I USED THE SAME EOS LENS ON DIGITAL AND FILM. CAN YOU TELL THE DIFFERENCE? CANON EOS 3000N IS...
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2023
- A friend of mine recently sent me a superb Canon 3000N to play with. Never owning a Canon EOS Film camera
Before I was excited to try my Canon EF Lenses on film. Especialy my 70-200 L Series Lens.
I then wondered, with the same lens, how Delta 100 compared to my Canon 6D.
Same Lens, Same Scene, Same Light.
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CAMERA - Canon 6D, Canon 3000N
LENS - L Series 70-200, 24-105. Kit Lens 28 - 80.
FILM - Ilford Delta 100
DEVELOPER - D23 1 part 1.
ENLARGER - DURST M605
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I really feel we need to stage a bovine intervention of some kind. They really are gentle creatures - honest! 😁
Really interesting, thanks for taking the time to make a good, clear comparison.
This is a wonderful camera. I have been photographing the midnight using the multiple exposure function. It works well!
I love these cameras, and glad i found one early on in when getting into film 👌
These EOS film cameras are great because they're usually quite cheap and take EF lenses which are still being made. Also operating them is familiar if you're used to a Canon DSLR. I've got a EOS 300v myself that I really like.
I have the Eos 1000f - nice and light as well. They are great little cameras
"frosty button" is for exposure lock (AE lock) if I remember well form my EOS 550D.
So instead of using the exposure compensation wheel for backlit subject, you point where you want your meter reading for exposure, click the "frosty button", recompose your frame, then release shutter.
Ahh, nice thanks
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss i use Sony lens 50mm 1.4 on my minolta cameras. Its a satisfying feeling know they compatible. And works hella good
Do you have to hold it down or does it time out? I can't remember (because I never use it unless I press it by mistake.)
@@ZommBleed I can't remember, I sold the camera so I can't check. I think you can change the button behaviour in the settings menu.
@@stratocactus 👍
The little snowflake button is for your AE lock, FE lock/ custom function settings button
2 cows having a face off 😂 Those cows were messing with you! Good fun, Boss! Oh and those Zeiss 50mm shots are gorgeous
Really lovely video. For the next comparison made a enlarger print and an digital print from a lab/digital printer
I have a 3000 (all black) that I bought in the late 90's and I still use it a lot today. When I need to photograph something that requires more speed and less concern, it's the camera I use, just put it in AV, choose an aperture and that's it.
Hugs from Portugal
Super comparison, Thank you, I also have a Kenon 6d and a Canon 300 (not 3000n) in combination with a BP-200 handle, I bought it back in 1999 and photographed a lot of weddings, the gray color came off in many places, but it never let me down, although very plastic, works great with my 70-200 and 24-70 lenses. But then, complete with 28-90 and 420 flash, I had to pay $700, I bought the vertical handle separately for $40
but the lens didn’t last long (the cable flew off), and I bought 28-105/3.5-4.5 for it. I shot with it until 2006, then I switched to 20D, then the digital was something new))))
I have an EOS 620 that I absolutely love shooting on with a Pentax Super Takumar 50 f1.8 or my L glass if I feel like taking the extra weight (not often)
I have the EOS 3 film camera which I use for all personal work. Such great lenses, the EF ones.
I use this camera for travel / street photography, with the 40mm f2.8 stm lens. Very sharp images from a really lightweight setup, and not too expensive.
Is that the pancake lens? I have that flat 2.8 40mm in white. It's really an awesome lens. Gives serious competition to the 50mm and 35 mm counterparts. It's really a sweet spot for street and other outdoor or public/indoor shooting. It's really becoming a favorite of mine. I keep it on my 5D Mk1 and usually select it for any EOS non-telephoto shooting I do.
@@ZommBleed Yeh it’s a pancake lens. I also use it with my 5D mk1, although I’m mainly a film photographer, sometimes I pair it with the EOS 85mm f1.8, another really good performer.
