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Been here since Brian easy was cleaning out parts on dirty garage floors in Japan, happy you're still doing RUclips and happy new year! Cheers to it being better than the last!
As someone that's worked for both HP and Dell as a field engineer... they sent us out with the cheapest of the cheap thermal paste. I expensed decent paste and threw that crap in trash.
Happy 2022. Everyone! That case is some serious eye candy for sure. Love the content my dude! Brian I must say you looking healthy Got that Tech YES glow.
2:15 OEM builders usually opt for thermal paste with long term stability over maximum performance and these pastes tend to be very "dry" compared to more runny high performance pastes. OEM paste is supposed to work more or less the same the day it is bought than it is 5 years later. High performance paste can perform better short term, but they are more susceptible to pump out effect and with something like Kryonaut you should be expecting a yearly repaste, so they are not ideal for machines that go to customers that will probably never even look inside the case.
I would make sure who ever you sell this to you show them how to undervolt the CPU because if their BIOS ever resets they may not realize it needs to be undervolted and think the PC is crapping out
@Swim Fan well tbh as he showed in the video this PC needs this tweak or the cpu speed goes nuts.. but he does need to tell and show who ever he sells this PC to how to set the setting in case the bios ever resets
i'm amazed that the Dell motherboard did not explode.. Dell is notorious for using the cheapest parts and relying in supplier Quality.. Trust me I used to Audit them... At Dell....
No surprise there. Dell has been penny pinching in every way known to man since the early 2010's. Do not buy anything from them and expect it to be built up to a standard. It's always DOWN when it comes from them :)
Every company is cutting corners and for the price this prebuilt is not bad. This is a game computer and gaming it does pretty well. No need for i9 if you just want to game, and for a serious work get components yourself.
Maybe a better CPU to use is the i7-11700K. According to official specs it should run half the memory bandwidth of the i9 part, but on most motherboards it runs the memory at full speed so then the difference is only 300MHz turbo frequency. Would be interesting to see if that works on the R12 as well since you get nearly identical performance to the i9 part.
I put a 11700k in my r12 I got the machine for peanuts so I'm happy with the machine but I wouldn't put high end parts in this machine you can't custom oc the ram, and the ram is stuck in gear ratio 2 so there's high latency unless you're playing at 4k
@@CorbettK42 Thats actually useful info. If the RAM is stuck in gear 2 then you will see a improvement when using a I9 chip. If it had been able to use gear 1 on the i7 it would have been very close on performance probably.
@@BertM3 the i7 11700k is always a better choice then i9 11th gen the price difference is astronomical and there's not much performance difference I got the i7 for $250
Happy new year, it's about 8 minutes away as I type here. Funny how undervolting actually cools it down and allows it to run faster. Too bad the boards so limited but you can keep the video card and put something different in it and sell off or sell as is with all the upgrades and make more profit upfront. If I really wanted a 3080 I'd probably keep it and sell off with lesser card.
@Swim Fan Well it does make sense if you turn down the voltage it won't be driven as hard and run cooler, which could lead to being able to speed up the clock speed a bit but most wouldn't think of it like that. People trying to get maximum performance were/are over volting things trying to drive it harder and get more speed but then they need better cooling and have to be careful or they damage the chips eventually or just fry it though many now have all kinds of protection circuits built in to save them selves if things go sideways. I care a lot more about stability than absolute speed, plus trying not to waste power and drive up my electric bill. I did ohms law as a freshman in high school but don't really remember all of it now but the formulas were good for figuring out what you had or needed. I started fixing TVs to make side money and that for me was more understanding how the circuits worked so I could troubleshoot and repair them. After a while you knew what generally fails and what the malfunction looks like so you could fix it quickly and have typical parts needed on hand. Nobody fixes things on a component level any, just replace the whole board.
I would never add an hdd in there as long as there were thermal issues. Adding another heat source when you can actually have pretty much the same transfer rate outside the case. Better use another sata ssd
right. I have a less than $1500 pc, but not at all would I consider getting some hdd. I have 2tb and use it, but if I would buy now it would be ssd. There are literally 1tb m.2 ssd's for $80, and could stick 4 together in a pcie adapter with cooling. Or just sata ssds.
HDD is not a big thermal source . They are around or under 10W when they are working, and they are not working all the time. i9 could be problematic , it has TDP of 125W while i5 had 65W.
