Savage Entertainment Thanks, I tend to do alot of research on characters before I make a video like this though I've only done two on this channel. I also recommend you check out the Naruto vs Ichigo thought and analysis of screw attacks death battle video. I got into depth for both characters.
I absolutely agree that Naruto is stronger, but we have one inquisitive problem that could possibly (at a very low chance although) let Natsu win. The question is whether Natsu can eat Kurama's chakra or not. If Natsu can eat Kurama's chakra, he will boost himself quite a lot. I think he should be able to eat this chakra because he was even able to eat a frickin' crystal! And maybe then he could have a chance to beat Naruto (not SO6P of course), although it is arguably
The only reason he was able to eat the crystal(or etherion lacrima) was because it had several magical properties including fire magic. The chakra from Naruto does not have that type system. Chakra from Naruto is only made up of spiritual energy and physical stamina. The only time it changes is when they add an element to their chakra to make a technique or jutsu. There Is also the fact that Naruto's elements are made up of only wind and water, not fire.
He can't eat kurama because they have different tipe of power in fairy tail they use magic while in Naruto they use chakra so maybe natsu could it only a fire attack like the usual attack that Sasuke uses but Naruto almost never uses a tipe of element he only uses wind with the rasen shuriken but he most of the times he uses just massive chakra
Damn did this miss out on Natsu's true power. Natsu has to be light speed because he fought Sting, a light-based attacker and during his most powerful attack he stood still and waited for it to travel a majority of the distance between them before even beginning to charge up his own attack. That places him well past the speed of light because not only could he react to it, he could casually wait for it to nearly reach him before responding. It wasn't even a close call, he clearly knew what he was doing. Naruto also scales beyond light speed because he was able to dodge the Raikage who (from the databooks) is confirmed to be light speed in his lightning cloak. Meaning he's also well past light speed. Power wise, Natsu is on the tier of literal gods of time that were able to no-diff a continental level being (Irene had a spell that was continental while Acnologia was able to just drop out of the sky and one-shot her). And while his exact scaling cannot be quantified, we at least know he's at minimum continental and likely much higher. Naruto however is relative to Madara, who was in the process of using a life-wiper attack. Additionally, we know that Kurama is multi-continental and that by six-paths Naruto was equal to or stronger than him. This puts Naruto at Multi-continental to multi-continental+. So in conclusion: Both are very much relative, but Naruto likely wins due to an at least a small advantage in speed (he reacted to a much more close light-speed attack) and probably a power advantage of like, Multi-continental+ vs Natsu's Multi-continental.
I'm gonna have to disagree bro. It's not really certain if stings magic is really light. Especially since his magic breaks the very rules that natural light follows. For example natsu dodged a beam that Sting bent to try to hit natsu. Light does not bend, taking that property away from the natural rules is basically stating that the magic being used is not real light. Secondly I also disagree with your scaling of acnologia since natsu never no diffed a continental level being. In fact acnologia and the dragon gods more likely scale to large island level to country level through feats. Natsu's biggest feat so far was destroying 1/4 of aldoron with a full powered purgatory fist (after aldoron was weakened from having his god seeds defeated). Aldoron himself is as big as a large island so a full powered natsu blowing up 1/4 of him is still a significant feat for that putting him at that level. Naruto is already planet level by the time he reaches the last and by boruto he's planetary+ (meaning he can destroy a planet and maybe moon as well). Though with Baryon mode he's practically star level since he was able to defeat a full powered ishikki (who was stated to be stronger than momoshiki).
@@infinitesession5439 We see everal times that elements can be used in ways not natural to our world throughout Fairy Tail but we still count them as that element. And, assuming similar magics are made the same between FT and Naruto, it would remain consistent because in Naruto elements don't act the same as our worlds natural element while remaining the same (Example, Lightning doesn't form the shape of a dragon or wait for a caster to move their hand, but Sasuke still has Kirin. Same with Amaterasu, fire doesn't follow your sight but it does in Naruto. And if SBA applies the magic-like systems are considered the same. On the subject of Natsu's power, he never no diff'd a continental opponent, he beat the time-god form of a being that in base was stated stronger than someone (Zeref) that was stronger than someone continental level (Irene). We can't exactly quantify that beyond a many-times difference, but we do know that he was stated able to wipe out all life on the planet that we know is multi-continental. And this was before becoming a literal time god with 4th dimensional abilities. And while Natsu is not 4th dimensional (He just happened to have the only natural counter to him), he was strong enough alone to match that. And Naruto is not planetary by the end of Shippuden, there is nothing to even imply that. He limits out at multi-continental+, since at the time he has the powers of Kurama (Multi-continental stated) and his own, which is also very high (But at this time less than Kurama).
@@Smigglesdigy @Drake Fisher @Drake Fisher You are in a certain way correct but wrong at the same time so gonna have to disagree bro. It's not really certain if stings magic is really light itself. Especially since his magic breaks the very rules that natural light follows. For example natsu dodged a beam that Sting bent to try to hit natsu. Light does not bend, taking that property away from the natural rules is basically stating that the magic being used is not real. Lightning doesn't act the same in certain situations in naruto because it isn't actual lightning (this is why a jutsu that uses its nature element is different than when not using its nature element). Sasuke's kirin is only guided by sasuke's wave (explained that once he moves his hand down the lightning goes down on its own from the clouds making it still apply to its natural rules. Sasuke's amaterasu still follows normal flame heat rules as well (it can melt ice and metal when it is concentrated). The only difference is the aiming like pointing a gun at a certain area except it doesn't change the nature of the attack. Strings magic directly contradicts the laws of natural light. By bending light you take away its natural properties and thus its natural speed making it not as fast (since light can only move In 1 direction unless reflected or refracted, making it bend takes its natural law away) as natural light. Now on to your next point. Him beating a time God form opponent (Dimaria) is not equivalent to their powers or even close. It was specifically stated that the only reason time stop did not work on natsu was because He was E.N.D. a demon that zeref made specifically to defeat him and gave him a hax ability to resist time stop magic (hence making it strange why dimaria would be stronger than him when he holds direct counter hax to those powers). First off when did Irene ever "destroy" or made anything near continental level? Never. Last time I checked fiore was a small country. I even checked vs battle wiki where it was discussed if it is the size of a continent or country and the consensus was that the person who made the calc used pixel scaling (most inaccurate Ver of scaling) and used a mistranslation from a fan translated page of the scanulated chapter (which now doesn't exist I checked). Zeref was only able to do so by creating a door that by going through it would erase the timeline thus erasing not just planet but practically that universe (so universal level in theory if he can get through the door before his opponent can catch him which against naruto God tiers is unlikely). Like you said natsu aint 4th dimensional but neither is zeref (unless you can count the likely scenario where he went through the door and erased the timeline but we are talking about naruto God tiers who are faster and have hax counters). Other than that his only abilities were extreme high regeneration by time reversal on his body which is a seperate ability from the fairy door (which again can be countered by alot of hax from other universes like TSB or Infinity gauntlet, anti life equation, demon's commandments, etc). So Yeah like I said the feats mostly put natsu and dragon gods and acnologia at large island level to small country (which is quite more consistent than what people think). I never said Naruto was planetary at the end of shippuden. I said he was planetary by the last, the movie where he defeats toneri someone who casually snorted out multi continental level attacks that Naruto easily tanked and overpowered in a weaker form (the entire movie he fought with kcm+SM). Then you gotta amount the fact that Naruto has other massive power ups such as 6 paths mode which is a 10x boost (at least) & ability to absorb natural energy from the planet & absorb chakra from other tailed beasts. Kurama was actually stated to be able to easily turn the world to ash which is life wiping already. It's even stated that a bijuu with a junchuriki is actually stronger compared to a bijuu alone (so that checks out to him being that level). Not to mention in the war arc he was able to supply at least 1k ninja with chakra and made them all 3x more powerful when it took only 100 jounin ninja to charge up a canon that would destroy the moon. Naruto in the war arc was already multi continental+ to moon level. After gaining the 2nd half of kurama makes him even more powerful (at least 2x than he already is) which explains why he was able to easily beat toneri (who can casually use multi continental level attacks) and even stated to be capable of destroying the planet if he wanted to. Then you got adult Naruto with 10 years of training experience and baryon mode which again puts him at an even higher level of power (so much so he was able to defeat ishikki who is stronger than full power momoshiki that literally absorbed energy from a star in the light novels). Case in point feat wise,scaling wise, speed wise and even versatility wise Naruto got Natsu outclassed. That's not saying he's weak he's just got better feats. A more accurate fight would be current Natsu vs Demon King Meliodas or 4th gear awakened luffy (though this one's more in natsu's favor).
@@infinitesession5439 Why can't the Sting attacks that don't bend be light speed? There's no contradiction and not all his attacks have to be the same speed, so when he and Rogue do their full powered attack that is both a mix of light and shadow (essentailly the yin yang of those elements) it was a light speed beam that shot in a straight line at Natsu. Also, I'm not scaling Natsu's continental powers to Dimaria and Zeref is not the only time god EoS. I'm talking Acnologia. The Dragon King that was stronger than base Zeref that was stronger than Irene. Also, VSWiki's primary post on the accurate size of Fiore and Ishgar can be found here vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:IMadeThisOn8-1-2017/Fairy_Tail_-_More_Accurate_Fiore_Size_(New_High_6-A_Calc) . We know Irene used her power on Ishgar, not just Fiore (I spoke wrong previously) because the king's castle gets moved as well. This makes Irene Multi-Continental, increasing the power of Natsu even further. This also puts him at minimum relativistic because he was able to keep up with ACNOLOGIA the time god going all-out. Acnologia is at his lowest relativistic to light. And finally, if we're talking past End of Shippuden Naruto then of course he wins. That's like comparing Naruto pre-timeskip to 4th gear Luffy. It's taking two people in completely different phases of their life and putting them together. No one would argue that because it's an adult beating a child. But KCM2SixPaths Teen Naruto is reasonably closer to Natsu's point. They've both gone through similar time skip's and are close in age. Movie Naruto has had a lot more training and time to grow in power, and especially Hokage Naruto who is essentially a different character. If you're arguing those two, obviously it's a win for Naruto. If you're arguing EoS, it's much closer.
