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  • A Sticky Situation. Nightmare EICR...
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  • @artisanelectrics
    @artisanelectrics  3 года назад +33

    Like Cory's Style? Watch him install an Electric Vehicle Charger here: ruclips.net/video/60r15jdKWzg/видео.html

    • @timg6850
      @timg6850 3 года назад +7

      You can see Cory is an asset to your business his attention to detail and knowledge is fantastic

    • @JimWhitaker
      @JimWhitaker 3 года назад

      Watch out, he'll have your job and your RUclips audience. Excellent video.

  • @0liver0verson9
    @0liver0verson9 3 года назад +64

    Looks like Cory is a RUclips natural!

  • @SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers
    @SqwarkParrotSpittingFeathers 3 года назад +46

    This was perhaps the best vid I've seen for a very long time, perhaps ever. Thanks Cory for not cutting corners or for not editing relevant material out, for explaining everything you did clearly. I'll come again. Brilliant.

  • @ashmanelectricalservices4318
    @ashmanelectricalservices4318 3 года назад +42

    With regards to the question "Do you carry on with the EICR?" I call the client and advise them that there's very little point in continuing with the EICR as the installation is in need of a complete rewire and board upgrade. I'll invoice them for the time that I've been there and they could put the money they've saved towards the cost of the rewire.

    • @havoctrousers
      @havoctrousers 3 года назад +8

      That seems like the only reasonable response - charge them a callout and tell them there's no point doing a condition report because the installation is dangerous and not repairable.

    • @Romeworld95
      @Romeworld95 3 года назад +1

      Good point but if testing for an agent, chances are you're going to need to complete the form so they can hand this back to their client. Question is then, are you going to complete the all dead and live tests or just omit these and comment it?

    • @raychambers3646
      @raychambers3646 3 года назад +1

      It complied when installed ,so in 10 yrs a new install won't comply RIP out and start again?

    • @Poorlybobsdad
      @Poorlybobsdad 2 года назад

      That makes sense.

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 2 года назад +4

      @@raychambers3646 this situation is a lot more than just “outdated and never changed”, though.

  • @lewishorton6476
    @lewishorton6476 3 года назад +33

    Jordan’s defo sat on some hot beach somewhere now he has Cory 😂😂

  • @Monkeh616
    @Monkeh616 3 года назад +12

    It's probably been mentioned already, but the reason you're seeing so much of the green goo there is the overheating. One of the breakdown products of hot PVC is hydrogen chloride (add water and you get hydrochloric acid). The migrating plasticizer is transporting the HCl down the cable, and the HCl is oxidising the copper.
    I've seen quite a few older installations with a little hint of green around the end of the insulation, which is harmless, but when it's dripping out like that you've got a problem.

  • @connertomlinson6467
    @connertomlinson6467 3 года назад +37

    Every junction box is IP rated enough with the right amount silicone.

  • @christineburns5246
    @christineburns5246 3 года назад +15

    My dad used to do rewires in the late fifties and the first half of the sixties and those old brown Bakelite Wylex boards were the ‘modern’ tech he was putting in in those days. I remember it well as I was his little helper and passed him tools as he ripped up floorboards and put in that fancy new PVC cable and a fancy new ring main.

  • @stagggerlee
    @stagggerlee 3 года назад +15

    In US here, yes I've seen the green goo in a lot of older electronic gear, tv' s amps, etc. Also in low volt wiring, intercoms and older pa systems. Seen in some electrical devices and a breaker panel, or consumer unit.

    • @chaseohara4781
      @chaseohara4781 2 года назад +1

      Another comment mentioned the heat adding to the amount of the green goo. While it's not as common in older residential installs in North America, you often do get a little green, although usually its a tinge and not goo. Much more common in electronics where they're not ventilated and run very hot inside.
      I have the feeling that Canadian/American installs, usually being in much larger panels, and not as much in unventilated/obscure areas like under stairs, etc., has led to less of this type of issue.
      By the time plasticized cabling became common, we had (for the most part) put stricter regulations in about placement, etc.
      I wonder about comparative acceptable temperature ranges, too. On 2.5mm (ish, 12 gauge here is equivalent to 2.6mm) we'd run 20A at 120V, whereas I know you'll run 32A at 220V (I know it's a ring circuit usually in that case, so it's nominally lower per wire, but even at 16A and 220V) I suspect your wires are subjected to higher temperatures on a regular basis.
      Could be that I just haven't seen very much of it, however.

  • @Emin3m1986
    @Emin3m1986 3 года назад +8

    That socket above the sink it’s a big NO NO. Especially when not on a RCD...

