Elden Ring Shadow of the Erdtree: EARLY Furnace Golem Guide (Gravesite Plain)

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  • SIMPLE EARLY EASY TO USE GUIDE! I'll show you how to cheese this MASSIVE roaming fire boss without any shadow realm blessings! This is probably the first boss you will face. Also, the Deflecting Hardtear, Furnace Visage.
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  • @ugotjaked
    @ugotjaked 2 месяца назад +108

    11/10 guide, you legend

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад +2

      Thank you! Thank you! 🙏🏻

    • @janreichenbach265
      @janreichenbach265 2 месяца назад +1

      @@IEatGames Yeah, it is very well done. Strategy works ! Thanks a lot from Munich, Germany !

  • @nihal.organa
    @nihal.organa 2 месяца назад +159

    This stupid furnace staggered midway down a hill and I couldn't get the critical hit on it the first time. It worked out in the end, thanks for the video!

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад +1

      oooh that does sound frustrating - happy to hear it worked out though! :)

    • @olddogguy7347
      @olddogguy7347 2 месяца назад +1

      Same thing just happened to me lol 😂

    • @uglyskully5928
      @uglyskully5928 2 месяца назад

      Literally why i searched for this video😂 on foot couldn’t get the crit

    • @linkblaugrana
      @linkblaugrana 3 дня назад

      It happened to me too 😂😂

  • @ngg4399
    @ngg4399 2 месяца назад +18

    If you use a hammer, flail, great hammer, or axes, you will stagger him in much fewer hits. If you then switch to a weapon with a high Critical Hit modifier like the Misericorde or the Highland Axe, Lordsworn swords etc, you will deal more damage when you perform the critical hit. Thanks for the dodging tips!

  • @amaanpanjwani4398
    @amaanpanjwani4398 2 месяца назад +140

    Fight becomes impossible once he decides to get stuck in between some walls leaving you no space

  • @canadianjoker5033
    @canadianjoker5033 2 месяца назад +19

    Big Tip: If you can get to a higher elevation, you can throw throwing pots into the opening at their top for big damage. I've only used Hefty Fire Cracked Pots and Giantflame Fire Pots. I don't know if other types or more effective. It seems strange that they would be weak to fire pots, but maybe it overloads them. Might be worth trying whatever pot scales best with your build. For me, it's fire, and they work just fine. Hope this helps.🙂

    • @nicolofondaci434
      @nicolofondaci434 2 месяца назад +2

      Theres a note in the game saying this. Use fire pot but not turbin fire pot

    • @canadianjoker5033
      @canadianjoker5033 2 месяца назад +2

      @@nicolofondaci434-You mean Furnace pots? I've been using Heft Fire Pots mostly. However, I just fought one where you HAVE to use a Hefty FURNACE Pot to “awaken” him, as the Hefty Fire Pot doesn't work. Then whatever Hefty Fire one you want to kill him.

  • @Eldtrich
    @Eldtrich 2 месяца назад +10

    If you are playing a INT caster type build, just spam Adula's Moonblade. This spell has a large AOE that it looks like it is hitting both of the feet on 1 swipe. Took this golem down with ease in 1 stagger without doing the weapon critical hit on its head. Just spam AM on both feet and its head when it falls. I use Lusat's +10 and Firedrake +2, follow the evasion tactics shown in this video and this enemy will be a piece of cake.

  • @jcesarrc2741
    @jcesarrc2741 2 месяца назад +11

    A few things you can also do to make it easier. Is change your talismans to the fire protection, damage negation, stamina recovery and use a heavy armor also an incantation ( bestial Vitality) it recovers your health by a small percentage every 2 seconds but it last 3 mins that helps a lot; and a last one, change all your flask to health recovery since your summon or skills won’t be much of help in this fights and you’ll need those health flasks for you and torrent.