@@Smigglesdigy @Drake Fisher Ok first off again Stings feats contradict what your trying to explain here his bending of light literally takes the laws of how light work. If you bend light you lose the original speed it goes because it no longer moves in its original direction. You are completely missing the point if 1 feat contradicts another it calls into question whether the beam really moves at light speed. The only time we actually see natsu dodge Stings beam is when he bends it. I legit own the manga volume that shows this bro. Bro acnologia even with ravines of time still only showed large island/small country level DC. Eternal flare is a huge example of this. Acnologia is only stronger than Zeref cuz he has better speed feats and destructive feats (hax wise zeref's got him beat especially withbfairy heart). I don't think you should even consider Acnologia as a time God or a being with those powers cuz he not once ever showed he had the ability to manipulate time at all. Dude the fiore scaling I was talking WAS THE VSBATTLEWIKI one. There are several forums that discussed the calc and even pointed out the flaws the guy had in his calc. Faulty pixel scaling (pixel scaling in general is heavily flawed in the debate community because you can't accurately measure the size of a place or thing based on pixels), faulty translations (the scanlation the guy used wasn't an official translation of the panel. I have the manga volume this guy uses the chapter to support his calc and its wrong lol) & not to mention he out of nowhere gave several multipliers. This was pointed out in several comments and different threads discussing the topic and thus is the reason the calc isn't used. Again your somehow classifying acnologia as a time God when he has no feats that show he can do such things nor manipulate time...... The general debate is who wins in a fight Naruto or Natsu. We take both characters and compare their greatest feats and scaling and 1 winner comes out of that. If you want a fair battle then you imply certain rules (which then no longer becomes a general question on who would win because now your adding rules to the fight which limit a character). Also EoS Naruto is adult Hokage Naruto the one who appears in chapter 700 and the past takes place in between 699 and 700 and was stated by kishimoto to be considered as chapter 699.5 and even has a short manga oneshot and novel making it canon. End of war arc Naruto is KCM2+SM Naruto which is a much more balanced fight though still goes more towards Naruto due to versatility, Speed & Variety of abilities and having slightly higher DC (this version gave at least 1k shinobi chakra that made em 3x more powerful). KCM2 Naruto is where the real fight begins with Natsu and even has Natsu win. This version of Naruto tanked a juubi bomb to the face and made a giant bijuu bomb that destroyed a large island.
The fact you only have Natsu as island level is bs,Natsu was island level at the beginning of the series,he destroyed a whole town without trying when he fought against the fake salamander,then later when he gained dragon force because of the ethernano he was capable of destroying the tower with just his physical strength,when he gained the lightning flame dragon mode he could've destroyed Tenrou island if his breath attack wasn't directed upward,he did all of this and still didn't have second origin,Natsu is able to keep up with opponents faster than him with his senses but he was already the speed of sound at the beginning of the series,he fought evenly against Jellal who is known for his incredible speed almost the speed of light by using his spell Meteor,Natsu can also use his senses to figure out his opponents,he did this in the GMG arc against Sting and Rouge where he figured out their breathing rate,Natsu during this time is already island level+,Natsu's attacks are also extremely destructive in power so Naruto's shadow clones wouldn't stand a chance,Natsu at the end of series is a planet buster and I say this because he defeated Acnologia,yes he got help but it was from exhausted and injured slayers and he himself was in the same condition yet he tanked the attacks of a planet buster though not at full power,Natsu was the only left standing so the power of the other slayers were given to him but all of them were weaker than him and not full power so the power they gave him wouldn't make Natsu stronger than himself at full power,Natsu's flames also respond to his emotions and can burn through time and space itself which was shown in the fight against Zeref,it would be impossible for Naruto to even stand a chance against Natsu if he didn't use sage of six paths
@Marqus Medina DF against Jellal in the tower is well over mountain level and lightning flame dragon mode is island level from the fight against Hades(I think was his name)
Fairy Tail Spartan both of those were when he was amped by outside forces. Lightning flame dragon mode was even pointed out by natsu himself when he fought max. That’s like me counting nightmare luffy.
Why was this under the "Natsu Vs Naruto animated" search result? RUclips I ordered A N I M A T E D not E X P L A I N A T I O N. also not B O R I N G A F.
Trunks are you fucking dumb natsu in that episode ur talking about was heavly jacked off and if he’s multiversal ssj3 goku can’t beat him which is definitely a fucking lie
I mean all of natsus combat magic isn’t to different to sasukes chidori and fire style when Naruto fought Sasuke at the end he tanked ameturasu a flame than can burn other flames because he grew a high tolerance to it and he uses wind style jutsu the perfect thing to combat lightning so it’s almost as if he was built to beat natsu.
Yes and even then its not like natsu would really be able to eat anything Naruto throws at him unless its lava style rasenshuriken. Aside from that Naruto has Natsu beat in almost all categories. Also amaterasu is capable of easily disintegrating metal knives like paper. So its very very hot. This is also not even mentioning Naruto's superior martial arts skills. Natsu isn't anywhere near as proficient in combat fighting compared to sasuke. Sasuke is actually one of the best fighters in the series. He was able to physically beat over 1k chunin and join level soldiers all by himself. I don't see natsu ever being able to attain that without his magic and powers.
And we not gonna talk about that Naruto can make more nine tails that can take hits I think natsu is strong but Naruto would run up ok buddy nine tail x5 what up now tailed beast bomb. Hokage Naruto is to fast like natsu would be were he go and get hit with a rasengan and full kyubi amp and all tailed beast and not even gonna take about he isn’t getting touched and healing facter Bru natsu would get stomped he can also fly like natsu but natsu uses more energy and the smarts omg Naruto is a fighting genius natsu does the same thing over and over again bru it’s not a battle and truth seeker orbs would kill him instantly and if naruto knows reaper death seal it’s over cause shadow clones can you reaper death seal(don’t believe me huruzien vs orchimaru) yea natsu would get destroyed
Good vid but work on your reasoning and anime talk. Give more info and speak like you know what your talking about bec people are gonna think that you don't know what your talking about with the little details and stuttering you are doing. Take notes before the vid and then read them to the audience. But still good job.👍
Natsu kinda has minor upgrades making him probably only about 10x as he was in the beginning, Naruto gets major upgrades throughout the storyline making him probably like 1000x stronger than he was in the beginning
Noah De Carmo I mean I kind of do agree but think about it, in the beginning marital was a failure that could barely do anything and nasty was already known throughout the lands.
Naruto low-ball: multi large star Naruto mid-ball: solar system Naruto mid high-ball: solar system+ Naruto high-ball: multi Galaxy This is based from my opinion
@@infinitesession5439 the only way to scale Naruto star lvl is by saying he can take out momoshiki (fused with kinshiki) by himself since momoshiki could destroy stars. It doesn't sound too insane given the fact he wasn't able to push Naruto to his full potential. But that's just the high-ball. At best he's multi planetary
@@sregginkcuf I think that's alot of highball its honestly wank (imo) since momoshiki never destroyed stars more so he drained entire solar systems of energy. But that doesnt mean he's capable of destroying it all at once (he possibly could but we dont know enough to say for sure). Same for Naruto he may have matched it but the best we can scale upto for him is multi planetary aside from anything else is extreme speculation.
The problem with black holes in fiction is that even if they are supposed black holes it was made from magic and it did not have any of the properties of a black hole as it is supposed to have extremely strong gravitational pull and it sucks out light from everything and since that never happened it's not really considered a black hole. On fact i just read the fight and it wasnt even a black hole blue notes power was just gravitational force, which is practically the same thing pain was able to control lol. Bruh he never made a black hole. Not to mention Bluenote was oneshotted by a dragon roar which wasnt even that strong. My statements are still standby.
@@SouthWestDarby Naruto has physically touched Lava and his cloak protects him from extremely hot surfaces as well as extraordinary heat. I mean he literally blocked Sasuke's Amaterasu with just the red kyubi cloak.
@@infinitesession5439 black holes don't really have light tho. In Astro Physics, black holes are extremely massive (does not mean it's heavy) and if light does tend to go near a black hole it will go roughly half the circumference of the black hole and then it will just go off to infinity
The thing about fairy tail is that its *power scaling* is *BEYOND* poor/inconsistently written by hiro .. Natsu strength is seen to be the same throughout each arc ... For example, his full power during Alvarez arc wasn't even able to damage *injured erza* n that is a *BIG* factor since it was partial of END that he was using ... 0 tails naruto was able to create shockwave with just a punch, 4 tails naruto was able to create a shockwave so big that it destroyed the forest around him (n that was only his slither of kyuubi chakra)... Indeed that base natsu can beat base naruto (without kurama+sage) bcoz natsu strength is already above naruto even during the early arc.. But passed KCM is already a secure win for naruto *PERIOD* .. *If anyone disagree then give me reasons for it*
@B!ackhole Andrason that wasn't even canon. It never occurred in the manga. Natsu's full strength relies around a state buster. That's actual power scaling in which u don't even know how to do. Naruto is actually a full fledged planet buster. He shifted techtonic plates on earth with just *sage mode*
Legend that depends since the 3rd raikage tanked it. Dragon force could be able to survive a normal rasenshuriken from kcm. I don’t think he can survive the larger variations or stronger forms.
