Which is Stronger Cheap Wrench or Expensive Wrench? Hydraulic Press Test!
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- Опубликовано: 7 июн 2019
- Which is the best tool brand? Who makes toughest wrenches? We will use our 40 ton hydraulic press and 150 ton force sensor to find out are more expensive tools worth it or are the cheap ones just as good or even better!
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For more tool mayhem check out our previous test videos ruclips.net/video/YUFNSvsaMaA/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/1sdDeJyG9ZE/видео.html
Great test and exceptional results for the different brands. I had an idea for another crush/strength test. How about powdered vs forged vs aluminum connecting rods? I-Beam vs H-Beam designs?
Good luck getting that bolt off now
Or AvE.
Biltema was really positive surprise.
Bacho was a dissapointing. Maybe it was gone bad. Did you check best before date?
Got to love some weekend Mayhem. 👍
Anni's Finland Friday had the Mayhem Machine blender. And now some HPC mayhem. I hope BTP lava BBQ tomorrow has at least a little mayhem too. 👌😁🇺🇸
I routinely put 640kg of pressure on my wrenches. My shoulder always snaps off
You should use Snap-On wrenches so your shoulder won't snap off. 👍😁
LMAO :-D i can picture it in my head,you pulling the wrench and your arm popping off lol
This guy must be arm fall off boy from dc comics. If youve never heard of him look it up, his power is to rup his arm off, use it as a weapon, and reattach it.
You can act put that much force with a long enough pipe over the wrench
You'd do well in the All-Drug Olympics:
ruclips.net/video/jAdG-iTilWU/видео.html
"The finnish is really rough" 6:52
But the English is pretty good.
Underated comment.
How about his combination french? 😁👍
Its norwegian.
I just came to see some torque being applied to some french's.
It would be funny if you made a video of trying to exchange the bent wrenches under warranty to see the reaction of the store clerk. They would probably think "I'm not going to mess with this guy if he can do that to a wrench!"
He was probably told, when fetching the tools from the shops, that it's automatically warranty void when the buyer is Hydraulic Press Channel.
You can get warranties on wrenches??
Now I wish I had the ability to bend wrenches. I’d totally do it!!
I knew a guy who abused tools back in the 70s driving a tow truck and this was before jaws of life etc. so wrecker drivers helped fire departments at the scene. Anyway, the point is, he just took them back to Sears since Craftsman had lifetime warranties, regardless.
There is an old wrestler who can still crush apples in his bare hand. He can also bend pliers in one hand.
Imho I think it should have been maximum yield torque before permanent deformation. So from 1st to last.
1st 120
2nd 240
3rd 180
4th 620
5th 240
Last 300
Right; also (certainly on the first one) even the deformed max of 300 measured was when the press head was further up the handle, so the distance changed quite a bit... was only like 240 before then.
and biltema nr2 the 5th one i dont think it was calibrated
good thing my garage have a lot of the strong biltema type ;)
Agree
You should hold a competition for designers. Something like who can design strongest pre-given shape from bamboo skewer sticks, spaghetti or timothy-grass straws. It would be fun to see what kind of designs people come up. (By designers I mean everyone who is interested ;).)
Terri Paju if the shapes pre given it would completly defeat the purpose because a triangle would win
Like those school competitions to build little bridges or egg-protecting devices? Just limit the amount and size of materials and let the designers do whatever they want.
I think the first one only went so high, because it touched the press tool at the edge at the end, thus having a shorter lever.
Yep exactly.
I think there was a bit to be desired in terms of controls. The angle being one that probably matters more than we realize.
Still fun to watch though
@@IanSmithKSP Agreed, it is documented well. That is how I could tell in the first place. And finding details like that make the videos so interesting.
Indeed. This test could have been made so much more accurately by using a little bit of brain. But as usually, they don't. Like the wrenches being different length. Interesting content whatsoever.
First one failed at 260kg.
Looks like I'm going to be ordering some heavy Biltema wrenches soon!
IF you need help with international orders from Biltema I can lend a hand
Swedish steel is the best! ;)
@@icenberg6658 Their tools are generic Chinese, though. They just don't bother with fancy in-store brand names and just use their literal store name instead.
You should measure force before the tool bends, not maximum force during the press. The wrench is obviously destroyed waaaaayyyyy before the maximum force point. The first wrench looks like it fails around 85 kg, while the expensive wrench gets to about 200 kg before it's wrecked. The force gets a lot higher after the wrenches are trashed.
