Ok, so the giveaway bit didn't make it into the final video(it was recorded and glitched out of the final render or something) . BASICALLY, there will be a year-end giveaway for youtube members (its just $1 per month ..$3 tier if you're feeling generous) ..so join up because..well free stuff !!! It's going to be super !!!
You are spot on! Ambient mode 1 blocks out way more noise for me compared to noise cancelling mode. No other reviewers I found caught this. Spot on review!
I have these headphones and am very pleased with them. You can't sleep on your side in them, but the noise cancellation is very good. They fit very tightly in the ear and do not fall off when running. Just right for my ears. The sound is very good and I’m glad that I was able to connect my Sony TV to my TV and now I don’t hear any extraneous sounds when watching my favorite movies.❤
Bruh, you mention the points the nobody and nowhere in the whole world mentions and i was looking for everywhere yet only found in your reviews, that's great and i admire you for it, keep it up bro you are great 👍
Changing the volume with taps is indeed badly implemented but it does NOT take that many taps. After the fourth tap every subsequent one will increase the volume, and MAYBE logarithmically (at first in small steps, and later in larger steps).
Ah! You're right! Provided the successive tapping is done rapidly enough. Much more practical. Still inconvenient though, he's right about that, and like him I wish all the taps/gestures were fully re-assignable.
For me the technics az80 is overall a better bud and I'm curious if soundcore come out with a liberty 4 Pro... They have a new headphone coming next week so maybe buds are coming too..
I've had two pairs of Sony's (XM4 and Linkbud S) and both sets have had one ear bud battery fail to charge properly ~1 year after purchase. For $300, I'd like to be able to use these for several years if I want. The cost to replace is essentially the same as a new pair, so in my case, they've been disposable after a year of use. I've seen similar issues with Sennheiser as well.
@@imwhatsnew Will do! I liked your review. I appreciate the comments you made wondering if the companies were actually thinking about their consumers. It does make you wonder if they are just churning out features or if they are based on customer feedback.
I had exactly this issue with XM4. After one year of use one side bearly lasts 20 minutes. I'm searching for replacement batteries (I'd be ready to to the swap myself) but they are difficult to find, at least where I live.
Try Sony customer service. Even if out of warranty. I got a free upgrade, because it was a known issue for certain hardware versions. Grateful that Sony played clean!
I love this video dude! I like the humor and overall style. I’ve watched some of your other stuff but it’s been a short while. I really like the section where you compared mic performance against the previous XM4. It was outside in an actual environment on the extreme side and it was also long enough to really listen and notice a thing or two. It was also pretty funny, really like that. I do think the XM5 was a little more intelligible, but man these aren’t too good compared to some other earbuds huh. Also like that bit where the “Nigerian prince” called during the short head gestures section lol. Little funny things like that are a nice touch. I agree with the negatives. The eartips may be ok if they fit and happen to be comfortable, but if not, you’re screwed and are forced to look elsewhere. It’s a shame Sony is leaning so heavily into passive noise isolation and don’t even want to provide silicone tips, for example. They know these don’t perform nearly as well without their unique eartips as AREGINA shows during his testing. Controls should be like Sennheiser’s MTW earbuds where you can customize each and every tap. These are premium earbuds in 2023, pretty straightforward. The previous XM4 battery situation is all over the internet as I’m sure you’ve seen. While a small difference between left and right earbuds isn’t the end of the world, when it starts to become very noticeable, it doesn’t make you feel too good considering the XM4’s situation. Really hope it doesn’t become that. I haven’t experienced it with my XM4. An important note is that I’ve noticed a lot of people mentioning they either charge wirelessly or use chargers that can provide high wattage, and many experience excess heat during charging. I know modern devices are supposed to be able to limit how much they can receive but maybe this was part of the issue with their firmware updates. It could’ve mistakenly caused issues with limiting the amount of acceptable watts. Coincidentally, I’ve always only used a 5w charger. Never once wirelessly charged or used a charger with higher power delivery. I don’t know that it’s a coincidence that my battery is fine. I understand proper measuring rigs adhering to a standard aren’t cheap. Rigs from the likes of GRAS, B&K, and Head Acoustics cost thousands of dollars. Heck, the B&K 5128 can be 10s of thousands of dollars. Just crazy. I’m just sayin that the results for your ANC graphs, for example, don’t look anything like what we see on SoundGuys (B&K 5128) and RTINGS (HMS II.3). Advanced users know that these results and info are rather useless. If a measuring rig isn’t simulating the anatomical structure and acoustic load of a human ear, the results simply can not be at all meaningful. I really think it would be so much better to use data from sources who do use this kind of equipment like SoundGuys, RTINGS, AREGINA, 0DiBi, Crinacle, etc. As an example, your ANC results show that the XM4 attenuates more in the very low and highest frequencies. Other results show the complete opposite in that the XM5 outperforms their predecessor in this region. The overall shape and amount of attenuation for various regions is also very off compared to others. Side note: Try cutting 400hz aside from just clear bass if you want to reduce your perception of muddiness. If you look at measurements from SuperReview’s Squig, for example. You can actually compare and see how the equalizer behaves for the XM4. You can look at stock tuning vs. excited preset vs. bass boost preset. Excited is the only one of these three that cuts 400hz by 1. And so by comparing this to stock tuning, you can see that cutting 400hz affects a decently wide area below 400hz. These are the frequencies where muddiness is. Clear bass, as you can see, has a center frequency somewhere around 50-60hz. Even though it does appear to have a low Q factor, it doesn’t boost or cut any frequencies high enough to get into that muddy range. That’s what the 400hz band is for. Of course, we have to make educated guesses since we don’t know what Q factors are used for each band. But by comparing presets like this, you can make some excellent educated guesses. And of course, the XM5 would behave extremely similar considering the presets are the same and even sound signature is extremely similar.