@@marqusmedina5983 barely. He suffered from scratches and it completely destroyed his cloak. So natsu will be alive, but just immobilized in his strongest. You'd also have to include which age Naruto. Hokage Naruto base is stronger than six paths teen Naruto. A rasengan from base destroyed a star lvl god (boruto took the father son rasengan), but this just shows the extreme power difference between teen Naruto and hokage Naruto.
Legend naruto had an inherent element advantage against the raikage who was still able to move before his regeneration kicked it but your right about the power difference. I just assumed we were sticking to end of shippuden since the last and hokage stomp with sheer power.
@@marqusmedina5983 acnologia is high level he kill strongest wizard with one hit noruto is just a frog natsu is human dragon and demon he chooses hi humananity and got all stranght to defeat zeref natsu don't kill frog he eat fish
faka wty natsu was only able to beat acnologia cause Wendy enchanted the power of all 7 dragon slayers into him, not to mention they were fighting acnologia in his head since his physical body was too strong to beat. I can take this debate with one simple statement. Naruto has a healing factor so he can take anything natsu can dish out and keep going Natsu will eventually sustain too much damage and be defeated.
If that were true how come Zeref zero diffed Natsu by punching him through the chest essentially killing him? And the only way he survived was by Lucy rewriting the book of END
@@calvinsling9859 Naruto even worse. Naruto would no diff him by mere speed and seal him or kill him the same way zeref killed him. He could also throw a Rasenshuriken which natsu probably wouldn't survive (you can only survive it if you have immense regenerative abilities or enough durability to withstand over a million blade cuts, tho by kakashi's words almost infinite). He could also be blitz and shot up into space with a giant Rasengan. Or disintegrated by truth seeking orbs or have his life taken away from Baryon mode or be completely vaporized by a Bijuu Bomb Rasenshuriken. Naruto has alot of options and ways to no diff Natsu.
not only natsu that cant kill acnalogia. also naruto cant defeat madar on his own hand. by the help of sasuke, kakashi. obito, sakura. so wtf that naruto is stonger?/? nonsense discussion
Adult Naruto is stronger because 1 he has both halves of kurama as opposed to his teenager self at the end of the series so his power doubled and he has mastery of sage mode, Siz paths Sage mode and gathering sage energy and using the chakra from all tailed beasts plus the 10+ years of training/experience naruto has gathered with his powers. He is many many many times stronger than His teenager self who was fighting on par with 1 Rinnegan Madara and even kept up for a few moments with Kaguya all alone.
@B!ackhole Andrason zeref being immortal doesn't mean shit. Truth seeking balls automatically cancel out any attacks/passive effects like a curse and kill anyone who doesn't have six paths chakra. It's capable of killing zeref. The least Naruto can do without the orbs is knock zeref's head off. Being immortal doesn't mean u can't take damage. And Naruto faced people that were "immortal" and actually the fuinjutsu Naruto used on the 9 tails is more than enough to actually seal zeref. He's no where a threat compared to kaguya
@B!ackhole Andrason Naruto still has 6 paths u moron. He just doesn't use it as much anymore. Since he's become hokage there's rly no use for them unless he's fighting someone who can bust stars like momoshiki. He used six paths senjutsu. In his eyes he doesn't have orange pigments which indicates he still has six paths. If Naruto didn't have six paths anymore then Sasuke won't have his rinnegan anymore.
@@infinitesession5439 zeref can kill everyone in Naruto at the same time if he wanted to so what Zia Ly is false both of you need to do more research on fairy tail before you talk shit that's not true and Acnologia could also kill everyone in Naruto so your claim is false. Natsu is stronger than Naruto plus Naruto can't hold a candle to a actual god where as natsu beat one and has beat one
@@BenaresDarkness so your saying Zeref cant be killed or sealed even though Naruto has two abilities that can kill him or seal him. Bruh seems like you dont know what your talking about. There are other ways to stop and immortal lol. Truth seeking orbs erase whatever they touch if a person does not have Six paths powers. Bro Zeref cant kill any God tiers in the Naruto verse sorry to burst your bubble.
@@infinitesession5439 zerefs magic is death your not understanding that no one in Naruto can stop it and no they are not strong enough to kill or seal him his regenerative ability is way stronger than anyone in Naruto and if he had fairy law then I don't care what you say they would NOT stand any chance what so ever. your making fairy tail out to be weak I 100% guarantee that no one in Naruto could beat Acnologia. I've watched all of Naruto so I know what he is capable of doing. I watched a video on how strong he is and he's only planet level natsu has the power to tear space and time which no one in Naruto does so no they do not stand a chance. I bet you 100% that you think I'm butt hurt but I'm not. No character in Naruto is a god and you making fire dragon king mode to be weak which it's not it could slap that fox around like nothing. End of story go do research
man dont underestimate natsu .100 year quest is coming and he eventually increse hi power.natsu had defeated agnalogia the dragon king, that dragon could consume any magic.so naruto cant take a chance with natsu .the factor that make natsu more popwerful than naruto is * emotion and he could consume any enrgy if had great desire we can understood that it from the episode of tower heavens .and it could poisn him .but natsu's great desire to help his friends made him to do that.and rrisk his life at any cost.natsu is the best
Natsu consuming any energy is a NLF and its been shown before he can't just eat any element. The only reason he was able to consume some magic from that tiny etherion shard was because it had properties of all magic including fire. That was specifically explained by erza. Also chakra =/= magic. They are both fundamentally different power systems. One is a life force where if one runs put of it they die and can only be used in increments. The other a power force that has no consequences and is used to make anything unexplainable, explainable..Also acnologia was defeated by friendship power and asspull. He was defeated by magic that a few panels before in the fight wasn't affecting him in the slightest. I'll give the benefit of the doubt that natsu became stronger in 100 years quest but not by much. Now Natsu can high diff BSM Naruto. War arc Six paths mode Naruto and his other forms above that however still oneshots 100 year quest Natsu.
@@whoknows6955 Goku would beat Natsu in a heartbeat. Unless you are talking about DragonBall original series goku when he defeated demon king piccolo then you got a fight there. Or if you are talking about the original DragonBall where goku comes back as a grown up and fight tien. I think those are more suitable candidates to face off against natsu. Anything in saiyan saga however is too much for natsu. Especially Post King kai training.
Jayden Martin he cant eat another elements besides fire. The only reason. He ate ethernano is because it had a variety of elements which fire was one of them. Not to mention he gets poisoned if he even tries to eat anything else. Also I would like to point out he never ate lightning he just absorbed it somehow which was never explained.
GODONLY78 natsu has eaten things besides fire *etherion and lighting* and things besides magic *jackal's curse explosions* but can he do BOTH? If not Naruto wrecks.
Marqus Medina actually Natsu never ate lightning and hes only eaten Etherion cuz of it many proterties of magic and Jackals Explodes are based on fire magic so therefore he can eat them.
I saw natsu eos and he is saying island + and we should be happy LMAO Tenrou natsu roar tore through an entire large island You saying sage mode is mountain lvl 😂 Gladly add feats Caz sage mode is highly large building busting He whooped out sage mode and could not actually do any damage 😂 Base natsu > sage mode
1st off the tenrou feat was an amped up natsu via power he borrowed from other fairy tail memebers at the time(so thats not him casually doing it nor is withbhis own power). Also Tenrou is a really small island too (did we read the same manga and see the same island?). Like for real are you REALLY looking at the same material??? 2. I said EoS Natsu is island level but my stance has changed since then. He's now clearly at large island small country level (though its more him going all out tho see his fight with aldoron who's literally a large island/small country sized thing). 3. Sage Mode Naruto is 100% mountain level bro. That's just pain arc too. I advise you to look up Naruto Sage mode Rasenshuriken manga and he sends across a mountain range it blows up a mountain. 4. Well if we compare Base EoS Natsu vs Pain arc Naruto its obvious Natsu is clearly stronger. War Arc Sage mode Naruto is multi mountain level since he is able to put out 2 Sage mode rasenshurikens out AT THE SAME time and even charge one that is strong enough to completely deflect several 10 tails tails(which each tail can destroy mountains) making Sage mode Naruto (war arc mountain range level to small island). 5. Any mode AFTER Naruto KCM2+SM is when Natsu straight up loses. I place Current Natsu (meaning 100 years quest Natsu) about the same level as KCM2+SM Naruto in the war arc. Trust me 6 paths mode Naruto and Any version After that is basically a God compared to Natsu. In the last movie Naruto no sells 2 moon continental attacks in a weaker form and destroyed a barrier that was strong enough to survive the impact of the moon crashing into the earth. That's planetary level of attack potency and if that isn't enough He is able to beat people who eat a planet's energy. Hokage Naruto is no contest Waaay stronger than Natsu (as of yet. Can't say for sure if he will be the same in a year or no).