  • @Gr33nMamba
    @Gr33nMamba 3 года назад +4

    The calm methodical approach which is well justified is something to be admired, he's a natural.

  • @westinthewest
    @westinthewest 3 года назад +9

    Those red and black tails usually have the coloured insulation layer as well as a sheath of the same colour instead of the usual grey.

  • @WonkoTheSaneUK
    @WonkoTheSaneUK 3 года назад +48

    I'm not a qualified electrician - what's the code for "run away screaming"? :P

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 3 года назад +5

      C1 probably - imminent danger.

    • @lonewolfgeoff
      @lonewolfgeoff 3 года назад +4

      i would say the code starts "oh fffffffffffeeeecckkk!"

    • @MatthewHawkyard
      @MatthewHawkyard 3 года назад +1

      Ft (F**k that)

    • @amarcy5369
      @amarcy5369 3 года назад +3

      Just keep following these videos , and all will become clear. I am a retired electrician and I’m still amazed at what goes on . So basically watch an observe . And never underestimate the stupidity of others. But in the end it takes the skill and knowledge to bring a seance of order . All though in my long and not always successful career . I have above all else strived to do my level best , not only for the client but also for the industry. I never ever gave up , although at times I felt dam close to doing so . My best wishes to you 🤗👍

    • @biggiejohn3360
      @biggiejohn3360 3 года назад +2

      in the US, whoever installed the solar system with that disaster in place would lose their license

  • @calvinhale2723
    @calvinhale2723 3 года назад +31

    Really knowledgeable about the 'green goo' lots of sparks don't know anything about it.

    • @09weenic
      @09weenic 3 года назад +1

      Pretty sure it’s mentioned in one of the NICEIC’s snags and solutions publication

    • @acelectricalsecurity
      @acelectricalsecurity 3 года назад

      @@09weenic it is your right

    • @acelectricalsecurity
      @acelectricalsecurity 3 года назад +1

      Depends if they are told about it when they are being trained, I was told in college about it.
      How do you know he hadn't read up on it before going on camera.

    • @calvinhale2723
      @calvinhale2723 3 года назад

      @@acelectricalsecurity we could say he reads up on everything just before jumping on camera and therefore he isn't truly knowledgeable about anything ? I'd give this guy the benefit of the doubt, I think he knows his stuff.

    • @acelectricalsecurity
      @acelectricalsecurity 3 года назад +1

      @@calvinhale2723 I didn't say he didn't know his stuff, and nobody can know everything, and that's what books are for, referring to and gaining knowledge.

  • @benmakemson61009
    @benmakemson61009 3 года назад +15

    great video from Cory. love the detail he goes into and he's a natural on camera. great asset to your team Jordan. brilliant content. thank you :)

  • @rossthompson1635
    @rossthompson1635 3 года назад +19

    Very engaging presentation style, thank you Cory.

  • @FNUKSTER1366
    @FNUKSTER1366 3 года назад +11

    The grinch oozing out of the electrical sockets

  • @Macrobish
    @Macrobish 3 года назад +1

    As an old retired dog (engineer/handyman) I follow all you electricians with great interest and I have to tell you Cory when it comes to presentation - you are the best!

  • @labelectrical
    @labelectrical 3 года назад +12

    Sorry Jordan but I prefer this style of video. Cory presents more in the style I prefer and it was good instructional/learning content for fairly new people like me. Well done Cory 👍

  • @MindsetSolutions
    @MindsetSolutions 3 года назад +5

    Fair play Cory, great effort. absolute natural on camera, and great camera skills. Your knowlege is outstanding, and you made the video so easy to watch. well done you! :) Have a great Christmas!

  • @markgilder9990
    @markgilder9990 3 года назад +11

    Funny how things workout, I was doing an EICR yesterday with similar issues. Rewire.

  • @calvinhale2723
    @calvinhale2723 3 года назад +14

    Walk in, fuse board cover off - full rewire needed - fuse board cover back on - onto next job :)

    • @phoenixdundee
      @phoenixdundee 3 года назад +7

      Probably a rental and they just want it tested to get the next person in ASAP.

    • @paulprescott7913
      @paulprescott7913 3 года назад +1

      I would have thought that green goo aside , having rewirable fuses alone would condemn the installation.

    • @dg2908
      @dg2908 3 года назад +2

      BS3036 fuses are old hat, though if an RCD has been added, the fuse wire is correct, there are no signs of thermal damage, the board is adequately IP rated and suitably fire resistant for its location, the Zs readings are appropriately reduced then they are technically acceptable

    • @phoenixdundee
      @phoenixdundee 3 года назад +1

      @@paulprescott7913 The UK is so bad that it is a case of 'if you can't see it then it complies' I know of places that haven't been looked at in 40 years, but people still living there. I changed a board that had a nail used as a fuse wire in a 15A fuse ... I think the suppliers fuse would have gone before the nail melted!

