Would be useful and cool if you had a module on the Gibraltar website that allows users to build their own rig, position it the way they want in 3D, then it tells you which parts you need, which clamp or hinge and calculates the total price. Similar to the Sonor SQ2 drum configurator.
I feel very lucky to have found this video. For over a year, I’ve been looking for clamp that would fit my needs…and now I will search no longer. The sc-gcsra fills my requirement completely. Thank you so much.
Gibraltar SC-GPRMC Power Rack Multi Clamp is best for me . Not a drummer & utilizing Gibraltar clamps for heath aids sunbrella for a 4 wheeled walker . thanx for your informative clampology & all that you do ! ()
Gibraltar gear is superb! I've used several clamps this week to build a custom stand for the microscope I use to build micro-soldered electronics boards. The clamps have no play, so the microscope arm doesn't shake and it all fits on my small workbench. I used this video to give ma some guidance so I could visualise before ordering.
The plan is to mount a SC-LBBT cymbal arm for my ride cymbal on the front leg of the GSSMS and I want a 20" crash above it. I also have a 19" crash next to the ride so in order to get my 20" crash where I want it i need to tilt a curved bar a bit forward to clear the other cymbals. It's not a dramatic angle but maby 15 to 20 degrees. I would prefer to use the SC-GCSAR becouse that gives me the ability to move the curved bar up and down if I need to adjust the height.
SC-GRSHKML I have after thoughts at EVERY show haha either I add, remove, or reposition something on my set-up. It's always nice to know that with this hindged memory lock, I don't have to dismantle my entire rack to do so. THANKS GIBRALTAR!!!!!!!!!
I'm planning on a left side rack to come right off the front of my Stealth Rack (GSVMS), the clamps i'm going to use for it is all going to be chrome. I'll start off w/ the Adjustable right angle clamp (sc-gcara),a 24'' curved wing and i'll cut it in half, the sc-guatc clamp, a 46'' curved crossbar, another adjustable right angle clamp (sc-gcsar), a 30'' curved tube, and a 40'' curved tube (i'm thinking about doing the same design as the 2012 NAMM rack, and Hannah Ford's Rack that Brent bulit), sc-rmaa, the sc-rba, sc-gcsmc (2), the sc-gcrmc (2), and for those multi clamps, i'm getting the chrome hinged memory lock (wing nut version), and last but not least the sc-gcml for the 46'' curved crossbar. Quiz answer for Brent : I think it's the sc-gcsar (the adjustable chrome right angle clamp).
The memory clamp is the most useful. In addition to helping set everything up the same way every time, the memory clamps provide additional support for my heavier drums.
I would definitely use memory locks for any items that have any kind of weight to them, to help prevent slippage. Clamps that hold drums should absolutely be memory locked. You won’t need a memory lock for splash cymbals because there is not enough weight to make the clamp slip. I would also add them to the frame of the rack where tubes connect to prevent a cross bar from slipping if you have a number of items being mounted to it.
The csra is cool but the Guat is very cool putting a swivel on is the way to go I build racks and have built alot using Gibraltar pipes and clamps for years I would always have to modify or straight up build my own clamps brackets etc seems u guys are getting out of the old mold so to speak and I love it nice work guys and great video
The standard and super multi clamps will work with Pearl tom arms. Our hardware is not brand specific. We design our gear to work with all brands. We did a video a few years ago showing how you can adapt a Pearl drum set to a Gibraltar rack. Standard multi clamps SC-GRSMC (black version) SC-GCRMC (chrome version) Super multi clamps SC-GRSSMC (black version) SC-GCSMC (black version)
i use the standard 90 degree black clamps at all 3 vertical posts on my rack, the old style t-leg assemblies, both for legs and my snare basket, standard multi clamps for cymbal booms and my primary snare, and super multiclamps for 4 of 5 toms. the toms have the wingnut memory locks on at least one side, the 14" uses 2. the t-legs and 'knuckles' of the rack use slip on memory locks. so really, they're all pretty damn useful to me.. lol
Brent & Co., I own 2 Gibraltar curved road racks for my Gretsch acoustic kit & my home Roland Vdrum kit. My Question is: Should I buy 3 Standard multi-clamps or 3 Super multi-clamps for my Gretsch 8", 10", & 12" rack toms? Thx.