  • @Paperrocks11
    @Paperrocks11 2 месяца назад +30

    Awesome help man. Took two attempts to get him down but using torrent was so much easier instead of just brute attacking him and dodge rolling the flames

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      👍🏻

    • @Wafting
      @Wafting 2 месяца назад +1

      You could've just jumped

    • @elib.7079
      @elib.7079 2 месяца назад +1

      Dodge roll? Well that’s what the problem is here lol, jumping is way easier

    • @Paperrocks11
      @Paperrocks11 2 месяца назад

      @@elib.7079 lol I noticed that when I was fighting a furnace golem around the shadow keep

  • @fafofafin
    @fafofafin 2 месяца назад +4

    This is a really good tutorial. You even show how to deal with mistakes and that it's nothing to panic about it. 10/10

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад +1

      ❤️

    • @pedrodufour529
      @pedrodufour529 2 месяца назад

      Weird...i dont have time enough to get on Torrent or talk my HP flask..always one shot dead.

    • @fafofafin
      @fafofafin 2 месяца назад

      @@pedrodufour529If you're getting one shotted by anything, don't fight it until you have more scadutree fragments.

  • @beanfrog4320
    @beanfrog4320 2 месяца назад +11

    Thanks for the early guide! For any ranged users, try Spiral Shard for sorceries or Pest Threads for Incantation users, they rip apart giant foes!

  • @IsaLovesAspargus
    @IsaLovesAspargus 2 месяца назад +9

    This actually worked, got lucky and did it first try. Great job man, thanks a ton ❤

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад +1

      No problem 👍

  • @DragonsDream
    @DragonsDream 24 дня назад

    The best guide on this, I'm saving them all to fight right before Radahn, so this is really helpful, thank you

  • @stefaniverson2739
    @stefaniverson2739 2 месяца назад +21

    Not me forgetting that I don’t have to kill everything I see immediately in this game and can level up and come back to fights lol

    • @deputyhobbs9683
      @deputyhobbs9683 2 месяца назад

      yes you do. you must kill. violence violence violence, destroy

  • @thepainphantom
    @thepainphantom 2 месяца назад +24

    Torrent should get a raise. He/she helps us with Elden Beast, and now furnace golem too. Melina says hi from heaven.

    • @codythefriendlyskunkboy1780
      @codythefriendlyskunkboy1780 2 месяца назад +12

      That man just NOW started helping us with Elden Beast 💀

    • @thepainphantom
      @thepainphantom 2 месяца назад

      @@codythefriendlyskunkboy1780 For older players, we git gud before torrent came to rescue.

    • @bjartemannnn
      @bjartemannnn 2 месяца назад +2

      She didnt get to heaven on my save, sacrificed her, then went and picked up frenzy flame after. I dont want her to hunt me for all eternity. Mans gotta do what a mans gotta do

    • @thepainphantom
      @thepainphantom 2 месяца назад

      @@bjartemannnn I did that too in one of my playthru. That crazy flaming ending for precious achievement!

    • @PureSilverPaladin
      @PureSilverPaladin 2 месяца назад

      You can’t use torrent in Elden beast if I recall. lol but yeah still deserve the raise for helping us…

  • @sergioalejandrobricenostap9016
    @sergioalejandrobricenostap9016 2 месяца назад +3

    “Just avoid the shockwave and start WACK WACK WACK 🎶”

  • @spiritchanger
    @spiritchanger 2 месяца назад +2

    I started following this guide right at the same time I started the fight and finished rhe fight at the same time. Solid guide 🤝🏾

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      Awesome - that's the way to do it. Congrats!!

  • @PicoHandle
    @PicoHandle Месяц назад

    All my time fighting the Tower Knight from DEMONS SOULS and somehow couldn't figure out how to kill him, but this video made me remember now

  • @legendaryhuntertf744
    @legendaryhuntertf744 Месяц назад +1

    I just came to the DLC today and already defeated blackgaol knight then I saw this thing and thought hmmm seems friendly got melted. Thanks for the guide. Now I can have my revenge with my 2 scadutree blessings

  • @benz9027
    @benz9027 Месяц назад +1

    Thank you. I got it first try after this video

  • @kindafitsam9246
    @kindafitsam9246 Месяц назад +1

    Got him first try using this Strat. Had no idea the crit would do 45k damage lol

  • @UnderDough
    @UnderDough 2 месяца назад +1

    Your video was gold, i was scared of going near them, now ive first tried 3 so far 😂 absolute madness.