These cheap cameras are often overlooked, but actually are a great way to get into film on a budget. I got a mint Canon T2 with a kit 28-90mm lens for something like USD 90 and I absolutely love it. One of the portraits of my wife that I love the most I took it with that combo and Color Plus 200. Pair it with a Canon 40mm pancake lens (around USD 100 used) or a brand new Canon 50mm f1.8 STM (USD 125) and you have got a very capable lightweight combo that is almost like a point and shoot but even more capable. Although I have other “pro” cameras such as Mamiya 645 and others, this little one is the one I grab most of the time when I go out for something else and just want to bring a camera along with me to have fun.
My favorite EOS film camera!
I have a pair of EOS 600 (the first EOS cameras introduced circa 1987) which I bought last year for £15 each to shoot film, one for colour and one for B&W, as I tend to take days to finish one roll. I also have an EOS 1n which I really love. It Gives me a nice break from shooting digital street photography on my 6D... Noyce!
Like Jeroen Vreuls, I also have an EOS 300V. I bought one from my sorely missed Jessops back in 2004 to take to Italy. What fantastic results I got. Then due to the ever forward march of digital I part exchanged it for the EOS 300d. Four digital models later I fancied trying film again. My local photoshop owner was retiring and closing down his business and happened to have some 300Vs brand new in their cellophane wrapped boxes which he purchased in 2003 thinking they would be big sellers (damned digital). He sold me mine for £100. I understood that the 300V was the last SLR that Canon produced. I was misled. Last year I came across an EOS 300x. This camera is basically the same as the 300V except that it has some extra features such as 6 customised functions and AF One shot, AI Focus and AI servo. In fact its specs are more or less the same as the digital 300d that replaced it. I also purchased it for £100. The 300x is quite rare, but the 300V can be bought for as little as £30. If you can get a decent one you will be rewarded with some great photos. However, the 28-80mm kit lens is not great and so using better EF lenses as mentioned will return the best results. As SFLB says, these film cameras are very plascticky, but all manufacturers of that period were producing similar stuff.
I started off with a very similar camera. The EOS 500. I used it for about a year before finding an EOS 5 and so I handed my EOS 500 to my partner to learn to shoot film on. Very light weight, simple and gets the job done. A jack of all trades but master of none.
I still shoot a roll (or 2) at BSB events with 500mmf4 and get great results. I use EOS 3 camera and it is sweet as was when i got it new. even went arounf the paddock with AE1 progam at Silverstone :)
Nice!👍
I'm a long standing champion of the EOS film cameras, they are so good for the priced nowadays. I've bought and given away well over a dozen, but I still hold on to 4 or 5, from a 1v to a Rebel Kiss. Great video mate, really enjoy hearing your views on everything. Cheers.
Thanks. I've never understood the Rebel thing. It's what they call the cameras in the US. Like the Canon EOS 550D is Rebal T2i in US.
Yes Roger, strangely canon decided that calling the EOS Rebel in the states would appeal to that market.
Hi Roger! That´s a very interesting & insightful comparison! I´ve recently picked up a Canon EOS 500 with kit lense for just 20 Euro at a flea market (bought it for a buddy who is sick of digital photos from his smartphone and wants to use this EOS 500 for travel photography). He´s a newbie to analog photography. I´m gonna recommend your channel for him to watch & learn,
cheers!
Cheers Gabriel 👍
Have had a 3000N for quite a few years, now. I like it as well😊 Takes great pics with just the 28-80 kit lens, though I do have a few more lenses I can use with it. Goes really well with the Canon nifty 50, too.
Yes I found the Kit lens pretty good!
Prime lenses are nuts, even the 50mm seems really crisp.
Love my plastic EOS film cameras. They always give great results, and you won’t lose any sleep if you drop one.
Interesting to see the difference in tones across the grass in the digital. I assume because you're shooting RAW, and able to separate out the colours a little easier, where the film would require colour filters for the same sort of nuances to show.
I imagine that is beautifully wide.
I have a Nikkor 43-86 lens I got for my Nikon EM film cam that use on my dslr, although at something like 16 years old I think my Nikon D70 is a vintage camera now. Do have to shoot in full manual for it to work tho
6.1 megapixel camera. I imagine it still produces lovely images.