@@infinitesession5439 I agree that naruto can beat natsu don't get me wrong but it will actually take 6path and a high difficulty to win Naruto dodged a light attack from madara making his reaction speed ls But base Wendy caught up with a ls character,not reaction speed but both travel and reaction and she was in base Now u need to see the difference in power Btwn natsu and Wendy Natsu burnt time, black hole, literally set the ground on fire,beat infinite magic and u here talking like bijuudama can beat natsu easy 😂 Naruto or kurama has no heat resistance feat to even compare to base natsu in episode one That natsu used more fire than was shown in the entire series Amaterasu 'hot as the sun 😂 ' but was seen on trees and water Where natsu's body heat be melting stadiums and vapping lakes There's literally nothing that naruto has to scale him to country lvl That bijuudama + Indra arrow 😂 what it destroyed you can definitely see mountains in the same scene unless the mountain is country sized What stops natsu from burning the bijuudama's 🤷♂ Naruto has no durability feat to even compare to natsu not at all Ur placing current natsu to naruto vs obito 😂 🤦♂ Current natsu literally has a dragon scales protecting his body what's naruto actually goan do 6pth beats natsu eos high diff
@Henry Prince Dude Naruto in the light novels dodged several Light beams in base form. Naruto being LS isn't something new nor is it the same lol. ??? I'm sorry when in the world dud Wendy EVER move at light speeds. I want you to give me exact details on that because that's a new one lol.
@Henry Prince dude everything you just said is pure bs and it doesn't correlate to the manga at all. Natsu never burned a black hole or beat infinite magic lol. You can't burn something thats infinite otherwise it would mean it isn't infinite. Not only that, that doesn't even correlate to attack potency. I'm sorry but you lost the debate as soon as you even brought up light speed Wendy 🤣🤣🤣.
@Henry Natsu's flames seem to do that yet the fodders are either never feeling anything or it's not potent enough to hurt them ever. So I don't know what you were trying to say there. Then you say Indians arrow and Bijuu bomb Rasenshuriken clash is mountain level yet they lauched it from above the stratosphere (that's over 31 miles in height) and it still impacted the ENTIRE area around them and destroyed valley of the end without even touching it and the impact was felt countries away. And you calling it mountain level? Tf.
@@mryoung6090 Natsu is also 4th dimensional where Goku is 3rd.Natsu bruns time itself when he had battle with GOD Zeref. with that he has 8 transformations and a new God form and END demon god form where Goku is trash and He is now only for kids.Dragon Ball Super is for kids who dream power levels like kids.
In fact Naruto can't defeat natsu, natsu survived Jellal's magical attack which is the equivalent of being hit by seven asteroids. And Naruto can't last long in the face of natsu's attacks
What you said makes no sense. If jellals magic were truly as strong as a real asteroid then why wasn't the building entirely destroyed as he used it? Oh that's right its because he's not that strong. What you said makes 100% 0 sense. Especially considering Erza herself barely managed to destroy a meteor herself. Naruto destroyed 20 meteors casually. All of those meteors were bigger than the ones in fairy tail by a long shot. So what you said still makes 0 sense either way.
@@zeke625gameing8 natsu isn't a god. He's reincarnated as a demon but he lost that form at the end of the manga. Naruto is indeed part god since he's the incarnate of ashura who was a god.
InfiniteSession correct ... I will say natsu is strong but like Naruto has sage mode tailed beast mode bijou mode sage of the six paths sage mode can make like 1,000,000 shadow clones must rasenshurikens and rasengans
Jayden Martin hmmm true however its quite possible though Kurama can wake him up since a genjutsu user can only put one individual in genjutsu at time. Other than that he doesnt have any other notable weaknesses.
Jayden Martin Uhhhh I mean You can disagree but its a clear fact if these two were pit against each other and at their full strength, Naruto would flat put win due to him having better feats and strong her overall feats.
GODONLY78 it's true he's right Naruto is way out of his league he has RASENGAN barrage RASENGAN shuriken turn tailed beast or bijou / bijuu however it's spelt rasengans not to mention tailed beast bomb Naruto got a special power from the sage of the six paths and he healed kakashi hatake's eye he matched the speed of the raikage which is hella fast he split the moon in half, and yes some people are actually saying Naruto got weaker in the boruto series... I ain't on that yet cause I'm waiting for the rest of the Naruto dubbed version to come out but I watched the Naruto boruto movie .... AAANNNNDDDD don't hate on this guy he's just speaking facts
nxl11 He got stronger in boruto bro. He has two halves of kurama and has 10+ years of experience, and he's can do everything he can do as his teenager self just boosted up with another half of kurama. Not to mention in base hokage Naruto made a rasengan that launched fused momoshiki out into orbit in seconds.
Very nice and well thought out video. I agree with the results 👍🏽✅
Savage Entertainment Thanks, I tend to do alot of research on characters before I make a video like this though I've only done two on this channel. I also recommend you check out the Naruto vs Ichigo thought and analysis of screw attacks death battle video. I got into depth for both characters.
Basically natsu and naruto would fight like natsu does with gray and gajeel every episode. Lol
It's more like if Natsu fought Naruto he would be smashed like how erza would smash him and gray for ruining her cake.
InfiniteSession I’m talking about their personality
@@X_xWolfx_X oh probably lol.
I absolutely agree that Naruto is stronger, but we have one inquisitive problem that could possibly (at a very low chance although) let Natsu win. The question is whether Natsu can eat Kurama's chakra or not. If Natsu can eat Kurama's chakra, he will boost himself quite a lot. I think he should be able to eat this chakra because he was even able to eat a frickin' crystal! And maybe then he could have a chance to beat Naruto (not SO6P of course), although it is arguably
The only reason he was able to eat the crystal(or etherion lacrima) was because it had several magical properties including fire magic. The chakra from Naruto does not have that type system. Chakra from Naruto is only made up of spiritual energy and physical stamina. The only time it changes is when they add an element to their chakra to make a technique or jutsu. There Is also the fact that Naruto's elements are made up of only wind and water, not fire.
Олексій Чайковський Natsu can’t eat chakra u dumbass he can only eat attacks based on fire like his dragon or heat based attacks
He can't eat kurama because they have different tipe of power in fairy tail they use magic while in Naruto they use chakra so maybe natsu could it only a fire attack like the usual attack that Sasuke uses but Naruto almost never uses a tipe of element he only uses wind with the rasen shuriken but he most of the times he uses just massive chakra
Damn did this miss out on Natsu's true power.
Natsu has to be light speed because he fought Sting, a light-based attacker and during his most powerful attack he stood still and waited for it to travel a majority of the distance between them before even beginning to charge up his own attack. That places him well past the speed of light because not only could he react to it, he could casually wait for it to nearly reach him before responding. It wasn't even a close call, he clearly knew what he was doing.
Naruto also scales beyond light speed because he was able to dodge the Raikage who (from the databooks) is confirmed to be light speed in his lightning cloak. Meaning he's also well past light speed.
Power wise, Natsu is on the tier of literal gods of time that were able to no-diff a continental level being (Irene had a spell that was continental while Acnologia was able to just drop out of the sky and one-shot her). And while his exact scaling cannot be quantified, we at least know he's at minimum continental and likely much higher.
Naruto however is relative to Madara, who was in the process of using a life-wiper attack. Additionally, we know that Kurama is multi-continental and that by six-paths Naruto was equal to or stronger than him. This puts Naruto at Multi-continental to multi-continental+.
So in conclusion: Both are very much relative, but Naruto likely wins due to an at least a small advantage in speed (he reacted to a much more close light-speed attack) and probably a power advantage of like, Multi-continental+ vs Natsu's Multi-continental.
I'm gonna have to disagree bro. It's not really certain if stings magic is really light. Especially since his magic breaks the very rules that natural light follows. For example natsu dodged a beam that Sting bent to try to hit natsu. Light does not bend, taking that property away from the natural rules is basically stating that the magic being used is not real light. Secondly I also disagree with your scaling of acnologia since natsu never no diffed a continental level being. In fact acnologia and the dragon gods more likely scale to large island level to country level through feats. Natsu's biggest feat so far was destroying 1/4 of aldoron with a full powered purgatory fist (after aldoron was weakened from having his god seeds defeated). Aldoron himself is as big as a large island so a full powered natsu blowing up 1/4 of him is still a significant feat for that putting him at that level. Naruto is already planet level by the time he reaches the last and by boruto he's planetary+ (meaning he can destroy a planet and maybe moon as well). Though with Baryon mode he's practically star level since he was able to defeat a full powered ishikki (who was stated to be stronger than momoshiki).
@@infinitesession5439 We see everal times that elements can be used in ways not natural to our world throughout Fairy Tail but we still count them as that element. And, assuming similar magics are made the same between FT and Naruto, it would remain consistent because in Naruto elements don't act the same as our worlds natural element while remaining the same (Example, Lightning doesn't form the shape of a dragon or wait for a caster to move their hand, but Sasuke still has Kirin. Same with Amaterasu, fire doesn't follow your sight but it does in Naruto. And if SBA applies the magic-like systems are considered the same.
On the subject of Natsu's power, he never no diff'd a continental opponent, he beat the time-god form of a being that in base was stated stronger than someone (Zeref) that was stronger than someone continental level (Irene). We can't exactly quantify that beyond a many-times difference, but we do know that he was stated able to wipe out all life on the planet that we know is multi-continental. And this was before becoming a literal time god with 4th dimensional abilities. And while Natsu is not 4th dimensional (He just happened to have the only natural counter to him), he was strong enough alone to match that.