I would really like to see a video where you use the press to cook a steak or something. Tenderize the meat, crush some garlic, crush peppercorns and salt, slice butter. I want to be convinced that every kitchen should have a hydraulic press! 😊
no.
HEY you actually did this video, thanks!
Another great testing video!
New HPC video?!? AND HERE VE GO!
John Busakowski YEP!
🤣😁👍
4:09 Your typical saturday evening :D
"The wrench snapp-ed, and now Anni has a new ring to wear!"
It might go well with the ball-bearing bracelet he once made for her. Maybe a drive-chain necklace could be next??? 👍😁
I've never clicked so fast! I love your videos!
Satisfying HPC videos are the BEST videos
can you do a video of press vs an arch (wood, brick, and stone)?
There is definitely diminishing returns as tools get more expensive, you're paying for the finish not so much all in strength. Great video!
But finish can be the difference between a tool that enjoyable to use and one that isn't. If you're using it every day, getting the good stuff initially is probably a good bet. After all, you only buy one wrench assuming you don't lose it. (maybe the more expensive one will have an intensive to keep track of it!).
@@LazerLord10 totally agree I love my good quality tools 👍
@@LazerLord10 if they are just steel and not chrome you can polish them up your self.
@@ionstorm66 and spend hours on it while you could spend that time at work and buy the better ones and still save a lot of money. Yes good idea 😂
You can't evaluate it by what it can resist divided by money. There is only certain limit a steel can endure and getting closer to that limit demands more and more quality as you are coming closer. Just like the best sportscars. You don't compare them by how fast they can go divided by how much they cost. When you're approaching better and better results, every extra kph or every extra bhp demands a lot more cost and quality because that extra little speed can be the final difference between first and second place or between success and failure. So the value goes up exponentially with quality. You could make a wrench from crap and sell it for 10 pence. It would still hold 100 kg, which makes it's performance/money ratio many times better than all the stuff we have seen in the video, but when you need to fix really tough stuff you will need something better and the tougher it gets the tougher tools you will need, so that extra 100 or 200 kg resistance can be the difference between your success or failure. Good wrench will not only resist some more pressure but it will also keep it's shape for the rest of your live while the cheap one will bend and wear out just like we saw in the video.
You should see if an American viewer will send you tools made by common brands known in the US to test because it would be good for views
The shipping would be pretty bad as an expense. Steel weighs quite a lot. But yes, it would be interesting as a comparison. Harbor Freight's cheapest tool should definitely be included.
Haha ya he’d have to make a new insert. We use SAE not metric. Brands like Matco, Snap-on, Craftsman, Pittsburg (Harbor Freights brand) and a few of the Chinese brands.
@@duke9173 Really? I have more metric Snap-On and Mac in my toolbox than fractional by a factor of ten.
@@duke9173 brands like snap on, husky, matco etc all have metric sizes
It was a joke about SAE folks. The world thinks we are stuck in the imperial system. Lauri even put a Ft.lb/$ conversion on the screen. Roll with the yuck, yucks or get looser panties so they don’t get in a bunch.
Lauri. That was a good "french" 🔧 lesson.
I didn't know you also speak French. 😉👍
type "french wrench" in google translate and listen the difference...
difference not found
Tätähän olisi hyvä jalostaa niinpäin, että kuinka paljon erikokoiset/eri kovuuksiset mutterien/pulttien kannat kestää vääntää ennen nylppääntymistä.
Tämä!
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25 Euros is expensive for a wrench? Somebody's never bought Snap-On.
Mike L : Bahco is owned by SNA Europe, part of Snap-On Incorporated. Full Disclosure: I work for Snap-On Tools.
@@MrJamesLuz yes but snap on wrenches are made by wiliams usa
@@jusb1066 I don't think that is true as all J.H. Williams wrenches are a completely different pattern and snap on was making their own wrenches long before they acquired the Williams line of tools.
Ever heard of HAZET?
i would just likt to add that the euro is stronger than the dollar
So it isn't just me who tries to torque a nut to spec and bends the wrench in half? This is super helpful and I will remember to look for some beefier bois when I next go shopping for replacement wrenches.
Great content 😉
I suggest to make something like guide for these wrench’s handles. That make a pure test for max torque they can take.
Greetings
What about a rachet socket wrenches? Cheap vs expensive :)
Great suggestion
AvE has a great video on that. But I wouldn't mind seeing how HPC's testing methods would differ.
Who would have thought that Biltema was the best one. Absolutely amazing
nykäne yes definitely impressive to see the sheer strength .
It's important to note, that sometimes the job requires a softer tool, or even a tool that breaks. Sometimes the tool breaking means the item you are working on doesn't break.