Hey, thanks a bunch. So, a couple of things. I actually mentioned in a video discussing this that my ANC measurements are not accurate in isolation but are consistently useful and quite representative of anc performance when comparing multiple iems on the same rig. While the stated noise reduction values may not match, that of sound guys (remember various publications themselves dont match each others findings), the overall trend of noise reduction is very similar to that of soundguys' results(or others ) in most cases. Of course, variations do exist. This is why i usually cover difference in broad strokes or mids and highs withiut concentrating on any small (narrow band) peaks and dips. Additionally, until recently my measurements were no good under 120hz and beyond 7khz ..this has since been resolved( for under 120hz..above 7khz my rig simply cannot have accuracy )..so the xm4 was on the old measuring apparatus and the xm5 on the new one..this is why I never mention that region in any video but taking your impression on board perhaps I should just gate the resulting graphs for clarity. As for eq, I actually do know what the sliders do because for every measurement I show there are usually about 10-30 measurements I don't show which involves me finding out what the scope of the onboard eq is. This would bore my audience if I showed it so instead I just give recommended eq settings instead ...more yt audience friendly. (Though I have thrown nuggets of info from my data in various other reviews which show some on board eq to be all but useless box ticking exercises on the manufacturers part ;)) I always appreciate the feedback though and I'm glad you came back to watch some more videos :)
@@imwhatsnew You’re right and I did neglect to acknowledge that it can be useful when comparing IEMs from the same rig, even if not the most accurate. In the sense that you can say one has more/ less this or that over another. And the frequency response measurement actually looked similar enough to others out there. If that was yours, I’d be super interested in a Technics EAH-AZ80 review. I can’t seem to find a single measurement of these. And they seem to be a top tier earbud overall. I remember you did a review for an older Technics earbud and didn’t really like them. I feel like these could redeem the company lol. And thank you for responding to my ridiculously long message haha. I didn’t realize how long it was ‘till it was said and done but was like fuck it, might as well post it. I wanted to say I remember a video where you filmed it in a style where you were moving along, like one scene to the next. Maybe the previous XM4 earbuds or Sony Linkbuds S? Sounds familiar. And the older Technics one, you were driving I think. I know that might not be too safe lol. But I just wanted to stress how cool this style is. I don’t see it often. I’ve watched many, many videos like these. Yours definitely stands out in that style. I know it isn’t easy, and filming and editing is A LOT of work in and of itself. So maybe just once in a while. But those style of videos are so good! Maybe one for the EAH-AZ80? lol alright I’ll stop now haha. Thanks again man, take care!
Fantastic review as usual. For me I had to switch to the azla standard max tips. Works great but u do lose a bit with anc, sound id fine though. The foam tips these come with are rubbish in my opinion (for my ears). Azla have a foam tip coming soon for the xm5
I'm getting the wf xm4 for around $92 vs xm5 for $200... Should I still go with the xm5?? Is it that good? Pls advice Also, my phone supports only BT5.2 and not planning to upgrade for another 2 years. Do sony give updates for xm4 since xm5 is now released?
What I really want to know is if you can use both the left and right buds independently. With the mk4, I can only use the right on its own. The mk4 cannot use only the left. I suspect that is the reason for the battery imbalance, they always want the left to die first, since you can’t use it if the right dies.
👍🏽 I would really like to have your opinion (a test), on the LG Tone Free fp8/fp9. I think that, 2 years later, they remain among the best in terms of sound 🔊, and currently, they are found quite regularly around $100. 🙏🏽
That was on top of Jen hotel in Maldives . Nice)) I have the Boss QC2 and Xm5. I'm disappointed with this it keeps falling off. They bounce creating the clicking noise. Well said. Coping. Anc not so great compared to airpods 2 and Bose qc2
XM5's have bigger diaphragms so I'd expect (and believe I experience) better bass and/or better battery life (due to reduced degree of bass EQ/overdriving). I'm a rock bass player. I like my bass _heavy_. I also like my hearing, and being able to listen to the world while using them, so I don't have them very loud. More like "low-level with loudness (compensation) enabled". Context is everything.
Call quality is fine but not as good as I expected it to be. The xiaomi buds 4 Pro I got on discount have amazing mics... Shockingly good in noisy environments (but overpriced buds)
Bhaiya ek past question.... Link buds s ( 9000) Xm 5 (17000) I don't want wireless charging and spatial audio... Now what's the best option out of these ... Best earbuds under 20k
I'm disappointed you haven't touched on difference in sound (which is huge) between ANC ON and OFF, for this kind of deep down test/ review. Let alone there isn't even mention in what mode the sound test was done. I can only guess, when speaking of boosted bass, the ANC was ON. I am really interested in your opinion on sound with ANC OFF.
You're right. It is noticeable but bringing the bass slider town a notch or two whils t in noise cancelling mode gives you the best of both ...so I just covered the latter.
