I know, and it’s wonderful. There are so many people who have come out or been helped by the fact that they were a fab, gay couple, that could inspire them to not be ashamed of who/what they were.
Well, remember what John said about the two weeks trapped in a time loop and actually during five years? Maybe something like this could happen. Maybe Ashildr could tell Clara about Jack, they would go to Earth, learn what happened to Ianto and then find another moment to catch him and Jack then send them to a quieter place so they could live their life before going back at the very moment they left.
Later on the Face of Boe protects his aide by enveloping her in his smoke during another toxic air crisis. He never forgot Ianto and did everything he could to make sure he didn't let another loved one die like that.
It’s not that it has gay characters but now it’s all so in your face. Ncuti Gatwa’s doctor acts very camp while all other gay or otherwise characters act normal showing that being gay can be the status quo and normalising it.
@@charlierenwick3682 there’s nothing wrong with being camp, camp gay men deserve as much respect as any other queer identity/expression, go with your internalized/misogynistic homofobia elsewhere, also I think Jack was very camp
@charlierenwick3682 Jack acted extremely camp too though, and Cassandra, and the master etc, etc. And it's not like this show has ever really been in favour of handling character's sexualities with tact and eloquence ( 'I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time and this is my wife!' 'We're the thin/fat/gay Anglican marines!' 'Men aren't where I keep my eye, actually', and so on) what I'm getting at is, I think a high camp tolerance is sort of a requirement with this franchise. If some of it isn't to your taste, that's fine (me and eleven's run never got on) but blaming the new queer rep feels wrong because the show's been at it for so long.
It's because any gay content he got when he was growing up was all misery and tragedy so he chooses to perpetuate the same cycle with his shows rather than give younger queers something more positive, like they need. He also hated that a 'side character' (Ianto) got more attention than the 'star' he wrote in Gwen.
@@itsonlysound oh girl please id rather watch something tragic and entertaining than something bland and wholesome. U have heartstoppers and love Simon isn't that enough?
@@nytesla_punk3327Just because he played your precious coffee boy, it doesn't mean Gareth David Lloyd does or should have any authority over how Gwen is written. How she is written in the expanded media is completely derivative of how she is written in the show. But I don't expect you Janto fangirls to know the difference between good accurate writing and terrible writing.
Their relationship development is practically non-existent, especially in the beginning, but since all the characters in this show are just disaster bi's, it actually works for them.
I've always been a fan of Doctor Who ever since I was at a very young age, which was around the time Series 1 with RTD began, watched all of the Sarah Jane Adventures and finally gave Torchwood a shot, and I really adore the characters, the stories are emotional and captivating but some more than others, and how can nobody adore this couple?
Oh god I just watched the ep with the last scene in it and have been able to watch this video now... it's so bittersweet I might actually cry, I'm gonna go console myself with some fluff fics of them living happy lives together and pretend the children of earth series just never happened :(((
Bury your gay requires the gay dying to be a token gay. And the idea that the gay characters are the ones who never get a "happy ending" as opposed to the others since they're just there to give free pathos. Which is not the case in torchwood. 1. It's a drama series 2. Jack was created as an anti "bury your gays" since he can't stay dead 3. at this point almost everyone died janto being good at pathos is mostly because they' ré one of the best developed part of the show 4. There's no token gay in this show.
"I love you" "Dont :(" X_X "IANTO STAY WIT ME PLS" "Dont forget me" "Never could" "Thousand years of time. You wont remember me." * "Yes i will, i promise. I will." *i love you too
I didn't even watch the last episode of the third season or any of the fourth. I haven't watched anything past the second season since the original airing of Ianto being killed off. What ticked me off was after shooting was done, when the cast was at comic com shows and the fans told them they wanted more Jack/Ianto, the fans were told they were going to be very happy with season 3. Since there was only one more season after that with greatly depleted ratings, I don't think the fans were happy.
still waiting on torchwood s5 when ianto is brought back to life and him and jack live a long happy life and nothing bad ever happens again 😁 (im delusional)
ianto dying was a lie, jack breathed in the air and started hallucinating. after the series, jack and ianto reunited and lived a happy life together. [ or, atleast ianto did :( ]
imo ianto had so much potential. since the very beginning we see him as a caring and loyal romantic partner who will do anything to protect the ones he loves, plus he is very good at hiding his feelings / emotions and intentions. also we shown how he and jack met there was some kind of “flirty chemistry” (it was only a way for ianto to get into torchwood, we sll know it) but slowly jack comes to appreciate ianto’ s presence and actd. their relationship is not forced, rather they hadn’ t had enough time to develop (?) an emotional connection. i do not mean to offend you, it is meant to be an exchange of opinions.
