complete lack of conviction and consequences
Outstanding arguments against her positions here folks. Srsly. Read what y’all just wrote.
I love how they call anti-black terrorism "race riots."
That's like calling pogroms "religious tensions."
it’s wild that they call actual black terrorism peaceful rioting
Faxxx
@@EliTheMac who says that?? LA riots were called violent riots.
I'm from Mexico and didn't know this. Caught me off guard
And they scared to call that shit for white people, WTF is this shit.
Thomas Sowell is the unwanted gift that keeps on giving.
Because now every white conservative I debate links to a Thomas owl video like "See! A black person said it! What I'm saying is not problematic because a black person said it!"
Yep and if you point out that bullshit they will call you racist for dictating what black people "ought to believe"
It’s so transparent. They wanna believe some ignorant shit and take the first opportunity to blackwash it
They think one black person is a spokesman for our entire group and I believe that sort of thinking stems from racist thought
The trouble is it works cos I’m not reading one of Sowell’s 40+ semi-fictional books just to win a twitter argument.
What do have against literate, intellugent blacks?
Thomas Sowell is like a sort of martyr to white folks who swear they aren’t racist but are the first to downplay conversations on race & racism. Same thing with Morgan Freeman they use the both of them as a “gotcha!” In conversations about race. I remember talking about why Black Americans like any race celebrates the positives our people do & white folks came in the comments basically saying it was unreasonable & unnecessary to be doing that when we are in a “better time.”
IQ and biology.
End of discussion.
It is that very mindset, that grievance that allows any to be led. There are so many more. Again, what is your answer? What is the end game?
I have watched this carry on for decades, used as a tool, wore down year after year. Yet who has gained? Who has been in charge over 85% of the time? It is calamity after calamity. Just like any tool that gets used, it finally runs it's course. As you see now. It is always best to look into things than to look at them. Sage advice........If you are going to be wrong, be wrong your way, not someone else's.
ps...... many more of that educated generation, both men and women felt the exact same way. Odd that they had that understanding. Maybe you should start asking why. Why is it that they express a different real life experience than what others' later in life portray?
This title describes me exactly grew up very familiar with black conservatives my patience is weary. I grew up in the Midwest and studied political science so Thomas sowell was brought up a lot in discussions when i pointed out that he proposed that brown v board should be overturned and that alone should make him not be taken seriously they would look at me wide eyed. Thomas sowell literally said that segregation is not inherently unequal in his reasoning and supported redlining & continued to make a lot of money at the Hoover institute at Stanford a conservative think tank why is he taken seriously when those positions even mainline conservatives do not support especially the segregation take.
Exactly, nothing good had come from the Hoover institute… I bet you that a few coups in developing countries were planned there hehehehe
you'd be surprised that a lot of mainline conservatives support segregation.
@@lemiphil2388 :0 what? What is their justification?
@@danielromerosol4158 just separation of the races. This is also aided by the fact that a lot of black people believe segregation was just about different schools, toilets and water fountains which isn't so. There's this episode of Neal Brennans podcast where he talks with Chris Rock about segregation and Chris explains how a matriarch in his family couldn't go to the dentist so she had to go to the vet to get her tooth removed.
I disagree. Brown v board has had some benefits, however it has done a lot of harm.
W.E.B Dubois was against it for good reasons, for one he said (I’m paraphrasing) having black Children in white schools would condition us to see ourselves separate and apart from Africa and being African.
Derrick bell was also against it. He said (im paraphrasing) the problem with separate but equal wasn’t the separate part it was the EQUAL PART!
I am a sociologist that tries to engage people when I really shouldn't and you would not believe how often Sowell is the ace in their back pocket and think it's a finishing move to bring him up.
It’s hysterical 😂
Well, he has critiqued marxism. So, what part of his critique do you disagree with?
Also, Asians outperform whites on everything in the US, so how is the US racist against non-whites?
I actually learned about him hours ago for The same reason, it's like their current super move to end all discusion
@@metatron4890Found the white boi
They probably think that because it's a black man saying the stuff they believe and want to say, it gives it more weight.
"We not gonna LLC ourselves to liberation" JESUS if that ain't a bar
because we already liberated.... we just broke. what you think you going to revolt your way to riches?
@@relly793 They won't counter that talking point.
@@relly793 sitting around bitching is the way to liberation!!!!!!!! why actually take control of your life when you can bitch and moan behind a phone/computer screen and beg "people in power" to make your life better
@@relly793 nah white people who just got out of college who's white parents give them the amount of money they need to rent an apartment in New York are broke, the black people that they moved out because this society doesn't give a fuck about you if you aren't rich are poor
@@relly793 also revolting our way to riches is not how you solve this problem
That last part about President Obama is a point that I use routinely. President Obama was Harvard-educated, taught constitutional law, was a local politician, then a senator, and a president. His only possible Ls being a tan suit, and being an occasional smoker. They still had nothing but bad things to say about him.
Nah Obama was a self Described 80s style moderate Republican. His policies also maintained the status quo and led to a spoiled billionaire crook to grift his way in right afterwards.
Because he caused more division than bring us together, and his foreign policy was trash, you dont bow when your president of the USA to a Saudi King.
You're talking about the President who approved drone strikes that targeted women and children?
The President who destabilized Syria and Libya?
The President who sent arms to rebel groups that eventually came to be ISIL and other fundamentalist terror groups?
The President who backtracked on his position in Guatanamo Bay, and allowed for the torture of suspected (still innocent before the law) criminals?
The President who continued the Bush administration policies by bailing out large banks and the auto industry, which solidified corporatism between big government and big business?
The President who violated the Constitution on numerous occasions, especially when signing Executive Orders while claiming that he has a "pen and a phone" while subverting the will of Congress?
The President who sent troops to combat zones without congressional approval, and even signed a document that legalized cluster bombs, which were outlawed by the Geneva Convention due to their perpetuity to commit war crimes?
The President who contributed to the worst race relations since the 1960s, and spearheaded the beginning of diversity trainings that are blatantly bigoted, racist, and antisemitic?
The President who contributed to the downfall of the medical care industry with his disastrous policy of the ACA?
I could go on and on... The tan suit is the least of my worries, trust me. I don't like war criminals.
@@thegoldenarm6422 Save for your last two points which are comical all the other things you stated are the American government doing American government things. He wasn't criticized by the American machine for those things because they were complicit in them. You can accuse Obama of being establishment. You can accuse him of being a typical cog in the American machine. But then again you'd have to accuse all American presidents in modern history of being the same in regard to behaviors like what you're stating above. You alluded to this by saying things like, "who continued the Bush administration policies."
>His only possible Ls being a tan suit, and being an occasional smoker
Yeah, those drone strikes and "yeah we tortured some folks" shit was just a Trump propaganda, lmao /s
How to spot a fucking neoliberal
Spitting facts dude. I see the same thing happening here in New Zealand to a lesser extent, where people say us Māori just rely on the government for benefits and need to "help orselves" for once.
I come from intergenerational trauma where my Koro (grandads) were beaten at school for speaking their language. One of them now doesn't know it, they literally beat it out of him.
It takes GENERATIONS to fix some shit.
Wow. Marginalized people worldwide share so many of the same struggles. Power and peace to your people 🙌🏽
Respect to the Māori, very sorry to hear that.
Pākeha from NZ here, the echo of the same bullshit is strong in this country. They never taught us white kids about the land wars back in school. I hope we can find a way through.
@@Jo3M they never taught Māori kids either. We learnt about Samuel Marsden and Cook even at a school with a big Māori roll. I learnt about all that when I worked in the Treaty space.
@@reb3578 that's sad how that indigenous knowledge was suppressed amongst Māori. I hope the kids today get taught. The history of the land we are on is so much more important than so much of what we learn. Respect to you and your ancestors for the colonialism that's been endured
It's incredible how many folks out there say that Thomas Sowell is such an "incredible genius" when all he does is repeat middle of the road Fox News and PragerU talking points
He’s astroturfed tbh
He's right
They repeat his talking points
@@tyronechillifoot5573 afroturfd
@@snarfbomber298 ☑️Most of his books are older than PragerU and some are older than Fox News. This channel is an echo chamber.