  • @Nightshooter4951
    @Nightshooter4951 2 месяца назад

    There is a note called furnace keeper note, and it says “keep fire pots well clear when golem’s furnace ablaze” “never let me catch you with pots that produce flaming whirlwinds” You need to use the hefty furnace pot

  • @ghostedpt
    @ghostedpt 2 месяца назад +1

    Dude you are the GOAT thank you so much!!! Literally beat him while I was watching the video lol

  • @bea_cimochian
    @bea_cimochian 2 месяца назад +3

    Legend!! Thanks for that! 3 tries and I got him!!

  • @andrewgx48
    @andrewgx48 2 месяца назад +5

    Thanks a lot mate, after being stuck for 1 hour with this mf it only took 2 tries to get it done with the strat yoy showed in the video, many thanks!

  • @sebastianx13
    @sebastianx13 2 месяца назад +2

    Took your advice and did it in first try. Thanks!

  • @christiancividino455
    @christiancividino455 2 месяца назад

    I charged DMGS for extra attack and equipped lance talisman plus crimsonwhorl tear to convert damage to hp. Made the boss a breeze. Thanks for the video and inspiring me to finally taking him down.

  • @Liam_MJD
    @Liam_MJD 2 месяца назад +1

    Much appreciated. I killed it the first time with your guidance, subbed🙂

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      Love it - thanks for the support!

  • @casanovagabe
    @casanovagabe Месяц назад

    literally killed him without getting hit lol. I did what you said, just D ride his back feet the whole time, however i find it best if you use a heavy weapon (i used the bloodfiend arm) as it'll do damage, especially poise damage. I found the technique is to just hit him with 2 light attacks or One heavy (2 light = 1 heavy idk if thats similar in swing timing) and after doing those attacks he should like get ready to stomp so that'll give you enough time to prepare.

  • @robking6407
    @robking6407 2 месяца назад +1

    Holy shit it worked so much easier than what I was attempting thanks so much.

  • @user-ww1nt3qh7k
    @user-ww1nt3qh7k Месяц назад +1

    Nice guide dude

  • @DeadzieRL
    @DeadzieRL 2 месяца назад

    I've got a cool tip to one shot the Furnace Giants rather than knocking it down twice.
    After you knock it down on its side, you hit the critical hit spot on their face as usual.
    On its way back up, position yourself near the top of the giant, then you throw a hefty pot into the fiery part of its head. It should finish off the giant!
    I've only tested this once, and I had 16 Scadutree blessings at the time of doing it. Hope this helps!

  • @wealthybone2990
    @wealthybone2990 2 месяца назад

    I had my way of defeating them which was using the ancient dragon lighting strike which works does alot and staggers but I had trouble once I ran out of flasks and didn't know what to do really with his both leg stomp. Was trying to figure out what was the best way and I found this video, thank you for this guide, it was helpful.

  • @jwo011
    @jwo011 2 месяца назад +1

    The advice worked flawlessly. Thanks 👍

  • @adelamickova6953
    @adelamickova6953 2 месяца назад

    Thank you that was a lovely guide, was able to get him right after watching this guide. Not sure if it helped, but I used Cold Nagakiba and didn't have to break his poise twice.

  • @SsJsSx
    @SsJsSx 2 месяца назад +1

    God bless you tarnished. Took me two tries , didnt even summon and used 2 flasks

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад +1

      Congrats! 👍🏻

  • @jaimerojas6578
    @jaimerojas6578 2 месяца назад

    Thanks mate, stuff like this is always needed ❤

  • @marios.2975
    @marios.2975 2 месяца назад

    Worked like a charm! Had to revive my horse twice but not bad on 2nd try. Did go down in 2 criticals with GUTS Greatsword

  • @masonthompson8277
    @masonthompson8277 2 месяца назад +4

    How do you beat the one in scadu Altus, it is easily twice as hard to beat and has a different moveset.

