How Thermal Compound Spreads
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- How does each method spreads under heatsink? Watch it live!
Picture illustration on why spread method isn't the best:
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I personally use the pea method when mounting the heatsink onto the CPU. Whether the spread method will create air bubbles or not, I would not recommend it. The reason is simply. The base of the heatsink might not be entirely flat and if so, it creates air gaps between the CPU's heat spreader and the heatsink base. The spread method is not able to fill up the air gap.
I love how the annotation says "Please rate" kinda nostalgic.
Realmente
Still have the line tho
And now I'm nostalgic for annotations...
I was thinking... "what annotation?". Then I remembered.
Whats rate?
Excellent video. I've always favoured spread, but this has convinced me that dot (or cross) is best. Thanks.
Cross.
Dot
@@ergunburak no
@@ergunburak no
Fat dot. Best in any case
I normally do the line method but only because I have the habit of snorting cocaine.
+Ed Gain now try cross-method with your cocaine
LOL
welcome to the club buddy
Ed Gain snorting co caine.
I try doing the dot but end up with a line because my control is terrible
See you everyone 10 years later when this gets randomly reccomended again
After 10 years no one would see your comment
@@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp after 10 years the earth wouldn't last so long
@@justinz.4069 tru but the remaining people might see it
@@TopperGamingandMore-tp4pp bruh, you just said nobody would see it...
@@allawie5971 fck i am dumb
This literally came into my reccomendeds 11 years later okay?
(Okay i dont deserve these likes)
Same...
No kidding.
@@ExcelonTheFourthAvalonHeirs yup
Same
same
The best video about applying thermal paste I ever saw on youtube!
yea TRUE
The verge
@@iamf6641 Hold my beer !
Hateroz no
Agreed
"It is good pc building practice to ADD MORE"
you need m o r e
Wait you forgot to benchmark it with league (the most crucial step)
@@Dasheroids Make sure its locked at 120 fps tho.
don't be shy
P
As I've posted before on another RUclipsrs site; I just used the spread method ( which people say becomes too thin). I then added on top of the spread paste a pea-sized amount of MX2, this application method has made the PS4 so quiet that i was concerned that i may have forgotten the wire off during installation but because of the vibration by the fan i knew i had done a thorough job.
Do not forget, that the paste will spread, when the processor gets hot the first time.
thanks
Which do you recommend
+Robert Torres Cross.
titwank
@@robertct06 Cross or dot, which is better.
How Thermal Compound Spreads
My brain when i wanna sleep: INTRESTING
11 year old video and still valid, various outliers aside. Awesome thank you.
Where is the "Icing a cake" method?
You are required to fight cancer before using this method
@@Jirudoggu you need a table before fighting cancer.
@@davidviper3482 You need an Allen wrench to make the table
@@jacktpx4647 i thought you needed tweezers for that
@@user-ew9mc2rg1l what about an army knife *hopefully* with a screwdriver
No one:
RUclips: Let's recommend this after 11 years!
No, more like everyone: Huurr durrr youtube recommends this after 11 years haha I am so original. fuck off
@@GoogleAccount-tt5yx True that. So many retards on this site repeating this same boring comments over and over again
This somehow reminds me of what the Verge did on their poor cpu.
Their very exclusive hexacore i7 8th generation chip
Yes we got one !
Oh yes that was such a beautiful painting they made on that cpu
11 years ago. And still useful. Stay safe and take care legend.
There’s no doubt youtube is watching me lurking in the shadows somewhere
Same bro I just needed to do something like this today cause my cpu was overheating and I get recommended a video afterwards
Its bc you use chrome with all those tasty permissions. In 50 years google will be more powerful than every nation state
@@infinity2z3r07 try 5 years
im about to build my first comp and ive been researching different methods of thermal paste application for hours now. this little video is probably the most helpful thing ive seen thus far. thanks for making this :D
ikr? this shit is incredible lol
Wouldn't it be better to show the glass being locked down as per with the true locking mechanism, which would show how much actual force is the maximum that can be used. Otherwise you are compensating for where it dose not flow by applying differing pressures with your hands.