Assuming such an item doesn't already exist in your catalogue, would it be possible to take the rotating mechanism for the clamps @1:15 and apply 2 of them to something like the SC-4429, making a sort of double multi-angle multiclamp? i.e. like the head part of the SC-APM but with rotational adjustment rather than horizontal.
I did it years ago, took 4 of their tube clamps with tom fittings an put them together to form two multi rotating tube clamps using twin thumbwheel fittings (one being fixed) with an extra long screw bolt thro them. It was fitted with 3 cymbal clamps (one was for a cable hat) an 2 tom holders on the top rack. The legs simply folded up using the thumbwheeel tube clamps, I could carry the folded up rack in one hand. I had the only twin tube folding clamp rack set up. Worked for me. Even Gibraltar at a local trade show, were amazed when I told them..
However, if you do not want to go a standard rack route, you can purchase all bars and clamps separately to design your own custom rack. With the standard rack packages, you will need your own snare baskets, tom arms, and cymbal arms, as the rack only comes with the clamps and tubes needed to build it. If you do not have the snare baskets, toms arms, and cymbal arms, we have them available as well.
i just ordered a GSSMS Stealth Side Mount from my online retailer here in south africa , I reading through the parts list now and looking at the video and reading your comment , it has dawned upon my i just bought something useless. Why sell the rack with no clamps to connect stuff onto the rack? you could have even marked up the price to cover their costs. The shit thing is no where in my country does anyone sell these loose clamps.. nowhere .. and due to our currency weakness to the dollar .. ordering two from overseas will cost me the same price as this whole system I just bought. I absolutely boiling mad now. How could you do this. Sell something that immediately needs you to have to buy the rest of it via add ons. Thats pretty shameful, im sorry .. and as mentioned, I cant get those parts anyway .. so you wasted my money on buying this rack .. with no clamps .. thanks a million. NO effort was made, absolutely NO EFFORT to clearly explain that add on parts would be needed. Not in word or in video sample. You video samples show it full of add ons , again shame on you.
We offer standard rack packages that will work with any kind of set up, and you will not have to buy piece by piece. You can then customize/personalize these standard racks with additional parts we sell separately.
At the Gibraltar website, it's not mentioned that which diameter poles or rod are compatible with these clamps. Is there any brochure or manual for these clamps?
Thanks for the comment. No we do not have a brochure with this info available, but here is a rule of thumb you can use for all Gibraltar rack clamps. All pole to pole clamps are 1.5” in diameter for each side. The accessory clamp side to attach a boom arm to a rack will accept a 1/2” diameter to 1-1/8” diameter.
Are the SC-GCARA and the SC-GCSAR clamps strong enough to support a 36" or 40" curved bar with a 20" crash? Which one would you recommend? I'm thinking about getting a GSSMS and since I have several cymbals on my right side I need one of the curved bars to be mounted at an angle to clear other cymbals.
I want to have a horizontal laptop stand sitting above my VDrum module. But rather it being floor standing, I want to have it clamped to the horizontal bar on my rack. Can anyone recommend a set of Gibraltar bars and clamps which could do this? This video was really informative but Im still left wondering how to go about creating this unusual setup.
carpii if you look at Roland electronic company they have things that hook to a clamp a free what they're called but they you can melt like laptops and drum modules and stuff like that but they have several they're like little tabletops to attachment that go into a clamp but they're pretty cool and they're pretty sturdy to I'm not sure if your browser carries that kind of stuff but I imagine they would
What are the memory locks used on the rack T legs? I need to dis assemble my Stealth Rack and I need 2 memory locks to re attach the long bar to the T legs.
When you buy a rack do you need to design it yourself or are there standerd racks already put together with all clamps and baskets right out of the box So if i tell them how many drums i have the sizes how many cymbals can i get everything in one kit or do i have to figure every piece i need
Hey JP, how did you get on with this? I ordered a 3 sided but got slippage from the bar when adding my 14” and 16” toms. Did this do the trick? If so, I’ll try out the SC-GCSMC 👍
Matthew Nowell someone asked that question earlier up in the comment section Gibraltar stuff goes well with the pro rack system they made them pretty much non specific so you can use them in other manufacturers setups
and a tip for drummers on a budget, standard horizontal fence post is 1.5" diameter. sure its not chrome and pretty, but its CHEAP at the local hardware store. also old swing sets use 1.5" steel tubes too. its not only cost effective, but it can add an industrial look to your kit without being flashy..ive used it as the bar that my snare basket mounts to for years.. :)
+Andrew Mccracken have a look at the hinged memory lock, SC-GCHML (chrome) or SC-GRSHML (black). They will prevent any of your clamps from slipping. They will also memorize the positioning of your multi clamps should you ever need to take them off for any reason.