One trick you can try when power limited/thermally bound specifically for gaming would be to turn off hyperthreading, it'll lower your power draw and lower the vcore requirement at a given frequency
No bueno on a gaming rig. Gamers Nexus has shown several times that disabling HT (on either AMD or Intel) negatively effects 1% and 0.1% lows and causes frametime spikes that you won't experience with HT enabled.
@@erikhendrickson59 I have done my own testing, and it improves 1% and 0.1% lows. The only reason it should hurt frametimes is if the game is incorrectly configured to use the previous amount of threads or its one of the very few games that scales with more than 8 threads. for todays games it will help for the majority of cpu bound (mainly 1t) games on Intel processors
If flipping the dell with i9 and 3080ti wont work for the asking price you want you can still switch parts around and turn the dell into a budget gaming pc and use the RTX3080ti and i9 in a different case with a different board. Knowing ur chanses that wont have to happen :)
Literally thought that thing was going to catch fire the moment you turned it on with the i9 installed! Still in awe that a cheesy 120mm DELL AIO is actually cooling an i9-11900K!
Personally id sell the 3080ti, once you get the majority of your money back id just chuck another lower end gpu in and then flip the alienware like that! Anyways Happy New Year Brian 🧨🎇🎆🎉
I don't understand how under voting can increase performance, I'm old school, the more gas or power you shove in the faster or more performance you get? Is it that the under volting reduces temps, allowing CPU to perform better?
Alienware has always been garbage. Back in the 90s, they would send you overclocked systems without any sort of stability testing, and the build quality was typically mediocre even back then.
Damn, that stock performance was horrible, it was actually below where a stock 3700x falls, my 5800x with an undervolt at 4.6ghz does almost 16k in r23 though :) so the 11900k really was a waste of sand as gamers Nexus stated.
@@aleksazunjic9672 huh? 11900k not made for gaming? Then what? It's not got alot of cores. It's got the same amount of cores as my 2012 workstation Xeon..
@@mortenee88 You said it yourself, it is a workstation/server processor , If you buy this for gaming, chances are you would be using barely 25% of its capabilities.
@@aleksazunjic9672 I mean who in their right mind runs only 8 cores with dual channel ram and no extra pcie lanes for a workstation? It gets beaten by the 10850k/10900k at that anyway if you want to run workstation on z490/590. Do you somehow think I do not know what I'm talking about or what? 11900k is not workstation, it was made to crush AMD in gaming performance and it failed hard. It's a power hog with shit performance to match it's efficiency.
@@aleksazunjic9672 my 12 core r 3900x performs better than this for both gaming and for workstation stuff. however neither of them are work station processors. they are consumer processors.
I had an Alienware Threadripper system traded in for one of my gaming systems and had all the same headaches; thankfully, just like you did, a RAM upgrade, some Ryzen Master tuning, hours in the bios, RAM upgrade (the included stuff was 16gb of 2133MHz, upgraded to 64GB of 3200MHz) and even *the exact same corsair fan added to the 120mm AIO*, I was able to get the TR 1950X performing similar to a stock one on a decent motherboard. +rep great vid and really relatable
Hardware Unboxed did a vid just on that issue, cheap 500 series mobos and how bad they hurt performance. I myself never even thought of this issue before seeing some of these vids...
I’m glad I returned my 11700k for the 12700k. I’m getting 23,000+ out of box with the gigabyte aero g. She doesn’t break 70° after 10 minutes and it’s running at 200w with 4.8ghz sustained turbo.
Great video Bryan that Alienware motherboard is kinda bad for whst u payed but u made it work i just wouldn’t recommend anyone upgrading to a 11900k in this system cause of the motherboard unless u know what your are doing!
Love the content always love to see your pleasant and happy nature! Kudos for pointing out the spammers - Google REALLY needs to sort this should not be up to you creators!!! Happy New Year!
In Brian's position, I wouldn't try to flip it - but instead, mod the hell out of it to make it into a one of a kind franken-PC... so it looks 'Star Trek' in the front, and 'Star Wars' or 'Firefly/Serenity' in the back.
Hi Brian! I have the R12 as well. Ended up replacing all the fans and also added a fourth fan at the front after removing the hard drive. It seemed to help alot. Do you have a video or about how to undervolt it to get a better benchmark score? I am not as tech savvy. Thanks!
I picked up mine in spring from Dell, with an RTX 3060ti, 32gb of RAM with the same proc as you started with, a 500gb NVMe, liquid cooling, an Alienware 7.1 headphone set and a 128gb Verbatim usb stick for $1780 CDN, taxes included. It's been great. And none of the heat issues I've heard about. The extra 16gb of memory (being at 32gb) is pretty pointless.