Any HPC (or BTP) video when Lauri and/or Anni say "Uh oh!" is sure to be a good one. @6:05 👍😱
That "Ooooiii" was hilarious..!! 😂
Yay! Another set of 24mm angle wrenches. Custom made by HPC! 🙂
As a heavy duty mechanic, the only reason you buy more expensive wrenches are because they take longer to wear out the 12 point box section, and the strength of the open end. That and they feel nice.
The box section is always strong enough and it's very very rare to bend them in the middle, even on $5 wrenches. Test the open end and you should find a bigger difference.
Yeah the cheaper wrenches tend to be looser fit on the box and open end too. Loose fit means more rounded bolts and nuts.
Haven't watched it yet, but I'm betting on the expensive wrench snapping first! I'd imagine the cheap wrench is made of softer more malleable steel.
the stiffer harder wrench actually took the most force.
@@nathanl6003 He did say snap, he didn't say anything about how much force it would take
It "snappet"
Maybe test the strength of the ratchets in socket sets next?
Im suprised you didn't have an end on the press with a slot cut in it to keep wrenches from twisting
Luv you guys! For these wrench ones could you put a grove in the top plate so they only bend one way?
Cool test, for me not only strength but the precision accuracy also makes a big difference as far as stripping nuts and bolts .. usually shows from cheaper tools that I’ve experienced vs higher quality however this was interesting to see, thank you for the vid!
Testing the strength of wrenches is also a great way to get play doh off your press! Nice work!
Suggestion: you should write not only the freedom units, but normal units as well - anyways great vid as usual
@@MrBlindbird no he means metric
was the test really fair since the second one was not at the same angle as the first?
A snap on tool would be neat
The French typically hold about 23 tons of force before the Germans overwhelm them.
Tortilla Bear lol, i love history jokes.
Can you try diffrent types of shoe soles?
Snap-On vs Craftsman
vs kobalt vs husky vs matco vs bluepoint
Adam Shaiken, Snap-On and Craftsman are American tools and are not sold here in Finland, sadly. I’d like to buy Snap-Ons but the postages are huge and then our customs add 24% taxes which also applies for postages!
You should test the open end of the wrenches as see when it fails.
You going to bring any of those back for warranty?
I often use a 24mm hooked in with the ring into a 19mm open end so that I get more torque. Could you test this?
You said the first and second one were about the same, but the second one was about 120kg more tolerant for most the the push vs the first one. 260 vs 380
Growing Answers yea . he edits videos poorly
I think you should machine a guide for the wrenches so they don't slip from under the press
He said at the end of the video he has one, but decided to not use it because this is more of a real life test scenario, not a control
@@potatosordfighter666 I realized that after the fact lol
You could break threads and compare material strength.
Brass, Iron, etc.
Could also try different sized for comparison.
Is there a way to mill a small slot in the press tool to keep it from slipping out to the side? Might make for safer and more accurate testing. Great testing that shows you dont always get what you pay for
That is interesting not always the most expensive one but heavy one. Things for people to know. Thanks.
What about the best branding tool?
Should try to take tool twist out of the equation and build a press head that keeps the wrench straight until it snaps. Great test, though.
it wouldnt be hard to mill a channel into a tool head for this, im curious why they didnt....
"And the cheapest french is about 5.5 Euros..."
I've seen cheaper...
very useful information , thanks!
I would like to see the test with the other end being tested. Open end slipping out is the main complaint with wrenches. Test that.
Biltema ftw. Their slightly more expensive tools are way above expectations :)
Yes, as a good approximation 30% above the average price gets you the best deal always
Swedish steel at its finest! ;)
Does anyone have a link where i can buy these tools online?
@@MrBlindbird biltema.se No idea if they ship internationally tho. Might be possible to ask someone to buy it for you and then ship it?
@@MrBlindbird I second that query.
Cheers
You say Newton/meter I say FigBar/yard.
You should try Snap-on, MAC, Matco, Craftsman, Kobalt, Tekton, and some other American made, just to compare!
make sure to throw in the made in india harbor freight buttersteel wrenches
nugget wv Not many US brands in Finland. I may have seen Craftsman here, but not the rest.
We trust Germany, Sweden and Japanese tools. :)
@@XtreeM_FaiL I have a few German tools in my toolbox as well. But they don't stop by the shop every week! LOL! I'll go to some yard sales and see what I can gather up.
besides crushing ridiculous stuff what does the hydraulic press do for a day job??
Please test how strong are playing cards
Being an Automotive mechanic by trade I found this one of your best
Love this channel Thank you Tänk juu
Pretty good, now the open end
No Snap-On or Blue Point?