+Aussie Matt ... exactly my thought. You cannot mash down on the middle of your cooler with your thumb like he does with the glass. Totally worthless representation.
+Speeding Cops North Carolina of course you can lol
The point is
.....the dot is the best
+Michael street Why was the dot best? The x got the best over all coverage. I have been doing the x for that reason.
The temperature between line,dot and X is meaningless(There is barely a difference). Too much or not enough thermal paste will be the main difference anyway.
The pattern showing on the spread method is not due to air bubbles but due to deformation of the material due to uneven pressure, it's the same pattern that shows on the paste when the cooler is detached. The spread method is the superior one.
Incorrect. Benchmarks have shown that applying a small dot is the best option. Spreading is, in fact, one of the worst things you can do when applying the thermal paste.
i have used both line and spread methods on my 8350 and i have found no difference in the temps
Raymond Emde That's actually expected because, honestly, the only times when I found a problem with the paste is when there actually wasn't any, mostly because it migrated away from where it's supposed to be and hardened. I had a very peculiar situation that on several newer laptops that happened almost exactly 3 years after the purchase, which makes me think it was so by design, they were designed to fail after 3 years.
EvilTim1911 What I do to make sure Iv'e got the best contact is to, first, put a 1/3 pea sized dot of the compound on the heatsink, spread it with a razor as thinly as possible to fill any gaps and/or micro spaces on the heatsink, then put 1 more dot in the center about 1/3 the size of a pea so the smaller dot can more evenly spread over the CPU and get better thermal conduction.
I believe a hybrid 2-step application is better.
Surms41 That sounds like it would result in an uneven distribution of thermal compound, and also an excess of thermal compound.
Is youtube trying to make this guy come back making videos?
A good video not been seen in 11 God damn years
This is exactly what I was looking for. Holy crap, thank you for actually testing this with a glass plate.
This video is very satisfying to watch. Spread those thermal pastes!
This is super helpful to a lot of new PC builders who aren’t confident with the rain of rice rule.
I’m surprised I only found this 11 years later.
Acrilic piece probably bends a lot more than a metal heatsink so it is not as good at spreading the paste, but overall cool to see how it spreads.
The video is so old, at 2:30 it said please rate. How far youtube have evolved within our life is so nostalgic to reminisce.
0:05 Dot method
0:58 Line method
1:50 Spread method
2:13 Cross method
its better to watch all for the satisfaction, its small anyway
11 years is exactly the time to watch a ripe thermal paste video. perfect
10 years later and noone came any closer. This needs to be updated
concludes why my Heat sink is not performing.. I followed the "spreading" method before installation and as the video showed... it created air pockets.... Great video :)
i used the spreading method before on all my old cpu`s (single and dual core). its still a good way to do it . all your trying to do is fill in any imperfections in the machining of the heatsink and die of the cpu , i used the line method an this build and the temps are constant over all 4 cores ....
He just press it in a bad way.
Man, pre-2013 RUclips was a whole another animal when it came to content
I am happy I got this recommended after 11 years
Recommended 11 years later don't know why but enjoyed it
Sure the Arctic Silver has a higher viscosity and doesn't easily spread out like the silicone. But you also got to factor in what happens once you boot up your computer and the CPU heats up. You don't need to have it completely spread out right away. That will happen later on, once your computer gets going.
+ToMMy BoY Ok... I'm banking on this.
***** excuse me wtf is this?
One has to keep in mind when the system is run, it heats up, and the paste thins out and spreads, so all in all, it really doesn't matter how you apply it.
No, it does matter most builders use AS5 which is like 99.9% silver and if it gets into the circuitry it'll fry the board.
That's right. I used dot method , and every time when I replaced my thermal paste it always looked evenly spread out.
@@lonerider92 Most? like you took a pole. Thats not true that most use AS5.
@@insidejob8309 It’s a six year post. Cool your tool dude. Six years ago everyone and I mean everyone who built their own PCs used AS5. Before they changed the formula. I suggest doing some research before you go running your mouth like that again.
This video was uploaded 11 years ago and still great
Video 11 years ago more helpful than videos nowadays
I know you're gonna look for The Verge comments down here. ʕ•ﻌ•ʔ
And there is none.. Not many pc masterrace here
There is now.
