The Desperate Battle for SURVIVAL | Delta Air Lines 1080
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- This Air Crash Investigation will look at Delta Air Lines flight 1080, this Lockheed Tristar was flying from San Diego to Los Angeles, but immediately after take off the crew knew something was wrong. The aircraft was constantly pitching up and not responding to the control inputs of the pilots, this emergency seemed uncontrollable, but the Captain was able to regain some control by using the plane's three engines to control pitch, what unfolds next is one of the most amazing incidents ever recorded in aviation history. In what can only be described as a desperate battle for survival, the crew will use everything at their disposal to try and control this emergency stricken Tristar.
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This may be odd as it’s more of a comment for/about the comments. Generally when I watch videos like this, comments fit into a few categories:
-nitpicking every detail that is wrong;
-giving expert advice on a topic they’re not an expert on;
-crude/trolling
-random question that can either be specifically about the topic or has nothing at all to do with the topic.
Yet as I have scrolled through comments on this one, I thought it was so nice to see encouragement for the content creator; constructive criticism that is legitimately constructive.
Whether someone puts up an educational/documentary style video for the first time or has thousands, knowing what you did really well and where you need to improve is essential. But with keyboard courage, people tend to do everything BUT give helpful feedback.
It’s a refreshing change I truly hope I see more of!
*of which I truly hope to see more.
@@greggstrasser5791 Thanks, was hoping someone would catch that.
You left off the category of random comment that has nothing to do with the topic of the video, which is the category that I put your comment in
@@GOLDVIOLINbowofdeath - 🤦🏻♀️🙄 It's not about flight, but it IS about this flight channel... so there's context at least ffs. It's fine for folks to speak directly TO the content creator, and especially in this particular situation, where they are giving them & the channel's fans, their props.
Don't be obtuse.
This was also 45 years ago. Technology has changed just a bit since then.
Captain Jack McMahan. An excellent pilot. I’m a retired Flight attendant based in Atlanta.
I sometimes had the opportunity to fly international routes when Capt McMahan was flying.
All of us in Atlanta loved being on his trips. He made the ✈️
Neat!
very nice comments, Virginia
I'm amazed the crew just got on another plane and continued on. I would have thought they either would have wanted to rest after such stress, or they would have been grounded pending an investigation and all of the stress they had just been through. These guys are heroes, for sure.
1977...still the wild wild west of aviation. 🤣
This was the most skilled pilot I have ever heard about. Shifting the passengers forward probably saved the plane as the margin for success was tiny. Brilliant flying. Thanks for telling us this inspirational tale.
Neil Williams wasn't bad. He was flying an aerobatic aircraft one day when the lower bolt holding the wing on failed, which caused the wing to fold up. He went inverted until he was over the airfield, then went upright and landed safely!
Lucky the flight was far from full!
Pilots like this crew are the reason this profession is so highly revered.
This crew displayed professionalism of the highest degree. I can say this, having a career of 50+ years of military and part 121 flying experience. The captain really knew his stuff!!!!
WOW.........that is impressive. The passengers were lucky to have SUCH skilled professionals in the cockpit !!
I like that you didn't put any spoilers in your description. I was kept completely engrossed. Good job.
I used to work for Delta Air Lines in the UK (1978-1986) and had the enormous pleasure of meeting Captain Jack McMahan - from memory in 1979 - when he came to the UK to give a presentation at Cambride University to an illustrious audience of aviation professionals. I was given the honour of accompanying Jack and his wife throughout their short visit to the UK . Such an extremely nice man and you could literally 'have heard a pin drop' throughout his incredible story of saving the Lockheed Tristar L1011, crew and passengers. The entire audience were utterly spellbound, as indeed I was too. A personal memory that I shall eternally cherish.
I would have loved to have heard that presentation! Thank you for sharing.
Sadly, I remember the Alaskan Jet that had to fly inverted - due to a stripped Jack Screw. This Tri Star was very lucky, but comes down to regular Inspection / Maintenance Schedules. No Flight Surface Control should ever reach the point of corrosion of Bearings or lack of grease on a Jack Screw, whilst the Plane still flies............