I accordance with this post, there's always been a myth of Gibraltar racks and clamps slipping, because they're round. I've been using Gibraltar racks for years, and NEVER had ay slipping. And my drums aren't light! 14" Pearl CZX rack tom, boomed out at an angle off the rack? ZERO slipping. You do need memory locks as well as clamps, but used correctly, your Gibraltar rack will never slip! One thing so many don't realise, is don't overtighten! It's as bad as not tightening enough!
Matt Cowan that would be the old Gibraltar style plastic clamps the new stuff specially with the littleL tightening thing whatever they call it probably hold very tight just saying but yeah worn out quite a few of those little plastic ones kind of dating ourselves here
No, it is one piece and cannot split apart. It's hinged together. I had to replace the two that came with my Gibraltar GCS-450C 4-Post Curved Rack because I need my side bars to be slightly lower than my front bar. My front bar is raised all the way up so the bottom of my rack toms clear my bass drum (just barely, and my bass is 20" and my toms are 12" x 9" & 13" x 10"); my side bars are lower so I can pull them tight and my hi-hat and ride cymbal are closer to me. I play a very tight kit and the SC-GCSRAs didn't give me flexibility.
FYI: SC -GCMAMC is the current code for the Chrome multi-angle/multi-clamp. Tried to use the one depicted on this dated video and came up with nothing.
Can't get any help with mine after I bought my rack from them ..i need more hardware to make mine a dual bass rack .once they sell you something they are done with you ...no more contact ...it sucks
Randy Justice we are sorry if we have missed your attempts to contact us. Please send us an email to contact@gibraltarhardware.com. Please allow us a few days to respond. Our team is just getting back from the NAMM show.
Would be useful and cool if you had a module on the Gibraltar website that allows users to build their own rig, position it the way they want in 3D, then it tells you which parts you need, which clamp or hinge and calculates the total price. Similar to the Sonor SQ2 drum configurator.
that's a great idea they should totally do that
Great idea that would cost a ton of money to do and maintain sadly
I feel very lucky to have found this video. For over a year, I’ve been looking for clamp that would fit my needs…and now I will search no longer. The sc-gcsra fills my requirement completely. Thank you so much.
Gibraltar SC-GPRMC Power Rack Multi Clamp is best for me . Not a drummer & utilizing Gibraltar clamps for heath aids sunbrella for a 4 wheeled walker . thanx for your informative clampology & all that you do !
()
Gibraltar gear is superb! I've used several clamps this week to build a custom stand for the microscope I use to build micro-soldered electronics boards. The clamps have no play, so the microscope arm doesn't shake and it all fits on my small workbench. I used this video to give ma some guidance so I could visualise before ordering.
This is so damn helpful for clarifying a part of the drum gear world that numbs my brain. Thanks for posting!
These thorough videos are fantastic! Even 5+ years later!
Even 9
Great video. Looking forward to the GRMH-7Q-CMMSGRRR-ADTY.1 clamp!
You forgot SC-
The plan is to mount a SC-LBBT cymbal arm for my ride cymbal on the front leg of the GSSMS and I want a 20" crash above it. I also have a 19" crash next to the ride so in order to get my 20" crash where I want it i need to tilt a curved bar a bit forward to clear the other cymbals. It's not a dramatic angle but maby 15 to 20 degrees. I would prefer to use the SC-GCSAR becouse that gives me the ability to move the curved bar up and down if I need to adjust the height.
Gibraltar Hardware's clamps ROCK!!!
SC-GRSHKML I have after thoughts at EVERY show haha either I add, remove, or reposition something on my set-up. It's always nice to know that with this hindged memory lock, I don't have to dismantle my entire rack to do so. THANKS GIBRALTAR!!!!!!!!!