The problem with conservatism is that it is a simple story that clearly has appeal. But its not about the story they tell, its about the parts they leave out.
Exactly as always tbh I cannot stand most of them tbh I cannot relate in their own world view as a whole
The problem with wokeness is that it is a simple story that clearly has appeal. But its not about the story they tell, its about the parts they leave out.
Yeah, the way I saw Obama (The Black Mr. Perfect, yes I referenced some wrestling) get drug through the mud worse than any modern politician, as much as he "bootstrapped" and "respectability politicked" his way to that position and went forth with "civility", showed me that shit don't work. I seem to be one of the only ones in my family (mostly military and all kinds of conservative Christian denominations) who paid attention to that message that was sent crystal clear, because just about everybody I know in my family still believes in that bootstrap nonsense. Having a good work ethic is one thing, but having to work so hard to be seen as a human being, to still have that taken away from you, and dangled in front of you like you never 'earned it' and have to 'get out and work for it' again? Nah.
Obama got dragged through the mud more than Trump ? We must live in a different world.
That worked a little bit after the CRM then they backpedaled. Pretty sure some books and articles were written about it.
@@andreabrown4541 CRM?
I remember tanehisi coates describing segregation like this..imagine paying taxes to be treated like a non citizen..
As Jay z said light n word dark n word rich n word poor n word still n word...
I think your bias is blinding you. Consider how much Trump got attacked in the media. Each politician gets attacked by the opposing side. Conservative media attack liberal politicians, and liberal media attack conservative politicians. That the game… it’s silly to say bootstrapping doesn’t work because the opposing side won’t love you. White or black you will never be loved by everyone.
In fact the way you know bootstrapping works is because Obama became President.
The idea that 'tough love' is anything but justified abuse really messes with me, because that's what my grandparents operated on. And it's shown over and over again in all kinds of media and, since it's in media, it gets sanitized and turned by the writers into this effective way to 'reach' people who're having problems instead of actually reaching out and addressing their problems. It's nothing but a way for people to take their frustrations out on other people while pretending that it's for the other person's benefit, but so many people are tricked into doing it and at that point you're sunk cost into defending it; either it works and you're doing something good or it doesn't work and you've just been a huge asshole, and no one wants to think of themselves as a huge asshole.
I remember my best friend turning to hard drugs and ditching class because of his correction officer Grandpa raised him on "tuff love". Now I know why boomers are so fucked in the head.
i almost never see this addressed plainly, thank u
Tried to explain how my father was abusive to me at times to him. All I really wanted was an apology or even an acknowledgement. Dude goes off on me about how much he's done for me and says that it was tuff love and the world is hard etc. I realize that I'm never gonna get closure on that.
@@WithoutFear804 My heart goes out to you. That whole "the world is hard/cruel so I gotta toughen you up" is a cop out imo. There's a difference between "I'm gonna show you you how to navigate through a world that is unkind" and whatever they think tough love is. Like cool, beating me tells me the world is cruel, but is that the only lesson? If it is, you just like the power you get picking on someone powerless.
Your post immediately made me think of "Lean On Me", which is streaming on a lot of platforms rn... that principle, whom Morgan Freeman portrayed, was paid by extremist right-wing zealots to go around and give speeches to other zealots about "tough love" and "pulling yourself up by the bootstraps". It's a cycle of abuse.
Edit: left this comment before FD actually brought up the film, and Joe Clark.
- And he's right, that movie was crammed down our throats soooo much back in the day, no matter your color. I'm the same age as FD.
I can tell you that whenever I hear ‘black-on-black’ crime I think about a white friend of mine who grew up in a poor white neighborhood in southern Virginia saying ‘why are we robbing each other?’ The statement was about people breaking into each others cars, when his stereo got jacked, but there were worse things happening in that neighborhood and it was ‘white-on-white’. Another white friend grew up in the infamous South Boston projects where the police raided all the time and he saw his teen neighbors or their dads taken away. He was one of the few who got out due to scholarships to college. I also have a black friend who grew up in Baltimore and he was a smart kid who got put into a prep school for high school and also got scholarships for college. I know things are worse when you are black due to systemic racism. Being poor and black is worse than being poor and white in America. I want this country to focus on the issues of racism and poverty. I want politicians and the media to stop focusing on poor = black because it sets up the expectation that these two are intertwined and can’t be fixed because one is immutable in our culture and the other could be fixed, but we choose not too. I really appreciate this video because I lived in Atlanta for 5 years and did not understand the history behind why it is different. I did see a lot of poverty in Atlanta.
Yeah, pretty sure black folk get enough "tough" love. Please way more "soft" love.
Soft love with services run by and for people living in their communities.
@@JohnSmith-ft4gc so segregation?
@@waynewayne8419 You don’t know what segregation is.
@@diggs825 he described it lol
@@waynewayne8419 according to you, anything other than an occupying army, must be segregation. Please, tell us MORE! ;)
To me there are two main types of black conservatives. You have black people who see racism as endemic to American and white identity, and they believe black people will not be treated equitably in America so they kind of lose hope in America. they form this black nationalist ideology because they want to help black people, and that ideology ends up being extremely conservative even as it acknowledges racism as a real issue in America. This conservatism has very little to do with the Republican Party or white conservatives.
The other black conservatives are aligned with white conservatives, and spout the same kind of anti black rhetoric as the gop, that casts black people as collectively racially dysfunctional. Sowell, I believe is in the latter camp. I read part of one of his books, and his central theme was that the great migration was bad because southern black people had southern hillbilly culture which caused all the social problems in American cities.
You made some good points
you’re biased
@@search4omniscience
Why would I be biased against black conservatives?
@@search4omniscience Are you talking about yourself? 😂🤣
@@tm7517 Because he's a triggered racist who got triggered by your comment.
As a Turkish-Kurdish minority living in the UK, I have always found comfort in post-colonial and black and Asian diaspora writing. I was so shocked to discover people like Thomas Sowell who do nothing but discredit all this work which has been done to decode oppression and internalised neo-liberal values by various thinkers throughout the 20th century.
Not a fan of Sowell praising Armenians? 😅
Every population's got a representative member of these types of grifters
Sowell exposes the work as leftist propaganda.
@@lilmoe4364 grifter hahahahahaha. Leftist are grifters
@@lilmoe4364 He's not a grifter though.
You talking about my black, Texan, southern Baptist family right now.
The "pulling yourself by the boostraps" thing reminded me a little of what happened to Will Smith. Decades of an extremely successful career and a reputation of being charismatic and nice... all undone by a single moment of anger (at an insult thrown at his wife, mind you). Recently I saw some articles ranking him as the "most hated celebrity" of the year. Never mind Ezra Miller being an actual fugitive, or Arnie Hammer outing himself as having a friggin' cannibal fetish, or Chris Pratt being part of an anti-LGBTQ church.
Chris Pratt isn’t part of a anti lgbt church bozo.
Ofc Will smith will jeopardize his career but committing physical assault, your just commuting a whataboutism. He got off mad easy for it too
You hit it on the head!! What's crazy, is Will has preached a similar message of bootstrapping, as well as the respectability thing, but look how that turned out for him? At some point, people have to realize these folks won't like us no matter what we do. When you have a slight moment of weakness, they show their true nature. No sympathy at all.
All churches should be anti-LGBT given it’s directly against it in the text. Show them love as anyone else, but you don’t endorse it.
@@xaviercopeland2789 I'm sry but do uk the og text? LGBT isn't mentioned once in the Bible.
Historical context is important,and also being able to actually know the words.
Leviticus 18:22 the word is male, which is used to talk abt young ppl. The word for a grown male is always spoken, and when it's a child they use male.
Romans is abt rituals and how Greek polytheists had sexual acts to worship a deity for a festival.