Not only did the crew save the lives of the passengers and crew, they also didn't inconvenience the passengers further by actually arriving at their destination! Way to go!
Wow! As a fellow pilot, I bow before this crew. Well done. No panic. Logical response. This is why pilots die still TRYING. We had to learn to isolate our emotions. I found it hard until, on finals, "I will do my best and if that is not good enough, f-ck it!"
Give these pilots a medal and a bunch of cash. Titans!
They've already got the best reward...their lives and those of the passengers.
That is what I admire most in pilots, the ability to remain calm and do the job when even your own life is on the line. That is a remarkable skill that not a large part of the population has. Much respect to you all.
@@lorigarza9971 It was something I had difficulty learning, and I was close to being chopped.
Flying with the RAFVR was a privilege. At 18, I was given a batman to clean my clothes and bring me tea in the morning.......we had a Squadron car and driver to take us drinking! He was an old guy who drank more than us!!
Formation is SUCH a buzz - we had an instructor in the back to do checks and radio calls, and we just had to fly 2/3ft away from the lead, "Red formation, rolling, rolling, GO." Surging along, the plane a part of you. Best wishes.
I always think the pilots want to save their own lives first and foremost. They save theirs they save everyone else’s . Where possible of course.
@@FallenAngel53 Of course they want to save their own lives, BUT, they MUST not let emotion/panic prevail. Is a skill and a characteristic of good pilots. Panic serves no purpose and will kill you.
In Officer selection, they gave me a impossible situation and in 20 minutes had to say what I would do. Give up? NOT on MY watch......I came up with a solution, not an elegant one, but one that would save all/most lives.....They cited me, "For displaying outstanding leadership." Made me quite proud.
Now ask yourself… How would this flight have turned out with only 1 pilot on the flight deck like companies are wanting to do?
Thank you! The entire reason why you have a pilot and a first officer is so that during troubleshooting 1 person focuses on flying the plane. And the other fixes the problem.
@@motoxtim34 There's a bit more to things than that....
No one is suggesting single pilot operations during critical stages of flight, only for cruise and with the aid of technology. Just as technology has removed the flight engineer, navigator and radio operator from airliners.
CRM has been one of the greatest lessons learned in aviation. This proves that doing away with it and relying on automation is only going to lead to disaster.
@@nicksantos43 You are incorrect. Technology advancements are what have made airline as safe as they are.
Technologies such as collision avoidance systems ( TCAS), terrain awareness systems ( EPGWS).
Once the threat of controlled flight into terrain and midair collisions where mitigated by these technology
The leading cause of accident became loss of control. These accidents always existed but were overshadowed by others. This has been addressed by the industry through training. The big push at the moment is runway excursions, and this almost invariably happens when it’s raining and the runways are wet and or the approach is unstable. This is being addressed through training and better more accurate landing performance calculation apps. Calculation that only 15 years back would take forever to do looking at performance charts and tables.
Of course all this technology has to be used correctly and when a warning occurs the correct actions must be performed. It doesn’t matter much how well the action is performed so long as the correct action is taken.
Now approaching the end of a flying career I am convinced that the human pilot will eventually be consigned to history, and I expect it will be before this century is over
Interesting thing I was told at a CRM / Human Factors course a few years back, not sure of it’s validity but if the same same accident rate per passenger mile that existed in the post WW2 airline industry (the era of the large piston powered airliners such as the Lockheed Constellation) was applied to todays world airline industry there would be around 5 hull losses per week.
And for those that think Elon Musk’s proposal of using rockets to get around the globe is a good idea, if the Space Shuttle accident rate of 2 losses in 135 launches was applied to todays airline industry it would equate to 120 thousand crashes per year. We would run out of airplanes in a couple of weeks.
Outstanding airmanship, 10 on the Sully register!
Great video. Remaining calm and focused in a nightmare situation shows the height of crew professionalism. I hope the jerk who complained eventually came to realize the gravity of the situation.
I just wanted to add that. The production quality has improved so much. You are doing great and I really hope the RUclips gods allow you to keep making videos for us!
Thank you, it has been a journey so far. Hopefully the videos get a little better each time.