    • @paulprescott7913
      @paulprescott7913 3 года назад +1

      @@dg2908 yes thats all we used to sell when i first started in the wholesale industry .

  • @effervescence5664
    @effervescence5664 3 года назад +12

    So yes leave the installation isolated, but if you're going to do that Cory, isolate the water main (and possibly drain down) as if you isolate the power you isolate the frost protection on the boiler and may invalidate any insurance on the place if the water main freezes and bursts, which you could be held liable as the engineer that last visited. Just a heads up as I know people this has happened to before.

  • @janehoward509
    @janehoward509 3 года назад +5

    Really excellent video. I really appreciate Cory’s gentle teaching style. I’d very much enjoy more technical videos like this if he would be able to make them for you?

  • @countesscable
    @countesscable Год назад

    My favourite vid so far. No annoying music, just straightforward commentary, and great explanations. It was like being there. Great stuff! 👍🏻

  • @tobysherring1369
    @tobysherring1369 3 года назад +10

    You can't 'fail' a flammable fuseboard for being under stairs. If it's in the sole means of escape it's a C3, not a 'fail'. Fuses are still perfectly acceptable within regs - except for circuits supplying outdoors or special zones that also need RCD protection. I agree it all needs replacing but that's because of the goo and what it indicates not *just* because it's old or messy. I don't think you can 'fail' on missing CPC to Class 2 either, but obviously you can for Class 1.

    • @jaypowell9786
      @jaypowell9786 3 года назад +2

      You must be a landlord, love to keep money in your pocket

    • @tobysherring1369
      @tobysherring1369 3 года назад +2

      @@jaypowell9786 I did say it all needs replacing! I am a landlord and recently upgraded to metal RCBO board even though it wasn't strictly needed - just the easiest way to get RCD protection for all circuits in the most compact enclosure. My point was that flammable CUs in themselves are no more than a C3 even in a means of escape. And that rewireable fuses are still within latest regs. And that CPCs aren't needed to Class 1 lights.

  • @JJ-kr6ky
    @JJ-kr6ky 3 года назад +5

    The green goo is actually a combination of copper oxide and plasticiser which is a sign of over heating. It can also become conductive so should not be touched on a live installation. Eventually it will cause the insulation to become brittle so a rewire should be considered. Your spot on Cory

  • @roseironworks1393
    @roseironworks1393 3 года назад +1

    I absolutely love this, im a sparky too, and when ever i come across this sort of nightmare, i just relish the moment of pulling the cutout and killing the killer install !!

  • @patricklegault6383
    @patricklegault6383 3 года назад +2

    as far as i know (not an electrician) i have not seen it. been renovating my building from 1925 with knob n tubes and across all the bad electrical jobs that happend here. have not seen anything remotely like what you have there.
    Also. we don't really have ring circuits in the US/Canada. this is foreign technology :)
    we do have a lot more breakers in a main panels which goes to different receptable/light/devices.
    my house has about 50 circuits for 2 floor. with gfci/afci protection on most of them at the branch circuit not at the main breaker
    anyway, always fun watching other people working with different technology

  • @robertburrows6612
    @robertburrows6612 3 года назад +9

    I've rewired many of those houses for housing associations. It not 70' they we built in the 60's . typical 60's layout.That house needs a full rewirer

    • @09weenic
      @09weenic 3 года назад

      Totally agree - the property also requires to be decorated/ finished to 21st century tastes

    • @NOWThatsRichy
      @NOWThatsRichy 3 года назад

      That decor would be described as retro or vintage now!

  • @chaseohara4781
    @chaseohara4781 2 года назад +2

    The lamp sockets are a neat idea, although they wouldn't pass in Canada/America as they are because horizontal sockets generally are either not allowed or have to be protected, as they could easily get liquid or other materials in them. They're not unheard of, especially in like commercial situations where you need access to electrical in the floor of large rooms, but even then they're usually recessed boxes with the receptacles vertical or at an angle.