Looks like there’s no perfect in ear buds. I don’t mind paying $500 for a complete package, Bose have best ANC and Bass acoustic but battery on ANC it’s only 5 to 6 hours so no good for sleep or long trips. XM5 claims 8 hrs but in reality it’s 5 to 6 hrs too finally the Momentum 3 has great battery on ANC but full of others issues.
Came across your review. I own the XM5 and have never had better earbuds than these! I've tried them side by side with the Bose QC Buds II, and the Airpods Pro 2. To me the XM5 has better noise cancelling, yes I know the Bose cancel out more noise, but when I wear them I get a terrible pressurized feeling. The soung quality on both the Bose and the Airpods sound more tinny and hollow than the XM5 and also don't have the signature Sony bass! As for the shaking in the ear, I totally agree, It is annoying, but is not as bad as you make out, it doesn't disturb me much. Instead of focusing on the minor ''flaws'', how about speaking all the amazing parts of these earbuds, which I'll gladly tell you about! Both the Bose and the Airpods have flaws which you didn't talk about. People watching your review might think that these earbuds are terrible!🤔
Came acrops your comment. If you notice, the vast majority of the review was positive, and only 2 real deal breakers were identified.. the battery drain and the fit mostly due to the hybrid tips. I clearly mentioned more than once that i really liked these, but neither of these flaws is acceptable at this price. I have clearly mentioned flaws of the other iems in their own reviews. Feel free to check those videos out.Thanks for watching :).
@@imwhatsnew Not sure what battery drain you're talking about... The earbuds last for me as Sony says. Personally I don't use them for running, so for me these tips are more comfortable, provide a better seal, and keep the earbuds from slipping out of my ears. BTW when you're comparing a product with another product, you don't just mention the good parts about the comparing product... It was as if the whole point of the review was trying to prove that the XM5 Doesn't compare to the Bose and Airpods.🙂
@ShaiTheGreatGuy the asymmetric battery drain was the issue ...this is a well documented issue on sony earbuds. The fit is not just about you, just because you don't run as much doesn't mean it isn't relevant. As for a comparison, this is not a comparison.. only a few points of comparison were provided for context on a couple of things. I get that you like the product and it's obvious I like it but it's obvious that it has a couple of issues that the viewer ought to know about...I've highlighted both good and not so good. This is a review... again, feel free to check out other videos to get an idea of my work.
@@imwhatsnew i have used Sony earbuds 4 days and noise cancellation is total bullshit. I had Bose Quietcomforts 1 and they were 2-3x more better. I want quality on this price. i might change them for bose II if in warranty they find out that these headphones have defect. Also the umcomfortability is the worst. 1h and i need to take off the buds, because of the aching in ears. But of course if u want i can sell these earbuds for 250€, u get also 2 years extra warranty. 320€+ 55€ for 2 years extra :D
Hi sir, I think the mic quality is still not good enough.... In terms of audio I think they could have gone for a balanced sound signature considering the price the graph that was provided by you.... I know for a fact that it does support EQ and works well but how many are out there who understand about custom EQ.... Lastly I would like to request you to please make a video on the custom EQ (advanced EQ) of the nothing ear 2..... Sorry to bother you but depending on you this time sir....🙏 Nothing has also added a feature where you can share your custom EQ settings via a qr.... Hope you have a good day sir😊
Any "tricks" / "Easter egg" codes/actions/gestures (whatever) to access mic EQ? I'd turn up the sibilants frequencies if I could, based on what people I phone say, and compared to the sound from Apple's ones. Clarity is more important than "naturalness", especially for those people "at the other end" with hearing difficulties.
When needed, I only wear one on the uppermost side of my head, having first selected noise cancellation and then disconnected it from any devices (reduces the chance of getting "dinging" alerts etc). Pillow handles the other half, so no earbud advantage there in any case.
Contact Sony customer service. Even if out of warranty. I got a free upgrade, because it was a known issue for certain hardware versions. Sony played clean!
they want to get better but they are really fumbling customer solidarity, my XM4s have terrible battery life just a year and some change. like from 6 hours to almost an hour on the left one.
Contact Sony customer service. ! I did, and they free-upgraded me to XM5's. Despite my XM4's being out of warranty (more than a year). Because a known firmware issue caused battery degradation (down to about 1 hour) in some specific hardware versions of the earbuds.
Quick question, I had the XM4s and had the horrible metallic pinging noise in them, in the process of a warranty return through Sony on them. Does anyone know if they resolved this issue with the XM5s by chance?
I know this is an old comment, but I'm going to respond anyway. I also had the WF-XM4s, and I returned them because of the size and that metal pinging sound. I got the XM5s last week and I'm happy to say it resolved these issues.
Hi - Samsung wf-1000xm5 v/s jabra elite 10, which one do you suggest in terms of Sound quality and noise cancelling ?And price is not a constraint for me!
xm5 has better noise cancelling, second only to Bose QC ultra and 2. The mic sounds robotic but it is the most quiet option out there, i.e., it cancels all ambient noise during a phone call. Both sounds really good. However, it takes a little bit of time to get used to the foam ear tips if it's your first time.
@@KhanhNguyen-gd8fv the foam tips feel a bit scratchy at first, but eventually they smooth out, probably due to getting imbibed with skin oils or sweat or earwax. Meaning, clean them often, but don't be very thorough :D
I like my mx5 but there is one big flaw for me with them. I wear them when going to bed. I will remove them before falling to sleep but I don't always have the case at hand. You cannot turn them off without the case and in the morning they have ran out of battery. I don't think the battery will last long in this kind of conditions, drained daily.