My favorite of the last few years of EOS film cameras is the very last one--the Rebel T2 (EOS 300X). It's very high spec. Canon threw in the works, and it's so tiny and light I grab it when I wouldn't take another SLR. I often end up leaving my 1N, EOS 7s, and EOS 3 behind because the T2 is so great. Easy to find under $50 if you keep your eyes open.
i bought a bunch of them canon slr two years ago. 25€ for 3 eos 500 and 1 eos 3000 in perfect conditions and working perfectly with my canon lenses. now i'd like to try them with really really good glass too to enlarge those in the darkroom !
That was a bargain!
The cows can smell your fear Boss... You gotta show them who's the Boss lol... Great video just what I needed on a quiet Sunday afternoon...
Puff my chest out like a pigeon and flap my arms is what I been told to do!
Yea pretty much if you charge at them like a predator they will bolt there really... in reality there just a very curious creature is all if you held out a clump of grass they would just eat it ... however never turn your back on them lol good luck
In 35mm I to have a collection of good EF glass so when I bought my R6 it was nice to see it all work, via adapter, of it meaning i did not need to spend on RF glass. It is also cool that all my EF L glass works on my EOS 1v HS 35mm film camera.
Yes Dave I have seen those adapters for the mirrors R cameras. Last thing you want to do is upgrade all your lenses
rogder I have a 300n. got for a fiver. use it every now and then. like you have some lovely l glass. my fave being my 70 200 f2.8l usm. ( non is)
Now that is a bargain!
I often use my film lenses on my digital cameras. I have a canon FD 24mm 2.8 that I use on my Leica M240 and I really love the look of the photos. It isn't even an L lens but still very lovely. I also use my leica film lenses on my Leica digital. I tried them on my Sony A7RIII but I didn't like the look there. However, some of the old Zeiss Jena and the Helios 50mm look great on the Sony also. However, I am not a believer that every pixel when blown up 200x needs to be pin sharp. I think a softer look can be really nice at times. As always I love the videos that you put out. Enthusiasm for photography is in each frame.
I have also but mostly in video mode. I have a M42 adapter and a Nikon to Canon adapter. I have a paragon I think it's called, 500mm lens. On video it's stunning. Not so good on a still for some reason. I get that chromatic edge problem
I think there was a option in the f5 nikon menu that could advance film the same way. Nice fun video, I do enjoy playing the film or digital game. I got them all wrong 😂
I have F5, but I didn’t know there was such a function, I need to figure it out. I know for sure that there is a function when the device is turned on, charging automatically after closing the back cover, there is a function after the 35th and 36th frames have elapsed, but only in Canon I saw the reverse advance of the film into the cassette with the captured frames, which is very convenient to know the exact number of remaining ones, especially if You load cassettes with film yourself from a roll
I think A-DEP was for Auto Depth-Of-Field. You would focus on the closest object and furthest object you want in focus and it would work out the needed settings.
I had an EOS 3 with that feature but never really used it, seemed gimmicky to me.
Ahhh, that makes sense. Cheers.
Depth-of-Field Auto Exposure.
Frame the foreground, then half-press the shutter button;
Frame the background, then half-press the shutter button;
Then frame the composition(subject), press shutter release button.
This is the procedure for EOS 1 as the manual says (paraphrased).
It doesn't work with the flash.
Tengo una Nikon N75 con el 50 1.8 y me encanta disparar con ella, más un Sigma 28-105... ya a esta edad me interesa más el autofocus que las manuales, mi visión ya no es lo que era... Saludos
Sigmas are good lenses these days!
There is one problem you would have with the exposed shots being wound into the cassette - it is very difficult to cut film out if you want to process only part of it.
I bought this camera whilst on holiday in Florence back in 2003 as my A1 had lost it's winding knob. I actually got 2 kit lenses and small shoulder bag. I was really pleased with what it produced for what was then a budget camera. It was also my first experience of auto focus which , with my eyesight just starting to go into "old man " mode, manual focus was becoming a bit of a challenge. The kit lenses did suffer from Chromatic aberation, but otherwise great purchase.