1 Corinthians is abt a Greek practice again, which is exploitative as it was wrong for a lower class individual to be the penetrator and the upper being penetrated. As well, it was usually a child with a man, teacher pupil was common.
Timothy is the same as that of 1 Corinthians.
At best it would be for Timothy and Corinthians that it is wrong to be the penetrator within a same sex relationship, if we r willing to take the straight forward translation. I however, find the history context makes this even more meaningful. It is wrong to rape, or be a pedophile even when it comes to being a male.
If u try to use Sodom and Gomorrah as examples the tanakh gives a well explained reason for their destruction and homosexuality isn't the reason: Ezekiel 16:49
@@TheCreatorNFE just think about the Tulsa riots
My problem with the whole idea of “Black conservatives” is that conservatives want to limit change as much as possible. So how can an intelligent black person in America look around at any point in their life and say we should’ve kept things the way they were back then??? So then you end up arguing with them as they attempt to gaslight you and down play the effects of systemic racism. I can appreciate black peoples urge for diversity in thought, but on politics there’s literally only one semi-safe space for us to operate.
The way that Candice Owen’s carries the torch for the Conservative party and they don’t even give her the time of day unless they need to use her in their narrative, tells you everything you need to know. That’s not to say that everything is great on the other side because it’s not. But it’s much easier to make progress with a party that will acknowledge that there’s a problem than it is with a party that thinks you’re the problem for even bringing it up!
It's this Push for swift forgiveness. "it's not black and white, it's rich and poor. They are dividing us" Those two aren't mutually exclusive, BUT you have to understand that my grandparents actively remember being called a negro, or worse. And was just discriminated for being Black, something they can't control
That was a different era though
Your grandparents. Your grandparents. Eras haven't changed since your grandparents. Like, there's this constant bullshit appeal to the past when we're having these discussions. Do YOU remember these times?
@@bulletsizednuke1100 do I remember the time my girlfriend straight up said to me. "My dad would disown me for dating a black person". And called her a negro (the racist one) lover, yes. I do.
I'm 25. Racism is not dead because it's not obvious
@@bulletsizednuke1100 still affected by them
Well then stay mad. A German apologized to me when he found out my father was a Holocaust survivor. I appreciate the sentiment, but I told him that if he wasn't there, he's nothing to apologize for. The son doesn't bear the sins of the father. The chip on the shoulder of American blacks is holding them back. They're seen as uncooperative and dangerous. Who needs that?
I remember seeing one clip of Thomas Sowell that thoroughly convinced me that this man is a clown. Pretty much Thomas Sowell was citing some "study" in which a "sociologist" found that blacks born and raised in Germany (in the 1950's I believe) had practically no discrepancy in thier socio-economic standing compaired to White Germans. The "sociologist" then went on to say that this is proof that African American culture is what is holding back American Blacks. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. So Sowell is just going to completely ignore the hundreds of years of slavery, the white terrorism in the form of lynchings and black communities burned to the ground during reconstruction (post-civil war), the decades of Jim Crow, witholding of basic civil rights etc that all worked to directly hinder the progress of Black Americans and just pretend that our situation in the U.S. was comparable to that in Germany? Hundreds of years of violence and oppression in America are inconsequential? Yea....get this clown out of my face.
WTF is wrong with this man?! US ahistorics aside, Germany didn't exist again until 1990 as it was split between the USSR and Allied Colonizers because of WWII where German White supremacists, partially inspired by US White supremacists, literally genocided "non-Aryans" such as wait for it...GERMAN BORN BLACKS! If they had won, there'd be no Black Germans and if denazification did not happen the exact same disparity would arise.
It's almost like White supremacy, it's terrorism and complicity of citizens towards it is the issue and no amount of "assimilating" to it will work as German Jews tried that just as US Blacks did and yet. That, the banality of evil and need of denazification were supposed to be a core lesson of WWII cause no simping let alone bag will protect any marginalized Conservative from a night of long knives, ugh I hate him.
*Nope.*
*What the study showed is that:*
*1) niggas aren't inherently stupid, we just force stupid ass ideas onto so-called "Black" children and complain about why they can't achieve more.*
*2) So-called "Black" 'patriarchy' ACTUALLY WORKS (majority of the time), which pisses off both the far right and far left.*
Every other race and culture has had horrible things happen to them, and they were either exterminated or they overcame their horrible past to prosper. Black folks exterminate themselves and continually complain about their past and are just stuck.
lol and how were the kids fathered by black soldiers in Germany saved by hundreds of slavery? Maybe the fact that they didn't have people like you to tell them they were oppressed by hundreds of years of slavery had something to do with it? lol and you call him the clown? That is the ultimate proof he presented you seperate children from the US black culture boom they succeed no matter what happened to their ancestors
jews went through just as much, why arent they down bad?
I had a Black principal in my middle school (who I actually think was a really big softie of a man based on most of what he did), but he did walk around school with a wooden paddle that said “Murphy’s Law” (his name was Mr. Murphy). He was brought in to a school with a large Black population that “had discipline problems.” But that idea of joking about hitting kids is all kinds of ick now but it was so ridiculously common when I was growing up thanks to movies like this and general attitudes around “discipline” from the adults raising us.
Yeah they had a paddle where I went as a kid. I think they called the blue jay. Because it was painted blue. I remember them using it. That was in the early 90s
As a white guy who got hooked on libertarianism, I read Thomas Sowell and his points seemed fine at the time. However, going back and doing more reading shows that he’s picking statistics and historical facts that he wants and ignoring huge issues that torpedo his arguments. Especially his idea that black kids learned better in segregated schools, like, yeah-one school out of a hundred had famous alumni and people with doctorates teaching kids Latin and Greek, but I grew up in the south. I went to the school that used to be the black kids school. It was broken down, dark, dingy, and underfunded/overcrowded. The new school got computers and classroom tech, while we got football uniforms and history books with the USSR still in the maps. Thomas Sowell has had a long and illustrious career, but that doesn’t mean he can’t be wrong. And frankly, history has proved him wrong on many accounts. Not all political views align with reality. It took me a long time to realize that Sowell’s didn’t as well.
Frankly a lot of economists use their profession to justify suffering in the name of profit.
@@joeblow9657 I'm studying economics in college right now, and I've unfortunately noticed this.
Was that your masters thesis, mr verbose... You must be the life of the party... At least in your mind.
@@joe5544g no, my master’s thesis was on medieval literature. And I am pretty good at parties.
@@TheLyricalCleric You got me... That's actually very cool... Very Impressive, take care.
If your plan is for everybody to suddenly change and behave how you want them to do, then you don't have a plan. You just have a want. No, systemic issues require changes to the system itself. And blaming people who have no power for their crumbling neighborhoods and infrastructure is just making excuses for those with power who failed to use it and/or didn't want to.
I don’t disagree with you bro, but it’s more complex than just changing the system. If we think Europeans to cede power and change the system for the benefit of black folks, then we don’t have a plan…..hope is not a strategy. I don’t know the answer but I believe it’s a combination of systematic changes and black accountability….revolution requires more than one mode attack.
or leaving the system. you cant fix a system designed to benefit the elites
@@TheObsidianLogic
Any mode of attack is just "hope" until combined with hard work. And I don't mean the hard work your boss asks you to do so that their boss gets a fatter paycheck at the end of the quarter. I mean the hard work of organizing communities and organizing workplaces, so that you have a base to call upon for having weight behind you when pulling at the levers of power. Not every lever will be electoral, but every lever including electoral is a necessary step towards any kind or sort of revolution. Without electoral how do we expect to broadcast a message towards greater solidarity? Not to mention, if we manage to build towards beyond a plurality of support on a platform of progress, beyond a majority of support, whether the revolution comes from within electoralism or outside of it will not matter.
But we gotta get there first. And that involves talking to people at their kitchen table, one household at a time. Whether you think they'll agree or not, that work has to be put in. Revolution isn't built on hope, it may run off of hope but it is built on top the results of work.