  • @Z71OBS
    @Z71OBS 2 года назад +1

    As an electrician in America (O’ahu, Hawai’i) I’ve personally never seen a chemical reaction between PVC insulated cable & copper here. Here we call it NM for non-metallic sheathed cable or “Romex”. Thats our equivalent to your T&E. Most romex in america from 1960 to present is PVC insulated, older cables from the 30s to the 60s was Rubber insulated but the jacket that holds the live and neutral conductors together was made of woven cloth. However the standard from the late 1800’s to the 1940’s was called Knob & Tube (K&T) where individual rubber insulated cloth wrapped conductors were suspended between beams by ceramic knobs. I’ve seen copper conductors oxidize in homes by the sea when left exposed to the elements but never a chemical reaction as showed in your video! In America, grounding conductors for regular household circuits became standard around the late 60’s. However I’ve personally seen cables from the 40’s and 50’s with a ground conductor, although it is very uncommon to find vintage grounded cables. Also, many homes in Hawai’i are still being powered by 60+ year old cables, and its not uncommon to find homes with wiring well over 100 years old! Is it up to todays safety standards? Absolutely not. But in the rare occurrence that the original wiring has not been modified and/or expanded creating a higher load on the old original circuits, the wiring very well could last another 100 years without skipping a beat. Unfortunately most older homes here have the presence of old cables that have been spurred off to many new appliances and devices that the old electrical systems were never designed to handle, creating a very high load on the old wires that results in the old rubber and cloth insulation becoming brittle. I’m very lucky to work with a journeyman electrician who was previously an electrician in Australia. From my understanding, electrics in Australia follow a similar method to the UK and i’ve been able to learn alot from him about different wiring methods in different countries. He’s told me he greatly prefers the American style electrical panels where the breakers clip onto a central BusBar vs the MCB methods used abroad. Our panels in America are usually twice the size if not more of the average consumer unit found in other countries abroad, leaving more room for wire terminations & heat dissipation. Thats just my 2 cents!!

  • @amarcy5369
    @amarcy5369 3 года назад +4

    The shear fact that someone has added to this installation is mind boggling . Sometimes you just can’t get where these installers are coming from. Best wishes to both . 😃👍

  • @ForTheBirbs
    @ForTheBirbs 3 года назад +2

    What an awesome video Cory! Well done. I'm enjoying this from Sydney, Australia. Keep up the great work!

  • @stevecraft00
    @stevecraft00 3 года назад +7

    We wire boilers through a fan isolator to break all live poles (including the stat return) where the fused spur is remote from the boiler. It enables the gas fitters to service the boiler and isolate the power locally. Think its a requirement in the gas regs to have local isolation.

    • @Marcel_Germann
      @Marcel_Germann 3 года назад +1

      Here in Germany it is, all gas- or oil fired boilers must have a double pole switch with a neon indicator in it, so a full isolation of L and N is possible. Must be labeled as "Heating" or "Heating emergency switch".

    • @stevecraft00
      @stevecraft00 3 года назад +1

      @@Marcel_Germann yes we have to have a double pole isolator but due to the way our homes are wired in the UK this is quite often in a different room to the boiler and therefore next to the boiler we should fit local isolation for maintenance. But this generally needs to be 3 pole so that the boiler trigger wire is also disconnected.

    • @Marcel_Germann
      @Marcel_Germann 3 года назад

      @@stevecraft00 We don't have such boiler triggers, so double pole is sufficient.

    • @stevecraft00
      @stevecraft00 3 года назад

      @@Marcel_Germann how does the boiler fire? There must be a control wire?

    • @Marcel_Germann
      @Marcel_Germann 3 года назад

      @@stevecraft00 Control circuits are integrated into the boiler, so if you switch off the power to the boiler you also switch the control off. You can control everything from the boiler itself, or with an external control element which is working with a bus system.
      This guy here is from 2013:
      abload.de/img/img_5937l3j71.jpg
      abload.de/img/img_5938g3j0d.jpg
      abload.de/img/img_59392ykin.jpg
      There's a second control unit in the house of my parents, they can control their heating circuit from there. One big boiler for two houses heating and in addition making hot water for my house.
      abload.de/img/img_59403xko1.jpg
      abload.de/img/img_5935etjsg.jpg

  • @jontownsend8090
    @jontownsend8090 3 года назад +4

    That is a severe case of couprus oxide.
    Another time warp in every way possible.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @warrenbennett6681
    @warrenbennett6681 3 года назад

    Great video👏🏻 well done Cory. Very informative!

  • @JGE_Installations
    @JGE_Installations 3 года назад +2

    Good video, I tape all 3 leads together at 2 or 3 places along the length and just try leave enough free length at the probe end, saves them getting really tangled. Hope that makes sense

  • @phillipgwynne6580
    @phillipgwynne6580 3 года назад +3

    That’s one of the most enthusiastic EICR’s I’ve ever seen on RUclips. I think you and Jordan now have the best tester out of all the big RUclips stars. Dave Savery has an older Mettrel, and Chris from CJR has a good Kewtwch one. But think Artisan now on top. Although never seen DSS Dan’s tester?