    • @jordanshaw9076
      @jordanshaw9076 2 месяца назад

      Yeah, trying to find how to beat him, assuming throwables of some kind

  • @TipsyPotatoGirl
    @TipsyPotatoGirl 2 месяца назад +1

    This worked wonders!!! Thank you so much!!!! ❤❤❤

  • @danknado97
    @danknado97 2 месяца назад +12

    Naaah ruins greatsword and do it on foot

  • @moseswilson2932
    @moseswilson2932 2 месяца назад

    The armored one by the spring jump litteraly jumped up and swung on me when I hit him with a hefty fire crack pot .. my jaw dropped

  • @jasonheath7045
    @jasonheath7045 2 месяца назад

    Thank you, this was very helpful
    There are certain furnace golems that are under cliff sides, if you have hefty fire pots throw them into their fire, it does a lot of damage to them

    • @thepainphantom
      @thepainphantom 2 месяца назад

      Which one? Ice hefty?

    • @jasonheath7045
      @jasonheath7045 2 месяца назад +1

      @@thepainphantom I used the fire hefty

    • @thepainphantom
      @thepainphantom 2 месяца назад

      @@jasonheath7045 Thanks man! I will try it later.

  • @Alycanj
    @Alycanj Месяц назад

    staying calm is my problem lol, I do good for a while jumping but he always one shots torrent and then the whole thing is a crap show, ty for the slowed down guide

  • @NikkiSoul
    @NikkiSoul 2 месяца назад +5

    Theres one with iron in the legs that you can make him fall, i think It need to throw a fire granade or smth on the furnace, someone know something about It?

    • @bryanwithamask
      @bryanwithamask 2 месяца назад +1

      Throw the big cracked fire pots in the furnace. Does massive dmg

  • @Grunge_Cycling
    @Grunge_Cycling 2 месяца назад +3

    If you use Raptors of the Mist you don’t even need to stop swinging when he stomps 😂 Easy cheese

  • @nub1etol320
    @nub1etol320 2 месяца назад +2

    Two handed Godfrey axe break this thing poise for every 5 hit

  • @felixidanpaan-heikkila4145
    @felixidanpaan-heikkila4145 2 месяца назад

    Honorable mention as a summon to help is black knife tiche since his burn deals max hp dmg and also cuts it

  • @grahammeeson3692
    @grahammeeson3692 2 месяца назад

    Thanks for this man. Strat worled really well

  • @FROGGKINGG
    @FROGGKINGG 2 месяца назад

    Do NOT get on your horse. Stay off. Get a really good stance dmg weapon, like bloodfiend's arm, put cragblade on it with heavy affinity and use stonebarb cracked tear. Spam charged heavies and he'll get stance broken really quickly. You can easily stay behind him and dodge all the shockwaves on foot.

    • @pedrodufour529
      @pedrodufour529 2 месяца назад

      The first time..ok. But the hard part is the second time you have to stance him...thats takes much longer...

  • @saaaaaaaaalt838
    @saaaaaaaaalt838 2 месяца назад

    Man, I'm glad it doesn't actually require fire pots to beat. Just beat the dlc without bothering to kill any of these guys. There's a note that says pots do... something to them but I couldn't figure it out. I assume I need to throw them into the top but fuck knows how I do that. Promised myself I wouldn't look at guides till I was done with the dlc because I kinda ruined the base game for myself like that.

  • @caocaoholdingaplushie6022
    @caocaoholdingaplushie6022 2 месяца назад

    if you use ancient dragon lightnings strike, it does stupid damage to this enemy, like 10000 per charged attack at 323 incant scaling, this massively speeds up the time it take to stagger it

  • @SlickDangler10
    @SlickDangler10 2 месяца назад

    I think you can throw the furnace pots inside of him and destroy him once you stagger him and drop him down

  • @MrBigbaby65
    @MrBigbaby65 2 месяца назад

    I used the wing of astel +10
    So easy I could not believe it
    The trick is when he falls down don’t stop using the spell, about the time he gets back up, all of his health will be gone.

