I'll try to answer the questions before they get asked a million times. Here I go... -*NO* it is NOT under warranty. Vehicle has 60k on it and GM said go pound sand. *NO WARRANTY.* I called the dealer myself with the VIN and the mileage. It's only an $80,000 Suburban why should they cover it!? -*NO* it is not the customers fault for "not maintaining their vehicle." This is a 4x4 SUV and they are designed to be driven "off road." This includes gravel roads. -*YES* this vehicle has been driven on gravel roads. -*YES* I think GM has the most piss poor engineered EVAP system. Since 1999 they have not been able to get it right. -*YES* GM "electric cars" should do just wonderful in our climate haha. What could go wrong when they can't even make an EVAP system work 😂 -*NO* I did not relocate the EVAP filter to a better spot. -*YES* I know you found all of the parts on line for $5.68 and they say "Genuine GM" on the box. -And finally *YES* NONE of the parts installed were made in the USA. Just because you think GM is an "American Car Company" all of the parts come from Korea, Mexico or China. And *YES* they were all GM OEM parts I installed. -*YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY!*
Maybe the customer should drive that beast in cleaner areas! It’s the size of an aircraft carrier drinking up all them petroleum distillates. With the money to buy and drive that pig, they should have a paving company on stand by to blacktop every surface those tires touch!!! Now that I left my interlibtard out, for real, I wonder when they will make those systems with disposable filters? Now GM wouldn’t get $700 for a new system but I would think it would better for the environment….. I mean wallet.
@ryani5103, I'd love to see the data on just how much $$$ that "money light" has cost us not only in repair costs but failed/delayed inspections, vehicle rental fees and other costs related to the garbage "emissions systems components" that might keep some people's vehicles tied up for days, a week or longer especially at some of these stealerships that keep your car way longer than needed and charge far more than is reasonable. -_-
@@zenithperigee7442 Come to Florida. We don’t have inspections, much less emissions. Cat went bad? Replace it with a down pipe and tune out the rear O2. Nobody gives a crap out here.
@@lynxstarautomotive208Florida: the state that does things so right they don’t have to screw over the residents with unneeded taxes to fund their wasteful spending. ❤
It's on a flexible hose. Just get a longer hose and move it to where it won't suck mud. If you have a GM truck or SUV, do this while it's relatively new and you won't have to replace a $700 part assembly.
@@johnstaton5524 I mean people sure, some idiot had to design that. But how is it the governments fault gm made stupid design decisions? That system could work flawlessly if gm made it more resistant to dirt ingress. I mean fuck our government but this one isn't their fault.
@RoseFBN if there wasn't so many government regulations perhaps companies wouldn't feel the need to invent problems. That specific part is actually very well designed except for where its mounted.
@@RoseFBNevap systems have currently evolved into a gen 3 system because the government keeps saying it’s not enough. The systems have gone full on stupid now.
@@paulsandvig6961 lol that’s cuz it’s made before misfire codes. The ecm just senses sensors. Great trucks if u don’t have a pre 2004 Toyota truck get one
On older cars it's actually telling you there might be an issue. On newer cars it's literally just a money light, because new cars are set to fail after a set amount of miles beyond the "service by" date. It's not like this isn't known information either, they will tell you on their own websites that's what they are doing.
@@forestghost7 , YET the corrupt "gubment" wants to make sure you get as far away from the older vehicles as possible. Obama bin Laden started that with the "clunker law legislation" and now he's pulling Joe's strings to push the "ALL-ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR CLIMATE CHANGE!!" nonsense whilst Joe still hangs on to his "ICE" Vette....
I just bought a new Honda six years ago and it’s never had the “money” light come on yet. I’m avoiding new American cars for the rest of my life by buying Honda instead.
@@jonkaminsky8382 I guess I got lucky, one of my cars is a GM product (99 chev blazer). Money light came on 1 time in 25 yrs just last wk ... code was loose gas cap. Like I said above, I'm keeping my 3 oldies forever. The other 2 are perfect and not replaceable... 1980 MGB convertible and 1973 Aston Martin DBS V8
You know what's neat about the charcoal can? When you remove all the hoses and have just the box and put a airblower in one hole and light the other hole it makes a jet flame about 65 foot high and makes a cool jet rocket sound😂
Did alot of these back in my fleet days. Would run some hose all the way to the engine compartment to relocate the filter/vent. Was so predictable that we did it to the new trucks before they hit the gravel.
Man I wish my boss would do that....can't put gas in without it spraying out..he says is he doesn't know how to fix it as I'm getting yelled at that I'm spilling gas everywhere 🤦
You must be a good mechanic. Too bad there's so few mechanics that can think anymore. They can list a million dumb ideas, but can't come up with a single good one.
What's even better is the fact that GM knows about this. They've known since the late 2000's. They even put out a TSB to relocate the vent valve filter to above the transmission.
@johnbrinjak7468 not for a pickup that hauls trailers and does man work but yes for your high school daughter or stay at home wife needs a quality rental then sure but when it is -30 for weeks and -10 for months I would rather my love ones be in a fullsize suv or pickup not be the smallest vehicle on the road ya great car and mileage but they crumple in a wreck or just go right under your truck and smach themselves point is if its icy snowing and i need to pull and load tools has to be a pickup and same for my family or large suv they don't get crushed by the bad drivers or distracted, teen drives and scared winter drivers old people new winter drivers ect ect ect I want a pickup no lift or dumb tires I want to just have that added height and weight and the room and power
I luv when on car review channels any time one of the BIG 3 comes along you get die hard fan boys defending them like crazy. 'Mine went over 200k miles without a single issue' Yeah right. And I'm not even talking about anything 15 + yrs old cuz they were still built solid back then. But now any American car is a joke.
I always reroute the filter up by the master cylinder. A few feet of heater hose and you donthave to do it again. I live in farm country so alot of dirt roads. See this all the time at my shop.
Gm placed that part in the worst place possible for a very good reason, Planned Obsolescence . This is just one example of Dozens of Designed to fail plastic Garbage that costs a fortune to replace !
If I have to pay that much, I would rather buy German. It’s too bad they don’t make trucks. For cars and SUV’s, German all day. Precision and performance all day. Something American cars lack.
@noobjitsu1743 They have engine mounts and all sorts of ready made pieces to make Cummins swaps easy. My truck even has 2008 Ford axles with front coil suspension.