  • @lonewolfgeoff
    @lonewolfgeoff 3 года назад +7

    nicely done corey! tbh at first i thought you were jordan!!! 😂😂😂 damn got me there!
    my god! what a nightmare! thats a hell of a rewire job!
    i think blow the place up and start from scratch! 😂😂😂

  • @ChrisBD
    @ChrisBD 3 года назад +7

    I'm an electrician in Denmark and I've never seen that green goo in the fuseboard. Granted I've only been in the trade a few years

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 3 года назад +2

      I think the UK was particularly unlucky with that, I've never seen amounts like this anywhere else!
      I do have a 1950s or 1960s extension lead somewhere that has some green goo leaching out of the holes of the socket, so cable manufacturers in central Europe clearly did make the same mistake.

    • @djb774
      @djb774 3 года назад

      We can send you some?

  • @lescarpenter162
    @lescarpenter162 3 года назад +1

    The round Chrome switch that did not work is Infra-Red activated. It will turn on lights full or at various light levels to Off.

  • @harrygarbett3089
    @harrygarbett3089 3 года назад +1

    The green goo. Is like a gauss they used to cover the conductors in brfire wrapping the insulation in. I think it’s the same as silica powder stopping the insulation from drying out and being affected naturally and going ridged over time and acts as a barrier to stop moisture in the cable in the manufacturing process. All cables that time period like that. Seen it drip out of sockets to. 🙃.

  • @tammmacdonald7723
    @tammmacdonald7723 3 года назад

    Good video and very informative. FYI - The green ‘stuff’ is Verdigris, or copper carbonate your tight to be careful it is toxic. Here on the coast it tends to copper chloride because of the salt.

  • @johnfenlon458
    @johnfenlon458 3 года назад +2

    Wow, a very old electrical panel double. Some outlet problems. Great Job Jordan and Cory! Also Very interesting your new multimeter Great show how to use. I love to watch your new multimeter. Thumb up!!! Cheer!

  • @apluselectricalsolutions684
    @apluselectricalsolutions684 3 года назад

    Good video Cory, and good tip for the ring testing too 👍

  • @thomasleathley9681
    @thomasleathley9681 3 года назад

    Really good video. I had that green goo all over my house in all the switches n sockets. Rewired it all but didn't realise it was as bad for you as you have just said.

  • @tww5719
    @tww5719 3 года назад +10

    Straight away put it down as a rewire especially seeing it's empty 👍

  • @thomasbyles3075
    @thomasbyles3075 3 года назад +1

    ‘Shoot me down if I’m wrong’ 😂 very informative vid, cheers

  • @philc8544
    @philc8544 3 года назад

    Great work. Cert photos are a nice touch. Keep it up

  • @normanboyes4983
    @normanboyes4983 3 года назад +2

    I think that is a ‘Barn Door’ situation where any testing is unnecessary as the consumer unit fails on visual examination and a full rewire is required to remedy. Any testing of the existing installation would only serve, curiosity, video production or increasing cost for the customer. I am not an electrician.😉

  • @mark123655
    @mark123655 3 года назад

    Whats the requirements for testing/upgrading when making major alterations - such as the solar, or shed connections?

  • @ashmanelectricalservices4318
    @ashmanelectricalservices4318 3 года назад +2

    Most cooker hoods are double insulated so you'll never get an R2 reading off it.

  • @jasonrichards6504
    @jasonrichards6504 2 года назад

    Great vid, i do mainly commercial so it is nice to watch these to keep up to date stay in touch 👍🏻

  • @ANDREWB7360
    @ANDREWB7360 3 года назад +8

    realy interesting video quite a lot o cover wel done

  • @emolatur
    @emolatur 3 года назад +1

    I am in the US -- actually from Maine, where we have lots and lots of very very old houses. I haven't seen this "green goo" built up in the bottom of any boxes, but there was an era of cable that always seems to feel "gooey." I don't know if it's the same thing, but I'll be paying closer attention next time I encounter it.
    I have a project apartment building over in the next major city that I believe has some of that cable. We're rewiring the whole place one apartment at a time as tenants move out, so I should be able to grab some.

    • @rowanNClangley
      @rowanNClangley 3 года назад

      It could have been rubber insulation which was starting to degrade.

  • @gregorythomas333
    @gregorythomas333 3 года назад +1

    In the US if you upgrade a system (as opposed to repair) you must bring the entire system up to code...so the PV addition should have caused the installer to fix everything to code.
    I saw one home built in the 30's that had solid copper wire covered with cloth insulation...it was so old that when I opened the fuse box the cloth had actually rotted off the wires!
    The only thing keeping the wires from shorting was the fact that they were solid and not able to move...I showed it to a buddy who teaches electrical and he brought his whole class.