And Naruto is not planetary by the end of Shippuden, there is nothing to even imply that. He limits out at multi-continental+, since at the time he has the powers of Kurama (Multi-continental stated) and his own, which is also very high (But at this time less than Kurama).
@@Smigglesdigy @Drake Fisher @Drake Fisher You are in a certain way correct but wrong at the same time so gonna have to disagree bro. It's not really certain if stings magic is really light itself. Especially since his magic breaks the very rules that natural light follows. For example natsu dodged a beam that Sting bent to try to hit natsu. Light does not bend, taking that property away from the natural rules is basically stating that the magic being used is not real. Lightning doesn't act the same in certain situations in naruto because it isn't actual lightning (this is why a jutsu that uses its nature element is different than when not using its nature element). Sasuke's kirin is only guided by sasuke's wave (explained that once he moves his hand down the lightning goes down on its own from the clouds making it still apply to its natural rules. Sasuke's amaterasu still follows normal flame heat rules as well (it can melt ice and metal when it is concentrated). The only difference is the aiming like pointing a gun at a certain area except it doesn't change the nature of the attack. Strings magic directly contradicts the laws of natural light. By bending light you take away its natural properties and thus its natural speed making it not as fast (since light can only move In 1 direction unless reflected or refracted, making it bend takes its natural law away) as natural light.
Now on to your next point. Him beating a time God form opponent (Dimaria) is not equivalent to their powers or even close. It was specifically stated that the only reason time stop did not work on natsu was because He was E.N.D. a demon that zeref made specifically to defeat him and gave him a hax ability to resist time stop magic (hence making it strange why dimaria would be stronger than him when he holds direct counter hax to those powers). First off when did Irene ever "destroy" or made anything near continental level? Never. Last time I checked fiore was a small country. I even checked vs battle wiki where it was discussed if it is the size of a continent or country and the consensus was that the person who made the calc used pixel scaling (most inaccurate Ver of scaling) and used a mistranslation from a fan translated page of the scanulated chapter (which now doesn't exist I checked). Zeref was only able to do so by creating a door that by going through it would erase the timeline thus erasing not just planet but practically that universe (so universal level in theory if he can get through the door before his opponent can catch him which against naruto God tiers is unlikely). Like you said natsu aint 4th dimensional but neither is zeref (unless you can count the likely scenario where he went through the door and erased the timeline but we are talking about naruto God tiers who are faster and have hax counters). Other than that his only abilities were extreme high regeneration by time reversal on his body which is a seperate ability from the fairy door (which again can be countered by alot of hax from other universes like TSB or Infinity gauntlet, anti life equation, demon's commandments, etc). So Yeah like I said the feats mostly put natsu and dragon gods and acnologia at large island level to small country (which is quite more consistent than what people think). I never said Naruto was planetary at the end of shippuden. I said he was planetary by the last, the movie where he defeats toneri someone who casually snorted out multi continental level attacks that Naruto easily tanked and overpowered in a weaker form (the entire movie he fought with kcm+SM). Then you gotta amount the fact that Naruto has other massive power ups such as 6 paths mode which is a 10x boost (at least) & ability to absorb natural energy from the planet & absorb chakra from other tailed beasts. Kurama was actually stated to be able to easily turn the world to ash which is life wiping already. It's even stated that a bijuu with a junchuriki is actually stronger compared to a bijuu alone (so that checks out to him being that level). Not to mention in the war arc he was able to supply at least 1k ninja with chakra and made them all 3x more powerful when it took only 100 jounin ninja to charge up a canon that would destroy the moon. Naruto in the war arc was already multi continental+ to moon level. After gaining the 2nd half of kurama makes him even more powerful (at least 2x than he already is) which explains why he was able to easily beat toneri (who can casually use multi continental level attacks) and even stated to be capable of destroying the planet if he wanted to. Then you got adult Naruto with 10 years of training experience and baryon mode which again puts him at an even higher level of power (so much so he was able to defeat ishikki who is stronger than full power momoshiki that literally absorbed energy from a star in the light novels). Case in point feat wise,scaling wise, speed wise and even versatility wise Naruto got Natsu outclassed. That's not saying he's weak he's just got better feats. A more accurate fight would be current Natsu vs Demon King Meliodas or 4th gear awakened luffy (though this one's more in natsu's favor).
@@infinitesession5439 Why can't the Sting attacks that don't bend be light speed? There's no contradiction and not all his attacks have to be the same speed, so when he and Rogue do their full powered attack that is both a mix of light and shadow (essentailly the yin yang of those elements) it was a light speed beam that shot in a straight line at Natsu.
Also, I'm not scaling Natsu's continental powers to Dimaria and Zeref is not the only time god EoS. I'm talking Acnologia. The Dragon King that was stronger than base Zeref that was stronger than Irene. Also, VSWiki's primary post on the accurate size of Fiore and Ishgar can be found here vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:IMadeThisOn8-1-2017/Fairy_Tail_-_More_Accurate_Fiore_Size_(New_High_6-A_Calc) . We know Irene used her power on Ishgar, not just Fiore (I spoke wrong previously) because the king's castle gets moved as well. This makes Irene Multi-Continental, increasing the power of Natsu even further. This also puts him at minimum relativistic because he was able to keep up with ACNOLOGIA the time god going all-out. Acnologia is at his lowest relativistic to light.
And finally, if we're talking past End of Shippuden Naruto then of course he wins. That's like comparing Naruto pre-timeskip to 4th gear Luffy. It's taking two people in completely different phases of their life and putting them together. No one would argue that because it's an adult beating a child. But KCM2SixPaths Teen Naruto is reasonably closer to Natsu's point. They've both gone through similar time skip's and are close in age. Movie Naruto has had a lot more training and time to grow in power, and especially Hokage Naruto who is essentially a different character. If you're arguing those two, obviously it's a win for Naruto. If you're arguing EoS, it's much closer.
@@Smigglesdigy @Drake Fisher Ok first off again Stings feats contradict what your trying to explain here his bending of light literally takes the laws of how light work. If you bend light you lose the original speed it goes because it no longer moves in its original direction. You are completely missing the point if 1 feat contradicts another it calls into question whether the beam really moves at light speed. The only time we actually see natsu dodge Stings beam is when he bends it. I legit own the manga volume that shows this bro. Bro acnologia even with ravines of time still only showed large island/small country level DC. Eternal flare is a huge example of this. Acnologia is only stronger than Zeref cuz he has better speed feats and destructive feats (hax wise zeref's got him beat especially withbfairy heart). I don't think you should even consider Acnologia as a time God or a being with those powers cuz he not once ever showed he had the ability to manipulate time at all. Dude the fiore scaling I was talking WAS THE VSBATTLEWIKI one. There are several forums that discussed the calc and even pointed out the flaws the guy had in his calc. Faulty pixel scaling (pixel scaling in general is heavily flawed in the debate community because you can't accurately measure the size of a place or thing based on pixels), faulty translations (the scanlation the guy used wasn't an official translation of the panel. I have the manga volume this guy uses the chapter to support his calc and its wrong lol) & not to mention he out of nowhere gave several multipliers. This was pointed out in several comments and different threads discussing the topic and thus is the reason the calc isn't used. Again your somehow classifying acnologia as a time God when he has no feats that show he can do such things nor manipulate time......
The general debate is who wins in a fight Naruto or Natsu. We take both characters and compare their greatest feats and scaling and 1 winner comes out of that. If you want a fair battle then you imply certain rules (which then no longer becomes a general question on who would win because now your adding rules to the fight which limit a character). Also EoS Naruto is adult Hokage Naruto the one who appears in chapter 700 and the past takes place in between 699 and 700 and was stated by kishimoto to be considered as chapter 699.5 and even has a short manga oneshot and novel making it canon. End of war arc Naruto is KCM2+SM Naruto which is a much more balanced fight though still goes more towards Naruto due to versatility, Speed & Variety of abilities and having slightly higher DC (this version gave at least 1k shinobi chakra that made em 3x more powerful). KCM2 Naruto is where the real fight begins with Natsu and even has Natsu win. This version of Naruto tanked a juubi bomb to the face and made a giant bijuu bomb that destroyed a large island.
I 100% agree
Nice video
But funny how people scales Naruto to galaxy + saying he's a 4d character
The fact you only have Natsu as island level is bs,Natsu was island level at the beginning of the series,he destroyed a whole town without trying when he fought against the fake salamander,then later when he gained dragon force because of the ethernano he was capable of destroying the tower with just his physical strength,when he gained the lightning flame dragon mode he could've destroyed Tenrou island if his breath attack wasn't directed upward,he did all of this and still didn't have second origin,Natsu is able to keep up with opponents faster than him with his senses but he was already the speed of sound at the beginning of the series,he fought evenly against Jellal who is known for his incredible speed almost the speed of light by using his spell Meteor,Natsu can also use his senses to figure out his opponents,he did this in the GMG arc against Sting and Rouge where he figured out their breathing rate,Natsu during this time is already island level+,Natsu's attacks are also extremely destructive in power so Naruto's shadow clones wouldn't stand a chance,Natsu at the end of series is a planet buster and I say this because he defeated Acnologia,yes he got help but it was from exhausted and injured slayers and he himself was in the same condition yet he tanked the attacks of a planet buster though not at full power,Natsu was the only left standing so the power of the other slayers were given to him but all of them were weaker than him and not full power so the power they gave him wouldn't make Natsu stronger than himself at full power,Natsu's flames also respond to his emotions and can burn through time and space itself which was shown in the fight against Zeref,it would be impossible for Naruto to even stand a chance against Natsu if he didn't use sage of six paths
Fairy Tail Spartan bora did more damage to the town than natsu did so no.