@@noobjitsu1743 I worked on an 04 a number of years ago and recommended the lockout but the customer only saw more $ not what it meant for future reliability and sadly it was only a couple hundred more at that point. 😞
@@vinces8209 Yeah and hes gunna come back all mad cause it still shakes and blame the truck or you guys. I also heard the Melling 340HV oil pump helps out a lot when you dont lock the phazers. It provides much needed oil to make them run better. I put the pump in AND locked them out, I heard it was the most quiet 5.4 3v they have had in the shop in a while. Sounds like thats your customers loss. Not all mechanics are sleazy but its hard to change the nickel and dime reputation.
Right because Ford keeps themselves in business, offering stuff that breaks really good, skipping the mechanics and going straight to recycling. Keeps the pockets filled and not repairing it no no just get a new one yes 110,000 mile ford means it's time for a new Ford. Designed to be replaced and for it to break into complete engine or mechanical failure
I worked at a Gm dealer in the 80"S and things have not changed. I have always thought that all new auto engineer students should have to work on what they are going to be improving
This was engineered to fail from the concept stage onwards. This isn't negligence, it's corporate malice. All automakers do it, and it is the responsibility of all end users to defeat these bad designs in detail and share what they've learned far and wide.
@cmitchell17a1 engineers can biuld a car that doesn't suck, they made indestructable assemblies and from time to time and then they make somthing new and worse. The company can biuld good cars like toyota but that hurts sales and so they intentionally biuld cars fail. This is the truth and if you do not accept it you will keep buying junk.
There is actually a bulletin specifically for that. There is an additional serviceable filter canister that is added inline with the vent tube. I’ve done a bunch of them recently
There have been TSBs for Chevy pickup vent relocation to over the transmission for about a decade. They knew when they made these new ones and they still put it on the filler.
@@junkman8523 so basically a sacrificial canister that can be changed more easily as a service item vs the whole $700 part. which considering this is a 2021, Im guessing the car may still have a warranty? I mean you can trust a car company to TSB an issue if its costing THEM money on repairing cars with warranties. "Good" engineering is designing it to fail very shortly after leaving warranty. I mean its not good engineering, but its "good" in the sense that they have a specific goal and achieve it with specific engineering. So the engineers are good at what they are doing, just not doing good.
@@orcoastgreenman i have had multiple GM trucks, my latest is a 2020 and i drive it on muddy/gravel logging roads daily never seen, had or heard of this issue before...
So i did a frame swap on one of these. It paid 36 and i knew i could get it done in about 10. I spent 14 because wheh i went to put it back together i started to actually look at how things were set up. Same old issues we have had fixed for years that they wont just fix from factory, locating the items that are not the problems in really stupid areas making it difficult to fix the real issue as they connect and just some clearances for some of the things being an obvious issue down the line. Also RIP that socket that got dropped in the frame. Near the center its like a pin ball machine with where it can go and how it gets there. Magnet and bore scope still no idea where it ended up
My Silverado's entire EVAP had to be replaced with less than 7,500 miles on the Odometer. The vehicle was rarely driven off road, never run with E85 and kept in a garage. The dealership rep quickly correctly diagnosed the problem before realizing that I paid extra for a bumper to bumper warranty, at which point the diagnosis changed and all it needed was grease on the gas cap. I am unlikely to buy another GM product.
Been hearing these stories way too much lately. No GMC trucks for me now. Won’t buy Ford neither. I’ll make way with an SUV from Audi or BMW. If I’m paying that much for a GM vehicle, might as well spend less on a better built German vehicle. GM and Ford have gone out of control on their prices. Almost 100k for an SUV now. 😂 I can get an Audi SQ7 500 hp performance for 90k. Extended warranty till 100k for 2k extra. Pure performance and amazing refinement. Something GM and Ford lack. We used to buy American and stay away from German vehicles. Today is opposite, we buy German and stay away from American. American vehicles have German price tags with American cheap build quality.
@@stevenllewellyn8906 been driving them since 2013. Been absolutely amazing. Best cars I’ve owned out of 100 plus. My recent is an Audi RS3 that I pound and race hard. 100k on it. Drives better than most new cars. I can’t get rid of it cause it’s hard car to replace. Super fast daily driver. Looking at an R8 next or Lamborghini Huracan, which are same car, but different bodies. Maybe an RSQ8 too as a daily. Similar to a Urus. 911 GT3 is also on my list, just impossible to get one. I’ve has almost every make and model.
@@stevenllewellyn8906 Audi and BMW are light years ahead of anything American. Ask any true car enthusiasts. Some of us buy Raptors and TRX’s for tax write offs. I stay away from Mercedes for good reasons. They went backwards. BMW X5 was just on CR as #5 on top 10 most reliable cars made. All were mostly Toyotas. The B58 engine is approved by Toyota. BMW built the Toyota Supra. Gm and Ford were not even on the list. Way too many recalls and issues.
A shop by me sprays wax on truck frames to preserve them. If you have people who are proactive about rust or live in the desert you need to find alternative ways to ruin a car.
For those saying that the car should not be used off road or on gravel roads. Go buy a potato peeler and don’t use it to peel potatoes so it doesn’t brake
Most have never seen what trees look like; They are too busy getting lost in urban sprawl. While working on turning good farm land and forests into the same thing 😅
My wife’s 2011 GMC Acadia and my 2017 Chevy Impala have required the same Purge Valve Canister replacement three times between the two vehicles. There is some comfort in seeing people talk about the EVAP issues 🤪
@Freneticburn, we've had an '04 Impala 3400 since new and never had an evap code once, still have the car and drives fine with over 240,000 miles! Thing is, it was a car my beloved Mother had bought herself at Christmas back then and yet she ended up being let go from her job at the start of the new year.... She was going to let it go back, I told her I'd make the payments, insurance etc., and after a few years she remarried and moved in with her husband and he took over payments till she could make them. Then I needed to borrow the car many yrs later for a couple of months and then I took care of her these last 4 yrs of her life after her husband passed and as painful as it all was, I thank Father God I was able to be there to take care of her when she needed me most, to take her to all of her treatments & be her caretaker.... Sadly I lost her before Thanksgiving 2022 but we still have the car in the family and running....
In GM’s defense they dont expect someone with 80k for a vehicle to actually go offroad. Most new Suburban owners use them to drive on the highway to their office desk job😂
True! Never seen so many SUV’s used for city driving in my life. I guess city folk have living in the outback fantasies or watched Jurassic Park one too many times, not really sure but if you aren’t living in rural environments your ass needs to be in a Camry!
I keep my old truck because GM just keeps getting wiser on how to mess up the vital parts of a car, but makes it look really pretty on the outside. Then they got you for all the good money you make. They don’t make vehicles like they used to, when it mattered about service, respect, and loyalty,
Well those college grad GM engineers want to keep there cush six figure income jobs, so they engineered junk and planned obsolescence to keep parents keeping on spending your dollars on their glamorized polished terds. Don't like to admit it. But for most grads. College is educated ignorance with no common sense.