  • @busman2000
    @busman2000 3 года назад +3

    That green goo as you put it, is quite common here in New Zealand where there are old school 1960-70's rigid plastic light and power switches that were made by PDL . Thankfully the cables manufacturers caught on to it and it is now not such a common thing with today's installations.

  • @lukekinchlea7996
    @lukekinchlea7996 3 года назад

    Another quality video! Did he say that the “laptop” he was using was a iPad?

  • @chrisday8072
    @chrisday8072 3 года назад +2

    I think this is a quality video and explained in a clear way

  • @rouman7
    @rouman7 3 года назад +3

    Just a visual inspection needed on that , you can see it needs to be rewired ... every one twisted the earths together in the 70 s

  • @dannyboisparky
    @dannyboisparky 3 года назад

    Seen the green goo many times over the years. Some so bad it’s dripping from lights, sockets and switches like something out of ghostbusters.
    Rewired loads of them and found the IR normally alright and never brittle from it.
    I would’ve just coded on the visuals and spend rest of time listing for a rewire quote

  • @mudmucks
    @mudmucks 3 года назад +3

    Go Cory!
    Loving those brick arches😁😝

    • @ThomasBOURKE
      @ThomasBOURKE 3 года назад

      You could almost imagine Peter Wyngarde visiting here :/

  • @APSuk2
    @APSuk2 3 года назад +3

    Try braiding the leads on the Metrel, really helps to stop them tangling up.

  • @geoffball5803
    @geoffball5803 3 года назад

    Great vid, informative, however there is nothing wrong with the IP of the bathroom light 0:47 as it's outside zones 👍

  • @nitrofar34
    @nitrofar34 3 года назад

    I always tend to plug my test plug in and out a few times when doing my R1+R2 and zs's at sockets.

  • @davidfaraday3085
    @davidfaraday3085 3 года назад +3

    As a one-time boss of mine used to say: "if all else fails, read the instructions".

  • @0liver0verson9
    @0liver0verson9 3 года назад +3

    Aha, so that's what the "green goo" is? I have it coming out of one socket, and couldn't work out what the hell it was.

  • @Ted_E_Bear
    @Ted_E_Bear 3 года назад +5

    Love your work ! Jordan is so brilliant !!

  • @skuula
    @skuula 3 года назад +5

    Here on the continent there are never earth wires in ceiling lamp points, and it's not like people are dying in swathes because of that. But I understand that safety has been prioritised to and through the ceiling in the UK :)

    • @corrigenda70
      @corrigenda70 3 года назад +6

      Is it simply important to have an earth wire in ceiling lamp points where the fittings are metal? Many in the UK are plastic.

    • @_akuma06
      @_akuma06 3 года назад +6

      In France it is mandated to have earth wires everywhere (plugs, lighting circuit) even if the actual lamp doesn't need to be earthed. If I remember correctly it's the same in Germany

    • @skuula
      @skuula 3 года назад

      @@_akuma06Okay maybe I am wrong or outdated then... not from the trade.

    • @Marcel_Germann
      @Marcel_Germann 3 года назад +1

      @@_akuma06 Correct, now these days the PE must be carried to everywhere, even if it's not necessary. If not necessary they will be fitted with a connector and put back in the box were they don't disturb anyone or anything. Back in the old days, probably when the house shown her was installed, it was the same thing in Germany. No PE at the light fitting, because most luminaires were class 2 back then. But it was common practice here to have a PEN even in final circuits, and that was permitted until 1973 to do so. And that stuff still works today, and if an outlet is defective and must be replaced, the owner don't want a rewire, you'll have to redo it. For repairs and maintenance it's permitted to reinstall these connections, but it's not permitted to install new PENs in final circuits. Now the PEN must be at least 10mm² in copper or 16mm² in aluminium.

    • @roydowling2542
      @roydowling2542 3 года назад +1

      Over in Ireland we have an earth at every point.

  • @sbmorris2k6
    @sbmorris2k6 3 года назад

    With the metrel testers I believe some of the older models you piggy back the blue lead with the green lead as you need all 3 to power the tester so you can still do L-N L-E ect, don't know if it's the same with the new swanky tester though 😂

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 3 года назад +1

    FYI 30:38 the meter makes the exact same sound as the "tink" notification alert sound in Mac OS X in case anybody else out there has been going which computer in my room is making that alert for the last 30 minutes .....

  • @AnthonyChopra
    @AnthonyChopra 3 года назад

    i think in the 1905 house we got there also is a switch that terns on a light prob for a bed. string is not there tho. i hope to get it working one day

  • @tresslerj1985
    @tresslerj1985 3 года назад +6

    Why a visual inspection is more value than eicr.