@Marqus Medina no he didn't and even then Natsu is still much stronger than him so my point doesn't change
Fairy Tail Spartan natsu was not even mountain level before second origin.
@Marqus Medina DF against Jellal in the tower is well over mountain level and lightning flame dragon mode is island level from the fight against Hades(I think was his name)
Fairy Tail Spartan both of those were when he was amped by outside forces. Lightning flame dragon mode was even pointed out by natsu himself when he fought max. That’s like me counting nightmare luffy.
Why was this under the "Natsu Vs Naruto animated" search result? RUclips I ordered A N I M A T E D not E X P L A I N A T I O N. also not B O R I N G A F.
Lol it clearly says discussion not animated anywhere. Tho I'm glad you added a view.
I like this 👌 but Naruto is planet level you don't have to see a character to destroy a planet
Well guess what natsu is universal+ level so he stomps baldy.
Trunks you do realize natsu is island level
@@slick1637 you don't realize he's way above that as he's multiversal level+
Trunks are you fucking dumb natsu in that episode ur talking about was heavly jacked off and if he’s multiversal ssj3 goku can’t beat him which is definitely a fucking lie
@@slick1637 expect it ain't a lie aminoapps.com/c/anime/page/blog/natsu-respect-thread/lVtQ_u3dq5ePVKnkgQP4oVRjnQgK0phq
I mean all of natsus combat magic isn’t to different to sasukes chidori and fire style when Naruto fought Sasuke at the end he tanked ameturasu a flame than can burn other flames because he grew a high tolerance to it and he uses wind style jutsu the perfect thing to combat lightning so it’s almost as if he was built to beat natsu.
Yes and even then its not like natsu would really be able to eat anything Naruto throws at him unless its lava style rasenshuriken. Aside from that Naruto has Natsu beat in almost all categories. Also amaterasu is capable of easily disintegrating metal knives like paper. So its very very hot. This is also not even mentioning Naruto's superior martial arts skills. Natsu isn't anywhere near as proficient in combat fighting compared to sasuke. Sasuke is actually one of the best fighters in the series. He was able to physically beat over 1k chunin and join level soldiers all by himself. I don't see natsu ever being able to attain that without his magic and powers.
Great job! I agree
But yeah Naruto is definitely planetary
Manga natsu is low multi
@@responds2548 He's not. Not even close.
@@responds2548 🗑
@@responds2548 nah
And we not gonna talk about that Naruto can make more nine tails that can take hits I think natsu is strong but Naruto would run up ok buddy nine tail x5 what up now tailed beast bomb. Hokage Naruto is to fast like natsu would be were he go and get hit with a rasengan and full kyubi amp and all tailed beast and not even gonna take about he isn’t getting touched and healing facter Bru natsu would get stomped he can also fly like natsu but natsu uses more energy and the smarts omg Naruto is a fighting genius natsu does the same thing over and over again bru it’s not a battle and truth seeker orbs would kill him instantly and if naruto knows reaper death seal it’s over cause shadow clones can you reaper death seal(don’t believe me huruzien vs orchimaru) yea natsu would get destroyed
*Natsu
This comment was so confusing
naruto can destroy Natsu in kcm2 sage mode
@@johnnyson601 not even close what’s your discord Nastu slaps any of naruto forms
Nice review I agree
Naruto is light speed or beyond
Adult Naruto is beyond light speed logically speaking. He reacts perfectly to sasuke's teleportation
Adult Naruto is MFTL+
@@sregginkcuf Naruto is MFTL+
@@bennybruno5372 ik.
@@sregginkcuf ight
Good vid but work on your reasoning and anime talk.
Give more info and speak like you know what your talking about bec people are gonna think that you don't know what your talking about with the little details and stuttering you are doing.
Take notes before the vid and then read them to the audience.
But still good job.👍
I made this video a long time ago and it was unscripted. And u do know what I was talking about since I provided the feats backing up the claims.
@@infinitesession5439 of course
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Natsu kinda has minor upgrades making him probably only about 10x as he was in the beginning, Naruto gets major upgrades throughout the storyline making him probably like 1000x stronger than he was in the beginning
Noah De Carmo I mean I kind of do agree but think about it, in the beginning marital was a failure that could barely do anything and nasty was already known throughout the lands.
Natsu gain more than 10x in just one year he got way stronger.
@@BenaresDarkness still weak compare to naruto
Well in 2018??
Still the same.
Please we can see about
Lilking Lilkin the gap is still the same since they’ve both gotten stronger.
@@marqusmedina5983 The gap recently became bigger since Baryon mode got introduced lol.
@@infinitesession5439 somebody is debating me on discord natsu v naruto. Do u mind debating him if u have the time it’s fine tho if u can’t
Naruto low-ball: multi large star
Naruto mid-ball: solar system
Naruto mid high-ball: solar system+
Naruto high-ball: multi Galaxy
This is based from my opinion
No bro no. Naruto at best is multi planetary by manga feats. He's not anywhere near star level.
@@infinitesession5439 he can be scaled to multi dwarf star
@@infinitesession5439 but this is based on my opinion
@@infinitesession5439 the only way to scale Naruto star lvl is by saying he can take out momoshiki (fused with kinshiki) by himself since momoshiki could destroy stars. It doesn't sound too insane given the fact he wasn't able to push Naruto to his full potential. But that's just the high-ball. At best he's multi planetary
@@sregginkcuf I think that's alot of highball its honestly wank (imo) since momoshiki never destroyed stars more so he drained entire solar systems of energy. But that doesnt mean he's capable of destroying it all at once (he possibly could but we dont know enough to say for sure). Same for Naruto he may have matched it but the best we can scale upto for him is multi planetary aside from anything else is extreme speculation.
At the end of the seires, he says Natsu is island lev when his fight with Bluenote he literally destroys a black hole
The problem with black holes in fiction is that even if they are supposed black holes it was made from magic and it did not have any of the properties of a black hole as it is supposed to have extremely strong gravitational pull and it sucks out light from everything and since that never happened it's not really considered a black hole. On fact i just read the fight and it wasnt even a black hole blue notes power was just gravitational force, which is practically the same thing pain was able to control lol. Bruh he never made a black hole. Not to mention Bluenote was oneshotted by a dragon roar which wasnt even that strong. My statements are still standby.
@@infinitesession5439 ok then what about the flame aura around natsu that melts metal on contact how is nartu or his clones gonna get near that
@@SouthWestDarby Naruto has physically touched Lava and his cloak protects him from extremely hot surfaces as well as extraordinary heat. I mean he literally blocked Sasuke's Amaterasu with just the red kyubi cloak.
@@infinitesession5439 black holes don't really have light tho. In Astro Physics, black holes are extremely massive (does not mean it's heavy) and if light does tend to go near a black hole it will go roughly half the circumference of the black hole and then it will just go off to infinity
#1 actually natsu took him out before he could fire it.
*This guy can fl....* natsu wins
Naruto can defeat natsu
The thing about fairy tail is that its *power scaling* is *BEYOND* poor/inconsistently written by hiro .. Natsu strength is seen to be the same throughout each arc ...
For example, his full power during Alvarez arc wasn't even able to damage *injured erza* n that is a *BIG* factor since it was partial of END that he was using ... 0 tails naruto was able to create shockwave with just a punch, 4 tails naruto was able to create a shockwave so big that it destroyed the forest around him (n that was only his slither of kyuubi chakra)...
Indeed that base natsu can beat base naruto (without kurama+sage) bcoz natsu strength is already above naruto even during the early arc.. But passed KCM is already a secure win for naruto *PERIOD* ..
*If anyone disagree then give me reasons for it*
@B!ackhole Andrason that was *FILLER* kid... Don't confuse "canon" with "filler" ... Natsu got *NOTHING* on naruto.
@B!ackhole Andrason that wasn't even canon. It never occurred in the manga. Natsu's full strength relies around a state buster. That's actual power scaling in which u don't even know how to do. Naruto is actually a full fledged planet buster. He shifted techtonic plates on earth with just *sage mode*
Natsu is 4d universal level level naruto has no chance.
@@trunks1943 natsu isnt't 4D, and you say that he is 4D but later say he is universal when 4D=uni+ and low multi with high ball.
@@conceptorofconceptsoralson9979 natsu is 4d and i meant to say universal+
Natsu if he got seriously mad or if happy got hurt
I don't think even then. Though he might catch Naruto off guard for a few moments but he wouldn't be able to win.
Natsu raging would not change who would win in a fight. If he gets hit by one rasenshiriken, gg.
Legend that depends since the 3rd raikage tanked it. Dragon force could be able to survive a normal rasenshuriken from kcm. I don’t think he can survive the larger variations or stronger forms.
@@marqusmedina5983 barely. He suffered from scratches and it completely destroyed his cloak. So natsu will be alive, but just immobilized in his strongest. You'd also have to include which age Naruto. Hokage Naruto base is stronger than six paths teen Naruto. A rasengan from base destroyed a star lvl god (boruto took the father son rasengan), but this just shows the extreme power difference between teen Naruto and hokage Naruto.
Legend naruto had an inherent element advantage against the raikage who was still able to move before his regeneration kicked it but your right about the power difference. I just assumed we were sticking to end of shippuden since the last and hokage stomp with sheer power.