I can only agree, each video is better than the last
Oh my god I was on edge until you said that they safely touched down. Thank God they made it! I cannot imagine what must have gone through their heads... also, that the crew was even able to fly another airplane right away is incredible!!
Great video!!!
This was a fascinating one to make. I particularly liked the note given to the pilot on the next leg.
WoW! That was really good! Bravo! You kept me on the edge of my seat. I understood everything you were talking about (I am not a pilot, not in this life anyway!). What a test of the flight crew. I think the flight attendants should have gotten an award for keeping their cool. I didn't know how this turns out so I felt relief when the were safe. Imagine how they felt! Thanks, it was good!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for the video. I’ve never heard about this incident. It’s absolutely amazing. They got it back on the ground not only that, but they didn’t plow any tires or destroy the airplane, which would’ve been completely acceptable to me under the conditions. If you have problems with the flight controls, that’s a serious issue. I am a pilot for what it’s worth. And I think issues with your flight controls are fire or two of the things that scare me the most.
Well done to the pilots and crew of that bird. And well done to Curious Pilot for an excellent presentation.
I had received a note like that I would’ve been so tempted to get up and walk back to the cabin. Find the guy that wrote the note and calmly explain to him how close he was the death in the last thing he should be worried about is being late.
"Sorry for any inconveniences this miracle landing caused in YOUR DAY."
I would shake his hand and say thank you for saving my life and passengers and crew members.
Sounds to this layman as though this was an example of truly superb piloting.
IT WAS.
what a phenomenal professional and talented pilot, 1st officer, 2nd officer and crew for making this an "inconvenience" to passengers. That note alone is an incredible testimonial to the heroism of the Captain and his crew. This is inspirational and a reminder of how much pilots do. They are artists in the sky but if they make a wrong colour choice on their canvas, everyone dies. Cudos on your well deserved awards. You are knighted!
15 months back I was flying into Houston from London and we were diverted for a few hours in Dallas due to a severe storm. Eventually we got to Houston and I had to wait for a wheelchair so was last off. The captain apologised to me for the delay. I explained to him that I used to fly and I could see the storm clouds at over 40’000ft so I was quite grateful for his quick decision making. I only want to share this out of gratitude for that flight crew and for their apology for doing the right thing. We could have remained in the holding pattern for longer, but had we done so we’d have diverted in the end since it was a few hours before that storm cell had passed. Any passenger who complains about having to divert or return should understand that no pilot ever wishes to do that, but they put your and their safety above that of being on time. I prefer that to get thereitis.
I know this may not sound right but this is why I love having a pilot that knows how to FIRST fly a plane. This is a skill many overseas pilots do not possess. His physics brain kicked in and through outstanding airmanship saved everyone on board.
Oh and as a side note: The tri-star L 1011 has always been one of my favorite planes. It was beautiful.
That was an amazing event. He understood how to make his plane fly. Even unconventionally. The crews actions were amazing and together. The capt has the leadership to be a captain.
i liked the professionalism of the pilot double checking done by the pilot ...not being like some cocky ass dude thinking they dont make mistakes and it was just incredible
Great video about a really high performance crew. Thank you. Hard to believe a passenger actually sent that note to the Captain. What a pitiful miserable person.
I guess it adds to the professionalism of the crew that the passengers didn't know the level of danger that was present.
That's the kind of pilot and crew I like on my flights. Fantastic.
Amazing. I'm glad the pilots were given awards.
These pilots were the best ever under such circumstances and the content creator is the best one I've ever seen although paralleled with the Flight Channel with easy description of the event but unparalleled in such detailed graphical explanation, presentation and infotainment. ❤️👌 Thanks the Curious Pilot for such content. 🎉
Brilliant, thanks Muhammad
Two Words: Brilliant Airmanship!
The passenger who passed the note was so ungrateful but so American.
Thank you to the pilots for such skill and composure during a stressful event.
Americans come from and represent every country on Earth. They are also generally good people.
I flew many times on Delta and Eastern L-1011's. I might've even flown on this particular one. The TriStar is an absolutely beautiful, wonderful aircraft. I miss them.
My buddy’s Dad flew them. Always said it was the best built jet he’s ever been on including today.