I'm planning on a left side rack to come right off the front of my Stealth Rack (GSVMS), the clamps i'm going to use for it is all going to be chrome. I'll start off w/ the Adjustable right angle clamp (sc-gcara),a 24'' curved wing and i'll cut it in half, the sc-guatc clamp, a 46'' curved crossbar, another adjustable right angle clamp (sc-gcsar), a 30'' curved tube, and a 40'' curved tube (i'm thinking about doing the same design as the 2012 NAMM rack, and Hannah Ford's Rack that Brent bulit), sc-rmaa, the sc-rba, sc-gcsmc (2), the sc-gcrmc (2), and for those multi clamps, i'm getting the chrome hinged memory lock (wing nut version), and last but not least the sc-gcml for the 46'' curved crossbar.
Quiz answer for Brent : I think it's the sc-gcsar (the adjustable chrome right angle clamp).
The memory clamp is the most useful. In addition to helping set everything up the same way every time, the memory clamps provide additional support for my heavier drums.
I would definitely use memory locks for any items that have any kind of weight to them, to help prevent slippage. Clamps that hold drums should absolutely be memory locked. You won’t need a memory lock for splash cymbals because there is not enough weight to make the clamp slip. I would also add them to the frame of the rack where tubes connect to prevent a cross bar from slipping if you have a number of items being mounted to it.
My one piece folding rack had memory clamps for cymbal, cable hat an tom holders.
Set up was very fast, as a result...
The csra is cool but the Guat is very cool putting a swivel on is the way to go I build racks and have built alot using Gibraltar pipes and clamps for years I would always have to modify or straight up build my own clamps brackets etc seems u guys are getting out of the old mold so to speak and I love it nice work guys and great video
The standard and super multi clamps will work with Pearl tom arms. Our hardware is not brand specific. We design our gear to work with all brands. We did a video a few years ago showing how you can adapt a Pearl drum set to a Gibraltar rack.
Standard multi clamps
SC-GRSMC (black version)
SC-GCRMC (chrome version)
Super multi clamps
SC-GRSSMC (black version)
SC-GCSMC (black version)
GibraltarDIY nice to see a company that use non-specific parts to meet their customers needs
I need to know more about where you're planning to mount the bar, and what your mounting it too. Which direction is the bar going?
i use the standard 90 degree black clamps at all 3 vertical posts on my rack, the old style t-leg assemblies, both for legs and my snare basket, standard multi clamps for cymbal booms and my primary snare, and super multiclamps for 4 of 5 toms. the toms have the wingnut memory locks on at least one side, the 14" uses 2. the t-legs and 'knuckles' of the rack use slip on memory locks. so really, they're all pretty damn useful to me.. lol
Brent & Co.,
I own 2 Gibraltar curved road racks for my Gretsch acoustic kit & my home Roland Vdrum kit.
My Question is: Should I buy 3 Standard multi-clamps or 3 Super multi-clamps for my Gretsch 8", 10", & 12" rack toms? Thx.
Standard multi clamps will work, but the super multi clamp will give you added stability. Especially the larger the drum.
Assuming such an item doesn't already exist in your catalogue, would it be possible to take the rotating mechanism for the clamps @1:15 and apply 2 of them to something like the SC-4429, making a sort of double multi-angle multiclamp? i.e. like the head part of the SC-APM but with rotational adjustment rather than horizontal.
I did it years ago, took 4 of their tube clamps with tom fittings an put them together to form two multi rotating tube clamps using twin thumbwheel fittings (one being fixed) with an extra long screw bolt thro them.
It was fitted with 3 cymbal clamps (one was for a cable hat) an 2 tom holders on the top rack.
The legs simply folded up using the thumbwheeel tube clamps, I could carry the folded up rack in one hand.
I had the only twin tube folding clamp rack set up.
Worked for me.
Even Gibraltar at a local trade show, were amazed when I told them..
What piece would you need to mount two Gretsch Catalina rack toms to the Gibraltar rack?
DrummerJacob SC-GCSMC Super multi clamp
*Clamp robot from Futurama* "Looks like somebody wants the CLAMPS!!!"