And if your work isn't building towards systemic changes then that isn't even a revolution that's a shuffling of chairs for another round of musical chairs.
And it is those people in power who prop up Sowell and Candace Owens to as token black conservatives to distract the masses. It is so telling that those who prop up Sowell, Owens and others would rather invest their funds to save face to justify their shortcomings instead of using their resources to improve said crumbling neighborhoods.
@@davruck1Then become part of the elite and not a marxist. People that’s too weak to survive in a capitalist society wants a socialist society, that will definitely make sure black people in America will never rise to the same or better economic power as white people in America or any where else in the world.
"I work in a private day school. When I explain my school to others, I often use the scene you described from the movie 'Lean On Me' in my analogy. Joe Clark lines up all the difficult students on the stage, points to them as the problem, and kicks them out. My school is where these students come to receive access to a free public education after. It's remarkable how much extra effort we put in to help some students graduate from high school and get into college, only to see them leave our community forever. Meanwhile, we tend to overlook the students who will stay in our community and work in maintenance, civil service jobs, nursing homes, and as mechanics and repairmen."
On the lean on me bs, any strategy for helping improve the material condition of a marginalized group of people that can be described as, "Beat the insubordination out of them" should be cast out on reflex, and the fool who brought it to you should be looked at as highly suspect, and at best be met with the follow up phrase of, "Seek help my dude."
Come ON FD!
They didn’t burn ALL the communities down!
Sometimes they drowned them and turned them into water resorts-Like Lake Lanier.
Facts
Seneca Village
Thomas Sowell is a intelligent man, buuuut is the the biggest sellout known to man.
Can’t be a sellout if one doesn’t buy in. Sucks for the constant victim
@@freakloc I don't believe in the victim complex. I have read to of his books and he does nothing but protect the American dream. In his book Black Redneck he protects Lincolns speech of supremacist beliefs. What kind Human being/ Black man speaks in favor of white supremacy. That is a sellout. If the child does not feel embrace from the village he will burn it down just to feel the warmth.
Great vid!
A lot of black conservative ideology comes from adopting American individualism as well,all my immediate family on both sides (Filipino mom/black dad) are conservative..& the "imma get mine,fuck yours" mentality is strong with them.
That's the mentality one shoudl ve
@@leviackerman-nq9vk lol you’re a Jew right?
@@caspianhall Ah, yes. The leftist "anti-racism/no discrimination/victim" person just posted. Hello.
"imma get mine,fuck yours" There it is! Just as Jesus commanded in the Golden Rule!
@@wyotriumphrider the other option "imma get yours while pretending its OURS".
I guess we shouldn't be worshipping rich people, no matter their race? Who would've thought that people disconnected from the poor wouldn't care for the poor?
stop it. Thomas sowell is a gem to anyone
@@search4omniscience No. He's a disgrace to the whole world.
@@cj3047 you can’t take the redpill
@@cj3047 Thomas sowell is educated. He speaks about culture politics and economics. So give me a example of what he said was wrong. He does extensive research before he writes anything and breaks down statistics. I'll wait
@@ChaoticOrder883 stop trolling ffs
Thomas Sowell is intellectual dishonest.
Can we all just remember that the whole point of the phrase "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" is to say that it's impossible? Kind of like the cops having just a few bad apples... spoils the bunch.
Shhh…That would mean the people that believe that, would have functioning brains.
"And so emancipation for the Negro was really freedom to hunger. It was freedom to the winds and rains of Heaven. It was freedom without food to eat or land to cultivate and therefore was freedom and famine at the same time.
And when white Americans tell the Negro to “lift himself by his own bootstraps”, they don’t oh, they don’t look over the legacy of slavery and segregation. I believe we ought to do all we can and seek to lift ourselves by our own boot straps, but it’s a cruel jest to say to a bootless man that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps.
And many Negroes by the thousands and millions have been left bootless as a result of all of these years of Oppression and as a result of a society that deliberately made his color a stigma and something worthless and degrading"
The way to social progress isn't by individual behavioural change (at least not the way most people think it would be) it's by making major (and minor too) positive societal changes
Thomas Sowel walked so Herschel Walker could run and I’m just over here an upset Black Woman that no one thought to trip these fools up.
What Sowell had to say about slavery 🤮 🤢; "Other folks were enslaved, so black folks should stop talking about it"... 🤷🏿♂️
There have been many genocides yet nobody gas lighting Jews for remembering & seeking justice for Shoa!
Whitey here. I have an example.
I'm working one day and I'm stuck in a room with an electrician I have never met before. He tells me how he does the hiring for his union. He hates affirmation action. He hates hiring PoC and has his own way of dealing with it. He tells me that he always chooses guys who passed the test, but will not make it on the job. If they seem hard working and competent, they will never get a shot. If they show up late looking like a slob, he hires them immediately.
He thought it was hilarious.
😐 Hilaaaarious. Thanks for the intel.
Reminds me of something I heard yesterday. This guy was applying to be a police officer in South Dakota. He walked out of the job interview after being asked three different questions about his willingness to racially profile indigenous drivers.
@Deen Chaser To be clear, he _said_ he walked out after repeatedly being asked to pull over drivers simply for being native Indian.
There’s so many white people that love to quote or reference him to black people when trying to have a “gotcha” or “well this fellow black person agrees with me” moment when conversing about race 🙄
I told a work buddy who was quoting him that Sowell is every conservative white dude's "black friend."
For decades they’ve been siccing him on us 😂
irrelevant
Yet not a single person here can debunk one of his claims esp one who have no solution LMAO
Yeah because left wing blacks are the authentic blacks
The best part of this video is where the guy went into depth about why Thomas Sowells actual statements and ideas are wrong… which he didn’t.
Gotta love that kind of serious engagement with someone you disagree with. Really a solid display of good faith analysis
He's a breadtuber. What were you expecting?
When I was a teacher I had professional developments that required me to watch that awful movie. Our principal made us watch it. He was black but Jesus Christ that movie is terrible. It's pure propaganda.
I don't know if it is pure propaganda. I have heard about some schools being like that in America. In that era. But not the extreme like the movie.
@@liizzset one thing Ive noticed was most of these "black" movies they push on the black community was produced, directed and written by white or Jewish men
How black people didn't question that and worshiped these clear racist undertones in these films is extremely frightening
I feel like the left need to keep pointing out that it is impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. The quote was originally created to show absurdity
The more I think of my childhood, growing up in the Projects of The Bronx, the more I think Hip Hop in the 90's was propaganda for Capitalism. If you can convince just a few of the poorest and disenfranchised that they can also be individually rich, then you won't have people demanding change for everyone because THEY TOO can be wealthy. It just makes me disgusted turning Black and Brown people into the the very system that hates them. It's like how rich does one person have to be till they turn into the Master, when do they start understanding the point of view of the Slave Owner.
What is capitalism?
The amount of companies that got their funding from slavery. They are not in the business of slavery anymore but they got a big boost from it. A huge leg up.
name em
Name those companies so that we may stop giving them business. Otherwise, you're lying through your teeth.
@@eastwaters4082 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@eastwaters4082 Know they exist do your F-N homework!
@@majorpaindiaz Put your money where your mouth is, 5 months later no names drop. If you about it, be about it.
This seems like a whole lot of justification. Like, "I made it, so if you can't, there must be something wrong with you." So many people reach a point at which they can't (or don't want to) admit that there was maybe some privelege, connections, and luck along the way.
If they tell themselves that it was owed to them for their hard work (and that anyone who works hard can "make it"), then they don't have to feel bad about injustices in the world. They don't have to worry about charity, trying to correct those injustices, or anything else. They just "got" what they were entitled.
I think basically all of the top 10%ers tell themselves lies like that. That, or they're completely lacking empathy, for whatever reason.
Edit: I think there's a bit of survivorship bias going around, too. I'll openly admit that I've FREQUENTLY fallen victim to it, as well. If I ever start going off like, "I went through that, and I'm FINE," I just need another 5 seconds to remind myself of all of my mental health problems. Hopefully before I post. But not always.