@@collinjamesguitar I have absolutely ZERO doubt. A gorgeous aircraft the TriStar surely is. I would've given just about ANYTHING to have had that opportunity to fly one. Especially, as a career.
Hey! 😊 Another great video. Thanks for sharing, it was very intense! The pilots did an amazing job of getting the plane down safely. Can not believe the audacity of that guy sending the pilots that note though?! I expected him to say thank you!
Thank you. Haha the cheek of complaining to the pilot who had just pulled off a near impossible feat to save your life. But like I said, I think the passengers were kept so calm and the crew so professional that they were not aware of how much of an issue the crew were experiencing.
Ignorance is bliss.
I remember one horrific landing in Tulsa OK in the late 1970's. We were landing in a thunderstorm while there were actual tornadoes in the area. I would estimate we were about 40 feet up and had just crossed the threshold when suddenly the plane basically fell to the ground. We hit hard enough that all the overheads popped open and around half the oxygen masks panels opened dropping the masks. We taxied off the runway but were then towed to the gate to deplane where people were actually booing the pilots. It was we saw a few of the main tires were flat (burst).
I was a teen then, and today I know we probably hit a microburst, much like the accident of Delta 191 at Dallas. I am thankful to this very day that this gloomy day was not my last and so thankful of the care that goes into making aviation safe and the skill of the crews of these aircraft. I know never to boo the pilots for a firm landing because as far as you know you may have just had your life saved by a split second inconvenience of a bump. I love aviation and am not writing this to frighten anyone, quite the contrary, that we can have faith in the skill and professionalism of the guys up front and to remember they want to end their shift alive too and they will fight to the end if things go bad.
Glad the pilot and crew were commended and awarded, they really earned their pay that day.
Damn that's a fine piece of flying right there, pity about the karen who complained about being late, despite being on a plane that was the equivalent of a car with a broken steering column
"Sorry for any inconveniences this miracle landing caused in YOUR DAY."
Honestly 🙄 People can be such assholes
true airmen right there do what it takes to fly the airplane awesome
I hope that complaining passenger seen the news of what was happening. But how the captain reacted is just pure professionalism after all the crew went through obstacle after obstacle. Thank you CP for the inspirational story.
Intelligent, calculating and level minded crew! I wish all pilots were like this….
Quite....probably you're a better person than I am since you only hint at, or imply, what I in my response to this cannot help but to make abundantly clear!
@@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 I don’t know what the f*** you’re talking about…now F*** OFF!
most ATPs are actually since it is a progression that drums fundamentals into your brain. But in general, more crews should know more about how their airplanes work beyond just using the manuals. And aero engineering degree comes in real valuable at times like this. Likewise with UA 232 at Sioux City where they also learned to fly with throttles when controls didn't work. Immediately one thinks of moving all avail PAX to the front of the plane like when we dispatched near empty for trim ballast on MD-80s.
More common than not I think. One of the few, very few professions where there ass is as much on the line as yours. Once you accelerate down the runway they are as invested as you in bringing it home safely. It's not just liability, or lawyers, or rules, it's the fact that it's harder to crash only half a plane than not crash at all.
@@rodmanser7573 I don't see how engineering is necessary. Weight shift is an early pilot lesson along with how thrust can influence pitch, and a bunch of other secondary control effects. Then it's taught again for multi engine flying. It would be better if these extra control schemes were taught rather than improvised.
It’s always a good day when I find new high quality aviation channels. Thanks!
Thank you! 😁
These people had no idea that had there not been a competent pilot on board they would have been dead.
This is the crew I hope I have when I fly. They did an amazing job handling this situation. Team work and clear headed thinking by the captain.
Incredible. Congrats to the crew on such an amazing display of professionalism.
OMG, how lucky the pessengers were. This kind of performance is damn rare.
Please let me know how to pronounce those names properly!
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*The cockpit of the Tristar has a glass cockpit in the video, in real life it would have had analogue dials. That's just a consequence of the flight sim software I am using.
The pilot in control was an absolute GEM! And by the way, he maintained control despite the situation(s) being against most odds.
Now THAT'S some fancy flyin! That crew, and ESPECIALLY those pilots are HEROES!