How to apply thermal paste.... The age old geek dilemma!
yeah, were it not for you tube's lazy algorythm, the issue would have been solved last decade.
As much as everyone spams "too much paste," this really demonstrates that the small dot everyone says is ideal is not enough.
The IHS is a heat *spreader*, all of it is getting hot so you want the entire surface covered with paste (as thin a layer as possible) for optimal heat transfer. You either need a larger dot or some type of pattern to actually cover the IHS.
This is better than majorities of the "ASMR" videos on RUclips for real
*"TOO LITTLE THERMAL PASTE"*
I'm no expert, but isn't it? I always thought it was supposed to cover the whole area
Someone said it will spread when the processor gets hot the first time, maybe das why
@@kepagu ruclips.net/video/uRy-lcmNsDg/видео.html
@@kwon06 thanks bro
Just try not to let electrically conductive paste overflow too much. Regular white stuff is fine
see you guys in about 7 years i guess
🙌🏾
lol yeah
Im gonna be part of history
Thanks for this video. I have used the method of spreading the compound over the CPU and have had issues in the past. With your help I have been able to see why. Some serious air bubbles!
uh youtube why are you recommending me a good quality youtube video from 11 years ago
Единственное правильное видео по нанесению термопасты ИМХО!
За исключением одного мааааленького нюанса - где тест со "Spread method (Arctic Silver 3)"?
Я вот пользуюсь Zalman STG-2 (из-за приемлемой цены при очень хорошем качестве), а не этими силиконовыми "водичками", и она явно так не растекается.
Даже как-то за не имением Zalman STG-2 попавшаяся под руку белая Titan NanoGrease и то таких пузырей как в ролике не даёт - прямо только что проверил на остатках.
cache96 ну хз. У меня тоже есть sgt 2 и мне она кажется слишком густой. Купил на её замену MX 4 и всем доволен.
Вадим Иванин MX 4 конечно же лучше, но заметно дороже. Для себя любимого можно. Но для переборки всякого, тем более хлама, чем дешевле, тем лучше. STG-2 - нижний порог, на котором ещё есть достойное качество. Всё что дешевле уже намного хуже.
cache96 Да как то так и есть. У меня она просто с кулером залпан cnps 10 extreme шла я её намазал как то раз а она густая аж ппц) сейчас на неё посадил радиаторы на память видеокарты) держит как термоклей =)
***** actually we can)
So basically the best method is to place a few dots to cover more... Damn, I thought that an even spreading of the compound was the best solution! O_O Thanks for making this video!
not a few dots, just 1 dot in the middle of the chip
PlaystationQUAD Well, no. As we have seen, one dot doesn't cover the entire surface (not even remotely...) so a precise placement of more thermal compound "dots" seems the way to go. At least to cover more than 1/3 of the surface.
0Tidus0989 apply a 'bigger' dot.. aslong its 1 dot and not smeared, the pressure of the heatsink will eventually surface the whole chip. Also the type of thermal paste can differ a lot, there are thermal pastes that are more 'liquid' so you need to aply less/smaller dot
0Tidus0989 PlaystationQUAD you shouldnt even cover the whole chip, just the cores (in the middle)
Best method is actually the line method for most CPUs as it makes sure the paste spreads well enough on top of the cores. Just like in the video, but with the arctic you want a thinner line but longer (start from the edges).
I've always done the spread method but this might have convinced me the x is best. Thanks youtube for informing me.. 11 years later!
I have literally watched everything RUclips has to offer
yea recommended me this after 11 years.
Nice
Thanks, now I know that you got it recommended after 11 years
x method I'm starting to realize is one of the best for arctic silver 5 now...
Love how this is in my recommendations now 11 years later
Thanks for this excellent video.
I now understand why my CPU temperatures go through the roof (up to the point of shutting down the pc entirely) since I last changed the cooler + fan.
I had no idea the spread method could cause all that. Gonna try the X method now. Thanks again!
