Why Music Producers are Failing
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- Опубликовано: 18 июн 2024
- There's a few reasons music producers fail to get the results they want. In this video we discuss the three biggest reasons, and how to fix them.
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Sometimes as music producers we're getting rejected from record labels, dealing with mental frustrations in ableton / Fl studio, or just having a tough time with Spotify. Our failure can sometimes be contributed to three specific reasons. This video explores the misconceptions of failure as a music producer, what really matters, and what doesn't.
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as long as you are having fun doing it, you didn't fail
depends what your in it for
Strewth! 😊
This
That is certainly a big part of it, but some of us do want to be able to generate some income from this. I drive uber as a 2nd job. I would much rather spend that time making music, but it has to generate some income for that to happen.
thats certainly true! its a subjective thing, why are you in production? If you want to make a living out of it, you need to be aware of whats hip now, and you need to be on point with socials and everything. For me, this is too much, i have a certain vision about playing music, mostly 90s/00s techno with new things that fit in. In sets im more looking for a certain groove or theme, but i wont get popular with this. That doesnt matter for me, because music is not my main income. If you have a passion for a certain style that isnt that popular but more in the underground, thats dedication to certain styles. In production, i also like the 90s/00s style more because of the less hard mastering, more dynamics, lofi, organic. This is also not popular atm. But its something i resonate with, so i do it this way. But if you want to make it in music, or become a big artist, well thats hard work i think, but you are also tied to what is popular at the moment.
I remember once seeing Claude VonStroke, show up in a video taking classes on Ableton live. He was already running some amazing shit while also sitting in a class with everyone else. That was SO INSPIRATIONAL to me! I love knowing that you can make the time and energy to never stop learning even at that level
You either fail once and quit or fail forward and find out if you can succeed... Failing means don't do it again... you are actually learning what not to do
Very true stuff, I do agree on that with you, and am trying myself to focus on multiple things at once, cannot just simply invest all in one thing, but honestly sometimes it rly tends to be overwhelming to do it all just by urself and not getting much feedback nor support where u rly need it, great video I do appreciate sharing your perspective and knowledge!
Great as always, Thanks Justin!!
What about someone like me? When you live in Iran, a dictatorship country in the 3rd world and music is somehow completely illegal especially electronic, rock, and .... No festivals, no clubs. Ruined currency which results in very hard for you to buy equipment and completely for a music producer there is no way to succeed but to leave this country because it doesn't have a future here. And for Iranian people immigration is also harder than other people from other countries. So how about that brother? 🙃
This is a great question, and one that is very probably not given the consideration it deserves. I wish I had an answer for you. Admittedly though, I have not given it much attention. You’ve definitely provided a veritable buffet table for thought. 😊👍🏻
@@tommyapocalypse6096 yeah, and lots of us music producers lose our hopes and motivations for our lives because music is our life. And somehow some may face suicide or arrested by government
That's a harsh reality that it's impossible to ackowledge with the privileges of the "first world". I'm impressed that popular music is illegal there. Assume that producing it is considered illegal, isn't it? The good part of it is that nowadays you don't need festivals or clubs to succeed, you can do it purely on the internet, the solution might be to hide your real identity and use vpns and things like that. Just guessing
Unfortunately, not everyone gets the same chances. Sometimes you have circumstances that just make it virtually impossible. However, where there is a will, there is a way. You have to take a step every day towards your goal. Maybe first you should focus on getting out of your country, if others have made it out of your country, how did they do it? It will be a much slower process than everyone else but if it’s what you really badly want, then go for it step by step even if it takes you 20 years it’s still possible. And trust me I’m not just trying to give you hope, this is coming from someone who’s parents escaped their country to make a better life as well.
@@grandpanda2791 hey brother, thanks a lot for all your words. Certainly for the goal of music that I have in my mind I should leave this country and for sure I will but you know the ways as you mentioned are also important. The country I want to immigrate in the first step is the USA and if they don't give me the VISA (although i hope they accept and give me 🥲) in the 2nd step I will immigrate to Canada, my aunt live in Toronto. You know even for immigration Iranians have lots of sanctions especially from the US, because the USA gives Iranians VISA very hard and sometimes you will never get accepted because of the challenges between our government and their government, because of a powerful and big group in our country which is held by our government which did some terroristic attacks in mideast, USA consider Iranians as terrorist and because our f*cking government they give us visa very hard for immigration. All of our people, almost 90% are against our government nowadays and we have struggles and fights in the streets everyday and they arrest us with very harsh acts and then they put you in the van and they will borrow you to nowhere which sometimes they even give back the corpses to their families. Especially our women, I don't know if you heard anything about the protests and movements which started 2 years ago after they killed a young girl in a police station by smashing her head because she just wanted freedom of appearance. Idk man, I should really just say the hell on earth at least in this era of Iran. I don't know where you are from dude, but if you are from the US can you guide me with some immigration ways of it, I also have some relatives there maybe they can help me come there, I mean I don't know if I can come there by invitation because they are citizens of US now, the uncle of my mom he left Iran 50 years ago and went to US.