African Americans need to fix the culture first. The culture has become rap culture
@@cheikhbarro4291 Did you even watch the video?
@@Acidfunkish the other guy isn't wrong tho
Love this comment! Whenever I try to educate my white friends and/or family about generational trauma and/or systemic injustices that we have been spared because of our white privilege, this is one of the most common responses.
You hear this talking point in response to the assertion that any sort of privilege exists, as well as the implication of there being any barrier to success that can't be overcome by simply "pulling yourself up by your bootstraps."
However, when used in the context of race specifically, I feel it is being said to ease White Guilt.
It also, 9/10 times, shifts the focus from being about systemic issues or a different experience, to the individual and their personal experience... "I got bullied as a kid too for stuff too! So what? Kids are cruel!" Another common one is, "I grew up without a lot of money! I don't appreciate the narrative that all I have was handed to me because I'm white... I worked hard!"
It's odd, at least to me, that the assertion that having some form of privilege negates all their hardwork... Cause' I don't think it does. You can be white, and proud of your personal accomplishments, and proud of the barriers to success in your personal life that you overcame.... All while also acknowledging that there are certain barriers you didn't need to overcome or even worry about. For some reason though, people take the idea of "white privilege" as a personal attack. (Unless I'm presenting it wrong... Anyone reading this comment is free to weigh in. If anything about my comment implies that I am presenting it wrong, or misunderstanding the concept, do not hesitate to call me out.)
I've had to work through my own fair share of White Guilt and moments of Saviour-Based (as opposed to Ally-Based) thoughts/comments, but I still don't know how to address people who view the very idea that white privilege exists as a personal attack that they didn't work hard.
@@cheikhbarro4291 You know shit about black culture, if that’s what you think…
I remember having to bring home a permission slip to watch “Lean On Me” in school. IN SCHOOL! We were so stoked to be watching that crazy ish instead of doing class work. Wow. Never thought about it until now…😳
FUCKING THANK YOU! Thomas Sowell says shit that a black man of his age, who was supposedly apart of the movement, had to have physically SEEN be untrue
i've been wandering if people like him and Candace Owens actually believe what they say or if they're just in for the money?
hes a successful black man, and a renowned economist whos basically telling ...regardless of what you heard, its overstated. if you are unsuccessful its due to your circumstances and you can change it. wheres the lie in that?
@@relly793 @Hego's Way lol. He's renown for being a pick me.
Working to change your situation is a defacto state for most people.if that's great advice to you, you probably need all the help you can get.
Sowell will talk about reliance on government for help was the black communities greatest downfall, knowing full fucking well that laws permitting racism had to be changed and that even the self proclaimed communists like the Panthers did almost everything in house.
The government allowed if not actively participated in dismantling then. Republicans set precedent for gun bans over the black right to bear arms.
Thomas Sowell can rot for validating the idea of "black laziness" and getting paid to do so.
@@VagabondCrow bro how old are you ? a "pick me" . dont you understand thats a term broken woman use to shame a woman who believes in family values and not just going along with the crowd just because its the trend. As a man you need to grow up , ill leave it at that. as man i found that very feminine of you
Sowell acknowledge past laws had to be changed if you ever listened to him fully you would understand that. when he speaks in reference to the problem today. its in the context of the lazy culture of entitled blacks who rely on the system for help and answers. there is not ONE group of people that ANY government has boot strapped up and created a better life conditon for ... BLACK BLUE WHITE OR JEW. NONE.
the idea of black laziness is what it is. You have full cities . full resources, and the strongest economic country on earth and still blaming your downfall on of all things - skin pigment.
@@relly793 I love how they can't attack Sowell's statements and they dismiss hin calling him a "pick me" or an "uncle t*m". Literally proving what Sowell says about the culture being crabs in a bucket.
I’ve always been uncomfortable with the idea of a “Black Conservative” for me the term itself is a contradiction because the term conservative literally refers to conserving. I always think as a black person what in the current global order could you possibly want to “Conserve”?
Nice semantics
To conserve the use nonviolent protest and not use violence indiscriminately as a mean to “achieve progress,” which some individuals have very obviously “progressed too far” to remember.
In essence, do not forget Martin Luther King Jr.
Ah that's a simple explanation though. People have a natural cognitive bias towards the status quo. This is something that exists in all of us, to differing extents. So all one needs to be is comfortable enough with whatever state they're currently surviving in and a strong enough cognitive bias, and a fear of change starts to build. Extend that comfort and bias and fear towards systems and you get conservatism.
That isn't to say that there isn't an important cognitive purpose towards sticking to the status quo, gods help us if we as a society had adapted crypto as the future! But any cognitive bias when left unchecked can produce inefficient results that must then be post hoc rationalized to prevent too much cognitive dissonance.
A black person that wants to be open, free, and giving is the catalyst to how millions of people got on a boat in the first place. Why is it that marginalized communities like the Chinese or Japanese, or the Muslim and Jewish know how to bounceback and grow closer to each other when the world may be out to get them, yet Black Christians just want to continue thinkihg the world wants to hold hands?
@@eastwaters4082
I gave you an effort post on the previous one but this is just bad bait
Thomas Sowell was born into deep poverty in segregated North Carolina. He was raised by various relatives because both his dad and mom died when he was a kid. He worked his way through college and dedicated himself to understanding the world in which he lived. If you ever end up reading his books, you’ll see that he doesn’t start with preconceived conclusions and then work to manipulate facts to fit those conclusions. Instead, he scours vast amounts of data, usually covering the entire world over hundreds of years, and from there he logically integrates the given data to form conclusions. He’s not a conservative. He’s an intellectual in the true and noble sense, and it would benefit EVERYBODY to read his works.
I ended up on this video because I was trying to find an actual refutation to the conclusions put forth by Thomas Sowell. I know it’s mundane, but I thought I’d actually find refutations based on intelligible facts. All I see here are fallacious argument based on emotion. Maybe you could tackle something meaningful, like: why do black people who move here from other countries end up doing better socioeconomically than blacks who have lived here since the Transatlantic Slave Trade? Could it be that black people who have lived here longer have been subjected to hateful defeatist indoctrination that tells them it’s impossible for them to find purpose and meaning in their lives? Thomas Sowell covers such topics if you’re ever inclined to seek him out.
You gotta make like 5 more videos about Thomas Sowell. There aren't enough videos combatting his BS
Seconded. I've been waiting for a substantive breakdown of Sowell's bullshit-ass arguments for a LONG time.
Sowell is the grandfather of Candace Owens', Larry Elder's, and Jesse Lee Peterson's style.
This!!
I fourth this shit💯
Hell yeah!!!!
👍👍👍
As a Star Trek fan when I was watching Deep Space Nine, there were Bajorans that allied themselves with the Cardassians despite their fascist take over of Bajor. It reminded me of people like Sowell. There will be sellouts no matter where you go.
This! As a Trekkie this is a perfect analogy 🖖🏾🖖🏾
What episode was that?
@@treytrapani9813 the a gist of several episodes throughout the series. But if you watch the first 2 seasons you can see more of this conflict relationship.
Telling the truth is selling out lol
DS9 was the best! And your analogy is perfect !
Anytime I as a white dude try to argue with a white conservative about racism, they always name check Thomas Sowell as a black man who is in opposition to "all those phonies like Sharpton."
OMG Say it with your whole chest
all these dudes are simple minded grifters with degrees. Sewell is so surface level but sounds brilliant to simple minded folks who have never read a book
Sounds like Jordan Peterson too. Any given interview is all word-salad masked as intellectual/academic discourse. How people can take anything from their garbage is astounding to me.
You just gotta read a thesaurus and pretend to speak to peoples concerns and the public eats it up.
You have a degree?
@@waynewayne8419 I hope they don't respond to your mark ass under these comments baiting like I did 🤧
@@Social_Pugatory This doesn’t make any sense given that Sowell deliberately writes in a plain-speaking voice to reach a wide audience. Compare to purple-prosed airheads like Coates, Kendi, etc.