Very nice to see such a thoughtfully made video. You have my appreciation as I'll be doing this in the next 2 days. I liked the way the single line spread.. uniform with extensive coverage. I would love to see a Twin Line method explored.. or perhaps an "H" pattern with the idea of getting the nice even single line coverage over a greater area... or perhaps 4 smaller single lines top to bottom. The air bubbles from the full coverage method was informative. Thanks again for your video.
The surface of coolers and water blocks are often a little bit bowed out in the center, you need a piece of glass with those dimensions to get a totally accurate idea of how it spreads, it spreads a little further because the center part pretty much touches the middle of the heat spreader and squeezes it out a little more than shown here
I was installing a new CPU cooler yesterday and today this is in my "Recommended" Nice 👍
In your case, I‘d be concerned.
@@Sherolox lol 😂
Good old youtube videos, straight to the topic
The Verge: "I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that."
In this week's episode of
"Why the heck is this in my recommended 11 years later"
You know what? This is satisfying as fuck.
Even though it’s 11 years old, this video is still great
Thanks RUclips for a recommendation video from 11 years ago.
Why did this slide into my recommended 11 years later
Wow. Never thought the Spread method might be wrong. I'll use the cross from now on. Very educative video thanks!
it to much , you have to make sure that the paste don't go on the edge of your cpu ,and when the cpu heat up the paste spread even more and thermal past it conductive ...a little drop on your mb and it done ! the peat method is the way to go ..if you wan the circle to be bigger you just apply a little bit more ...but make sure thermal past don't reach the edge of cpu and fall on your mb..poeple think tha if you have paste on all the surface of the cpu it better,but it not ...even it worst
sorry for my poor english !
Most pastes are completely non-conductive don't worry.
This video has helped me with my previously constantly thermothrottling laptop.. my god the difference
I typically am a fan of using the x-pattern for most cpus. I've just always had good results with it. Gives me the best coverage across most of the IHS and rarely have I had any spill-over onto the socket. You can do the pea sized dot in the center too, that's a tried and true method, but I just prefer the x-pattern now. And I typically use Noctua's paste these days. Have had great results with it and I don't use liquid metal type applications. Never felt the need to.
The Verge: I'll pretend i didn't see that
11 years later and youtube recommends about thermal compound spreads
Imagine this content creator's surprise that one of his videos from 11 years ago is starting to get noticed.
I have used the spread method on the Q6600-stock cooler (overclocked to 3.0Mhz) and i had 61,61,55,54C. I used the Dot method and now 44,44,36,36C. Much better :)
3Mhz? wow that's super underclocked. i hope you mean Ghz
rasnikoff ponzitoff Yes my mistake sorry
merovatis1 Time for a better CPU... Q6600 is 8 years old.
norge696 Still can handle my GTX 750 Ti. Good enough for me
merovatis1 I personally have been using the spread method with no issues, I don't think you applied it properly.
hahahahahaha, u make me laugh.
Another +100k RUclipsr?
6 years ago and my boy has that checkmark...
o kurde black
You still laughing today?
o kurwa blacku
Super cool vid! Would love to see an updated one with more variables
1. Just replaced the Thermal Paste on my cpu
2. Turned my pc on
3. Opened youtube
4. This is the first video in my recommended
5. ???
pea, cross, spread, line. All that matters is the correct amount, not the shape. However i would think spreading is gonna cause trapped air cos the paste can't spread out pushing the air out.
why is this in my recommended and why did i click it?
cool video btw...
I kept searching about how to apply thermal paste properly ever since I was traumatized by the VERGE BUILD.
Year later, this came to my recommendation. This was uploaded 11 years ago. The channel owner did such good coverage but has less than 1k subs in 11 years. For all we know, he is inactive and left hope for the channel.
RUclips, why?
Those arent "air pockets", theyre areas of very thin thermal compound, meaning almost direct metal-to-metal interface, which is what you actually want.
me in 2020: why this video so satisfying
has anyone tired batman sign
Oh look tough guy, you can't even spell "no" properly. LOL. epic fail.
It's called a typo, I'm pretty sure anyone with even the intellectual of a hamster saw that when reading my comment.
Be water my friend.
Lol
LOL
2 years ago and 2 days ago hmm
Please don’t talk about bats...