@evolution5052 look you have to know what you prioritize ...for comfort and sound quality is the linkbuds and the op buds pro 2...galaxy buds pro 2 also for the same but it doesn't fit some people... xm5 has good sound quality and is small in size if that's what you want ...
@@imwhatsnew I want the best comfort and fit ( I have small ears ) and the best value for money Currently getting Link buds @ 11k Xm5 @ 18k-16k Bose qc 2 @15k Op pro2 @ 5k Op buds 3 @ 5k
This vs something like the Etymotic ES2? I know they are very different sound signatures but how do they compare in terms of quality? (Pure sound quality).
Apart from tuning differences, a wired set that is tuned well will likely have more detail overall. Tuning wise, the sony is quite bass boosted and etymotics usually aren't....etymotics tend to be darker sounding in the treble also.
I really believe that Sony are taking the P calling these buds noise cancelling. They simply don’t work very well. Good sound, but for the same money I could buy a great set of wired IEMs, have better sound and probably have better passive noise cancelling than Sonys ANC.
1. So, Sony lied about the battery life. Five hours isn't even close to eight hours. 2. The fit doesn't hold the buds firmly during exercise. 3. The buds don't work well for phone calls in noisy environments. 4. I don't like speak-to-chat functions. I had it in my Samsung buds. Like you, it constantly switched on when I didn't want it to. 5. The four-tap volume control is incredibly stupid. Changing volume is the most used function on earbuds. 6. Sony's batteries on the XM5s have reports of losing most of the battery function in a year if you use the earbuds every day. 7. The Bose QC II Ultra earbuds have superior ANC 8. The Bose QC II transparency mode is better than the Sony XM5s. 9. I am betting that the immersive mode on the Bose QC II outperforms the Sony XM5s by quite a margin.
The four-tap is unbelievable self-sabotage. Truly weird. Can't even reassign it to "spare" fewer-taps. But at least after those first four taps, if you continue tapping at a fast rate, it continues to change with each of those single additional taps. Mad though!
@@DavidEsp1 Wow, that would just drive me crazy. I own the Bose QC II Ultra earbuds and I have to tap three times to repeat a song - and I really don't like tapping my earbuds that much. Fortunately, with the Bose, you can lightly tap the earbuds so it doesn't hurt your ears so much. The Bose QC Ultra earbuds would be the perfect earbuds if they had multipoint connection. That is their only major weakness.
@@charlie19892009 ok so wear the earphones and tap on the headphones app.(sonys accompanying app) go to the sound section . Now tap your left earbud once and see the mode change in the app...this way you can figure out which sound means what.
Sony wireless earbud has leave a super bad taste to experience. Since the mark version xm 3 till 5, their noise cancelling, transparency, sound and extra features + Price tag are just marketing bullshit 🙄 😑. Sony need to have a much better product quality control and product design on their ear fit. Sony also need to fix their Bluetooth connection dropping out all the time
Ok, so the giveaway bit didn't make it into the final video(it was recorded and glitched out of the final render or something) .
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You are spot on! Ambient mode 1 blocks out way more noise for me compared to noise cancelling mode. No other reviewers I found caught this. Spot on review!
Your videos are so great. I like them. So many information with professional testing. Best regards from Poland.
Champion. Telling it like it is. Appreciated. Helped me dodge a bullet.
I have these headphones and am very pleased with them. You can't sleep on your side in them, but the noise cancellation is very good. They fit very tightly in the ear and do not fall off when running. Just right for my ears. The sound is very good and I’m glad that I was able to connect my Sony TV to my TV and now I don’t hear any extraneous sounds when watching my favorite movies.❤
I like how you point out some huge cons, but you still appreciate the quality thats there.
Wow. Actually. No other channel give so much detail i
Bruh, you mention the points the nobody and nowhere in the whole world mentions and i was looking for everywhere yet only found in your reviews, that's great and i admire you for it, keep it up bro you are great 👍
Changing the volume with taps is indeed badly implemented but it does NOT take that many taps. After the fourth tap every subsequent one will increase the volume, and MAYBE logarithmically (at first in small steps, and later in larger steps).
Ah! You're right! Provided the successive tapping is done rapidly enough. Much more practical. Still inconvenient though, he's right about that, and like him I wish all the taps/gestures were fully re-assignable.
For me the technics az80 is overall a better bud and I'm curious if soundcore come out with a liberty 4 Pro... They have a new headphone coming next week so maybe buds are coming too..
Thanks for that review, packed with what's important, presented really well. Enjoyed it thoroughly
Another great review
Still,
Nobody is making replacement ear tips available-ESPECIALLY FOR THE BEIGE COLOUR-WHY?.
The eartips are made from polyurethane and i think it dont quite seal properly. You are right
I've had two pairs of Sony's (XM4 and Linkbud S) and both sets have had one ear bud battery fail to charge properly ~1 year after purchase. For $300, I'd like to be able to use these for several years if I want. The cost to replace is essentially the same as a new pair, so in my case, they've been disposable after a year of use. I've seen similar issues with Sennheiser as well.
Well I'm about to review the bose and Jabra offerings so stay tuned
@@imwhatsnew Will do! I liked your review. I appreciate the comments you made wondering if the companies were actually thinking about their consumers. It does make you wonder if they are just churning out features or if they are based on customer feedback.