This one example alone has made me vigilant in my quest for a new vehicle. I'm not an off-roader, but general motors lack of attention here has made me question their design decisions. Therefore, when I go to buy a new car, I will question everything I see from GM .
Yes, some of their designs are stupid but at least it's a simple fix(filter relocate). But keep in mind most manufacturers if not all are doing things like this and Ford is the worst!
We change our 2020 chevys valve and canister every 6 months because they’re all field trucks. I moved the vent side to the center of the truck where the least dirt gets
Well in the early to mid 2000s they had a TSB for this exact issue. I think the fix was to reroute the inlet/ filter to a upper bell housing bolt. I guess GM forgot about their original fix and decided that it lasting outside of warranty was good enough. I hope to never get rid of my 01 Yukon.
Did you check for service bulletins? There's actually a service bulletin for this issue. The service bulletin instructs you to relocate the filter to above the transmission bell housing.
@@sixpest😅😅😅 what a wild reaponse.. they spent $700 for the fix and you think adding $50 to add some hose and labor time is going to phase them?? Onna truck that's $80k
It was LONG before 2014 try more like 2003 when their warranty claims went through the roof. Quit kidding yourself this is a decade old issue. Any one with half a clue has not bought a GM product in the last 20 years...
@@glennbeadshaw727 Quit kidding yourself GM never a step up they were just an alternative. And it is not Ford that went Bankrupt due to crap product and out of control warranty costs. So get of off this kick they are all offering the same garbage. And GM has had nearly 2 decades AND STILL has not fixed the crap product and out of control warranty costs.....
@@glennbeadshaw727It started in the 90s with the hood release switches that would fray and ultimately stop working. Then comes mid 90s and early 10s where the interiors would fall apart after a few months. Now days the interiors are basically fixed but the engines and transmissions are made out of getfucked-tonium.
It was earlier than that, when they had the vehicles that were half metric, and half S.A.E. is when it all started. Around 1977-1979. None of you whippersnappers would have a clue...till now.
They got rid of them a few years ago in Australia when they stopped making right hand drive. I call them "boganmobiles". Bogans are essentially white trash, or those kinds of people who continue to make the same mistakes with life and money OVER AND OVER. It seems over 80% of GMs here are owned by bogans. In an area of the city that's closest for me to shop in, it's all white trash and they're everywhere, often with mismatched tyres because they blow tires doing burnouts. You can have a donut, steel rim, and mag rim all on one vehicle. Very common to have mismatched tyres on a car.
They used to be very good , I've had Vauxhall cars since 1986 , but now GM have pulled out of Europe, I don't know what I'll buy next .Greetings from UK 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 😊
@558vulcanxh the Vauxhall (Opel) we're very good cars back then. The Cadett the Ascona the Manta etc...and then they started to go downhill. Here in the states Cadillac and GM they use Opel drive trains now and they r absolutely horrible...timing chains headgaskets etc going after 100000 miles.... People still go buy them and in 4 years they have lost 65% of their value lol
For those that are upset by this you are right to be. They won’t admit it but situations like this are premeditated by the engineers so that your car busts after the warranty and you have to buy a new one. Most companies do this, that’s why most parts are made of plastic now a days. BMW for example has an entire team dedicated to making sure your car will break (after) the warranty. It’s a damn shame. We need a new car company.
Years from now, long after humanity has died out, our Toyotas will still be here, waiting patiently for some new civilization to show up and turn the key.
The pickups put a computer above the spare tire and gets covered in crap. I would have put it on the rear inside wall of the cab and spent more money on lengthening wiring.
On this model the problem is a faulty fuel pump control module…the control for the vent valve is internal to the FPCM. They have bad solder points on that year. I’ve replaced over 100 of them at the dealership and never do they come back, but I’ve seen plenty of other people try replacing vent valves and other parts and they ALWAYS come back.
When I had my 2003 Silverado, there was a TSB about that exact same problem. My truck was out of warranty and the TSB called for to re-locate the filter to above the transmission. I purchased the replacement parts and did the work myself. I guess they didn't learn anything at all.🙄
Similar to my wife’s Grand Caravan’s rear A/C system lines. I would say that they are designed to fail. No way all involved could be that bad at their respective jobs
My dad just cut off a section of the metal lines and slid on rubber hoses on his t&c, it was a cheap easy fix that turned out way better than it would've with OEM parts, which was only available at dealership and would've cost hundreds of dollars.
There was a TSB concerning this. The problem surfaced after the warranty expired. I didn't blow snot bubbles about it. Spent $140 and corrected the fault. After 10 years, not another problem.
@@repairdroid77unless you get a better exhaust installed before it happens. Nissan is far better quality with the exception of the transmission they use…
@@LotsOfPaypa Who does preventive exhaust manifold work? Better yet, why should you even have to? Nissan is supposedly a better option, yet between 2 comments, people are saying $5k manifold work, and transmission problems are common failures? Two of the most expensive aspects, eng/trans both have known failure points? Doesn't sound appealing at all imo. How about just saying they all have their pros and cons, and brand loyalty is stupid. I own chevys and ford diesels. They all do some things right, and some things wrong. Although it's fun to give people a hard time when they're brand loyal and their baby costs them and arm and a dick lol.
I own Nissan, Honda, GM, and Toyota. No brand loyalty here just someone who knows what breaks through experience and working on my own vehicles. That said, buy what you like and if you want it long term fix the weaknesses on it. How bout that instead of telling me what I should say? Nissan is still better for this specific comparison regardless of what you say champ.
@@loktom4068 it's because I can guarantee you almost all their Electronics come from china. That's why I never buy GM anymore. They stop being good back in like 2000. If you want good Electronics you get it from Japan or Taiwan or Korea. That's why Toyota and Honda are the best for reliability
@@jdjd962 I don’t care what you’re driving. If you get hit by a semi truck you’re done. and a big suburban doesn’t handle well enough to get out of the way.
@@Paul1958RAustralian built ones were GOOD until they stopped building here in September 2016. Now we just have "world cars" usually made in Thailand. They are becoming such junk that I'm switching entirely to Hyundai. I have a 2002 Hyundai van still going so they're not too bad. Our are south korean made, not the US made ones with crankshaft issues and not catching on fire.
I'll try to answer the questions before they get asked a million times. Here I go...
-*NO* it is NOT under warranty. Vehicle has 60k on it and GM said go pound sand. *NO WARRANTY.* I called the dealer myself with the VIN and the mileage. It's only an $80,000 Suburban why should they cover it!?