Ianto dying was just a weird fever dream, he never died and Jack and him lived happily ever after
Please
The worst part is he couldn’t say he loved him
I feel like Jack Harkness and I have a very different idea of what CPR is
uytchfgjhjk i was just thinking this!
Man was going in tongue and all
while they were fighting ianto’s girlfriend 🙏
I wouldn't mind this being my last moment on earth 😅
@@rororotate sis I hope you're just continuing the joke and aren't being serious 😭
5:08
"What will you do when I'm gone?"
"Ianto"
To see their whole relationship mature from flirty banter to a happy and official couple just makes that last scene even harder to watch! 💔
I wish they had more screen time of them just them. Like a spinoff of just them
i would happily pay my life savings just to see one episode of that
torchwood serenity
Yesss
I can recommend the audio plays! It is not exactly the same, but I liked them a lot. You might too 🤗
a spinoff of a spinoff hahah
In Cardiff, where the wharf ‘entrance’ to torchwood is, there are still tributes to Jack and Ianto.
Ianto's Shrine is an officially protected tourist landmark, fun fact.
I know, and it’s wonderful. There are so many people who have come out or been helped by the fact that they were a fab, gay couple, that could inspire them to not be ashamed of who/what they were.
I will pay anyone who makes fanfic of them living a wholesome life together 100000000 dollars.
SAME
I mean- ao3 exists-
Ao3>torchwood(fandom)>relationship:Jack harkness/Ianto Jones>additional tags:fix-it fic
I have a rewrite happy ending version of Children of Earth... but it's old. lol
Well, remember what John said about the two weeks trapped in a time loop and actually during five years? Maybe something like this could happen. Maybe Ashildr could tell Clara about Jack, they would go to Earth, learn what happened to Ianto and then find another moment to catch him and Jack then send them to a quieter place so they could live their life before going back at the very moment they left.
Later on the Face of Boe protects his aide by enveloping her in his smoke during another toxic air crisis. He never forgot Ianto and did everything he could to make sure he didn't let another loved one die like that.
Stop 😭
Their first and last kiss both happened while Ianto was 'dead'. But only one brought him back to life. 😭
How dare you to cut more onions TT
They did Ianto so dirty I loved him so much
I just watched a beautiful relationship be born, blossom and die in 16 minutes -
honestly hate CoE for killing Ianto, destroying the hub & being so messed up in general and STILL being so good 😭😭😭
it’s so good and i hate it
If anyone says "Doctor Who is woke now" I'll just show them this
Hell, Ace was basically all but outright stated to be lesbian with all the girls of the week she ended up with.
It’s not that it has gay characters but now it’s all so in your face. Ncuti Gatwa’s doctor acts very camp while all other gay or otherwise characters act normal showing that being gay can be the status quo and normalising it.
@@charlierenwick3682 there’s nothing wrong with being camp, camp gay men deserve as much respect as any other queer identity/expression, go with your internalized/misogynistic homofobia elsewhere, also I think Jack was very camp
There's a difference between having a gay couple on a show and forcing it through a quota. Woke is forcing it where there is no point to it.
@charlierenwick3682 Jack acted extremely camp too though, and Cassandra, and the master etc, etc. And it's not like this show has ever really been in favour of handling character's sexualities with tact and eloquence ( 'I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time and this is my wife!' 'We're the thin/fat/gay Anglican marines!' 'Men aren't where I keep my eye, actually', and so on) what I'm getting at is, I think a high camp tolerance is sort of a requirement with this franchise. If some of it isn't to your taste, that's fine (me and eleven's run never got on) but blaming the new queer rep feels wrong because the show's been at it for so long.
RTD writes the most heartbreaking relationships every time.