I guessed that kit lens would suffer that on certain areas in colour. I was impressed with the whole kit though. Fun camera to shoot adding EF glass. Focusing is pretty quick too
My kit lens of the Canon EOS 3000 fell from a wall 2 meters or so. But because it was so light it swirled down. It wasn't broken after. So being light has another advantage.
One of my cheaper Nikons from around the same time (also that ugly silver!) does the same film wind method. Not a bad camera though. Very easy to use!
Cameras like this seem worth grabbing, if you have the lens system already. These plastic autofocus SLRs are far cheaper than the metal manual ones. I got my Pentax PZ20 for $15 or so, about the cost of a new battery. A good K1000 usually costs ten times that. I can mount the FA lenses which I already owned for my digital Pentax, and have the fun of film. If you have some EOS lenses, even just the nifty fifty, one of these plastic film SLRs can be a lot of fun.
The kit lens was actually very good I thought
Interesting comparisons. Oddly as it sounds but looking at the images side by side, the one with the kit lens looked sharper than the L but one would have too have the images in hand to make a more better comparison!
The L series lens looks a bit more contrasty.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Yes, when I switched to Nikon, my camera came with a 18-140mm kit lens. Of which was good at first, later started having issues with moire and then it wouldn't focus at all and I ended up getting one that was a pro quality like Canon's L series. It's much more sharper and very little moire. Probably due too the multiple lens coatings.
The cheaper EOS film bodies did that with the film. The higher end ones are the more normal way - advancing the film as you shoot. I have an EOS 3 film body which is a beauty. I use it along side my EOS 6D mk 2.
These late 90s early 2000s consumer SLRs are the best bang for the buck for film cameras, body only you can get them as cheap as $20 dollars over here in Mexico, and you can (usually) adapt older lenses, so what is not to love
I prefer my Elan 7E. Very solid camera, professional enough and easy to use. Also has Eye AF to focus on what you want to focus on. 1/4000th shutter and fast enough FPS.
I've never heard of that one Nand. Look like it has more functions.
I used to have the EOS 3000N back in 2005 and it was my first Canon SLR. But i quickly realized that it really wasn't the kind of Camera for me that i could get be comfortable with. The viewfinder was just too small and too dim, it relied too much on these special type of batteries that are so hard to come by and expensive. I did however love that it started with the last frame of a roll of film and pulled the film back in picture by picture which i felt super convenient and safe from accidental over exposure in case of opening the back. I only had the Kitlense for it and didn't use anything else really. Felt the picture quality was pretty darn good but it kinda felt a little too sharp for me. I gave the camera to my best buddy who took amazing photos with it and seemed to have had been a lot more compatible with the camera than i did.
At least it went someone doing good things with it. I didn't find the viewfinder bad at all. The batteries are easy to get here but they are expensive at £10 a pair. So far the batteries have lasted a few rolls even with IS lenses.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss 10 quid a pair? Wow. Over here in Germany you pay this much in euros for just ONE. xD
I remember when i bought mine in store and asked the retailman "do you have one in black too?" and he said "well no unless you use a black sharpy and repaint it" xDD It was either THIS model or a Minolta. Both did cost about the same and i wasn't sure if i wanted to go into the Minolta Lens eco system so i opted for the Canon. Yeah, that Minolta was also Silver. I think both went for around 180 Euros back then. Was my first and last SLR i bought factory new in a store. And i bought it a few days before the Live 8 Event in summer of 2005, intending to take it there with me because at that time my ONLY other SLR was an Exa 1b with a Pentacon 50mm f1.8 lens, which i would not wanna take to such a big crowded place and i also didn't have many focal lengths to chose from anyway but just this one lens. I shot 3 films that day and switching the filmstock in between was such a nice hassle-free experience. Got some nasty sunburn on one half of my face that day but that was worth it. Loved that it was really lightweight to carry around as well. However i never bought any EF lenses for it as i simply could not justify the prices and vintage prime lenses felt more affordable for my wallet. So at one point i went with M42 and K-Mount lenses instead and i still do till this day. Focusing with this thing was damn near impossible because the groundglass had absolutely NO focusing help at all. No split image, no microprism ring, NOTHING. Just black markings for framing but that was it. it was so dim and so small you really saw yourself using autofocus most of the time. Viewfinder is just as dark as the one of most Super 8 filmcameras. Even worse actually. I think the ice symbol button was a momentary switch for certain functions to lock them for as long as the button was pressed if i remember correctly. Like Switching between Shutterspeed and Aperture, when using M mode. Always loved the DX detection for filmspeeds. Never had to set it manually. The eyepiece also sadly broke at one point and didn't clip in properly as the little tiny fragile plastic hooks broke at one point.