I had exactly this issue with XM4. After one year of use one side bearly lasts 20 minutes. I'm searching for replacement batteries (I'd be ready to to the swap myself) but they are difficult to find, at least where I live.
Try Sony customer service. Even if out of warranty. I got a free upgrade, because it was a known issue for certain hardware versions. Grateful that Sony played clean!
I love this video dude! I like the humor and overall style. I’ve watched some of your other stuff but it’s been a short while. I really like the section where you compared mic performance against the previous XM4. It was outside in an actual environment on the extreme side and it was also long enough to really listen and notice a thing or two. It was also pretty funny, really like that. I do think the XM5 was a little more intelligible, but man these aren’t too good compared to some other earbuds huh. Also like that bit where the “Nigerian prince” called during the short head gestures section lol. Little funny things like that are a nice touch.
I agree with the negatives. The eartips may be ok if they fit and happen to be comfortable, but if not, you’re screwed and are forced to look elsewhere. It’s a shame Sony is leaning so heavily into passive noise isolation and don’t even want to provide silicone tips, for example. They know these don’t perform nearly as well without their unique eartips as AREGINA shows during his testing. Controls should be like Sennheiser’s MTW earbuds where you can customize each and every tap. These are premium earbuds in 2023, pretty straightforward.
The previous XM4 battery situation is all over the internet as I’m sure you’ve seen. While a small difference between left and right earbuds isn’t the end of the world, when it starts to become very noticeable, it doesn’t make you feel too good considering the XM4’s situation. Really hope it doesn’t become that. I haven’t experienced it with my XM4. An important note is that I’ve noticed a lot of people mentioning they either charge wirelessly or use chargers that can provide high wattage, and many experience excess heat during charging. I know modern devices are supposed to be able to limit how much they can receive but maybe this was part of the issue with their firmware updates. It could’ve mistakenly caused issues with limiting the amount of acceptable watts. Coincidentally, I’ve always only used a 5w charger. Never once wirelessly charged or used a charger with higher power delivery. I don’t know that it’s a coincidence that my battery is fine.
I understand proper measuring rigs adhering to a standard aren’t cheap. Rigs from the likes of GRAS, B&K, and Head Acoustics cost thousands of dollars. Heck, the B&K 5128 can be 10s of thousands of dollars. Just crazy. I’m just sayin that the results for your ANC graphs, for example, don’t look anything like what we see on SoundGuys (B&K 5128) and RTINGS (HMS II.3). Advanced users know that these results and info are rather useless. If a measuring rig isn’t simulating the anatomical structure and acoustic load of a human ear, the results simply can not be at all meaningful. I really think it would be so much better to use data from sources who do use this kind of equipment like SoundGuys, RTINGS, AREGINA, 0DiBi, Crinacle, etc. As an example, your ANC results show that the XM4 attenuates more in the very low and highest frequencies. Other results show the complete opposite in that the XM5 outperforms their predecessor in this region. The overall shape and amount of attenuation for various regions is also very off compared to others.
Side note: Try cutting 400hz aside from just clear bass if you want to reduce your perception of muddiness. If you look at measurements from SuperReview’s Squig, for example. You can actually compare and see how the equalizer behaves for the XM4. You can look at stock tuning vs. excited preset vs. bass boost preset. Excited is the only one of these three that cuts 400hz by 1. And so by comparing this to stock tuning, you can see that cutting 400hz affects a decently wide area below 400hz. These are the frequencies where muddiness is. Clear bass, as you can see, has a center frequency somewhere around 50-60hz. Even though it does appear to have a low Q factor, it doesn’t boost or cut any frequencies high enough to get into that muddy range. That’s what the 400hz band is for. Of course, we have to make educated guesses since we don’t know what Q factors are used for each band. But by comparing presets like this, you can make some excellent educated guesses. And of course, the XM5 would behave extremely similar considering the presets are the same and even sound signature is extremely similar.
Hey, thanks a bunch. So, a couple of things. I actually mentioned in a video discussing this that my ANC measurements are not accurate in isolation but are consistently useful and quite representative of anc performance when comparing multiple iems on the same rig. While the stated noise reduction values may not match, that of sound guys (remember various publications themselves dont match each others findings), the overall trend of noise reduction is very similar to that of soundguys' results(or others ) in most cases. Of course, variations do exist. This is why i usually cover difference in broad strokes or mids and highs withiut concentrating on any small (narrow band) peaks and dips. Additionally, until recently my measurements were no good under 120hz and beyond 7khz ..this has since been resolved( for under 120hz..above 7khz my rig simply cannot have accuracy )..so the xm4 was on the old measuring apparatus and the xm5 on the new one..this is why I never mention that region in any video but taking your impression on board perhaps I should just gate the resulting graphs for clarity.
As for eq, I actually do know what the sliders do because for every measurement I show there are usually about 10-30 measurements I don't show which involves me finding out what the scope of the onboard eq is. This would bore my audience if I showed it so instead I just give recommended eq settings instead ...more yt audience friendly. (Though I have thrown nuggets of info from my data in various other reviews which show some on board eq to be all but useless box ticking exercises on the manufacturers part ;)) I always appreciate the feedback though and I'm glad you came back to watch some more videos :)
@@imwhatsnew You’re right and I did neglect to acknowledge that it can be useful when comparing IEMs from the same rig, even if not the most accurate. In the sense that you can say one has more/ less this or that over another. And the frequency response measurement actually looked similar enough to others out there. If that was yours, I’d be super interested in a Technics EAH-AZ80 review. I can’t seem to find a single measurement of these. And they seem to be a top tier earbud overall. I remember you did a review for an older Technics earbud and didn’t really like them. I feel like these could redeem the company lol.