Christ one of my homies constantly brings up Thomas Sowell like he is jesus
Look up Thomas sowell and his take on brown v board of education and his quote that segregation was not inherently unequal also look up his take on red lining most rational people when they see what his views are on those topics they tend to be at least skeptical of him or change their mind.
@@dorcassg I literally was a conservative self hating idiot back in 2013 listening to him when I cleaned up .now that I’m better educated and changed myself I see through his bullshit so fast .he’s the dumb persons smart person .he’s a economist and not a history professor for a reason.he lacks the ability to analyze anything beyond numbers .
More black communities were destroyed by government policy such as after Black Wallstreet was rebuilt the government came with highways and freeways that cut through it and all vibrant community of blacks saw the same fate
They say that, but what they really mean is to submit and accept our roll in society as 2nd class citizens.
You do that anyway by blaming white people for your problems
@@darrylscott6648 a simple comment from a simple person. This country was built on white supremacy, but most importantly, anti blackness. The right has gone full blown white nationalists. Their banning books thats about the black experience in America. But of course racism is not a thing.
*rule
@@brianegan7141no, *role lol
Your intro music to these videos fits extra well with this topic- Institutionalized is such a powerful song
YES and YES. Zero patience for black people who f'in THINK FOR THEMSELVES. How dare they?
Black conservatives don’t even think.
This sounds exactly like the narrative I grew up hearing. I'm a white person from a pretty exclusionary, racist rural town in the south. The most common form of racism around me was basically blaming "black culture" for how you guys have been treated, while completely ignoring or being entirely ignorant of the systemic issues y'all face. The white people around me would justify the dehumanizing treatment of black people with that narrative.
It's pretty shocking to me that the blatantly racist narrative that I grew up hearing from the white people I was surrounded by being parroted by black influencers.
so if you have a problem lets say you dont have enough skills or money , are we supposed to blame the system or your mother? at the end of the day who is at fault ?
@@relly793 shoutout to OP’s mother for being, as far as has been documented here, the only person to exist in a vacuum outside systemic white imperialism at least long enough to raise one (1) child
“If these pipes are polluting your home, do you expect me to blame the carefully manicured banal little rules that just happen to make it so the pipes only run through THESE homes, on THIS side of town, and we simply cannot remove them now or everything will implode all at once (no longterm evidence of this but just trust me, the person who stands to lose the most from the fall of the empire, that we should all blow everything up rather than let it fall)- OR, is it the fault of the people who live in that home for it being on the land where the pipes were always ordained to go?! Maybe live somewhere else if the dumb batshit rules a constantly fluctuating, self cannibalizing societal structure will allow it. They won’t? Damn lol that sucks maybe just work harder”
@@relly793 I'm not quite sure what you're asking here or how it pertains to what I said.
@@NexLegacyAccount answer the question and youll understand
@@relly793 How am I supposed to answer it if I don't know what you're asking??
I live for your videos and the conversations you bring to the table like this one! Black conservatism is something as a community we need to address because it’s not gonna save us, it continues a lot bad curses we need to break
How did the white man get to where he is now? Was it by being liberal? Was the white man liberal for the best couple of centuries?
what bad curses specifically?
Votes 98% Democrat
You: Black conservatism is the problem.
@@drumyogi9281 lmaoooooooo facts
@@drumyogi9281 lol actually as someone who votes down the middle and doesn’t even identify as Democrat fix your bias/judgements.
Bad curses that get passed down for example are patriarchy and misogyny.....
Edit: I don’t identify with any political party especially when a 2 party system is trash! Sorry I ACTUALLY know why I said what I said 😭😂
When Ye(Jowls) claims that slavery was a choice, he surely meant the choice between the House and the Field. Sowell, Owens, Williams, Elder and Ye must just like shining the silver
It's completely lost on everyone that the phrase "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" was originally meant to describe AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK 🗣️🗣️ Like you cannot physically lift your body weight upwards against the forces of gravity holding you down by pulling on your the straps (or laces) of your footwear. Learning that was like learning that the term straight was invented by gay people.
Here's a great video of a TEDx talk delving more into the origins of the phrase (which came from a myth, shocking), it's popularity, and it's appropriation:
Challenging The Bootstrap Myth | Antonio Valdés | TEDx Talks
ruclips.net/video/f5AJUmvs3WU/видео.html
Nope. Wrong.
So, bidensux, huh. You wouldn’t happen to be a conservative, now, would you?
Did you know that conservatives, on average, have a below normal IQ?
@@bidensuxtrublow1999 Why don't you demonstrate it? Go on, pull them.
@@bidensuxtrublow1999Low Energy Answer - SAD!
Thomas Sowell was the main inspiration for Clarence Thomas' move to the right. He was also my hero as a young clueless man, who swallowed everything from his conservative parents. His continued popularity with older folks is horrifying and maddening.
Because he's right lol
@@waynewayne8419 yes, cis het patriarchal businessmen hold the keys to your liberation. Behold, a gentleman of culture. 🙄
@@doctorx3 naah, black culture (American) needs a reset. How can you hope to challenge the structure when you have things like gangster rap going around lmfao
@@waynewayne8419 Wayne, you copying the same shit in a lot of threads. You bot or troll?
@@everforward5561 see that's the only way you guys confront different opinions. You either call people bots/trolls or say they are wrong even when they aren't.
But you keep doing your thing, let's see how far this movement goes.
As a white liberal I think going back to segregation is a good thing. I think everyone will benefit from it
Hi FD.
Thomas Sowell is a blunt instrument of justification, more so in the hands of white conservatives than any other.
Some people in my life that I went to high school with, and they went hard in the right-pocket liberal direction, and I went hard left, frequently make it their business to mock me and my views, and they usually use Sowell to do it. They're white btw, and I think they revel in the idea that they're justifying conservative bile using a black economist to do it.
It's an important message to separate the systemic problems from the figureheads that *appear* to debunk it. Glad for this video and message.
Appreciate this very much.
mock you for what though?
I think you revel in the idea that you’re justifying your bile using a black RUclipsr. Geese and gander I guess.
@@relly793 mock me for being a leftist -- I live in Utah.
@@RomulusA what's the bile? And no, it's not a black RUclipsr, it's a leftist RUclipsr calling Thomas Sowell out for being reviled because he throws an economic lens into the political spectrum and people think they're seeing a magic trick. It's pretending a one dimensional approach can succeed in two- or three dimensions.
So tell me. What's the bile?
@@RomulusA FD IS a black RUclipsr. Sure, ok. But the way you referenced him was clearly calling me out as leveraging him for his ethnicity in some kind of way. So explain yourself.
Yep, I don’t know what it was about educators and this film but it was shown way to much in schools.
On the opposite spectrum. Your the lone black child in nonblack suburbs, your teachers play boys in the hood every semester. Fishing for your opinions as if you have insight on gangs & life in urban sprawls.
“Hey X, what are your thoughts on the differences in treatment between doughboy & Tre from their parents?”
It had undertones of; “aren’t you glad you don’t have to worry about drive-bys. You should feel privileged to be here.”
Yet you deal with constant micro aggressions and constant questioning of general competence.
Hundreds of Black communities are at the bottom of Lakes
Are people down there too? Lol. People from all around the world have gone through bad things, yet they come here and succeed, meanwhile the white liberal has programmed black Americans to live in a state of victimhood till this day.
In his writings where he looks at boxing and boxers to describe the breakdown in society, Thomas Sowell said America was in great shape until the 60s, when values began to decline.
That said everything about him for me.
evidence
Any elder black person who says to me "back in the 1900s-1960s life was good for black people"
I know I'm dealing with a lost soul
Look at Wedlock and crime statistics during those times before/after & you’ll see you have no idea what you’re talking about lmao
Also while, I think a lot of the pessimism towards America from black nationalists is warranted, to me their vision of black American unity is somewhat naive, and that naïveté leads them to be anti black.