  • @lowdefinition4250
    @lowdefinition4250 2 месяца назад +1

    Yo thanks for the guide i started watching it while i was mid fight and died and the very next try i got him with your suggestions. Not an exaggeration at all. It did take ALL of my estus though, and torrent died 3 times :(

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      Oh nice!! Congrats! Nothing makes me happier than hearing my guides helped someone out. 👍🏻

  • @altaraeastral9288
    @altaraeastral9288 2 месяца назад

    Between attacks try to use the ancient dragon lightning incant between its legs, it stuns him pretty fast

  • @jurassicmark_4688
    @jurassicmark_4688 2 месяца назад +2

    Easy? Whatever. Edit: I stuck with the strategy, and got it the first time after my smart ass comment lol. For what it's worth I also used the summon, but I almost had him twice without the summon, so I'm not sure if it actually made a difference. Thanks for the guide.

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      It’s alright, I totally understand. Glad it worked out! 👍🏻

  • @BattleEye669
    @BattleEye669 2 месяца назад

    The funny thing about ng+ 7 is that he almost one hits you with any attack (and 60 vigor) lol. Even better: Most bosses have an absurd amount of health (80k +) and 2 hit you on top of being more agressive with their combos. It is quite the experience.

  • @chuteundface6414
    @chuteundface6414 2 месяца назад +1

    I love you for this!!!

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      Happy to hear it helped! :)

  • @jAk89701
    @jAk89701 2 месяца назад

    Once I got the rhythm down, it was a literal soldier of godrick moment
    Edit: all of them were a cakewalk

  • @DJWEJS
    @DJWEJS 2 месяца назад +1

    Beat him first try using your tips

  • @pipirisnaki
    @pipirisnaki 2 месяца назад

    Ty, just killed one of them on first try!!!

  • @Diaily
    @Diaily 2 месяца назад

    Note: save your "Furnace pot" for the armored ones and you have to throw it into the enemies open basked head.

  • @theloudginger
    @theloudginger 2 месяца назад +1

    Omg, another crystal sword bro!

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      You know it! 👊🏻

  • @kizaruthegreat
    @kizaruthegreat 2 месяца назад

    honestly people you don't even need the horse it's even easier without torrents tbh. just stand between his legs and focus 1 leg with heavy/jump attacks. you just need to learn the timing of jumping when he does the stomp. you hear the leg light up so the countdown begins don't even need to see the leg. if you stay between he keeps doing the stomps and almost nothing else. when the jump attack of him comes run away and jump when he lands. that is it. rinse and repeat.

    • @CC-iy3ko
      @CC-iy3ko 2 месяца назад

      He doesn't stomp at all for me, the only attack he does is the fireballs from up top, and it's a one shot everytime

  • @TheLightbane
    @TheLightbane 2 месяца назад +1

    Thank You

  • @wolvesbane1748
    @wolvesbane1748 2 месяца назад

    i figured this out on my own tbh but it took alot of dying to finally figure out his mechanic

  • @anastasiapolyak8763
    @anastasiapolyak8763 2 месяца назад +1

    You are just amazing!!!!

  • @DeKorpus
    @DeKorpus 2 месяца назад +1

    thank you

  • @devilechoecho2374
    @devilechoecho2374 2 месяца назад +2

    How do you beat armored legged giant? some of them have armor on their legs

    • @thepainphantom
      @thepainphantom 2 месяца назад

      Critical hits bro, stance breaking. Now the best AoW for stance-breaking is Spectral Spear (for spears, great spears, halberds). I just made a video of it if you still need it.

  • @deadby9am645
    @deadby9am645 2 месяца назад

    Can't unsee all the creatures and people stuffed and burnt inside its metal frame.... a literal horse stickin out of one of the legs. gives me the heebijeebees

    • @monkeyman4346
      @monkeyman4346 2 месяца назад

      theres a whole dragon stuffed in its furnace

  • @williamcorbett5342
    @williamcorbett5342 2 месяца назад

    I bet dagger talisman and lance talisman could help here a bit as well!

  • @lemmiwinks200
    @lemmiwinks200 2 месяца назад

    I completely forgot you can jump with torent when fighting these things💀.
    Too much darksouls has got to me

  • @Ronald-gu3ft
    @Ronald-gu3ft 2 месяца назад

    Don't bother with torrent, use the executioners greataxe with Prayerful Strike, ( to heal and big crit damage) use fire talisman and Flame Protect Me to take little damage. stay behind. Even the mimic keeps healing LOL. Easy peasy. Use cracked tear and defense tear to break stance.