Cool video but i dont agree on you say naruto is JUST planetary might guy bended space hokage naruto in base stomps eighth gate guy
Yeah I know. This video is old and I know Naruto is much stronger. He's more than likely multi planetary level.
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Sam David c
naruto's like large country level with kcm2 sage mode lol
Planetary
@@marvelousstudiosmovingpict2932 No
natsu can kill naruto because of frienship:) and by the way dragon is way more stronger than kurama.
Based on what feats?
@B!ackhole Andrason non Canon. Never occurred in the manga therefore natsu can't bust planets. Those episodes were filler overwanked with plot armor
Legend that wasn’t even a planet. They explicitly say planetoid AKA asteroid.
Mc Kenneth Fernandez that is right someone is sane around here
Marqus Medina just. Shut up fan boi it is true natsu could destroy
Naruto didn't destroy moon watch the movie again
faka wty true. He did overpower the attack that cut it in half though.
The one who cut the moon was his opponent natsu save Celestial world
faka wty who’s strongest fighter got wrecked by mard geer, and admittedly had no chance against acnologia. Naruto still wins.
@@marqusmedina5983 acnologia is high level he kill strongest wizard with one hit noruto is just a frog natsu is human dragon and demon he chooses hi humananity and got all stranght to defeat zeref natsu don't kill frog he eat fish
faka wty natsu was only able to beat acnologia cause Wendy enchanted the power of all 7 dragon slayers into him, not to mention they were fighting acnologia in his head since his physical body was too strong to beat.
I can take this debate with one simple statement. Naruto has a healing factor so he can take anything natsu can dish out and keep going Natsu will eventually sustain too much damage and be defeated.
Naruto is faster than light
Debatable
@@icedemon8419 that is not debatable
@@LuchaSlime It is
We all know spsm naruto stomps natsu but can natsu fight eighth gate might guy
This comment section is toxic af
I disagree zeref arc natsu should pretty easily smack up zeref almost zero diff
If that were true how come Zeref zero diffed Natsu by punching him through the chest essentially killing him? And the only way he survived was by Lucy rewriting the book of END
@@infinitesession5439 I meant naruto not zeref
@@calvinsling9859 Naruto even worse. Naruto would no diff him by mere speed and seal him or kill him the same way zeref killed him. He could also throw a Rasenshuriken which natsu probably wouldn't survive (you can only survive it if you have immense regenerative abilities or enough durability to withstand over a million blade cuts, tho by kakashi's words almost infinite). He could also be blitz and shot up into space with a giant Rasengan. Or disintegrated by truth seeking orbs or have his life taken away from Baryon mode or be completely vaporized by a Bijuu Bomb Rasenshuriken. Naruto has alot of options and ways to no diff Natsu.
@@infinitesession5439 lmao natsus heat radiation is enough to simply reduce naruto to ash
@@calvinsling9859 What does Zeref scale to?
not only natsu that cant kill acnalogia. also naruto cant defeat madar on his own hand. by the help of sasuke, kakashi. obito, sakura. so wtf that naruto is stonger?/? nonsense discussion
So your saying a moon buster is weaker than a continental buster gtfo
Adult Naruto is stronger because 1 he has both halves of kurama as opposed to his teenager self at the end of the series so his power doubled and he has mastery of sage mode, Siz paths Sage mode and gathering sage energy and using the chakra from all tailed beasts plus the 10+ years of training/experience naruto has gathered with his powers. He is many many many times stronger than His teenager self who was fighting on par with 1 Rinnegan Madara and even kept up for a few moments with Kaguya all alone.
I think you fail to understand that Madara is immortal
@B!ackhole Andrason zeref being immortal doesn't mean shit. Truth seeking balls automatically cancel out any attacks/passive effects like a curse and kill anyone who doesn't have six paths chakra. It's capable of killing zeref. The least Naruto can do without the orbs is knock zeref's head off. Being immortal doesn't mean u can't take damage. And Naruto faced people that were "immortal" and actually the fuinjutsu Naruto used on the 9 tails is more than enough to actually seal zeref. He's no where a threat compared to kaguya
@B!ackhole Andrason Naruto still has 6 paths u moron. He just doesn't use it as much anymore. Since he's become hokage there's rly no use for them unless he's fighting someone who can bust stars like momoshiki. He used six paths senjutsu. In his eyes he doesn't have orange pigments which indicates he still has six paths. If Naruto didn't have six paths anymore then Sasuke won't have his rinnegan anymore.
I've watch naruto and fairytail but naruto is stronger than natsu he can even beat all the fairytail mages.
True stuff
Your full shit. natsu as E.N.D could easily kill Naruto and that's fact's
@@infinitesession5439 zeref can kill everyone in Naruto at the same time if he wanted to so what Zia Ly is false both of you need to do more research on fairy tail before you talk shit that's not true and Acnologia could also kill everyone in Naruto so your claim is false. Natsu is stronger than Naruto plus Naruto can't hold a candle to a actual god where as natsu beat one and has beat one
@@BenaresDarkness so your saying Zeref cant be killed or sealed even though Naruto has two abilities that can kill him or seal him. Bruh seems like you dont know what your talking about. There are other ways to stop and immortal lol. Truth seeking orbs erase whatever they touch if a person does not have Six paths powers. Bro Zeref cant kill any God tiers in the Naruto verse sorry to burst your bubble.
@@infinitesession5439 zerefs magic is death your not understanding that no one in Naruto can stop it and no they are not strong enough to kill or seal him his regenerative ability is way stronger than anyone in Naruto and if he had fairy law then I don't care what you say they would NOT stand any chance what so ever. your making fairy tail out to be weak I 100% guarantee that no one in Naruto could beat Acnologia. I've watched all of Naruto so I know what he is capable of doing. I watched a video on how strong he is and he's only planet level natsu has the power to tear space and time which no one in Naruto does so no they do not stand a chance. I bet you 100% that you think I'm butt hurt but I'm not. No character in Naruto is a god and you making fire dragon king mode to be weak which it's not it could slap that fox around like nothing. End of story go do research
naruto is good than natsu
man dont underestimate natsu .100 year quest is coming and he eventually increse hi power.natsu had defeated agnalogia the dragon king, that dragon could consume any magic.so naruto cant take a chance with natsu .the factor that make natsu more popwerful than naruto is
* emotion and he could consume any enrgy if had great desire we can understood that it from the episode of tower heavens .and it could poisn him .but natsu's great desire to help his friends made him to do that.and rrisk his life at any cost.natsu is the best
Natsu consuming any energy is a NLF and its been shown before he can't just eat any element. The only reason he was able to consume some magic from that tiny etherion shard was because it had properties of all magic including fire. That was specifically explained by erza. Also chakra =/= magic. They are both fundamentally different power systems. One is a life force where if one runs put of it they die and can only be used in increments. The other a power force that has no consequences and is used to make anything unexplainable, explainable..Also acnologia was defeated by friendship power and asspull. He was defeated by magic that a few panels before in the fight wasn't affecting him in the slightest. I'll give the benefit of the doubt that natsu became stronger in 100 years quest but not by much. Now Natsu can high diff BSM Naruto. War arc Six paths mode Naruto and his other forms above that however still oneshots 100 year quest Natsu.
@@infinitesession5439 then how come natsu eat laxus lightning .it's totally another element
@@ligiprathapan1642 he never ate laxus' lightning. Laxus gave the power to him.
1 Goku
2 Naruto
3Natsu
Because wherever you go Naruto always strongest and awwwwwwway above level than Natsu.
Like Goku is to Naruto
Nah it's actually:
Goku
Naruto
Ichigo
I'd really debate between Naruto and Ichigo. They're about equal.
Legend no love for luffy?🥺
@@marqusmedina5983 I have
@@jamtop1105 yeah
Final season Natsu could beat him as he beat time itself
Final season Natsu is the one I put up against Naruto and he still loses. He wasn't really burning time more he was burning magic.
@@infinitesession5439 true
@@infinitesession5439 goku vs natsu
@@whoknows6955 Goku would beat Natsu in a heartbeat. Unless you are talking about DragonBall original series goku when he defeated demon king piccolo then you got a fight there. Or if you are talking about the original DragonBall where goku comes back as a grown up and fight tien. I think those are more suitable candidates to face off against natsu. Anything in saiyan saga however is too much for natsu. Especially Post King kai training.
InfiniteSession thank you dumbass insane idiots like zero nova says that Natsu could beat Goku
I like
Natsu +infinite
Naruto -infinite
faka wty erza-infinite
Still beats natsu
Gildarts-infinite
Still beats natsu
Natsu is infinite but requires fire to gain power
@@aronguillen7951 after training i neven see natsu need fire
faka wty hundred year quest
@@aloebama7682 yeah *neven* is da word alrite
Natsu can eat other thing then just fire dummie he ate black flames lighting ethernano( all element) but have a side effect
Jayden Martin he cant eat another elements besides fire. The only reason. He ate ethernano is because it had a variety of elements which fire was one of them. Not to mention he gets poisoned if he even tries to eat anything else. Also I would like to point out he never ate lightning he just absorbed it somehow which was never explained.
InfiniteSession i know i just wanted to have a debate
GODONLY78 natsu has eaten things besides fire *etherion and lighting* and things besides magic *jackal's curse explosions* but can he do BOTH? If not Naruto wrecks.
