"The matchup's not winnable" - Best Vanguard Player in Stormgate Beta

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • Azure (Infernals) faced off against Probe (Vanguard) in this Stormgate Beta (Devastator build) show match cast by PiG and Jardozer.
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Комментарии • 48

  • @PiGCastsTwo
    @PiGCastsTwo  8 месяцев назад +25

    The balance isn't really a priority for the devs right now in this early stage and they're just trying to make the game run super responsively and be a lot of FUN to play. That being said Steam nextfest is coming up this week where anyone can play, all on a completely new build where I can't wait to see what madness the games bring - hope to see you all on the ladder there!

    • @mohastgridlock
      @mohastgridlock 8 месяцев назад +2

      Seems odd to have a clickbait title and then reiterate in the comments that it's sensationalist bs.

    • @KidsandDrugs
      @KidsandDrugs 8 месяцев назад +3

      @@mohastgridlock The match-up is is not balanced. You can ask anyone that has played, Infernal has too many mechanics and are overtuned in general. Of the top 15 players, 11 are Infernal right now.

    • @NiJShiv
      @NiJShiv 8 месяцев назад

      Isn’t this the exact sort of click baity title they implies imbalance and negativity that frost giant is trying to avoid?

    • @TremereTT
      @TremereTT 8 месяцев назад

      He built nothing but cars.

    • @PiGCastsTwo
      @PiGCastsTwo  8 месяцев назад +2

      @@mohastgridlock It's literally super imbalanced. The comment adds context I didn't get a chance to talk about in the cast. I expect a lot more super broken, silly and ridiculous units and metas throughout the next months of development and I personally find it very interesting to document them here. If I mislead you somehow please explain

  • @Smelly13
    @Smelly13 8 месяцев назад +7

    you gotta give it to the creators; The game is already being streamed and followed en masse, and it's only in beta stage.

  • @TaleDreamer
    @TaleDreamer 7 месяцев назад

    Infernals can keep unit charges in their buildings and spawn units almost instantly, so it's Zerg with the production capabilities of Protoss with warp gate upgrade AND "free" units from infestation. Not 100% sure where the devs are going with that.

  • @Manderson0228
    @Manderson0228 8 месяцев назад +16

    I hate to agree... but it does seem that Infernal is quite over tuned at the moment... or perhaps vanguard is undertuned... could be both... either way... too early to really complain about balance, it will continue to get better with more and more games.

    • @TotalStoicism
      @TotalStoicism 8 месяцев назад +4

      There's going to be balance changes literally in a couple of days

    • @jackmccarthy7644
      @jackmccarthy7644 8 месяцев назад

      There's no real difference between one being overtuned and one being undertuned. What matters is only that they are equal. There is no absolute power level, only power relative to the other faction.

    • @RadicalGamingGuy
      @RadicalGamingGuy 8 месяцев назад

      new patch for next play test allows fiends to not lose hp when off "creep" which is even more insane.

  • @avocadoarmadillo7031
    @avocadoarmadillo7031 8 месяцев назад

    Looks like a good RTS! SC/SC2 had an ideal formula for RTS games imo, and this looks like it iterates off of it beautifully.

  • @motoboy6666
    @motoboy6666 8 месяцев назад +1

    I think the hard shadows of the units are interfering with the overall vision and clarity

  • @Mirizlqk
    @Mirizlqk 7 месяцев назад

    I don't think it's unwinnable. Vanguard lancers and the shooting unit make minced meat out of this.

  • @Smelly13
    @Smelly13 8 месяцев назад +1

    The fiends gotta lose hp over time though for sure

  • @Terracronz
    @Terracronz 8 месяцев назад

    surprised the vanguard players arent also guarding the 2 chokes

  • @slavicsoup7762
    @slavicsoup7762 8 месяцев назад +9

    Really hope more units are added eventually. Compared to Zerospace and even Immortal Gates of Pyre, Stormgate gameplay just seems so linear and 1 dimensional with the lack of units. Every game is the same. Fiend across the map, hedgehog follow up from the Vanguard, then Brutes from infernals. The other 2 RTSes in development have fixed this issue by implementing either mercenary factions or subfactions. Stormgate hasn't really made any strides in this area.