They're really hard to find in Finland
Thanks dude!
I have no idea how useful this is, given that even with a lever I've never managed to bend a block wrench.
But very entertaining!
Its just a matter of a longer lever.
We finished a few in my last company.
I would definitely get the Biltema... !!!! It's not always that the most expensive is the best... sometimes it is, but not always...
I think you should test at what pressure the tool destructs. So test in small steps to get the last pressure which the tool can survive.
If the bent (spring) isn't returning so the deformation is permanent, the tool is obviously no longer usable
When the second wrench slipped I wasn't prepared so it made me jump 😂. Also love your videos top notch stuff 👌
Try welding a guide on the plate to keep the wrench from moving side to side. Love your channel!!!
Even the cheapest was good metal. It was just a lower carbon steal, so it bent easier, but it was likely to break because of it. The most expensive wrench was more resistant to bending, but that comes with a break when it does bend. They both seem good.
I am curious to know when each one started bending out of shape instead of when they broke or snapped. The problems I’ve seen is wrenches just bending out of shape.
Crazy to realize that the whole time the wrench is moving, it's not because it's turning a bolt, but because the wrench is being bent.
What I want to know is what is that nut made of and how is it fixed to the plate?
Someone has been looking at AVE videos
Yep, AvE.
Yeah man, although I think Lauri's testing methodology is better. AvE has the best commentary, however.
Ahhh they're both awesome 👌
Oh right, I was wondering where I had seen this before
both channels follow each other =p it's mentioned by ave
yep and then realising he's a useless dick and then making their own video 1000x better
That's a really good test, the most expensive is not the best. If you want it smooth, buff it or work harder with it.
I'm not sure but the 340kg from the first wrench look a little bit strange.
It was ~260kg all the time, until the wrench startet to bend more and the pressing cylinder was turning - when it stopped turing, there were 260kg again.
Maybe something went wrong when the pressing cylinder rotated?
yeah i considered the first one to kinda beat around the 260 mark to be honest, and the 2nd one at 240 .
You should use a hardened bit in a fork shape to prevent the slippage.
Cool seeing the tensile strength of these wrenches. Too bad you aren't set up for endurance testing
This looks like how my dad's neighbour 'makes' the tools he needs to work on his tractors.
tractors are big pimpin'
they got huge ass rims
easy rolling it through the neighbourhood at 16 kilometers an hour,
and checking on your bovine bitches.
farmers are like the original original gangstas
i would like to see the differnce of a frozen and an unfrozen tool ice spay ect.
That's the very reason I always take my hydraulic press with me when I take a walk in the woods.
Oliskos liikaa pyydetty jos sais suomenkielisen tekstityksen kun ei aina saa selvää mitä tarkotatte
I think the reason the Biltema did so well was because of how the ring end is offset, not at an angle, but parallel and a bit down, as well as the better materials. You can see every other wrench bending sideways under the press, and that means they aren't being pushed against their strongest axis
@ 4:12 “It slipped out” yup that’s what she said
Snap off.......great name for a tool company
I would love to see this test with some wrenches found in america like Kobalt, Huskey, Snap On, Craftsman, Harbor freight, DeWalt, and so on.
Question, when you use a second wrench to use to cheat, to lengthen another wrench, will it break it the joint
Miksei Stahlwille:n avaimia testattu? Todella yleinen ja monien mekaanikkojen mielestä paras lista-avain. Itse myös pidän sitä parhaana. Siroin ja lujimman oloinen työkalu, jossa myös ergonomia kohdallaan.
The Biltema ”premium” is basically a rough copy of the old Bacho PU, which are the best spanners I have ever worked with. Bacho PU can still be bought for peanuts in fleamarkets around Scandinavia. Second hand PU:s beat chinese spanners any day and are probably the most cost effective way to get proper tools I can think of. I do own a set of the Biltema ripoffs though. Do not love them but use them occassionally and apreciate them for what they are.
Great videos you guys make! Thanks!
I appreciate your conversions in your videos to Americanese!
So is this like Harbor Freight vs SnapOn?
i prey for an same teste with facom models
Where can I get a set of the winning spanners, considering I am in the UK.
Press popcorn into a acrylic tube
Can you try Engine Valve to Press?
Have u ever tested how much weight steel house anchor brackets can hold ? They hold up houses but don't look strong I'm confused why they don't warp
Need to test wright,sk,proto and snap on.
the green grease made it slide off to the side...build a tool to hold the wrench at the top to keep it from twisting.