  • @PoisonJarl71501
    @PoisonJarl71501 2 месяца назад +2

    Not sure what their obsession with feet is, but these and dragons and just the lamest fights in the game. Literally fighting feet the whole time. What a waste of a cool Design.

  • @jaydogg4life
    @jaydogg4life 2 месяца назад

    You are awesome dude thanks

  • @peterpetrelli9291
    @peterpetrelli9291 2 месяца назад +2

    These golem fights are really tedious, not fun at all

  • @jessejamison2508
    @jessejamison2508 2 месяца назад

    There is an easier way forget the horse just jump when does the fire stomp I figured that out today or you can call your horse as he stomps and you don’t get hurt!!!!

  • @Asian_Import
    @Asian_Import 2 месяца назад +1

    So weird that the actual way to kill them is to use fire pots. Fire on a fire enemy... why??

  • @JimXie
    @JimXie 2 месяца назад

    My fire golem is different. He sends fire that follows me

  • @tsemiu
    @tsemiu 2 месяца назад +1

    His stupid face was too high to crit when he finally fell 😡
    Edit: i just beat him 😊 THANK YOU!!

  • @Kermit-wt6lx
    @Kermit-wt6lx Месяц назад

    I had to kill this guy basically twice bc my game disconnected right after I did the first critical hit and had to restart but still a good guide bro👍

  • @king.paimon.666
    @king.paimon.666 2 месяца назад +3

    This is just a stupid, tedious fight.

  • @radachadman5998
    @radachadman5998 2 месяца назад

    Dont worey about dodging his feat they said, itll be fine they said
    Me:gets stomped out

  • @internetcitizen3224
    @internetcitizen3224 2 месяца назад

    IF YOU FAITH USER just spam ancient dragon lightning its melt this dude poise

  • @miserablebrian
    @miserablebrian 2 месяца назад

    How do you kill the one with the armored feet!? There no videos anywhere about that one!!

  • @mattstone4169
    @mattstone4169 2 месяца назад

    Good guide but you shouldn’t have survived at 3:45 and you know it 😂😂😂

  • @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp
    @JamesMacdonald-iu3gp 2 месяца назад

    Thanks!❤

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад

      You're welcome 😊

  • @yahav7818
    @yahav7818 2 месяца назад +1

    whip player here... guess im fkd

  • @Lu4ronusGaming
    @Lu4ronusGaming 2 месяца назад

    I did it, no torrent, with Giant crusher for those big stance breaks. Apply same guide but without torrent... call torrent only for the jump.

  • @Nin_the_Shinobi
    @Nin_the_Shinobi 2 месяца назад

    I wish these fights were fun. They're super annoying and tedious. Especially when they put them in areas that have uneven ground.

  • @yarugatyger1603
    @yarugatyger1603 2 месяца назад

    I attempted the fight a couple of times, but my game lags around him and I take his shockwaves cuz I don't jump in time because of the lag.

  • @Purifiedwater_
    @Purifiedwater_ 2 месяца назад

    There’s a golem by the cathedral that has amour on his legs I can’t even stagger it

  • @pachycephalosaur1619
    @pachycephalosaur1619 2 месяца назад

    Lmao I tried 3 separate times without doing any damage and have decided to run around and away from all of them instead

  • @joefuller3886
    @joefuller3886 2 месяца назад

    what is the item you get for killing rhese guys ?

  • @MrTmac2023
    @MrTmac2023 2 месяца назад +3

    thank you! i got him down!

    • @IEatGames
      @IEatGames  2 месяца назад +1

      YEEEA HAW!! Congrats!!

  • @nanomatakik8036
    @nanomatakik8036 2 месяца назад

    I just use mimic tear regen health build to take down this giant

  • @therandommusicguy4773
    @therandommusicguy4773 2 месяца назад

    i've been hitting him so much but he jsut doesn't fall. I'm so confused

  • @douglasamaya7733
    @douglasamaya7733 2 месяца назад

    What to do against the those that have armor on their legs?

  • @lukegill9970
    @lukegill9970 2 месяца назад

    That jump attack is horrible. They need to look into that