It's because any gay content he got when he was growing up was all misery and tragedy so he chooses to perpetuate the same cycle with his shows rather than give younger queers something more positive, like they need.
He also hated that a 'side character' (Ianto) got more attention than the 'star' he wrote in Gwen.
@@itsonlysound oh girl please id rather watch something tragic and entertaining than something bland and wholesome. U have heartstoppers and love Simon isn't that enough?
@@itsonlysoundGod, you Ianto fangirls absolutely cannot get over this pathetic decade-old hate boner you have for Gwen, can you?
@@wanderingshadow1372
I mean, GDL wrote a comic where the world ends because Ianto finds CCTV footage of Gwen and Jack nearly kissing.
@@nytesla_punk3327Just because he played your precious coffee boy, it doesn't mean Gareth David Lloyd does or should have any authority over how Gwen is written. How she is written in the expanded media is completely derivative of how she is written in the show. But I don't expect you Janto fangirls to know the difference between good accurate writing and terrible writing.
Their relationship development is practically non-existent, especially in the beginning, but since all the characters in this show are just disaster bi's, it actually works for them.
I love how jack is basically attracting lovers with his coat🤣🤣 I do get how it works...
I have a tailored red coat that surprisingly has the same effect. No matter who wears it, they instantly become more attractive
@@nebula5189 I’d like to see the coat please
For um scientific purposes
@@nebula5189omg wait same!!!
@@nebula5189could i perhaps... try it on??? It's for science
Oh damn... Haven't even watched torchwood, but I figured "Why not? It'll probably be cute." that, that hurt. And I barely know Ianto!
you should definitely watch torchwood, it hurts a lot but it’s also very good
I still haven’t watched the end and last season 😭
@@themoonchild7302 oh god, you’re in for a lot of pain when you do
Same! I got here because of a stupid crazy frog ringtone clip that caused me to go down a rabbit hole.
Jack and Ianto, forever one of the best ships, but can we just appreciate the score for the scene at 3:14.
Heck the entire score 👌🏼
0:45 That flashlight placement was no accident...
i never noticed that before lmaoo
I've always been a fan of Doctor Who ever since I was at a very young age, which was around the time Series 1 with RTD began, watched all of the Sarah Jane Adventures and finally gave Torchwood a shot, and I really adore the characters, the stories are emotional and captivating but some more than others, and how can nobody adore this couple?
Oh god I just watched the ep with the last scene in it and have been able to watch this video now... it's so bittersweet I might actually cry, I'm gonna go console myself with some fluff fics of them living happy lives together and pretend the children of earth series just never happened :(((
this is so real of you, hope you’re okay after watching coe 🫶
I'm ok now thanks, the fluff definitely helped lmao bc broke me haha @@iantosbf
The best couple. I wish they had more screen time together.
I love how you are still producing content for this show. I am absolutley craving it. Thank you :)
i only started watching the show a few months back so i’m still new to the fandom :D
They sure had chemistry
amazing chemistry between them
I want to know why Ianto Never painted his nails.THE WOULD SLAY THE HOUSE DOWN-
OMG THEY WOULD
Everytime I slip back into this fandom I always come back across this video again... Why do I keep forgetting how this ends 😭😭😭 missing janto hours
They killed my boy Ianto, I am still annoyed. How bloody dare you!!!!!!
i was so caught up in the euphoria of gay tv characters kissing that for like a minute i lived in a world where 'bury your gays' didn't exist
Bury your gay requires the gay dying to be a token gay. And the idea that the gay characters are the ones who never get a "happy ending" as opposed to the others since they're just there to give free pathos.
Which is not the case in torchwood. 1. It's a drama series 2. Jack was created as an anti "bury your gays" since he can't stay dead 3. at this point almost everyone died janto being good at pathos is mostly because they' ré one of the best developed part of the show 4. There's no token gay in this show.
oh COME ON! I just started watching Torchwood today - I just wanted to see them being cute! I DID NOT need that ending!!! 😭
oh no i’m so sorry 😭
To be fair you brought it on yourself by looking at spoilers 😂
@@lyndsey8088 in defense of the poster, the title did not have a spoiler warning. For all they knew it was just cute moment compilations.