Finally, what is the best method according to RUclips ????
Hi expert users. The thermal sensor on the cpu chip is a thermal camera. Dual core processors have two thermal sensors for the Vista code to recognize each line. If the thermal paste is applied improperly, or not applied at all, the cpu will reduce speed and the fan speed will be higher. The vista code is needed on the metal cover, the radioactivity is recognized through the case.
why is this in recommended boxes 11 years later
politics
yeah, behind LOL
old times, when there was no replies under comments...
KremówkaGaming2137
yea
back when replies don't exist and comments are always newest first
@@KremowkaGaming-ps7dd haha yea
Lo
dude.. i've doing it wrong cause of what i've read here and there.. here it all came to an end. this was a GREAT TEST to prove the best theory
2009 to 2013: I didn't use RUclips yet
2014: nah
2015: no
2016: maybe later
2017: not yet
2018: no
2019: maybe later
2020: Lets put this on his recommended!
music so bad it killed my ears.
I liked it :/
Kind of catchy, like elevator music or wii menu music
Alexander Calmegård lol, there was a new addition to yt lately. its the volume off button. quite handy
Alexander Calmegård I actually quite like it, but I dont have the volume at 100%..
I kinda really got into it after a while. Come to think of it I really started to enjoy it
ok, for some reason, watching this video hurt my teeth, this is strange.
+AlexandreHimself xD wtf?
+AlexandreHimself great example of a quality youtube comment
+AlexandreHimself That's because you have cavities. Check in with your dentist.
+AlexandreHimself Cuz thermal paste looks like toothpaste?
Cuz he's gritting his teeth while watching it guys lol
Thursday September 17th 2020... that's when I got this in my recommended
Now one
RUclips after 11 years recommend this video
Song?
*-Me:* So how old is this video? 🤔
*-RUclips:* _Yes_
11 years
for new Intel core CPUs, the Pea method is fine since the heat spreader is considerably smaller now. For AMD the X method will cover the most area
11 years old this video looks amazing
Who else got this recommended to you while lockdown is going on.
Me
dat muzic doe
i know right i was jammin
xD
Huh, what did u say?
So, folks, why are we being taught that the pea method is "the best"??? Simple. More broken chips means more profit for chip manufacturers and more jobs for engineers. You can bet anything that if they were actually using the most effective method that chip manufacturers would be out in full force trying to counter it. Yet, I hear NOBODY contradicting this (even though it is obviously flawed because it does not cover the chip). Why??? Because there was a MASSIVE media campaign about a decade ago back (oddly, right around the time the "power wall" was hit) that tried to get people to believe the pea method was the best. Once people believe something strongly it is very difficult to get them to change. And, accordingly, architecture improvements since then have been extremely small and incremental. Don't buy into the hype. Use the spread method almost to the edge, then put a small pea in the middle.
edgy conspiracy theory
Well, it's not really a conspiracy theory, because I am not claiming there is a conspiracy. I don't think it is very much of a conspiracy that a chip manufacturer would want to maximize profits. It is just common sense. A conspiracy would require the existence of a situation that was improbable by its very nature. However, again, wanting to maximize profits through social media quite probable. It is not illegal and there are no controls currently in place to prevent it.
What would be illegal is to sell chips with thermal paste NOT spread in the most efficient way known. This would result in a massive class action lawsuit from customers. Yet, chip manufacturers continue to spread to the edge, where as the pea method alone does not reach the edge.
+ThinkTank255 have you delided a cpu ? The middle is where the chip is. The edge doesn't even matter that much it's just a lid to make it look good.
It does not matter because the ENTIRE surface is capable of absorbing and transferring heat, so if you heat the center it spreads to the edge. That is one point. Another point is that one of the most critical parts is the junction between the leads and the CPU chip itself. If the leads are too hot the junction can fail much sooner. Covering the entire chip ensures proper cooling not only to the die but also to the leads and the junction between them.
Wow 11 years is a long time ago ..
And finally it came into my recommendation list...
I prefer the bukkake method
u 2, so I am not alone
Hey grandpa
11 years later this is still relevant
Thermal butter spread
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