-*NO* it is not the customers fault for "not maintaining their vehicle." This is a 4x4 SUV and they are designed to be driven "off road." This includes gravel roads.
-*YES* this vehicle has been driven on gravel roads.
-*YES* I think GM has the most piss poor engineered EVAP system. Since 1999 they have not been able to get it right.
-*YES* GM "electric cars" should do just wonderful in our climate haha. What could go wrong when they can't even make an EVAP system work 😂
-*NO* I did not relocate the EVAP filter to a better spot.
-*YES* I know you found all of the parts on line for $5.68 and they say "Genuine GM" on the box.
-And finally *YES* NONE of the parts installed were made in the USA. Just because you think GM is an "American Car Company" all of the parts come from Korea, Mexico or China. And *YES* they were all GM OEM parts I installed.
-*YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY!*
It’s the customer’s fault for DRIVING the vehicle! 😂
that's supposed to be covered by the federal evap law which I believe is 10 years, 100,000 miles. They never cover it though.
Maybe the customer should drive that beast in cleaner areas! It’s the size of an aircraft carrier drinking up all them petroleum distillates. With the money to buy and drive that pig, they should have a paving company on stand by to blacktop every surface those tires touch!!! Now that I left my interlibtard out, for real, I wonder when they will make those systems with disposable filters? Now GM wouldn’t get $700 for a new system but I would think it would better for the environment….. I mean wallet.
Excellent summary. All questions were answered, nice and tidy.
American tat
“The money lights on.”😂
@ryani5103, I'd love to see the data on just how much $$$ that "money light" has cost us not only in repair costs but failed/delayed inspections, vehicle rental fees and other costs related to the garbage "emissions systems components" that might keep some people's vehicles tied up for days, a week or longer especially at some of these stealerships that keep your car way longer than needed and charge far more than is reasonable. -_-
That one's good and at the end, "Keep it up"
@@zenithperigee7442 Come to Florida. We don’t have inspections, much less emissions. Cat went bad? Replace it with a down pipe and tune out the rear O2. Nobody gives a crap out here.
@@lynxstarautomotive208Florida: the state that does things so right they don’t have to screw over the residents with unneeded taxes to fund their wasteful spending. ❤
@@GiovanniGiorgoWe don’t get everything right 😂
But cars we got down-pact here
That's the GM Lawyers calling on a conference call to demand you cease and desist
LMFAO. Perfect timing on that phone ringing.
😂
Hope he tells them to kiss his entire behind
LOLOLOL
"filter sits back there suckin' mud" sounds like a GM tag line
Only if spoken by the Marlboro Man.
Suck enough mud and water and it will be "like a rock"
A long length of hose to get it there
It's on a flexible hose.
Just get a longer hose and move it to where it won't suck mud. If you have a GM truck or SUV, do this while it's relatively new and you won't have to replace a $700 part assembly.
Put a sock on it
Money light😂😂😂😂😂 I got to remember that one 😅😅
Still cannot believe the amount of electronics mounted UNDER the car
Blame people and government policies.
@@johnstaton5524 I mean people sure, some idiot had to design that. But how is it the governments fault gm made stupid design decisions? That system could work flawlessly if gm made it more resistant to dirt ingress. I mean fuck our government but this one isn't their fault.
@RoseFBN if there wasn't so many government regulations perhaps companies wouldn't feel the need to invent problems. That specific part is actually very well designed except for where its mounted.
@@johnstaton5524 and gm are the ones who chose to mount it there. Your logic is flawed dude.
@@RoseFBNevap systems have currently evolved into a gen 3 system because the government keeps saying it’s not enough.
The systems have gone full on stupid now.
Money light!!! Ima start calling every engine light that from now on 🤣🤣🤣
Except the 90s yota. Light never comes on
@@KWAHU93 right! My buddy had one in highschool, that thing was running on 3 cylinders n never saw a light 🤣😭
@@paulsandvig6961 lol that’s cuz it’s made before misfire codes. The ecm just senses sensors. Great trucks if u don’t have a pre 2004 Toyota truck get one
Killed me also with......
The Money Light is on!
😂😂😂😂
On older cars it's actually telling you there might be an issue. On newer cars it's literally just a money light, because new cars are set to fail after a set amount of miles beyond the "service by" date. It's not like this isn't known information either, they will tell you on their own websites that's what they are doing.
The more I see, the further I get from new vehicles.
Hey me as well ... keeping my 3 oldies (99,80,73) forever, I can care & feed them myself
@@forestghost7 , YET the corrupt "gubment" wants to make sure you get as far away from the older vehicles as possible. Obama bin Laden started that with the "clunker law legislation" and now he's pulling Joe's strings to push the "ALL-ELECTRIC VEHICLES FOR CLIMATE CHANGE!!" nonsense whilst Joe still hangs on to his "ICE" Vette....
I just bought a new Honda six years ago and it’s never had the “money” light come on yet. I’m avoiding new American cars for the rest of my life by buying Honda instead.
@@jonkaminsky8382 I guess I got lucky, one of my cars is a GM product (99 chev blazer). Money light came on 1 time in 25 yrs just last wk ... code was loose gas cap. Like I said above, I'm keeping my 3 oldies forever. The other 2 are perfect and not replaceable... 1980 MGB convertible and 1973 Aston Martin DBS V8
This is why I don’t buy American top three anymore.
All vehicles should still come with mud flaps/splash guards and it would help avoid these issues and chipped windshields for the people behind you!
You know what's neat about the charcoal can? When you remove all the hoses and have just the box and put a airblower in one hole and light the other hole it makes a jet flame about 65 foot high and makes a cool jet rocket sound😂
You just burned down like 5 houses with this comment. Great job.
Never tell the internet anything.
@@cornholio324
Shit.
6. Now it's 6.
Government Motors:
The name explains everything
@@Soundofwindonsand Okay AOC sit down.
Directions unclear. Neighbors horse is on fire and I have a 65' flame erupting from the box my 🍆 is stuck in.
Did alot of these back in my fleet days. Would run some hose all the way to the engine compartment to relocate the filter/vent. Was so predictable that we did it to the new trucks before they hit the gravel.
Man I wish my boss would do that....can't put gas in without it spraying out..he says is he doesn't know how to fix it as I'm getting yelled at that I'm spilling gas everywhere 🤦
You must be a good mechanic. Too bad there's so few mechanics that can think anymore. They can list a million dumb ideas, but can't come up with a single good one.