Yes all right till millimeters 1.2.3 left
Great story! Fabulous air crew, and terrific accomplishment. My hat’s off to them! 😊
Well edited and presented young man... Top Notch! 👍
Wow. Perhaps the most unbelievable story I've ever heard. Sully had a flyable glider. United 232 almost did that, what the crew of OO-DLL managed in Baghdad. Flying a plane with the elevator jammed in the UP position without stalling is an incredible _FEAT_ and landing it in one piece... I just can't speak. Brilliant example of instant thinking and understanding the flight mechanics. Hats off to the crew.
AMAZING work by that crew to maintain control over that aircraft despite these issues.
Would love to hear the atc recording of this. Great job on this video and thanks for posting.
This is an amazing incident that’s well known to those who had the privilege of flying the L-1011. An abnormal procedure was also subsequently created that allowed crews to turn on and off selected spoiler pairs on the wings to allow more pitch control without requiring differential thrust. It was a very difficult exercise in the sim.
Your video is quite good and I did give it a thumbs up, but there are good simulator emulations of the 1011 available and it would have been a much better production had you used one for the cockpit shots, and I mean that in the spirit of constructive critique.
Saw this on my recommendations and I just HAD to watch! Great video, hoping to see more in the future 😙
I’m glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the nice comment.
@@CuriousPilot90 no, thank YOU for the amazing video!
Many plane accidents would be avoided with a crew like the one operating this plane. A school example of good teamwork and skills
I'm not sure why I haven't heard of this outstanding crew on this almost doomed flight before now. I must say the quick thinking and skill of the crew sure was the saving grace of everyone on the flight that day. Not many L 1011 crews around anylonger but if the same set up on a simulator, even back then, I dought the outcomes would have been so favorable of the test runs.
I’d fly with theses guys any day of the week. 🤗
Very glad I’ve found this channel, I’ve watched all of Mentour, Green dot, 3 greens, mini air crash videos all about 10 times each, now I have another 😂 great content, keep it up mate 👍🏽
Excellent thanks, I’m glad RUclips is showing the right people. 😁
So many airline crashes begin with a tri engine plane from the 1970s, I feel like this design was cursed, but in this instance it saved there lives.
I believe this design was discontinued after the United 232 incident where the middle engine blew up and shrapnel flew and severed the hydraulics in the tail section which made the plane nearly uncontrollable.
Excellent work!!! Many thanks to this crew!
Pilots who truly understand what makes a plane fly!!
Moving the passengers to the front was brilliant.
Free upgrade to first class!
That note to the pilot is something a internet troll would do. Did they even know They could have died ?
@BB49 But how could you not at least "strongly suspect" something is very wrong, when all the passengers we're asked to move to the front?
Sounds like an absolutely amazing pilot, level headed and methodical. Would love if he piloted a aircraft I was on.
Extremely professional and competent crew!!!
Superb video. Thanks!
What a great crew! Great pilotage! Glad they made it down safely. Great soft field landing.
Delta Skipper thought way outside the box, for he unwittingly created a new means of control of a rapidly unstable aircraft. 'Walking' yes cats &kitttens by varying the thrust on each engine , with help from his first officer regained some control. By using different power settings, Delta Skipper persuaded the rogue L -1011 to do what he wanted ,that is turn left ,right up and down. With the main flight controls ineffective the Delta Driver 'Walked' the Tristar back to the airport like a bad tempered pony.
I love the ones when I would give the crew a standing ovation the most The captain is clearly a brilliant and gifted pilot.
Awesome skills from the pilots. Great video as usual. Thanks.
Wow! Great vid.. To the passenger that complained, the pilot should have offered a free birdstrike demonstration on the tarmac. lol
I do hope that passenger eventually realized just how close to death he came that day
The crew did a great job in maintaining cool heads working together to find a solution that would get their aircraft safely back on the ground. Glad to hear they received a commendation for their efforts (except from the one hothead passenger that was more concerned about running late than that they could have easily become statistics in an aircraft crash report).
Yeah kinda wish there was a No Fly list back then so that passenger could have been put on it.
Those pilots were hero's , amazing!
What amazing airmanship and crew cooridintation!