You win the comments section
However, if you do not want to go a standard rack route, you can purchase all bars and clamps separately to design your own custom rack. With the standard rack packages, you will need your own snare baskets, tom arms, and cymbal arms, as the rack only comes with the clamps and tubes needed to build it. If you do not have the snare baskets, toms arms, and cymbal arms, we have them available as well.
i just ordered a GSSMS Stealth Side Mount from my online retailer here in south africa , I reading through the parts list now and looking at the video and reading your comment , it has dawned upon my i just bought something useless. Why sell the rack with no clamps to connect stuff onto the rack? you could have even marked up the price to cover their costs. The shit thing is no where in my country does anyone sell these loose clamps.. nowhere .. and due to our currency weakness to the dollar .. ordering two from overseas will cost me the same price as this whole system I just bought. I absolutely boiling mad now. How could you do this. Sell something that immediately needs you to have to buy the rest of it via add ons. Thats pretty shameful, im sorry .. and as mentioned, I cant get those parts anyway .. so you wasted my money on buying this rack .. with no clamps .. thanks a million. NO effort was made, absolutely NO EFFORT to clearly explain that add on parts would be needed. Not in word or in video sample. You video samples show it full of add ons , again shame on you.
Lock in the angle. That is awesome!
I swear, gibralter is like Legos for drummers
I know the clamps are designed for 1.5” tube but will they tighten on a smaller diameter tube? Thanks
No, they're only meant for 1.5" unless you get one of the multi-clamps. One end is for 1.5", and the other can do smaller diameter.
We offer standard rack packages that will work with any kind of set up, and you will not have to buy piece by piece. You can then customize/personalize these standard racks with additional parts we sell separately.
For me sir Brent,..
the most useful clamps,.. are all of them hehe
super informative dude.
At the Gibraltar website, it's not mentioned that which diameter poles or rod are compatible with these clamps. Is there any brochure or manual for these clamps?
Thanks for the comment. No we do not have a brochure with this info available, but here is a rule of thumb you can use for all Gibraltar rack clamps.
All pole to pole clamps are 1.5” in diameter for each side.
The accessory clamp side to attach a boom arm to a rack will accept a 1/2” diameter to 1-1/8” diameter.
Are the SC-GCARA and the SC-GCSAR clamps strong enough to support a 36" or 40" curved bar with a 20" crash? Which one would you recommend? I'm thinking about getting a GSSMS and since I have several cymbals on my right side I need one of the curved bars to be mounted at an angle to clear other cymbals.
How do you make use of the SC RMAA cymbal mounts?
I want to have a horizontal laptop stand sitting above my VDrum module. But rather it being floor standing, I want to have it clamped to the horizontal bar on my rack. Can anyone recommend a set of Gibraltar bars and clamps which could do this? This video was really informative but Im still left wondering how to go about creating this unusual setup.
+carpii www.gibraltarhardware.com/index.cfm?fa=partsdetail&curcat=2&bnd=11&cid=119&sid=663&pid=2403
+GibraltarDIY Thankyou!
carpii if you look at Roland electronic company they have things that hook to a clamp a free what they're called but they you can melt like laptops and drum modules and stuff like that but they have several they're like little tabletops to attachment that go into a clamp but they're pretty cool and they're pretty sturdy to I'm not sure if your browser carries that kind of stuff but I imagine they would
What are the memory locks used on the rack T legs? I need to dis assemble my Stealth Rack and I need 2 memory locks to re attach the long bar to the T legs.
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Is there any way I can connect a 1 1/2” curved tube 90degrees horizontally off of the SC-APM down pipe?
Sauron191 thanks for your question. Yes this is possible. All you need is the SC-GCSMC Chrome Super Multi Clamp
When you buy a rack do you need to design it yourself or are there standerd racks already put together with all clamps and baskets right out of the box So if i tell them how many drums i have the sizes how many cymbals can i get everything in one kit or do i have to figure every piece i need
Kevin's vlog I can design a rack for you brother
I have ordered a GCS-450C rack for my double bass kit. Will one of the included multi clamps be sufficient in holding a 14”x12” rack tom?
JP you can, but I would suggest using a super multi clamp, SC-GCSMC for extra stability since that is such a large drum
GibraltarDIY Thanks, I will order one in the near future (or 2 😂)
Hey JP, how did you get on with this? I ordered a 3 sided but got slippage from the bar when adding my 14” and 16” toms. Did this do the trick? If so, I’ll try out the SC-GCSMC 👍
Brent !!! U nr1!!!
Which one can hold 7/8" tube?