Marqus Medina actually Natsu never ate lightning and hes only eaten Etherion cuz of it many proterties of magic and Jackals Explodes are based on fire magic so therefore he can eat them.
GODONLY78 bro I could eat fire it would just burn me... I can eat anything if I really wanted to
Naruto Can fly with six paths sage mode
natsu has dragon wings.it has lightning speed
You have the right taste
I saw natsu eos and he is saying island + and we should be happy LMAO
Tenrou natsu roar tore through an entire large island
You saying sage mode is mountain lvl 😂
Gladly add feats
Caz sage mode is highly large building busting
He whooped out sage mode and could not actually do any damage 😂
Base natsu > sage mode
1st off the tenrou feat was an amped up natsu via power he borrowed from other fairy tail memebers at the time(so thats not him casually doing it nor is withbhis own power). Also Tenrou is a really small island too (did we read the same manga and see the same island?). Like for real are you REALLY looking at the same material???
2. I said EoS Natsu is island level but my stance has changed since then. He's now clearly at large island small country level (though its more him going all out tho see his fight with aldoron who's literally a large island/small country sized thing).
3. Sage Mode Naruto is 100% mountain level bro. That's just pain arc too. I advise you to look up Naruto Sage mode Rasenshuriken manga and he sends across a mountain range it blows up a mountain.
4. Well if we compare Base EoS Natsu vs Pain arc Naruto its obvious Natsu is clearly stronger. War Arc Sage mode Naruto is multi mountain level since he is able to put out 2 Sage mode rasenshurikens out AT THE SAME time and even charge one that is strong enough to completely deflect several 10 tails tails(which each tail can destroy mountains) making Sage mode Naruto (war arc mountain range level to small island).
5. Any mode AFTER Naruto KCM2+SM is when Natsu straight up loses.
I place Current Natsu (meaning 100 years quest Natsu) about the same level as KCM2+SM Naruto in the war arc.
Trust me 6 paths mode Naruto and Any version After that is basically a God compared to Natsu. In the last movie Naruto no sells 2 moon continental attacks in a weaker form and destroyed a barrier that was strong enough to survive the impact of the moon crashing into the earth. That's planetary level of attack potency and if that isn't enough He is able to beat people who eat a planet's energy. Hokage Naruto is no contest Waaay stronger than Natsu (as of yet. Can't say for sure if he will be the same in a year or no).
@@infinitesession5439 I agree that naruto can beat natsu don't get me wrong but it will actually take 6path and a high difficulty to win
Naruto dodged a light attack from madara making his reaction speed ls
But base Wendy caught up with a ls character,not reaction speed but both travel and reaction and she was in base
Now u need to see the difference in power Btwn natsu and Wendy
Natsu burnt time, black hole, literally set the ground on fire,beat infinite magic and u here talking like bijuudama can beat natsu easy 😂
Naruto or kurama has no heat resistance feat to even compare to base natsu in episode one
That natsu used more fire than was shown in the entire series
Amaterasu 'hot as the sun 😂 ' but was seen on trees and water
Where natsu's body heat be melting stadiums and vapping lakes
There's literally nothing that naruto has to scale him to country lvl
That bijuudama + Indra arrow 😂 what it destroyed you can definitely see mountains in the same scene unless the mountain is country sized
What stops natsu from burning the bijuudama's 🤷♂
Naruto has no durability feat to even compare to natsu not at all
Ur placing current natsu to naruto vs obito 😂 🤦♂
Current natsu literally has a dragon scales protecting his body what's naruto actually goan do
6pth beats natsu eos high diff
@Henry Prince Dude Naruto in the light novels dodged several Light beams in base form. Naruto being LS isn't something new nor is it the same lol. ??? I'm sorry when in the world dud Wendy EVER move at light speeds. I want you to give me exact details on that because that's a new one lol.
@Henry Prince dude everything you just said is pure bs and it doesn't correlate to the manga at all. Natsu never burned a black hole or beat infinite magic lol. You can't burn something thats infinite otherwise it would mean it isn't infinite. Not only that, that doesn't even correlate to attack potency. I'm sorry but you lost the debate as soon as you even brought up light speed Wendy 🤣🤣🤣.
@Henry Natsu's flames seem to do that yet the fodders are either never feeling anything or it's not potent enough to hurt them ever. So I don't know what you were trying to say there. Then you say Indians arrow and Bijuu bomb Rasenshuriken clash is mountain level yet they lauched it from above the stratosphere (that's over 31 miles in height) and it still impacted the ENTIRE area around them and destroyed valley of the end without even touching it and the impact was felt countries away. And you calling it mountain level? Tf.
Natsu will win
Nah
Lalhluzuala Hlua how? He’s heavily outmatched and he has several weaknesses for naruto to exploit.
Natsu will beat him with his half dragon form
Lalhluzuala Hlua depends how long natsu can maintain it.
Until he defeat naruto
Not being bias and I’m fairly tail fan but naruto beat natsu
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Natsu new Dragon God MODE in Fairy Tail 100 years quest.He is AS STRONG AS GOKU
We already had this discussion bro.
No buddy
No not as strong as Goku
@@mryoung6090 Natsu is also 4th dimensional where Goku is 3rd.Natsu bruns time itself when he had battle with GOD Zeref. with that he has 8 transformations and a new God form and END demon god form where Goku is trash and He is now only for kids.Dragon Ball Super is for kids who dream power levels like kids.
@@saberpendragon8433 still not as strong as Goku
I got natsu scaled to high outer
No. Natsu ain't anywhere close to even be considered in that level lol nice try tho.
@@infinitesession5439 yoooo that’s the dude I was talking about!!!! He scaled him to outer!!!!
@@denismike4955 yeah this dude has no idea what he's talking about.
@@infinitesession5439 Wherls#0888 debate me on this
@@infinitesession5439 debate me on natsu vs naruto
That is your opinion
An opinion based on fact ma bro.
Reasonably logical unless there is one thats more logical do you have a more logical opinion?
@@PayArcanum more logical than the one I logically said before with pure logic?
Natsu best
In fact Naruto can't defeat natsu, natsu survived Jellal's magical attack which is the equivalent of being hit by seven asteroids. And Naruto can't last long in the face of natsu's attacks
What you said makes no sense. If jellals magic were truly as strong as a real asteroid then why wasn't the building entirely destroyed as he used it? Oh that's right its because he's not that strong. What you said makes 100% 0 sense. Especially considering Erza herself barely managed to destroy a meteor herself. Naruto destroyed 20 meteors casually. All of those meteors were bigger than the ones in fairy tail by a long shot. So what you said still makes 0 sense either way.
Natsu de srongets shonen ever
He's so strong that he beats all of Marvell and DC at the same time......lol
Natzu has the advantage
No he doesn't. Naruto solos fairytail verse.
Legend we meet again
Naruto wins
Dragon vs god
Seriously guys..
IKHML OFFICIAL more like reincarnated Demi god.
You put it saying natsu is a god he is a god
@@zeke625gameing8 I'm saying naruto
@@zeke625gameing8 natsu isn't a god. He's reincarnated as a demon but he lost that form at the end of the manga. Naruto is indeed part god since he's the incarnate of ashura who was a god.
Legend he put dragon vs god. The dragon is clearly natsu.
Uh uh uh stop saying uh
Thanks I'll keep that in mind for next time.
Natsu wins with difficulty
No bro not even close.
InfiniteSession yes bro .
@@agege give me one good reason how Natsu would win?
@@infinitesession5439 Because he's END, has BDKM, and He has Seven Dragon Flame mode
@@icedemon8419 all of which dont have significant feats that put him above Naruto.
Ya gay natsu would win
How?
@B!ackhole Andrason except Naruto can bust planets and that episode was non Canon. Natsu at best can bust a state.
No brainer
I like
Natsu 0%
Naruto1000000000000%
Natsu can kill naruto
master misho No. Its the other way around.
InfiniteSession correct ... I will say natsu is strong but like Naruto has sage mode tailed beast mode bijou mode sage of the six paths sage mode can make like 1,000,000 shadow clones must rasenshurikens and rasengans
naruto dont even need bijuu mode to kill natsu, even his sage mode can beat natsu like a fly
Naruto wins obviously
Naruto weakness is sharingan because it can control the nine taila which can kill naruto
Jayden Martin hmmm true however its quite possible though Kurama can wake him up since a genjutsu user can only put one individual in genjutsu at time. Other than that he doesnt have any other notable weaknesses.
InfiniteSession excluding infinite tsyukonomi.
So i disagree
Jayden Martin Uhhhh I mean You can disagree but its a clear fact if these two were pit against each other and at their full strength, Naruto would flat put win due to him having better feats and strong her overall feats.
GODONLY78 it's true he's right Naruto is way out of his league he has RASENGAN barrage RASENGAN shuriken turn tailed beast or bijou / bijuu however it's spelt rasengans not to mention tailed beast bomb Naruto got a special power from the sage of the six paths and he healed kakashi hatake's eye he matched the speed of the raikage which is hella fast he split the moon in half, and yes some people are actually saying Naruto got weaker in the boruto series... I ain't on that yet cause I'm waiting for the rest of the Naruto dubbed version to come out but I watched the Naruto boruto movie .... AAANNNNDDDD don't hate on this guy he's just speaking facts
nxl11 He got stronger in boruto bro. He has two halves of kurama and has 10+ years of experience, and he's can do everything he can do as his teenager self just boosted up with another half of kurama. Not to mention in base hokage Naruto made a rasengan that launched fused momoshiki out into orbit in seconds.