What's even better is the fact that GM knows about this. They've known since the late 2000's. They even put out a TSB to relocate the vent valve filter to above the transmission.
I did the same Back in the day with our fleet trucks in the Oil Field So much mud. Would run it up by the Brake Booster.
as it should be
No more government bailouts. These car companies refuse to learn.
Everything he replaced was there because of the government.
They don’t care. They make a fortune on parts.
100% it was a waste of money in 08, if they can't make a decent vehicle let them fail and get bought out this time.
Government is mandating it to save the UAW.
@@paulsallfire8it was a loan that was paid back
GMC helped me buy a new car and I can’t express the gratitude enough. I love my new Honda Accord six speed manual shift. Thank You
Never were getting a gm ya import commy
@@Koogz406 we would buy a GM product but they’re all made in 🇲🇽
Was a GM tech and now drive nothing but imports in my family
@@Koogz406the 3 American manufacturers SUCK!
The import market as far more superior
@johnbrinjak7468 not for a pickup that hauls trailers and does man work but yes for your high school daughter or stay at home wife needs a quality rental then sure but when it is -30 for weeks and -10 for months I would rather my love ones be in a fullsize suv or pickup not be the smallest vehicle on the road ya great car and mileage but they crumple in a wreck or just go right under your truck and smach themselves point is if its icy snowing and i need to pull and load tools has to be a pickup and same for my family or large suv they don't get crushed by the bad drivers or distracted, teen drives and scared winter drivers old people new winter drivers ect ect ect I want a pickup no lift or dumb tires I want to just have that added height and weight and the room and power
GM is smart. They know if someone is daft enough to spend $80k on a souped up van they won’t bat an eye to have it fixed often
Almost 100k now.
Keep these videos coming 👍👍
Something tells me it was not an accident
Designed to fail.
@@MrTrailerman2it's called capitalism, you crybaby. I thought this is what you clowns loved?
They quite literally have a planned obsolescence engineering division
I luv when on car review channels any time one of the BIG 3 comes along you get die hard fan boys defending them like crazy. 'Mine went over 200k miles without a single issue'
Yeah right. And I'm not even talking about anything 15 + yrs old cuz they were still built solid back then. But now any American car is a joke.
@@99f1fiddyyup, and GM pioneered this during the great depression. Horrible company.
I always reroute the filter up by the master cylinder. A few feet of heater hose and you donthave to do it again. I live in farm country so alot of dirt roads. See this all the time at my shop.
Gm placed that part in the worst place possible for a very good reason, Planned Obsolescence . This is just one example of Dozens of Designed to fail plastic Garbage that costs a fortune to replace !
Right on!
@@lilibethdoherty295service bays depend on re- occurring areas to stay in the black. GM plans to help service bays meet that goal .
Toyota and Honda owe their loyal Following to the Failed GM Philosophy letting the Customer sort Their cars Problems for them ! @@kenlittle3384
Unbelievable 😮
Near 100 years of building cars and manufacturers still cant get it right😅
Even worse.. They'll get it right for a few years and then go back to something broken? why???
@@calholli$$$$$$
You're not thinking about this in the right way. This is a money maker for them. As far as they are concerned, it was designated well.
GM knows exactly what they are doing, they are no fools. GM 115 years old, GMC 111 years old.
@@calhollimoney money money money money money money money money money money money
Great job Chevy!!! Wanna go out of business, this is how ya do it!!!
You talk like any other brand is better
@@garrettdownen7616 they claimed that sedans don't sell. You figure it out.
@@garrettdownen7616Toyota. Honda.
They can't go out of business, Uncle Sam will just bail them out, remember?
@mattwg2009 uncle Sam bails out Ford too, don't let them lie to you.
What’s their slogan, We are professional grade?😂
The ,older ones yeah
700 bucks.. what a deal! LOL
@BrianMann216, some of these newer vehicles with the LED tail lights cost a thousand+ dollars just to replace 1 unit.
If I have to pay that much, I would rather buy German. It’s too bad they don’t make trucks. For cars and SUV’s, German all day. Precision and performance all day. Something American cars lack.
75.00 for a 3/4 DEF fill-up at Service Dept.
Or 13.00 do it yourself.
The Service Dept don’t care how much they mark it up
Another reason I am piecing together my next truck. 1997 F250 Cummins 12V 5 speed. Nice and simple.
best of luck!
@noobjitsu1743 They have engine mounts and all sorts of ready made pieces to make Cummins swaps easy. My truck even has 2008 Ford axles with front coil suspension.
@@boomupengineering Yeah I got a 07 5.4 3v but I locked out the phasers and im really enjoying it so far.
@@noobjitsu1743 I worked on an 04 a number of years ago and recommended the lockout but the customer only saw more $ not what it meant for future reliability and sadly it was only a couple hundred more at that point. 😞
@@vinces8209 Yeah and hes gunna come back all mad cause it still shakes and blame the truck or you guys. I also heard the Melling 340HV oil pump helps out a lot when you dont lock the phazers. It provides much needed oil to make them run better. I put the pump in AND locked them out, I heard it was the most quiet 5.4 3v they have had in the shop in a while.
Sounds like thats your customers loss. Not all mechanics are sleazy but its hard to change the nickel and dime reputation.
Like Lilly Said. They don’t care because they don’t have to. 😳😳😂🤣🤣😂🙈
Haha I so remember that! "We're the PHONE Company, we don't care, we don't have to" 😂 it's still true
Love my 21 year old 1st gen Tacoma. Still runs like a top.
Basic maintence items.
Best girl ever. Lol
Another good day for a mechanic fixing a Chevrolet! Keeping Mechanics fed since FOREVER!
Right because Ford keeps themselves in business, offering stuff that breaks really good, skipping the mechanics and going straight to recycling. Keeps the pockets filled and not repairing it no no just get a new one yes 110,000 mile ford means it's time for a new Ford. Designed to be replaced and for it to break into complete engine or mechanical failure
Especially now that Pontiac is no longer around to improve on Chevy designs as they did for 85 years. 🤬
@@Koogz406GMC aka Garage Manns Companion
I worked at a Gm dealer in the 80"S and things have not changed. I have always thought that all new auto engineer students should have to work on what they are going to be improving
And all techs should have to fully understand all the constraints and difficult choices that have to be made in automotive engineering.
This was engineered to fail from the concept stage onwards. This isn't negligence, it's corporate malice. All automakers do it, and it is the responsibility of all end users to defeat these bad designs in detail and share what they've learned far and wide.
@cmitchell17a1 engineers can biuld a car that doesn't suck, they made indestructable assemblies and from time to time and then they make somthing new and worse. The company can biuld good cars like toyota but that hurts sales and so they intentionally biuld cars fail. This is the truth and if you do not accept it you will keep buying junk.