  • @imark7777777
    @imark7777777 3 года назад +1

    And if somebody likes to take photos, I recommend taking a picture of the house when you get there as a demarcation between the previous electrical stuff and the current electrical stuff. because after a while they start to look identical. It's not like I know this from going around taking pictures of electrical stuff for absolutely no reason.

  • @hogshouse
    @hogshouse 3 года назад

    Is that downlights in the bottom of the kitchen units at 20:50 ? Hilarious if it was..
    Great video, as always.

  • @paultipton743
    @paultipton743 3 года назад +3

    I've only seen that green goo ( I forget its proper name)just a few times in the odd light switch, never to that extent in that consumer unit.
    I did have a book from the Niceic that stated Although Unsightly and a result of chemical reaction "Green goo" wasn't toxic.
    I'm not entirely convinced of that

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 3 года назад +1

      It's probably some kind of copper compound and that's unlikely to be particularly healthy in serious amounts (i.e. anything beyond traces).

    • @paultipton743
      @paultipton743 3 года назад

      @@Ragnar8504 I can't remember exactly but its something to do with the pvc insulation being of different material from what it is now back in the 1960s-70s where the wires were stranded.
      It was either a reaction with the copper wires and pvc or the pvc outer sheath and the plaster on the walls degrading over the years

    • @Monkeh616
      @Monkeh616 3 года назад +2

      @@paultipton743 The liquid is the plasticizer (I'm not sure exactly what, dioctyl phthalate as suggested by Cory perhaps, that's something a specialised chemist would know about), the green colouring will be something along the lines of copper hydroxychloride caused by hydrogen chloride released from the PVC (thermal effects being a big driver of this).
      Simple skin contact is unlikely to be harmful, ingestion not recommended. Seeing as it stains and is just generally nasty, why touch it if you don't need to..

  • @benrage5373
    @benrage5373 2 года назад +2

    Love Cory " can't do r1 r2 cause there is no r2 " 🤣

  • @WooShell
    @WooShell 3 года назад

    That's such an awesome and quirky house.. kinda like an involuntary museum, with interior styles of the last 70 years all mixed together, including the electrical installation. If that was mine, I'd probably tear all out and wire up new..

    • @NOWThatsRichy
      @NOWThatsRichy 3 года назад

      The decor there would be called retro or vintage nowadays! I've seen people do up modern houses to look like that! Vintage stuff is big business now!

  • @RichardArblaster
    @RichardArblaster 3 года назад +2

    Why on earth did the previous spark continue with the solar installation? Got to have known the condition of the wiring at the time. 😮😮😮

    • @SBBUK
      @SBBUK 10 месяцев назад

      It'll be one of those cowboy door-to-door solar installation companies "befriending" the (probably) older person who would've owned this property. Maybe they are even experiencing dementia. The installer knows full well the homeowner won't get any returns in their lifetime, they just want their money. Seen quite a few cases of this - not sure how you can live with yourself working in such a way but we all have different moral compasses...

  • @hawk_ness
    @hawk_ness 3 года назад +3

    Green Goo? Maybe call ghostbusters rather and an electrician! 😅😂

  • @joshuabest100
    @joshuabest100 3 года назад +10

    Seems different to see someone else doing your work Jordan haha I don't mind it

  • @Graza25
    @Graza25 3 года назад

    Green/Blue "gunge" as you put it is copper oxidation (Just like rust on
    iron). If and when its held within a tank like the PVC, it ends up like
    the way an old car chassis does encased within the body, its like
    wood-worm, it keeps eating the same section over and over again until it
    just becomes nothing.
    The oxygen in the air itself wont cause it so much. Its the oxygen in moisture/water (h2o) that will eat away at it over time.

  • @woodwardbrandon
    @woodwardbrandon 3 года назад +4

    I work in the USA, I've come across green goo in a few times in factories. Often water, oil, or solvents getting into motor terminations or junction boxes causing the wire to break down, usually really bad in fine stranded wires. I assumed it was some sort of corrosive reaction.

    • @Monkeh616
      @Monkeh616 3 года назад +1

      It is. The green is probably copper hydroxychloride (or something along those lines). PVC breakdown releases hydrogen chloride.

    • @hvachacker586
      @hvachacker586 3 года назад

      Besides in high corrosive environment i have next to ever seen that green goop. Most of what i seen was in sea coast south Florida where copper turns green and its usualy a mess with green slime. I did a rewire on a mid west 1950’s home the insulation was like glass brittle no green goo it was rubber insulation no ground except kitchen and bath nothing was earthed besides the boxes. It also show signs of too large amp Eidson fuses used most likely before my time and was replaced GE panel that had melted several conections. But now its all THHN MC now with square d QO CAFI and AFCI breakers.