The number 2 reason is sooo relatable rn. Its sad to see both Pros and also amateurs doing the same old shit everyone is doing by forgetting their true talent and calling it "doing something new" or "experimentation". One can also experiment and evolve their true roots, the way artists like Hardwell and Martin Garrix did. You can argue saying Martijn still makes Progressive House, believe me he somehow manages to make it sound fresh and unique unlike most Prog. House producers these days. His last song for example has more use of instruments than the typical detuned saw leads and stuff.
So much true Justin! And all of those 3 come from HARD WORK! Learning, networking, practicing, ... Let's keep grinding!
needed this, ty
Thanks for the awesome advice!
Thank you Justin. This is gold
True af… Looking fwd to more of ya content, helping me to learn more…
thanks i neeeded this today
I just had an interesting conversation with one of my friends how my online presentation of my "character" feels to him. It really woke me up in the following aspect: How I, my ego, sees my projects and work doesn't necessarily mean that my audience sees them in the same way. Now: I can go on and explain myself and the meaning behind everything or I can listen and use the feedback to find new ways to better my "artistic" communication. I don't know if it makes sense reading. It makes at least sense for me. So: Thanks for the video and your words. Have my like for now. Nice channel. ❤
ever since covid way too many people have gotten into music production and generally the audio community is pretty snobby so not an industry im interested in working in.
"Thats an ad" - Jimmy Valmer
Great video man! 🙏🏻 And thanks for using my song "Butterfly" as the background music starting at 4:44 🦋
Great job bro
His speech resembles the talks in Stoic videos. Good talk bro 🥂
I’ve literally just started to get into production as I want to record my debut album “Who The Hell Am I?” And I can confidently say, I’m a 0 at everything 😂
As has been said, if you are having fun - and I’ll add - and making/producing music that you enjoy listening to, you have in no way “failed”. This thing we do is primarily an art - not a strictly commercial endeavor. And though we use technology, what comes out from our efforts is still art. It’s not all about the moolah, or the fame, or any of that fleeting stuff. The success lies in knowing that we have created a work of art which will most likely outlive ourselves. And that is success in its purest form.
Amazing content
Thanks a lot
Devid Guetta has been a good producer since his 20s. So he's not a student at 56 years old. Let's be realistic here, but the bottom line is you can do it.
This woke me up a little bit
Ikr. Same for me ❤
Crazy to think the pros are at lvl 8-9, really puts things into perspective lol 😅
Could you guys give us top 5 most efficient ways to learn more of the stuff, some resources that you'd recommend besides Cosmic?
Reputable artists song-breakdowns, tutorials, some books, courses? All of them I suppose 😆
Love the video! -Valde
Buy their course is the point of this yo. Nothing more. Maybe he’ll see this and respond but I’m willing to bet you even asking struck his Ego that’s blinding us all.
Most crazy thing i learned in my college is my professor worked for live events like Coachella and big ones in LA , he worked for post malone, iggy azela, big artists and he didnt even need a college degree for it. He said you will be hired if you make the right connections and if you just know how to make music
Thank you Justin ❤ when u coming back to Harvard?
Moby produced his first album in a one-room apartment. but I also know what it is like. I always struggle and want to give up. I think poorly of myself and always tell myself that I can do this.
this makes it look like success in music has some logic or formular behind.. which is not true at all
There is indeed a formula to see "success" in music. 🤷♂️
My goal is just to build a monster catalog I don’t care for anything else.
Luck it’s all about luck and little bit of skills …Dj Khaled and many like him can vouch for this…
Im finding it hard, ive signed with smaller labels and one of the biggest in my genre listens to my demos on average 2-3 plays however never hear never heard back from thek 😂
You Fail if you do not Love Music.
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How about the one who deeply stuck into burden of house loan because of their family and he left the music even he lost his creativity due to loan and family business
504 seconds of ad? wtf
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You have to be good and unique for starters. Then you have to shamelessly promote the hell out of yourself and hope you catch the right people's ear. If you are really talented, you should be able to get popular in your home town. If you can't win over your own home town then that's a sign you're just not that great.
am here to tell me my ratings and i will go back here after 2 years. wish me luck
compression : 3
Eq : 7
Sound Design : 5
Vocal : 4
Mixing : 6
Mastering : 4.5
Like so i wont forgot
They're failing because the music is just not good enough to justify trying to fit into scenes (musically or aesthetically or whatever you want). Sooner or later things will improve
this is the true reason why
music producers don't fail, they either continue producing or they just stop. no winning or failing to it :) nice video though
Modern computer setups destroy creativity, and makes you too comfortable. It feels good when using them, too good.
ok unc ur to old for this
@@snisterclls You all will fail.
It hasn’t destroyed mine. On the contrary, it has actually helped my creativity and output. And I don’t produce yer typical “computer based” music. I’m an indie rock, synth-pop and reggae musician and producer.
Okay, maybe synth-pop can be classified as more computer based, but… well, you know. 😁
@@tommyapocalypse6096 Just wait for it. The best ideas usually appear when away from machines. Just sitting down and creating magic at a screen will not work for long. There is a wall.