@@abbycollins sure but the episode also came out in 2009 I mean there’s only so much you can do
I finished watching COE day 4 today, I'm now binging ianto compilations to cope 😭
SO REAL
I miss Jack and ianto 😭😭😭
me too 💔
Time to dig out my Big Finish Audios after seeing this.
you should listen to outbreak for the angst definitely
SOBBING, STILL NOT OVER HIS DEATH 😭
I miss them so much 😢
same :((
well he didnt have to die
it's impossible not to cry actually :(
such a shame we wont get another Torchwood series or audio dramas with Jack its unfair
"I love you"
"Dont :("
X_X
"IANTO STAY WIT ME PLS"
"Dont forget me"
"Never could"
"Thousand years of time. You wont remember me."
* "Yes i will, i promise. I will."
*i love you too
cpr? no making out? yes
appreciate the apology dude cheers XD
God i miss torchwood
same
The office scene😂
NAWR AT 7:25 IT WAS THE PERFECT MOMENT FOR THEM TO KISS
I thought I had numbed myself for Ianto's death but it still hurts like hell even after all these years 😭😭😭
5:13 HELP ME
I never watched an episode after Ianto’s passing, I just couldn’t (he was my fav)
I’d pay all the money I have in my bank account just for Ianto to not die 😭
I don’t have any money. I’d give my left leg
i miss them sm :(((
Missing them today xx
missing them every day
It was supposed to be of old age it was supposed to be of old age it was supposed to be of old age it was supposed to be
Love yanto and jack together after all this years😢❤🤧
Still bitter about this death 13 years later 😅
Saaame 😂
I didn't even watch the last episode of the third season or any of the fourth. I haven't watched anything past the second season since the original airing of Ianto being killed off. What ticked me off was after shooting was done, when the cast was at comic com shows and the fans told them they wanted more Jack/Ianto, the fans were told they were going to be very happy with season 3. Since there was only one more season after that with greatly depleted ratings, I don't think the fans were happy.
I love that title!
Jones, Ianto Jones 007, Coffeeking@, aWatere11 what have you done to me??? Still love the boys.
I love that it’s EXACTLY 16minutes not 16mins and 40secounds or 17mins or 15:54 it’s exactly 16minutes 👏👏👏
I think we honestly deserve "Jack's" real name
nah we really do
@@iantosbf like it would have to be great since if it turns out his name is simple like my name it takes the thrill away
His real name is Javic Piotr Thane. It's in the audios.
@@captainghost7044what audios? why did I not know these exist?
@@themoonchild7302 Lives of Captain Jack ✌
still waiting on torchwood s5 when ianto is brought back to life and him and jack live a long happy life and nothing bad ever happens again 😁 (im delusional)
Wait.. Ianto died? I must have erased that from my memories.
0:52 I don't get Iantos stopwatch reference, can someone explain pls
using a stopwatch, one could time anything, including time it takes for.... things to happen
Plenty of time to fool around.😉
ianto dying was a lie, jack breathed in the air and started hallucinating. after the series, jack and ianto reunited and lived a happy life together. [ or, atleast ianto did :( ]
Such a good video it so good and so sweet
imagine still burying your gays in 2009
ngl my friends and i recreated all of these scenes 😂😂🤣🤣🩷🩷🤣🤣
where has this been
HELP I NEVER WATCHED THIS I DIDNT KNOW THEY WERE CANON
69K views... how fitting
What episodes is the 7.50 from
S02E12 - Fragments
Where can I watch it from
bbc iplayer if you’re in the uk :)
Hbo max
Stan in Australia
iplayer in general
So ianto died
bruh
Ianto was the worst character in this show his and jacks relationship always felt extremely forced and you won't change my mind
imo ianto had so much potential. since the very beginning we see him as a caring and loyal romantic partner who will do anything to protect the ones he loves, plus he is very good at hiding his feelings / emotions and intentions. also we shown how he and jack met there was some kind of “flirty chemistry” (it was only a way for ianto to get into torchwood, we sll know it) but slowly jack comes to appreciate ianto’ s presence and actd.
their relationship is not forced, rather they hadn’ t had enough time to develop (?) an emotional connection.
i do not mean to offend you, it is meant to be an exchange of opinions.