  • @Cablesmith
    @Cablesmith 3 года назад +17

    that’s definitely the worst case of plasticiser migration I’ve ever seen..
    Infertility you say Corey ? Can you bottle it up for me please ? 😂👶🏼

    • @mathman0101
      @mathman0101 3 года назад +4

      Mate trust me the kids will bring you blessings. I have 5. Ranging from 18-5 years old

    • @Cablesmith
      @Cablesmith 3 года назад +3

      @@mathman0101 I have 2, this already seems like plenty 😂

  • @bradstearns5384
    @bradstearns5384 10 месяцев назад

    Ive never seen green goo on Canadian mains wiring. Ive seen it on old line cords on appliances and electronics.

  • @joemoore9991
    @joemoore9991 3 года назад

    I always thought that green gunge was due to moisture corroding the copper. Learn something new every day

  • @Electric-First
    @Electric-First 3 года назад +2

    If the light outside the zone , than no matter If it is IP rated or not check a reg . Suitable for environment no , then I would not give a code at all . Recommendation in general comments that is all . Good video 👍👍👍👍

  • @playnationtoday
    @playnationtoday 3 года назад +7

    I’d be curious to hear about Cory’s electrical background...

    • @Romeworld95
      @Romeworld95 3 года назад

      Sounds like he knows what he's on about

  • @SurreyAlan
    @SurreyAlan 3 года назад

    Just how my property looked before rewiring though no green grunge. I suspect this is how much of our housing stock looks

  • @kbultray
    @kbultray 3 года назад +1

    Nice one Cory, well presented.

  • @approachableactive
    @approachableactive 3 года назад

    Thats brutal! Now you get to tell the customer its dangerous. And you'll no doubt get
    "well its been fine for 40 years.."
    or
    "are you sure it won't be okay for a while if we promise to sort it later"
    or my personal favourite
    "oh its modern health and safety gone mad!"

  • @asdreww
    @asdreww 3 года назад +2

    That's nothing; I have a few relatives whose house electrics is untouched since the 1950's; Untouched, brown sockets on the skirting & all still working perfectly!

    • @NOWThatsRichy
      @NOWThatsRichy 3 года назад

      I've still got one of those 6 way Wylex fuseboards in use in my house, rewired in the 80's, along with the MK Logic accessories of the time, all still working perfectly & not a bit of green goo anywhere!

  • @cjmillsnun
    @cjmillsnun 3 года назад +1

    That green goo is nasty stuff. We had it in the wiring of our house. Had because there is really only one permanent solution. Rewire. Eventually the insulation goes brittle.

  • @philipsmith0752
    @philipsmith0752 3 года назад +1

    not only that sticky green grunge coming off the wirers that socket in the kitchen above the sink can be a issue with water splash ? need a re wire !!

  • @dc-sd3gd
    @dc-sd3gd 3 года назад +10

    If the install is pre 1966 there was no requirement for earthing of lightung circuits

    • @whatdashiznit3249
      @whatdashiznit3249 3 года назад +2

      So? What’s your point?

    • @dc-sd3gd
      @dc-sd3gd 3 года назад

      @@whatdashiznit3249 because corey mentioned the lighting circuits having bo cpc throughout.

    • @timg6850
      @timg6850 3 года назад

      Common sense needs to be used here. When there is no earth on a Class 1 appliance you have a serious shock hazard . Without out an Earth wire/CPC the fuse or breaker for the circuit is unlikely to cut off the power if there is a fault.

    • @kbultray
      @kbultray 3 года назад

      There must be thousands of dwellings in this situation. However, if all insulated fittings are in use throughout and no cpc in the lighting circuits, does this constitute automatic failure ?

    • @timg6850
      @timg6850 3 года назад +1

      ​@@kbultray I believe as long as you use Class 2 fittings (Double insulated) your fine in this situation as there is no way you can come in contact with a live part. If your making changes to the lighting circuit or installing a Class 1 fitting that is when you need to have a cpc. professional-electrician.com/technical/lighting-circuits-without-cpc/

  • @awhitaker2889
    @awhitaker2889 2 года назад

    Does the green goo..act as a conductor due to copper residue??

  • @andrewpowell6457
    @andrewpowell6457 3 года назад +3

    Nice job Cory

  • @leonblittle226
    @leonblittle226 3 года назад +1

    Yes I think it's fair to admit that house needs a full overhaul, probably more solid than any modern construction which all seems to be complete guff.

  • @Johan-bc9nl
    @Johan-bc9nl 3 года назад

    add auxilliary box top of fuse panel ;; fixing ;;; avoid fully loaded wire ;; fuse panel nice use