And thank you for responding to my ridiculously long message haha. I didn’t realize how long it was ‘till it was said and done but was like fuck it, might as well post it.
I wanted to say I remember a video where you filmed it in a style where you were moving along, like one scene to the next. Maybe the previous XM4 earbuds or Sony Linkbuds S? Sounds familiar. And the older Technics one, you were driving I think. I know that might not be too safe lol. But I just wanted to stress how cool this style is. I don’t see it often. I’ve watched many, many videos like these. Yours definitely stands out in that style. I know it isn’t easy, and filming and editing is A LOT of work in and of itself. So maybe just once in a while. But those style of videos are so good! Maybe one for the EAH-AZ80? lol alright I’ll stop now haha. Thanks again man, take care!
I'm returning mine. They hurt like hell if I have them in for about an hour and they don't go in my ears all the way so the ANC is weak.
Fantastic review as usual. For me I had to switch to the azla standard max tips. Works great but u do lose a bit with anc, sound id fine though. The foam tips these come with are rubbish in my opinion (for my ears). Azla have a foam tip coming soon for the xm5
You talked about third-party foam tips? Which one should i get??
I'm getting the wf xm4 for around $92 vs xm5 for $200... Should I still go with the xm5?? Is it that good? Pls advice
Also, my phone supports only BT5.2 and not planning to upgrade for another 2 years.
Do sony give updates for xm4 since xm5 is now released?
go for the xm5. It's really good and will be good for another 2 3 years.
Waste of that money too
Won't last couple of months before u have these asymmetrical battery drains
What I really want to know is if you can use both the left and right buds independently. With the mk4, I can only use the right on its own. The mk4 cannot use only the left.
I suspect that is the reason for the battery imbalance, they always want the left to die first, since you can’t use it if the right dies.
YES this is what I was looking for!
I have these, all of a sudden left bud I can't hardly hear😢 I've tried everything , maybe a driver is broken,sounds like no bass any ideas😢
Finally the review I was waiting for
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I would really like to have your opinion (a test), on the LG Tone Free fp8/fp9.
I think that, 2 years later, they remain among the best in terms of sound 🔊, and currently, they are found quite regularly around $100.
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That was on top of Jen hotel in Maldives . Nice)) I have the Boss QC2 and Xm5. I'm disappointed with this it keeps falling off. They bounce creating the clicking noise. Well said. Coping. Anc not so great compared to airpods 2 and Bose qc2
I HATE the volume adjustment. Who thought up this approach? 4 touches? Jeez
Great review!
I use the volume touch control, you get used and it works really well
Good video. You should do a battle of Sony mx5 vs Bose quiet comfort ultra
Here all xm5 earbuds in Hyderabad have no noise cancellation at all. Tried 2 demos here
battery replacement or disposable in 2 years
XM5's have bigger diaphragms so I'd expect (and believe I experience) better bass and/or better battery life (due to reduced degree of bass EQ/overdriving).
I'm a rock bass player. I like my bass _heavy_. I also like my hearing, and being able to listen to the world while using them, so I don't have them very loud. More like "low-level with loudness (compensation) enabled".
Context is everything.
Help please which sounds the best? This sony, galaxy buds 2 pro or nothing ear 2?
Call quality is fine but not as good as I expected it to be. The xiaomi buds 4 Pro I got on discount have amazing mics... Shockingly good in noisy environments (but overpriced buds)
Whatsnew i love your details you should compare Bose quiet comfort ultra to sony wfmx5
Bhaiya ek past question....
Link buds s ( 9000)
Xm 5 (17000)
I don't want wireless charging and spatial audio...
Now what's the best option out of these ...
Best earbuds under 20k
@@evolution5052 linkbuds s is your bang for buck right now ..and one of the most comfortable also
@@imwhatsnew really really appreciate your reply 😊😊😊😊😊
I'm disappointed you haven't touched on difference in sound (which is huge) between ANC ON and OFF, for this kind of deep down test/ review. Let alone there isn't even mention in what mode the sound test was done. I can only guess, when speaking of boosted bass, the ANC was ON. I am really interested in your opinion on sound with ANC OFF.
You're right. It is noticeable but bringing the bass slider town a notch or two whils t in noise cancelling mode gives you the best of both ...so I just covered the latter.
Looks like there’s no perfect in ear buds. I don’t mind paying $500 for a complete package, Bose have best ANC and Bass acoustic but battery on ANC it’s only 5 to 6 hours so no good for sleep or long trips. XM5 claims 8 hrs but in reality it’s 5 to 6 hrs too finally the Momentum 3 has great battery on ANC but full of others issues.
Do people really set their volume to 50-60%? You lot are absolutely killing your ears. I have my volume set to 30 max.
Foxes don't have any earing problem issues, that's why.
Always at max!
50-60% is always when in loud environment
It will be funny watching all you fools when your stuck swapping out those nice earbuds for hearaide.