So weird. I subscribe yet this video wasn't communicated to me until today. Great job, nonwithstanding!
Crew did amazing. Clear thinking. Very professional.
What a story. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
The captain had full nose down applied to the column before the plane even got off the ground. Talk about absolutely terrifying.
I also watched an American Airlines training video where the presenter said these pilots actually let the nose fall through several times to regain control. But none of these animations ever mention this.
Incredible.
I thank God that there are those kinds of men at the controls of those aircrafts.
These guys really knew how to fly and saved the lives of many. With so much automation these days I wonder how modern pilots would cope in this situation.
That Captain McMahan was amazing, hats off the crew too.
If I didn't already KNOW they'd landed it safely, I'd have assumed this was going to be a tail-first crash or pancake. Hats off to an amazing piece of flying!
A remarkable flight crew working in harmony to save their aircraft, passengers and colleagues. They certainly earned their paycheque that day 👍
You are certainly not wrong about the professional and extraordinary skill di-payed by the flight crew. These this Captain & crew have my deepest respect. I am only PPL pilot, but in these videos, it has become.clear (well, apparent anyway), that a lot of ATPL pilots despite constant on the job training, seem to have lost the ability or will, to actually have to fly an aeroplane manually in strange configurations - made a a bit of a study of this, by training for aerobatic certification. When I told a friend of mine he could fly one of the Club aircraft, if I invited him, he as horrified at the idea of flying a single engined prop aircraft. This crew join the ranks of pilots like the BA 747 that flew through sa volcanic cloud, and the Australian pilots and crew, who, as a team, managed to get an Airbus 380 back safely after one of its inboard engine catastrophically destroyed itself in flight.😊
A very good presentation of events and how a skilled crew works together when presented with serious malfunction. Thank the pilots for the successful outcome. Now ask these passengers if they would be in favor of the single or no pilot operations that most airlines are pushing for!
I struggle to imagine how anyone could keep their calm during something like this. Its absolutely incredible to me, what an amazing story. And that they were able to get a touch down after the gear came down has to be a bit of luck thrown in there too for them. What an amazing crew, true professionals.
Perfect crew resource management. unlike Sully, the captain even took the time to tell the cabin crew to prepare for the possible eventuality of a ditching
Sully did have passengers prepared for a crash landing.
I have flown maybe 5 times in all my life. I always said to the flight crew when I was getting off the plane thank you for a safe trip.
One of those crews that actually knows what they are doing. lovely !😊
Well done Captain! I want a pilot like that on my flights.
The good days of flying, it's not worth going through the crap at the airport to fly between LA and San Diego now.
Captain Jack McMahan is a legend. A magnificent display of airmanship, leadership and understanding how an airplane flies. He’s in the realm of Captain Al Haynes and Captain Sully. All the automation in the world didn’t help these pilots. It was experience and pilot skill that prevailed. I fear we don’t turn out pilots like this anymore.
The airplane was N707DA, msn 193C-1077. It later served, and I flew it, as American Trans Air’s N187AT. I flew it to its final resting place in Victorville.
Thank you for the additional details. Quite poetic.
@@CuriousPilot90 That airplane was my favorite of all of American Trans Air’s L-1011s. It wasn’t “bent”, the trims were at zero. I had a couple of firsts in that airplane. After I flew it to the boneyard I got a couple of souvenirs off of it. I got a fan blade from one of the engines and I got a “hubcap”. The anti-skid covers on the main gear had “Lockheed L-1011 TriStar embossed on them. We jokingly called them hubcaps.
A very special airplane with a very special history.
And Captain Jack McMahan, oh buddy, if we all could only be like him. He and his crew saved that airplane and all on board that day. Of this there is no doubt.
The best and most beautyful aircraft ever designed. And even that was not fully water-tight and had the danger of parts getting rusty and brittle.
Amaaazing airmanship!
What a fantastic piece of flying , similar to Al Haynes .
Great video!
I hope the captain was able to coordinate with the ground crew to ensure the note passing passenger’s luggage ended up in Zimbabwe.
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Every now and then…. Against the seemingly worst of odds these heroes pull a rabbit out of their hats..👍👍