My view finder cup is also easy to flip off! Nice story!
Intrigued by the film loading. I've never seen that in a 35 mm camera, but I'm pretty sure that APS cameras did this. Perhaps that's where they got the idea?
Just been testing my late cousin's Olympus OM 2000* that had been sitting unused for years and scanning the film as I watched your video. I normally shoot film on a Nikon F80 or F100. Great cameras.
* Yes, I know it's a rebadged Cosina, but it's a lovely compact little camera that feels great in the hand and I just love the sound of the shutter! 🙂Manual everything...
I've never seen a OM 2000. Looks like they hold their price well!
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Interestingly the Nikon FM10 is also based on the Cosina CT1 chassis. I nearly bought one with a kit lens for NZ$35, but my wife will probably throw me out if I get any more cameras!
I love the Canon T60, which is another of the Cosina bodies. It's the only FD camera that lets you have both an auto mode (aperture preferred) and match-LED manual.
There's also a rare Nikon FE10 model
6:47 for some sake all the cheaper models of the area have this feature. My 500N does it as well. My 33V not.
I be frank, I've been sticking to Canon as I could (re-) use my EF lenses on both my analog and digital SLRs. In the late 90s and early 2000 IS, particularly on prime lenses, was not or hardly available and came with a hefty premium. IS is handy as so many film speeds are below 100. I really loved the fact that there was a backwards compatibility until a couple of years ago. The introduction of the RF-mount puts me in a dilemma.
I've never done a comparison with IS lenses. Something I want to do. IS vs IS OFF and tripod. I've always wondered if the IS lenses, although illuminating shake, would beat a tripod
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Give it a try. You can easily do hand-held black and white IR photography on a very sunny day with a fast IS prime lens.
I guess it's a nice feature for people that habitually open the back. Minolta solved that issue (at least on my Maxxum 5) by locking the door unless you press rewind first.
One of the big benefits of these cameras is you can shoot modern lenses with image stabilisation so during a gloomy British summer or winter time you're not so restricted with shooting lower ISO films. Canon has a great range of EF primes and zooms with IS.
I love those EOS cameras cause I can use my modern lenses
It's not any silver, it's champagne silver, luxury. Those old canon eos's are surprisingly good value.
Oof. That 28-80 - got one from a film camera kit and tried it on my digital. Awful performance.
Also I just noticed Borut Peterlin is a Patron of yours. I just discovered his channel a few months ago. Small world!
Xpan work the same way. The exposed framed are covered in a canister…
I loved my Canon ef 70-200 f2.8. I had to sell mine 8 years ago to get meds for my mom who had dementia. I'll never be able to afford another. Even used. But mom's medz took priority at the time.
Family before anything material. Wishing you the best.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Thanks Mate! You are so right. Have a great week.
Canon L lenses work well on Canon EOS film cameras. I use mine with my EOS 5. The best thing is that the VR also works. Haing said all that, this weekend I got a Leica M to MFT adapter. I mounted my Leica 75mm F2 APO-Summicron on my EM1 MKII in full manual mode, and did a few test shots. Breathtaking is not the word. I just could not believe how sharp that Leica lens is wide open at F2. Once I set the lens FL in the menu manually, even the IBIS worked properly. Joy. I have a couple of special projects in mind, and I will keep that combo for them. If one forgets the £3500.00 price tag for the Leica lens, this is a ' cheap ' Leic-Oly digital solution.