Either the regular multi-clamp, the multi-angle multi-clamp, or the super multi-clamp. As long as the other end is attached to a 1.5" bar.
SC-GRSRA or the SC-GCSRA. this is my most used clamp I have on my spider rack set up.
It serves as much help this video thanks ..
I want to study clampology when I go to college
HahahHHHHaahahahhahaah
Which clamps would work with a Pearl style tube tom mount?
Matthew Nowell someone asked that question earlier up in the comment section Gibraltar stuff goes well with the pro rack system they made them pretty much non specific so you can use them in other manufacturers setups
and a tip for drummers on a budget, standard horizontal fence post is 1.5" diameter. sure its not chrome and pretty, but its CHEAP at the local hardware store. also old swing sets use 1.5" steel tubes too. its not only cost effective, but it can add an industrial look to your kit without being flashy..ive used it as the bar that my snare basket mounts to for years.. :)
the clamps that came with my rack alway slide down cause the can handle the weight of my toms what one would work for toms
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for the comment. Are you using memory locks with your clamps? They will prevent your clamps from slipping.
+GibraltarDIY no I do not have memory locks for them
+Andrew Mccracken have a look at the hinged memory lock, SC-GCHML (chrome) or SC-GRSHML (black). They will prevent any of your clamps from slipping. They will also memorize the positioning of your multi clamps should you ever need to take them off for any reason.
+GibraltarDIY okay, thanks for replying and the help
+Andrew Mccracken no problem! Glad to help out 😜
the sc-grsssra in black would make a useful rack foot clamp too......
Merci de m'expliquer Comment fixer le stand de caisse claire sans pied 9706 NL.
I like the G Clamp.
all the above
I accordance with this post, there's always been a myth of Gibraltar racks and clamps slipping, because they're round. I've been using Gibraltar racks for years, and NEVER had ay slipping. And my drums aren't light! 14" Pearl CZX rack tom, boomed out at an angle off the rack? ZERO slipping. You do need memory locks as well as clamps, but used correctly, your Gibraltar rack will never slip! One thing so many don't realise, is don't overtighten! It's as bad as not tightening enough!
Matt Cowan that would be the old Gibraltar style plastic clamps the new stuff specially with the littleL tightening thing whatever they call it probably hold very tight just saying but yeah worn out quite a few of those little plastic ones kind of dating ourselves here
Is it possible to separate the SC-GCSRA into to 2?
No, it is one piece and cannot split apart. It's hinged together. I had to replace the two that came with my Gibraltar GCS-450C 4-Post Curved Rack because I need my side bars to be slightly lower than my front bar. My front bar is raised all the way up so the bottom of my rack toms clear my bass drum (just barely, and my bass is 20" and my toms are 12" x 9" & 13" x 10"); my side bars are lower so I can pull them tight and my hi-hat and ride cymbal are closer to me. I play a very tight kit and the SC-GCSRAs didn't give me flexibility.
FYI: SC -GCMAMC is the current code for the Chrome multi-angle/multi-clamp. Tried to use the one depicted on this dated video and came up with nothing.
My favorite one is the SC-URAQT
Can't get any help with mine after I bought my rack from them ..i need more hardware to make mine a dual bass rack .once they sell you something they are done with you ...no more contact ...it sucks
Randy Justice we are sorry if we have missed your attempts to contact us. Please send us an email to contact@gibraltarhardware.com. Please allow us a few days to respond. Our team is just getting back from the NAMM show.
Round tubing has never worked for me as it tends to slip and roll. Square tubing is the only way to go.
Yes and no. Who else produces drum racks with square tubing besides Pearl?
#MemoryLocks
good info
Right angle multi clamp
SC-GCML, SC-GCHKML, SC-GCSMC, and the SC-GCRA.
lol love all of the clamps but Gibraltar seriously needs to be more creative with their names lol. Poor Brent, "Now, this is the SC- GRSSRA"
I'm assuming Brent has a PhD in Rackology and a minor in Clampology
CR7TheGunner 2013 was a great year for him. He got paid hella money for all these Gibraltar vids.
Male and female? How dare you assume the memory lock's gender?
Primordial Metalitis I read that and greta's facial image popped in my head. very disturbing. lol
junk
First dislike hahahaha
BuZkaVEVO 2nd