Some of us are going deaf because we abused our ears earlier in life lol
Came across your review. I own the XM5 and have never had better earbuds than these! I've tried them side by side with the Bose QC Buds II, and the Airpods Pro 2. To me the XM5 has better noise cancelling, yes I know the Bose cancel out more noise, but when I wear them I get a terrible pressurized feeling. The soung quality on both the Bose and the Airpods sound more tinny and hollow than the XM5 and also don't have the signature Sony bass! As for the shaking in the ear, I totally agree, It is annoying, but is not as bad as you make out, it doesn't disturb me much. Instead of focusing on the minor ''flaws'', how about speaking all the amazing parts of these earbuds, which I'll gladly tell you about! Both the Bose and the Airpods have flaws which you didn't talk about. People watching your review might think that these earbuds are terrible!🤔
Came acrops your comment. If you notice, the vast majority of the review was positive, and only 2 real deal breakers were identified.. the battery drain and the fit mostly due to the hybrid tips. I clearly mentioned more than once that i really liked these, but neither of these flaws is acceptable at this price. I have clearly mentioned flaws of the other iems in their own reviews. Feel free to check those videos out.Thanks for watching :).
@@imwhatsnew Not sure what battery drain you're talking about... The earbuds last for me as Sony says. Personally I don't use them for running, so for me these tips are more comfortable, provide a better seal, and keep the earbuds from slipping out of my ears. BTW when you're comparing a product with another product, you don't just mention the good parts about the comparing product... It was as if the whole point of the review was trying to prove that the XM5 Doesn't compare to the Bose and Airpods.🙂
@ShaiTheGreatGuy the asymmetric battery drain was the issue ...this is a well documented issue on sony earbuds. The fit is not just about you, just because you don't run as much doesn't mean it isn't relevant. As for a comparison, this is not a comparison.. only a few points of comparison were provided for context on a couple of things. I get that you like the product and it's obvious I like it but it's obvious that it has a couple of issues that the viewer ought to know about...I've highlighted both good and not so good. This is a review... again, feel free to check out other videos to get an idea of my work.
@@imwhatsnew i have used Sony earbuds 4 days and noise cancellation is total bullshit. I had Bose Quietcomforts 1 and they were 2-3x more better. I want quality on this price. i might change them for bose II if in warranty they find out that these headphones have defect. Also the umcomfortability is the worst. 1h and i need to take off the buds, because of the aching in ears. But of course if u want i can sell these earbuds for 250€, u get also 2 years extra warranty. 320€+ 55€ for 2 years extra :D
Hi sir, I think the mic quality is still not good enough.... In terms of audio I think they could have gone for a balanced sound signature considering the price the graph that was provided by you.... I know for a fact that it does support EQ and works well but how many are out there who understand about custom EQ.... Lastly I would like to request you to please make a video on the custom EQ (advanced EQ) of the nothing ear 2..... Sorry to bother you but depending on you this time sir....🙏 Nothing has also added a feature where you can share your custom EQ settings via a qr.... Hope you have a good day sir😊
Any "tricks" / "Easter egg" codes/actions/gestures (whatever) to access mic EQ?
I'd turn up the sibilants frequencies if I could, based on what people I phone say, and compared to the sound from Apple's ones.
Clarity is more important than "naturalness", especially for those people "at the other end" with hearing difficulties.
seeing lots of comments saying you cant sleep with the xm4s/xm5s. What would be a better alternative for sleep then?
I can sleep just fine, but I did equip them with the smallest eartips in the box.
When needed, I only wear one on the uppermost side of my head, having first selected noise cancellation and then disconnected it from any devices (reduces the chance of getting "dinging" alerts etc). Pillow handles the other half, so no earbud advantage there in any case.
Is the nothing ear 2 video coming about the parametric EQ?
I was really ready to jump on this earbuds but now I'm reconsidering. I mean those flaws you mentioned are annoying. 300 $ is no joke...
I wasted my time n money with 1000xm4 with battery drain issue
Won't ever waste any time thinking of even attempting to buy a new sony product
Contact Sony customer service. Even if out of warranty. I got a free upgrade, because it was a known issue for certain hardware versions. Sony played clean!
they want to get better but they are really fumbling customer solidarity, my XM4s have terrible battery life just a year and some change. like from 6 hours to almost an hour on the left one.
Contact Sony customer service. ! I did, and they free-upgraded me to XM5's. Despite my XM4's being out of warranty (more than a year).
Because a known firmware issue caused battery degradation (down to about 1 hour) in some specific hardware versions of the earbuds.
Quick question, I had the XM4s and had the horrible metallic pinging noise in them, in the process of a warranty return through Sony on them. Does anyone know if they resolved this issue with the XM5s by chance?
I have that same issue!
I know this is an old comment, but I'm going to respond anyway. I also had the WF-XM4s, and I returned them because of the size and that metal pinging sound. I got the XM5s last week and I'm happy to say it resolved these issues.
Lost earbud feature?
Hi - Samsung wf-1000xm5 v/s jabra elite 10, which one do you suggest in terms of Sound quality and noise cancelling ?And price is not a constraint for me!
xm5 has better noise cancelling, second only to Bose QC ultra and 2. The mic sounds robotic but it is the most quiet option out there, i.e., it cancels all ambient noise during a phone call. Both sounds really good. However, it takes a little bit of time to get used to the foam ear tips if it's your first time.