@@mbox314I rebuild old yotas myself this shit is ridiculous
All engineers should fix what they design right off the bat,!
There is actually a bulletin specifically for that. There is an additional serviceable filter canister that is added inline with the vent tube. I’ve done a bunch of them recently
Let me guess its just another of the same part or did gm actually redesign it to a new location ?
@@papajams9930 it’s an addition canister filter, that is serviceable, installed inline with system that already there.
There have been TSBs for Chevy pickup vent relocation to over the transmission for about a decade. They knew when they made these new ones and they still put it on the filler.
@@junkman8523 so basically a sacrificial canister that can be changed more easily as a service item vs the whole $700 part.
which considering this is a 2021, Im guessing the car may still have a warranty? I mean you can trust a car company to TSB an issue if its costing THEM money on repairing cars with warranties.
"Good" engineering is designing it to fail very shortly after leaving warranty. I mean its not good engineering, but its "good" in the sense that they have a specific goal and achieve it with specific engineering. So the engineers are good at what they are doing, just not doing good.
But why would this guy do that? Would mean it’s actually repaired and he can’t make money again in 2 years.
Had that same problem with my 2004 Tahoe and 2007 Avalanche. 19 years of GM excellence.
Yup same with my 2008 Escalade EXT which is identical to the Avalanche. Impossible to replace these parts without being covered in dirt and grime. LOL
I’ve owned and daily driven an 03 blazer, two 03 tahoes, and an 03 suburban. Never had issues with that system.
capitalism from the start. keep crying and deflecting
@@nokizzy4504- Did you do daily dirt or gravel road travel?
@@orcoastgreenman i have had multiple GM trucks, my latest is a 2020 and i drive it on muddy/gravel logging roads daily never seen, had or heard of this issue before...
The General never fails to disappoint.
So i did a frame swap on one of these. It paid 36 and i knew i could get it done in about 10. I spent 14 because wheh i went to put it back together i started to actually look at how things were set up. Same old issues we have had fixed for years that they wont just fix from factory, locating the items that are not the problems in really stupid areas making it difficult to fix the real issue as they connect and just some clearances for some of the things being an obvious issue down the line.
Also RIP that socket that got dropped in the frame. Near the center its like a pin ball machine with where it can go and how it gets there. Magnet and bore scope still no idea where it ended up
what are the odds it was a 10mm....
@@jamesgeorge4874 10mm stubby impact socket lol
I was able to force one out by blowing compressed air into one end of the frame. It popped out a hole at the other end
That's some fine engineering there.
Government Motors strikes again!
That was pre-2008. It's Guangzhou Motors these days!
Ford and Chrysler were also bailed out
Steve you do realize any new car is pretty much junk right? Over engineered you got it , under cut materials to maximize profit you got it,
All junk. My 92 foxbody still drives like a dream!
@@Donmud 100% They are all junk
You can here the phone ringing off the hook in the background, it's the customer wondering if his vehicle is ready? He wants to go 4 wheeling😂😂😂😂
All manufacturers give instructions to engineers,
make sure this car needs new something as soon as the warranty runs out.
This is as good as the tail light video.
I’m having an EVAP issue on my Chevy Express. I’ll have to check that out. Thanks!
100% the problem. lol
Maybe the gas cap or evap air leak.
Hey Eric, let’s partner up and make a slip on pre filter. In addition to a splash cover like most older generations
I’m calling a “money light” from now on 😂
Oh what a feeling, TOYOTA !! I stopped being Nickel and dimed by Chrysler, Chevy ,Ford a long time ago
My Silverado's entire EVAP had to be replaced with less than 7,500 miles on the Odometer. The vehicle was rarely driven off road, never run with E85 and kept in a garage. The dealership rep quickly correctly diagnosed the problem before realizing that I paid extra for a bumper to bumper warranty, at which point the diagnosis changed and all it needed was grease on the gas cap.
I am unlikely to buy another GM product.
Been hearing these stories way too much lately. No GMC trucks for me now. Won’t buy Ford neither.
I’ll make way with an SUV from Audi or BMW. If I’m paying that much for a GM vehicle, might as well spend less on a better built German vehicle.
GM and Ford have gone out of control on their prices. Almost 100k for an SUV now. 😂
I can get an Audi SQ7 500 hp performance for 90k. Extended warranty till 100k for 2k extra. Pure performance and amazing refinement. Something GM and Ford lack.
We used to buy American and stay away from German vehicles. Today is opposite, we buy German and stay away from American.
American vehicles have German price tags with American cheap build quality.
@@ryanb8736good luck with Audi or BMW 😂
@@stevenllewellyn8906 been driving them since 2013. Been absolutely amazing. Best cars I’ve owned out of 100 plus. My recent is an Audi RS3 that I pound and race hard. 100k on it. Drives better than most new cars. I can’t get rid of it cause it’s hard car to replace. Super fast daily driver.
Looking at an R8 next or Lamborghini Huracan, which are same car, but different bodies. Maybe an RSQ8 too as a daily. Similar to a Urus. 911 GT3 is also on my list, just impossible to get one.
I’ve has almost every make and model.
@@stevenllewellyn8906 Audi and BMW are light years ahead of anything American. Ask any true car enthusiasts. Some of us buy Raptors and TRX’s for tax write offs.
I stay away from Mercedes for good reasons. They went backwards.
BMW X5 was just on CR as #5 on top 10 most reliable cars made. All were mostly Toyotas. The B58 engine is approved by Toyota. BMW built the Toyota Supra.
Gm and Ford were not even on the list. Way too many recalls and issues.
@@ryanb8736 not everyone you speak to is poor. Do you work on your own vehicles?
A protective box prefilter with replaceable filter material would be very helpful in preventing this repair.
I thought the same, but it would get neglected
It would improve things, but that would mean less money for GM
Or just mounting it in a LOGICAL place
That would make too much sense
Or, or just engineer it properly the FIRST time. But then GM couldn’t continue to rape its customers on parts sales.
I'm so glad my parents steered me away from any GM car back when I was first looking for a vehicle as a teen.
New fuel tank too. Chevy Thunder ⚡!! ⚡
Well, I'm subbed. Absolute gold
They have to come up with faster ways to make parts fail since the truck may rust away first before they can sell parts.
A shop by me sprays wax on truck frames to preserve them. If you have people who are proactive about rust or live in the desert you need to find alternative ways to ruin a car.
@@mbox314Don’t spray it near canister. Many have failed because of it.