Leica lenses are something else! The Summilux 28mm on my Q2 Mono is awesome. It's fixed. I was turning the VR off on the lens most of the time in fear of it draining the batteries.
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Considering how much the 28 mm cost, Leica is giving the camera for free. If it fits your shooting style, it is an amazing tool.
I've a plastic fantastic canon EOS 300 and for just a quick and light grab and go camera it's great plus cost me £20 on fleabay so if i drop it not a big loss. Plus the lens for my digital fit it grand and vice versa. Got some great results from it too. Mind those vicious cows, just remind them who's going to eat who.
Plastic Fantastic. Like that
Is it possible tu use the shutter release cable on the 3000N?
There is a small hole for a shutter cable. Probably a dedicated one to that camera. With 30s exposure on the camera I doubt I'll ever need a cable release or go into bulb
Oh yes.. I've just found it. It's no hard to find it because it is usable on some digital model.
Something I observed was that film does not vignette as much
Just shows you that L glass is really great whether on digital or film. Canon L glass is some of the best made.
That 70-200 does produce stunning images
hello, you should take pictures of the cows 😀
Need to do a 'Beards & Coffee' podcast. Give David Hancock some competition with his 'Cameras & Coffee' cast. Heh heh heh. You can tell him I said that.😂
Nearlly came off today! Itching like mad. Just a short trim! LOL
Roger are you doing any digging and burning with the film if so it is really not a fair comparison.
No rick.
Those cows won’t hurt ya hahaha
Liked the video, but mate.. it’s just a cow..! They won’t hurt you.
LOL. It's when they run over to you
Uh everything he jus said made a ton of sense odd Americans make no sense yet I live here. Great job on explaining your thoughts and views of the film. I personally luv film cuz to me it captures live in its pure form. I did 2 weddings and they loved my work. Just pissing about photos even got some pictures of people who were grumpy. Anyhow the digital tends to be a bit more clear than film after the shot is taken. Digital feels empty hollow. Film has this interesting what you see is what you get. No Fancy computer footwork to make the image clearer or allow photo shop. The film is unique in its own way an art form that never comes out the same from one photo to the next. Yea you can do lens covers to create an even more unique affects. But that's what makes film that different its a use wat you got situation and make the best of it. Plus batteries are a bit expensive especially if it's a digital. Digital are a bit more priced than film and I was raised always be sure to have a backup or 2 or so. Just in case one fails you always have a spare at the ready. Yea I'll buy a DSLR some day wen I can afford a used one. I have 3 SLR cameras all film need batteries for 2 and checked out by someone who has more experience. I'm wat u call a fuk about photographer. Jus playing around and seeing wat happens. Is it an ugly shit photo or is a WOW it's pretty cool and a unique twist Sweet I like it photo?
Best way to enjoy Photography. Shoot the shit out of it and see what you get. I think we can all relate to that
13:25 would be a great shot with a cow in front and the landscape with the shore in the background. Or am I wrong?
I don't think anyone is wrong with a composition if it's done on purpose. Except wonkey horizons. They look odd. Anyway, I wasn't getting too close
ps my fave lens is my 17 40 f4l.
Roger get yourself a Nikon N 75 or was there last consumer film camera made ( 2003-2006. It takes all Nikon f Mount lenses ever the brown lenses this camera is also just about all plastic except the lens Mount it is metal and you can get em cheap I shoot with 2 of them now because I can’t afford that Nikon F100 which I love. The Nikon n75 is just like this Canon camera but of course it is a NIKON.
N75 is about the same price. Might have to Rick.
Actually, you can get one of those Canon film cameras for as low as € 20, so if you already have some EF lenses, you don't have any excuse but to buy one...
The only thing I found, was stopping manually focusing (false of habit)....cheap purchase and does exactly what a Leica does!
The Leica Lenses are something extraordinary though lol
@@ShootFilmLikeaBoss Yes I would not dare suggest that the lenses are in the same universe, just that if you want a light tight box to transport your film, it really doesn't matter that you only spent a few quid it does the job.
Cows are shes not hes!