First off some black nationalist beliefs about economic freedom for black people are wrong. The idea that starting black businesses or buying from black businesses insulates black Americans from America’s larger racist economic forces is just foolish. The wealth of white Americans didn’t come simply from white people supporting white businesses, it came from the continued economic exploitation of people in America and around the globe, and the US government continually pumping trillions of dollars into those white owned businesses.
But when black nationalists discuss economic wealth for black people, they make it seem as if white people have more wealth because they have some kind of white love and magical white unity, and all that’s preventing black economic success is a lack of black entrepreneurs and a lack of magical black unity. This false understanding eventually leads to a lot of negative beliefs towards black people as we collectively fail to carry out the black nationalist’s simplistic magical black unity based wrong headed economic beliefs to collective prosperity.
You see it on RUclips, RUclips creators start out as quasi black nationalists with these kind of simplistic beliefs about how white Americans are doing well and how black people can do well too, and slowly over months or years, as black people fail to live up to those simplistic beliefs they end up spouting a ton of anti black bs.
Agree, you hit the nail on the head. Much of the the idea that Black business/capitalism can insulate community from overall US economic activity is something many still hold onto.
I’m tired of seeing the segregation wasn’t that bad cuz we had our own business meme tweet etc.
I understand how some folks fall into simple perspective solution.
What folks miss is that Jim Crow was separation+restrictions… Many business that were open had to adhere to 1)not draw business away from white business
2) a lot of them was built in areas that was geographical bad no foot traffic & no public transportation
3) lack of access to capital
THANK YOU!! CHRIST! It doesn't even take much to see this is the truth. But, ya know, who wants to think? Let's just endlessly blame ourselves and hustle life it until we die.
Agreed! People also seem to forget that there is no black economy and white economy, there is only the American economy. Whites have been put in positions of power so as to allow them to control the American economy and manipulate it for thier benefit. You can buy from black businesses all you want, at the end of the day a predominately white government will choose what to do with our taxes. They will choose to neglect our social welfare programs. They will choose to underfund our educational institutions and our piss poor healthcare system.
White people this white people that. My family immigrated from Jamaica to Trenton and has been doing better than most of the black Americans that were born here and squandered their opportunity. Systemic racism from the past had a lot to do with why Black America is so messed up but the current culture is very toxic. Education isn’t valued and the baby mama culture and normalization leads to a shitload of broken families and kids that repeat the cycle. Look at other black cultures (especially Nigerians) that immigrate to America and see what their values are and why they do better than other blacks on average. I see the same values and morals that they have in Eastern Asians, Arabs, and South Asians that I have met in college who do well. While y’all are just relying on social Justice to save y’all and better your life and standard of living East Asians, Arabs, South Asians, Africans, etc are valuing education, working and helping each other, building generational wealth, and setting up their kids to do better and succeed. Who knows maybe I’ll get burned and screwed over by the white man. I’ll see how far my morals and ideals get me. So far I have a Government job that’s guaranteed to make me 6 figures by the time I’m 26 and that has great benefits and a likeminded girlfriend who is in the same boat to make 6 figures by mid 20s. And I started out poor from parents that had me at 17 and had to work hard to move up the ladder. I didn’t have wealth in money growing up but they instilled the right morals and values to get me to where I am today.
@@Indicudi Dang bro, that wall of bootstrap salad is thick as the cotton blocking your ears. 🖖🏿
We need tough love!So what do we do now ? We are in a pretty bad place in our history. Our city’s are doing bad, our children’s education is bad, fatherless homes, crime, on an on . There is a point where we need to take accountability for our own actions, take care of ourselves, instead of waiting on someone else to take care of us . Most of the problems we have, cannot be blamed on anyone but ourselves. We have had 50 years of Black faces in high places and things are worse than ever. If you look at President Obama’s record, ( really look ) all he did for us was be black.
I don’t understand why we can’t face some uncomfortable truths , and get to work on reclaiming our rightful place in this country.
Everytime a white conservative invokes this man's name I can't. I can't exist anymore in this world. Cannot.
I've never been able to watch Thomas Sowell because is videos make my fucking blood boil.
Bro, you started this video louder than a belting 90s RnB singer 😂
Also eagerly awaiting for your in-depth thoughts about Thomas Sowell! 🍿
Dang no audio brother. Also I keep getting Thomas Sowell shit in my recommendations and it won't stop, so I just started flagging any video that had his content in it lol
This app is trying so hard to turn me anti-leftist with recommendations and ads. I can’t imagine what it’s like for a curious young person who can’t smell the dishonesty from the thumbnails. 😒
@@crnkmnky 📠
@@crnkmnky seriously, if I was still high school or undergrad aged, this may have gotten me
Black Conservatives should speak to Michael Steele who was made the Chairman of the GOP by the GOP PARTY.
He was under the impression that it was His dedication to Conservative values for over 40 years.
On a live News Outlet one of his Conservative colleagues made it clear that the only reason he was made Chairman of the GOP was because they wanted to attract more black voters.
Michael Steele lost it & you couldn’t blame Him.
They never saw him as anything but a Black Man.
I've been waiting for a "Fuck Thomas Sowell" video all my life! Thank you brother!
I appreciate your point at the end, because I always found that to be the problem with “we just want Black people to be more [BLANK]” excuse-Obama represented a lot of what these people claimed they want Black people to do, and they still disrespected him over and over.
So should you. Blsck wealth dropped enormously under him. As it has under Biden. Liberal policirs don't work for black people. They make everything worse.
Obama didn't represent anybody but himself.
I’m 22 and I even saw lean on me throughout my childhood. They really push it down our throat and I didn’t even realize!
There’s something about Thomas Sowell starting to make these arguments in 1968 that’s especially vile. Like if you were born black in the 1980s or 90s and were raised with some affluence, you are aware that racism exists obviously, but it’s possible to think it’s not such a big deal or that it’s the result of other black people not being good enough or whatever; but Thomas Sowell was around when the laws of the land weren’t just enforced unequally, but were on paper arrayed against black people. That he saw this and thought, what black people need is endless lectures about the wonders of capitalism is complete nuts
Sowell was not the only black person who disagreed with King during the CRM. Remember, a black woman tried to stab him to death. Sowell just happened to outlive the others.
@@andreabrown4541 Life always takes the best humans, and leaves the trash.
have y’all actually tried to understand thomas sowell 😂😂😂
@@search4omniscience Wtf is their to understand? Please, explain how he’s “greatest” thing since, sliced bread?
@@stevonwhite8933 he’s revered as one of the greatest minds in america history
Great video fam.....I like your "Fly in the Milk" analogy. Very accurate. Some people would call Candace a "House Negro" or a "Coon". I like to use the term "OJ" to describe blacks like Candace because she is so numb to racism and talks like a white woman when it's absolutely convinent. She's the type to call herself an American first before calling herself black. Candace looks at racism as if its a 2-star restaurant with amazing customer service Lmaoo...she look at racism as a two way street with positives and negatives lml
What a terrible way to view life. I can't imagine the negative energy that this guy must live with. Hopefully he doesn't infect too many people.
On point. I've noticed this kinda stuff from African immigrants too. I mean yall came here WILLINGLY full decades after Jim Crowe and CENTURIES after slavery but I'll digress lol
There was a a popular South African twitter account a couple of years ago, who's entire premise was around Sowell, Sowelnomics or something in that jist. A couple of months later the person running the account gets doxxed turns out it was a white guy, Afrikaner too if I recall.
This has nothing to do with nothing really. But goes to show a lot of prominent black conservatives at nothing more than sock puppets for white supremacy.
Exactly. They come here and start at zero.
Meanwhile people in the hood are born starting in the negatives.
No you don’t you have heard a few people say that on Twitter. You have never actually heard it from and African in real life
@@Emperor.Penguin. great point
They come, face the same issues and they still outcompete you. It's your culture. Racism plays a part but Nigerians for example are the most educated group on the states for example.