General Motors Built With Ignorance Backed By Recalls (or not recalled)!
GM designed the evap system to fail! Could've ran a 5/8" hose to the air filter box, but no! It's by design! 🤑
seems like you could fix this issue tho
Wouldn’t pass emissions
@@connor4961 jewmissions
@@connor4961 Volvo vents the evap into the intake without emissions issues.
Same thing with their camshafts.
Your humor is top-notch.
"Money Lights On" 😂💸🤣
A simple gas cap would be a lot easier, but they design it so when it breaks, they get you to spend money.
For those saying that the car should not be used off road or on gravel roads. Go buy a potato peeler and don’t use it to peel potatoes so it doesn’t brake
Exactly ✔️.
Been there, had that, gone through all that from the Garbage Motors.
Potatoes don't need brakes
Except no one is saying that. They are offering modified relocation instructions.
@pbear216 Factoid , Truism.
Most have never seen what trees look like; They are too busy getting lost in urban sprawl. While working on turning good farm land and forests into the same thing 😅
while I do like my old GM vehicles quite literally every single GM vehicle I have owned has had an EVAP code.
My wife’s 2011 GMC Acadia and my 2017 Chevy Impala have required the same Purge Valve Canister replacement three times between the two vehicles. There is some comfort in seeing people talk about the EVAP issues 🤪
Stop buying American junk, especially GM. Care to guess how many check engine lights I have had on my Japanese cars? Zero.
@Freneticburn, we've had an '04 Impala 3400 since new and never had an evap code once, still have the car and drives fine with over 240,000 miles! Thing is, it was a car my beloved Mother had bought herself at Christmas back then and yet she ended up being let go from her job at the start of the new year.... She was going to let it go back, I told her I'd make the payments, insurance etc., and after a few years she remarried and moved in with her husband and he took over payments till she could make them.
Then I needed to borrow the car many yrs later for a couple of months and then I took care of her these last 4 yrs of her life after her husband passed and as painful as it all was, I thank Father God I was able to be there to take care of her when she needed me most, to take her to all of her treatments & be her caretaker....
Sadly I lost her before Thanksgiving 2022 but we still have the car in the family and running....
I always routed them on top of the transmission. There actually use to be a service bulletin saying to route it that way.
Dude, I was calling on the phone as you were filming this. I guess nobody was in the office. I was calling about my 4x4 GM SUV issue....
"Money Light.." 😄
In GM’s defense they dont expect someone with 80k for a vehicle to actually go offroad. Most new Suburban owners use them to drive on the highway to their office desk job😂
True! Never seen so many SUV’s used for city driving in my life. I guess city folk have living in the outback fantasies or watched Jurassic Park one too many times, not really sure but if you aren’t living in rural environments your ass needs to be in a Camry!
@@GenXMafiaThat Camry will be an infinitely better vehicle and will still be going when that GM product is in the junk yard.
Toyota Rules!
@@CritasticExactly
i'd hardly call a long gravel drive way a "off road", thats standard driving in the mid west.
I keep my old truck because GM just keeps getting wiser on how to mess up the vital parts of a car, but makes it look really pretty on the outside. Then they got you for all the good money you make. They don’t make vehicles like they used to, when it mattered about service, respect, and loyalty,
Got a 06 Suburban z71, this is my forever vehicle. The new stuff scares me.
Keeps you employed. You should be very thankful.
GM STAND FOR “GOT MONEY”
That vehicle's only 2 years old and it needs new parts? All manufacturers are putting cheap shit out on the market.
I swore off GM 2013 never again!
Excellence in GM Engineering 😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 ever wonder why I do not own any GM products besides an Opel owned in early 1980’s
Hey now.. My Chevvy Cruze has made me a MUCH better mechanic.. Whether I wanted to be or not!..:)
just like my Dodge Durango!
What year?
Same here. 2013 tahoe
@@loayali6926 What? Nobody is talking about a Tahoe?
What year Cruze did/do you have bud?
The "money light" 😂
It’s not just GM! But great video!
GM really wants your kids to go to college... like really badly
Well those college grad GM engineers want to keep there cush six figure income jobs, so they engineered junk and planned obsolescence to keep parents keeping on spending your dollars on their glamorized polished terds.
Don't like to admit it. But for most grads. College is educated ignorance with no common sense.
This one example alone has made me vigilant in my quest for a new vehicle.
I'm not an off-roader, but general motors lack of attention here has made me question their design decisions.
Therefore, when I go to buy a new car, I will question everything I see from GM .
Yes, some of their designs are stupid but at least it's a simple fix(filter relocate). But keep in mind most manufacturers if not all are doing things like this and Ford is the worst!
We change our 2020 chevys valve and canister every 6 months because they’re all field trucks. I moved the vent side to the center of the truck where the least dirt gets
The engineers knew exactly what they were doing when they designed that. The team probably got a huge bonus for it!
Thats a great idea!all cars should be this way 😂
Well in the early to mid 2000s they had a TSB for this exact issue. I think the fix was to reroute the inlet/ filter to a upper bell housing bolt. I guess GM forgot about their original fix and decided that it lasting outside of warranty was good enough. I hope to never get rid of my 01 Yukon.
Yep,they had an updated part,just relocated filter to bell housing.they must of hired a ford engineer.
Did you check for service bulletins? There's actually a service bulletin for this issue. The service bulletin instructs you to relocate the filter to above the transmission bell housing.
With who's money and labor 😂
@@sixpest😅😅😅 what a wild reaponse.. they spent $700 for the fix and you think adding $50 to add some hose and labor time is going to phase them?? Onna truck that's $80k
@@LAactor That's not the point being made here.
@@sixpest no yours isn't the point. If anything it's more invalid. 35 people disagree with you vs your four
I was a GM guy all my life and somewhere they went wrong I think it was about 2014 I won't be buying anything GM ever again
It was LONG before 2014 try more like 2003 when their warranty claims went through the roof. Quit kidding yourself this is a decade old issue. Any one with half a clue has not bought a GM product in the last 20 years...
@@matthewq4b it's a real shame because when I was young GM was a step up from Ford or Chrysler and now they're all the same garbage
@@glennbeadshaw727 Quit kidding yourself GM never a step up they were just an alternative. And it is not Ford that went Bankrupt due to crap product and out of control warranty costs. So get of off this kick they are all offering the same garbage. And GM has had nearly 2 decades AND STILL has not fixed the crap product and out of control warranty costs.....
@@glennbeadshaw727It started in the 90s with the hood release switches that would fray and ultimately stop working. Then comes mid 90s and early 10s where the interiors would fall apart after a few months. Now days the interiors are basically fixed but the engines and transmissions are made out of getfucked-tonium.