@@KhanhNguyen-gd8fv the foam tips feel a bit scratchy at first, but eventually they smooth out, probably due to getting imbibed with skin oils or sweat or earwax. Meaning, clean them often, but don't be very thorough :D
I think you have just saved me a lot of money. Lol
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I have no idea what "swinging for the fences" means. But then I am very old
Baseball term lol. Swinging for the fences and missing
Essentially trying to achieve something fantastic...and missing.
Hey
Can you review moondrop chu2?
I like my mx5 but there is one big flaw for me with them. I wear them when going to bed. I will remove them before falling to sleep but I don't always have the case at hand. You cannot turn them off without the case and in the morning they have ran out of battery. I don't think the battery will last long in this kind of conditions, drained daily.
Please answer (I'm so fucking confused)
Should i get
xm5
link buds s
OnePlus buds pro 2
Galaxy buds pro 2
OnePlus buds 3
Best value for money?
@evolution5052 look you have to know what you prioritize ...for comfort and sound quality is the linkbuds and the op buds pro 2...galaxy buds pro 2 also for the same but it doesn't fit some people... xm5 has good sound quality and is small in size if that's what you want ...
@@imwhatsnew I want the best comfort and fit ( I have small ears ) and the best value for money
Currently getting
Link buds @ 11k
Xm5 @ 18k-16k
Bose qc 2 @15k
Op pro2 @ 5k
Op buds 3 @ 5k
BS,mine fit and sound fine. You're just nitpicking.
This vs something like the Etymotic ES2? I know they are very different sound signatures but how do they compare in terms of quality? (Pure sound quality).
this if you like fun sound. Ety for studio
Apart from tuning differences, a wired set that is tuned well will likely have more detail overall. Tuning wise, the sony is quite bass boosted and etymotics usually aren't....etymotics tend to be darker sounding in the treble also.
Does those black ones get super visible fingerprints?
On the sides a bit..but its so small it isn't obvious at all..
Appreciate it!@@imwhatsnew
Mic is definitely better. I'm sold
I really believe that Sony are taking the P calling these buds noise cancelling. They simply don’t work very well. Good sound, but for the same money I could buy a great set of wired IEMs, have better sound and probably have better passive noise cancelling than Sonys ANC.
So call quality sucks?
Putting features when the basic control is atrocious proves that they don't value customers and cares more about marketing.
Didnt realise there were levels to the membership!! AirMelons Unite!
1. So, Sony lied about the battery life. Five hours isn't even close to eight hours.
2. The fit doesn't hold the buds firmly during exercise.
3. The buds don't work well for phone calls in noisy environments.
4. I don't like speak-to-chat functions. I had it in my Samsung buds. Like you, it constantly switched on when I didn't want it to.
5. The four-tap volume control is incredibly stupid. Changing volume is the most used function on earbuds.
6. Sony's batteries on the XM5s have reports of losing most of the battery function in a year if you use the earbuds every day.
7. The Bose QC II Ultra earbuds have superior ANC
8. The Bose QC II transparency mode is better than the Sony XM5s.
9. I am betting that the immersive mode on the Bose QC II outperforms the Sony XM5s by quite a margin.
How can there be reportes of them losing power after a year when they haven't been out for a year?
The four-tap is unbelievable self-sabotage. Truly weird. Can't even reassign it to "spare" fewer-taps. But at least after those first four taps, if you continue tapping at a fast rate, it continues to change with each of those single additional taps. Mad though!
@@DavidEsp1 Wow, that would just drive me crazy. I own the Bose QC II Ultra earbuds and I have to tap three times to repeat a song - and I really don't like tapping my earbuds that much. Fortunately, with the Bose, you can lightly tap the earbuds so it doesn't hurt your ears so much.
The Bose QC Ultra earbuds would be the perfect earbuds if they had multipoint connection. That is their only major weakness.
Nice
How do you activate noice canceling ? This one don’t talk
Tap on the left earbud ?
number 4 you could hear a voice now I just hear a sound. There are two different sounds now and I don’t know which one is the noice canceling
you might be able to change that in the settings..
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@@imwhatsnew where? I’m sorry I tried to figure it out. Do you know any videos
@@charlie19892009 ok so wear the earphones and tap on the headphones app.(sonys accompanying app) go to the sound section . Now tap your left earbud once and see the mode change in the app...this way you can figure out which sound means what.
Anyone else having charging issue's with these xm5 buds or is it just me
Mic sounds far away
And design of these compared to xm4 are ugly af. Xm4 matt finish is better than xm5 and xm4 desing is way better
1:43 Not you saying "this is huge" just after "earbuds themselves are significantly smaller" lmao
Haha
Hey, I love your reviews and all. But I definitely think you should focus more on the upcoming presidential elections.
Lol
LOL you must be getting paid by Sony to say they're the best sounding earbuds you've ever tried SMH team Sennheiser
I have..take a look at my channel.
TOZO makes better products than these
No they don't
Sony wireless earbud has leave a super bad taste to experience. Since the mark version xm 3 till 5, their noise cancelling, transparency, sound and extra features + Price tag are just marketing bullshit 🙄 😑. Sony need to have a much better product quality control and product design on their ear fit. Sony also need to fix their Bluetooth connection dropping out all the time
WF-1000XM5 have shitest noise cancelation xm4 destory xm5 ion every aspect if somone tell me xm5 have good noice cancelation simply lies/..