Y'all just lazy and blame everyone
I mean this conversation [overall] has been going on for awhile in our community. And I mean since like Booker T. Washington vs W. E. B. Dubois awhile, if I am not mistaken.
The conversation can be summed into this simple question:
Do racists respect 'hard working' black people?
Any self-respecting black person knows the answer to that.
Thomas Sowell does not respect himself.
Conservatism is way more logical for black men than this new version of liberalism we uphold!
You don't need conservatism, you need patriarchy
It really is amazing where you can find the old Black neighborhoods in towns with large highways. I-55 and Chestnut Valley in St. Louis, I-70 and Globeville in Denver, I-94 and North Minneapolis, wherever there's a nexus of federal highways it is almost guaranteed to be where black people used to thrive.
I-70 in Kansas City too. When hits downtown there’s a highway, 71 I believe, that slices right through historically segregated black neighborhoods even though it made more sense for it to be through affluent and middle class white neighborhoods a few miles away. Then in the 90s Mayor (current us rep) Emanuel Cleaver put stop lights on the highway that white rural/suburban ppl in the metro still complain about to this day, never mind playgrounds and sidewalks children use are right there- they dont care or connect the legacy racist ideology they hold.
Totally happened here in Detroit. Black bottom neighborhood if I'm correct.
Time waits for no man
Please make a in depth video on him
Years end probably
I have no patience for Conservative/Neo-fascist nonsense regardless of Race or Gender.
Man I was literally watching his videos and shaking my head .I almost wanted to dm you because of how popular he seems to be getting again I watched him in 2013 hardcore
Luckily my mother (Boomer), wasn't an idiot, and wasn't swept up by that bullshit. Even though we went through the trenches, she was still able to instill within my siblings (Millenials), and especially me (Gen Z), the principles and thought processes that led to find channels like this one.
In the late 80s, Hollywood was all about gangs, South Central, riots and scaring everyone with black people. There was a shitload of films about similar schools and neighborhoods. You know how Hollywood goes on those binges? Vietnam, Sci-fi, Superheroes, musicals, animation? Yeah, "Don't trust them N*ggaz Ovah' Dere" was really popular.
We got:
Lean On Me
Dangerous Minds (theme song by Coolio)
Boyz In The Hood
Menace To Society
and
Only The Strong
To name a few.
That was Regan/Bush era America putting out those movies while conservatives were simultaneously complaining about "liberal bias in the media."
It was scary to see black people after leaving the movies and that's exactly what they wanted.
The first five minutes of _Lean on Me_ looked like a skit from _The Boondocks_
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I was thinking Thomas Sowell - Uncle Ruckus with an economics degree.
My mother is a retired school teacher from an entire family of school teachers. Back in the 90's, she LOVED Lean On Me and the Joe Clark story. As the child of school teachers, I was made to watch that movie far more than my fair share. I felt like, yeah I get it. Don't disrespect the school staff, don't fight, don't get involved in gangs, do your school work. I'm doing all that and I'm still struggling. There's something else missing here.
Yeah, brains
It's almost like people only do those things when they have no better options in life.
Thomas Sowell is a contemp brilliant blk educator w common sense, that those of any race have to aciknowlege and respect? Where is he in the wrong?
re: juvenile detention centers and "tough love"
There's a group of Latinx kids here (OR) that are organizing and pressuring the school system to spend money on counselors instead of security in schools. It's awesome.
But, I'm ashamed to say, even after spending half my life in the poor urban south, I am just now realizing how fucking abusive juvenile detention centers are. And totally useless too.
All this does is traumatize children, and in a lot of cases, creates adult criminals, addicts, damaged souls. 💔
BTW it would be awesome if you did a video on criminalization of black and brown kids 😌
And thank you, as always, for your great videos. I think you are one of the best creators out here!!
These ideas and shifted funding and approaches would definitely help break that school-to-prison pipeline.
I was in & out of jail as a teen & it def scarred me. (From ages 13-16) Mom disowned me at age 12 & just let the courts/state deal with me. Which meant doing time in a juvenile facility. It gives you early on the mentality that you're a "criminal" & deserve punishment rather than love. 🥺
I wasn't even a bad kid, btw! Most of the stuff I was jailed for was stuff parents should've dealt with at home. Joyriding in parent's car, petty theft, habitual runaway, stuff like that. Instead of just grounding me or something, they called the cops & pressed charges on me. It's hard to forgive them for, tbh. Working on it. I had substance abuse issues, which ran in the fam. But all I needed was love & *guidance!* I got none of that. It's even worse for black & brown kids though, bc they have to deal with racism on top of all that. 😞
We need community centers for kids. Somewhere where there's community & *help.* I'm glad to hear about the kids in your town!! That's amazing! ✊❤ Maybe they can help heal & prevent future trauma. It's rough out there, esp when you don't have family to care for you. 😔
Also need proper pay, to raise the minimum wage, bc then parents could afford to be at home instead of working all the time! My dad stayed working 2 jobs at a time.
@@JaseekaRawr I'm sorry you had to go through that ☹️
Some parents are just... smh. I don't have kids but i teach and i consider my students as my kids in a way. it takes a village as they say.
I hope you're doing better now.
If he does a conversation on that we also need to bring up how some juvie programs also train the kids into prison slave labor. Here in WV there are often mandatory work programs the kids are forced into to "teach them discipline" or give them useful skills like...picking tomatoes. For some reason a lot of people don't see how fucked up it is to use kids from difficult circumstances as slaves. Getting them ready for long term exploitation.
Please refrain from using the word "Latinx".
Yes! Finally someone who understands the history of what happened to our businesses. I'm all for the hard work and building yourself up but what's the point when they destroy it the moment you accomplish it.
It's the problem I have with libertarians. Self-reliance absolutely can and should be a personal ideal--it should not be a political one. Because it ignores that our economy is absolutely no where close to being equal. There are plenty of people who fall through the cracks and never recover and they work just as hard.
That's not an excuse not to build. But it is a reason to protect what you build.
@@zinjanthropus322 yes that's true. But I'm pretty sure they used bombs to destroy the property. How do you suggest we protect what we build from bombs?
@@saidit.meantit.9133 There are examples of places all over the world where that is the threat today yet people still thrive. Planes and explosive materials can be tracked, with a collective war chest, legal means of defence and retaliation can be pursued whether that be hiring mercenaries, putting the best law firms in the country on retainer or gradually building connections with federal agencies so information about such terrorist groups can be shared ahead of time. We're not in the 1900s, lots of black people have served in all branches of the military/government and have the necessary skills to deal with such threats. If you're too timid and stay down when you're hit then.... that's where you'll stay.
@@zinjanthropus322 yes that's true but to continuously do something expecting a different outcome is insanity. Why keep getting up to continuously be knocked down?
I concur. I don't understand how black men like Mr Sowell can actually deny the fact that black people have been disenfranchised and continually vilified but white America.
Growing up in the UK I learned more unbiased history about the USA than some people I have talked to. I get called a "CRT loving radical" for arguing that it's only fair to have more low-interest long-term SBA loans, like sub-prime, for helping black Americans better themselves. The US does the same loans after disasters since they make a better economy in the long run, and from just the stuff I've learned it's a couple hurricanes worth of damage that has been done to black American businesses and properties.
Joe Clark was the Principal of Eastside HS in Paterson NJ. My city.
He was played by GOD……Morgan Freeman.
Joe Clark was somewhat unorthodox in his methods let’s say, but back in the 70’s and 80’s the kids was wild.
I am not an apologist for Clark, nor do I “lean” on his methodology, but he was in a tough situation at the same time.
The film was obviously embellished by that goofy ass director but it wasnt too far off from his practices. Kids were wild but kicking them out with no plan for them did nothing but make the neighborhood worse. Cant criminalize students even if you are helping some. It isnt and wasnt effective at all
@@apollo105 and the main antagonist of the film is a mother who’s child got kicked out of school for (I guess doing drugs? It’s never really explained?) I literally understood her position 💀