    • @florianspieleder2251
      @florianspieleder2251 8 месяцев назад +3

      Currently there are only tier 1 and 2 units available, while tier 3 units for each faction are already confirmed (and will probably be released with the next update in 4 days). Also there will be a new Coop-commander, who has a few new units. Subfactions will definitively be added, but I don`t know if this includes competitive 1v1 (probably not)

    • @gabrielribeiro222
      @gabrielribeiro222 8 месяцев назад +6

      Subfactions are confirmed for a 3v3 mode they have anounced

    • @slavicsoup7762
      @slavicsoup7762 8 месяцев назад

      I hope they change this to competitive 1v1 too, or balance said factions for the game mode obv@@gabrielribeiro222

    • @Garlonk
      @Garlonk 8 месяцев назад +2

      For some reason the devs want the game to have fewer units than sc2. meanwhile dota2 and LoL have 100+ heroes with tons of different items and abilities. They are completely missing the mark on this part of the design. The game will have a great engine but no depth.

    • @lionbreaker0852
      @lionbreaker0852 8 месяцев назад

      @@gabrielribeiro222 From what I understand, the 3v3 factions will be the same as those used in coop, this means heroes in 3v3. I could be wrong about that, but i'm pretty certain i heard it somewhere

  • @33LB
    @33LB 8 месяцев назад

    mass zergling cheese... just like SC2

  • @user-wz4bo3br7n
    @user-wz4bo3br7n 8 месяцев назад +1

    If you think that version was bad for terran you aint seen nothin yet... :P

  • @matheusbawden8678
    @matheusbawden8678 8 месяцев назад +2

    sonic is a hedgehog and is fast...

    • @PiGCastsTwo
      @PiGCastsTwo  8 месяцев назад +3

      OH DAMN that must be it haha!

  • @interwal1547
    @interwal1547 8 месяцев назад

    🎉is it on new balance?

  • @StormgateModForge
    @StormgateModForge 8 месяцев назад

    Letss gooo

  • @Erictraiven
    @Erictraiven 8 месяцев назад

    Is this with the new patch?

    • @PiGCastsTwo
      @PiGCastsTwo  8 месяцев назад

      nope, I'll be doing a livestream on the new patch on sunday morning 09:00 Central european time, sunday evening 7pm Australian eastern time, - some ungodly hour like 4am? in the US

    • @Erictraiven
      @Erictraiven 8 месяцев назад

      @@PiGCastsTwo this sunday already?

  • @haloforgeguy453
    @haloforgeguy453 8 месяцев назад

    Skill issue

  • @alexu9696
    @alexu9696 8 месяцев назад +5

    Im afraid this Terran losers will complain in stormgate and ruin the game like they did in sc2

  • @Boots43096
    @Boots43096 8 месяцев назад

    bob overcharge looks stupidly OP, the fact that you can hold off harass at your bases with bobs ALONE is pretty cringe

    • @dekumutant
      @dekumutant 8 месяцев назад +1

      Did we watch the same video? It works once for a few dudes. If your are competent you can just wear the oppoment down or attack another base

  • @eNoqfOu
    @eNoqfOu 8 месяцев назад +3

    This is like a Terran complaining Zerg is op when the Zerg masses lings and gets a successful ling runby to the mineral line in all 3 of your bases, this is a player skill issue.

    • @Diminisherqc
      @Diminisherqc 8 месяцев назад +1

      yes , because that sentiment only comes from this games and not the whole beta .,,, lmao delulu

    • @eNoqfOu
      @eNoqfOu 8 месяцев назад +2

      @@DiminisherqcI'm specifically talking about a fiend runby that could've been prevented with proper simcity, dumbie.

    • @KidsandDrugs
      @KidsandDrugs 8 месяцев назад

      Of the top 15 players right now, 11 are Infernal.

    • @eNoqfOu
      @eNoqfOu 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@KidsandDrugsThat has nothing to do with stopping fiend runby's

    • @secdeal
      @secdeal 8 месяцев назад +2

      I watched about 20 non mirror matches of this game on youtube and only seen Vanguard win once.