It was earlier than that, when they had the vehicles that were half metric, and half S.A.E. is when it all started.
Around 1977-1979.
None of you whippersnappers would have a clue...till now.
It's why I call GM vehicles PIECES OF CHEVY.
Lol parts Canon, they used it all lol great Job Eric
GM...never fails and stupid customers keep going buying them 😂
They got rid of them a few years ago in Australia when they stopped making right hand drive. I call them "boganmobiles". Bogans are essentially white trash, or those kinds of people who continue to make the same mistakes with life and money OVER AND OVER. It seems over 80% of GMs here are owned by bogans. In an area of the city that's closest for me to shop in, it's all white trash and they're everywhere, often with mismatched tyres because they blow tires doing burnouts. You can have a donut, steel rim, and mag rim all on one vehicle. Very common to have mismatched tyres on a car.
They used to be very good , I've had Vauxhall cars since 1986 , but now GM have pulled out of Europe, I don't know what I'll buy next .Greetings from UK 🇬🇧 🇺🇸 😊
@558vulcanxh the Vauxhall (Opel) we're very good cars back then.
The Cadett the Ascona the Manta etc...and then they started to go downhill.
Here in the states Cadillac and GM they use Opel drive trains now and they r absolutely horrible...timing chains headgaskets etc going after 100000 miles....
People still go buy them and in 4 years they have lost 65% of their value lol
Yup. Bought my last gm I’m 98. Never again
@@claudeschaub9081 I don't blame you
Gotta love new Gm cars 😂
This has been a problem going on damn near 20 years... GM and sticking the cannister vent intake right next to the fuel filler.
For those that are upset by this you are right to be. They won’t admit it but situations like this are premeditated by the engineers so that your car busts after the warranty and you have to buy a new one. Most companies do this, that’s why most parts are made of plastic now a days. BMW for example has an entire team dedicated to making sure your car will break (after) the warranty. It’s a damn shame. We need a new car company.
That’s why I love me Toyotas
They have to make money for those fine engineers 🤐
Another awesome Toyota commercial! 👍
Years from now, long after humanity has died out, our Toyotas will still be here, waiting patiently for some new civilization to show up and turn the key.
Keeping u in a job😂😂😂😂
We know what motivates the engineers at the big car companies (GM), which is why the aftermarket business is alive and well!
Excellent engineering from the geniuses at GM! I will definitely buy one of their products in the future aka keep driving my Honda Civic Sport! Lol.
OOOG.M....You've done it again!
Engineering be like, wait you take your truck off pavement!
GM is always pulling this crap
It ain't known as General Malfeasance for nothing.
The pickups put a computer above the spare tire and gets covered in crap. I would have put it on the rear inside wall of the cab and spent more money on lengthening wiring.
On this model the problem is a faulty fuel pump control module…the control for the vent valve is internal to the FPCM. They have bad solder points on that year. I’ve replaced over 100 of them at the dealership and never do they come back, but I’ve seen plenty of other people try replacing vent valves and other parts and they ALWAYS come back.
When I had my 2003 Silverado, there was a TSB about that exact same problem. My truck was out of warranty and the TSB called for to re-locate the filter to above the transmission. I purchased the replacement parts and did the work myself. I guess they didn't learn anything at all.🙄
I'm just shocked you were able to get those parts and they weren't on indefinite back order.
I diagnosed this a few months ago. Parts just showed up today haha
fk....
@@SouthMainAuto
Similar to my wife’s Grand Caravan’s rear A/C system lines. I would say that they are designed to fail. No way all involved could be that bad at their respective jobs
My dad just cut off a section of the metal lines and slid on rubber hoses on his t&c, it was a cheap easy fix that turned out way better than it would've with OEM parts, which was only available at dealership and would've cost hundreds of dollars.
Eric has like 2 videos related to the rear A/C lines on this van.
That phone call was another new GM Suburban owner with a money light on too.
There was a TSB concerning this. The problem surfaced after the warranty expired. I didn't blow snot bubbles about it. Spent $140 and corrected the fault. After 10 years, not another problem.
Traded my Denali for an Armada haven’t seen and engine light ever since.
Just wait until your exhaust manifolds crack. Codes galore. And only $5,600 to fix.
@@repairdroid77unless you get a better exhaust installed before it happens. Nissan is far better quality with the exception of the transmission they use…
@@LotsOfPaypa Who does preventive exhaust manifold work? Better yet, why should you even have to? Nissan is supposedly a better option, yet between 2 comments, people are saying $5k manifold work, and transmission problems are common failures? Two of the most expensive aspects, eng/trans both have known failure points? Doesn't sound appealing at all imo.
How about just saying they all have their pros and cons, and brand loyalty is stupid. I own chevys and ford diesels. They all do some things right, and some things wrong. Although it's fun to give people a hard time when they're brand loyal and their baby costs them and arm and a dick lol.
I own Nissan, Honda, GM, and Toyota. No brand loyalty here just someone who knows what breaks through experience and working on my own vehicles. That said, buy what you like and if you want it long term fix the weaknesses on it. How bout that instead of telling me what I should say? Nissan is still better for this specific comparison regardless of what you say champ.
I can almost guarantee they did that on purpose. Where else are they going to get Revenue? They can only sell so many $90,000 Suburbans in Tahoes
$90,000.00 with the quality of Dollar Store toys designed straight from Garbage Motor factory.
@@loktom4068 it's because I can guarantee you almost all their Electronics come from china. That's why I never buy GM anymore. They stop being good back in like 2000. If you want good Electronics you get it from Japan or Taiwan or Korea. That's why Toyota and Honda are the best for reliability
@@loktom4068you get wrecked by a semi in a suburban your walking away dude your taking a helicopter ride in anything smaller
@@jdjd962 I don’t care what you’re driving. If you get hit by a semi truck you’re done. and a big suburban doesn’t handle well enough to get out of the way.
@@jdjd962People almost never get hit by a semi. It's almost always the other way around. But yeah, same result.
i look at gm vehicles as junk wrapped in nice looking wrapping paper
Ford too
@@Paul1958RAustralian built ones were GOOD until they stopped building here in September 2016. Now we just have "world cars" usually made in Thailand. They are becoming such junk that I'm switching entirely to Hyundai. I have a 2002 Hyundai van still going so they're not too bad. Our are south korean made, not the US made ones with crankshaft issues and not catching on fire.
@@Paul1958Rim a ford guy and i agree
$ light. LMFAO!!.🤣👌
Chevy saw how good Ford was doing in the parts business and decided to take their lead.