Now i dont know about the Dell 3080TI, BUT the Dell 3080 in these things only has a cooler capable of ~220-250w(my 5700XT has better cooling than the Alienware machines we got for our espots team). Fortunately, they basically use the same cooler for the 6800XT. 225w is alot closer to the TBP of the 6800XT than the 3080, and while they're both heavily throttled, its not as bad on the 6800xt. If i recall correctly, the team prefers the machines with 6800xt, but i dont know if that is because of performance or not, IDK i just order/service the hardware. Under volting is basically required on both cards, and maybe they like the radeon versions because they have a 1 click undervolting option
Should note, that if you're desperate to order an alienware system, and you're going with an AMD CPU, do NOT get air cooling, even with a 65w processor the thing doesnt work because it is basically an intel stock cooler, with an aluminium puck to adapt it to AM4, and that extra ~8mm of aluminum makes a big difference
I have 2 systems. One with a 5600x/b550 and 11400f/b560. Running at stock clocks can I undervolt these at the bios level and hopefully still maintain all performance?
my Ryzen 7 3700x in r23 Cinebench got score of 11552 is that good ? running on standard settings so many scammers about hey good one Bryan Hope you have good New Year nice build in that you did to look so nice
Hey Brain, Do you know what boards/bios the dell ryzen systems use? Would it be at all possible for me to grab a 5800x + 3060ti/3070 dell combo .... and swap my 3600 into the dell system ? ...Also, would a asus strix gtx 1080 fit into it (physically) *Thinking of buying a dell system, to rob the gpu and cpu from it.
i like dell on the tower. And also with a little work the can add a 240mm rad since if i see the video, clearly it can be done. For me under-volting is just a excuse to use the computer at the expense of unde-power cooling parts and air flow. sadly but is a reality. nice work. I do think oems can improve these and more coming from dell. the bad thermal paste as video is just the result of the low cooling. same can be see on systems that have 2 years with same properties since the thermalpaste just get dry of the abuse heat exchange. same happens on laptops the solution is just to low or to little. is a nice system and yes. the 28C is like here. and i think new thermal test roof as to increase. mose are on 20c and 25C ambient. btw happy 2022
2:12 Yeah, I got home after 5 weeks abroad and all of a sudden my computer is having these random glitches, and turns out it's the shitty thermal paste, so I'm glad it's not just me.
I think maybe the best play is to move the 3080Ti (And maybe the PSU if it is standard) to a new build with a normal MB and Case. Leave the 11400F in the Aurora, pop in a mid tier GPU and sell that to recoup a good portion of what you paid. Then you effectively got a really cheap 3080Ti for a high end build that would prob go for a lot more profit than this crippled dell
I have an r12 and I added a 11700k I got for $250 I'm going to have to mess around with undervolting, I'm really disappointed there's no way to custom oc the ram do you know what is the highest xmp it will take?
Can you make a video on overclocking Ryzen 7 on B350 (ex: 1700X, Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3)? No decent overclock I do is stable, except RAM to advertized speeds.
Hi, I have been upgrade my computer, homemade now amd 3900x and same gtx 980 ti, can beat that Dell computer without of need of tweaking, might be overvoltage I guess. on Cine R23 I get 18017, thought I was impressed by it just by changing CPU (and the heatsink to AIO). Tweaking soon.
I didn't have the spare money to float an Alienware system, But I was considering buying the Ryzen5800x/3070 system dell had, $2k ish after discount + coupon code.. And then swap cpu/gpu in my current system (Ryzen 3600 / gtx1080) I'm pretty positive I could have sold that dell alienware system (now with a 3600/1080 for $1500AUD or so, and get a cpu gpu upgrade for $500odd. Plus I was worried a asus strix 1080 might not have worked, both physical size and psu connections.
I wonder if buying the i7 12th gen models with either a 3070 or 3080 is a solid choice since it's basically much more of a value buy compared to building one. I would've want to build an ITX style gaming rig but I'm unsure whether I should just do so or get this instead especially in this current market. Tryna weigh in sum options atm.
Like a few others said, I was wondering why you didn't go with the Intel Core i7-11700KF? Since this is a proprietary motherboard, I think it would work better with the i7 processor? You did so much specialized tuning, I hope that whoever buys the system never has a bios reset, because they my never understand how to tune it to get it back to the performance levels you sold it to them at?
@@GamerBoy705_yt I understand that, but right now he has an i9 that is performing below standards and he had to do some serious tuning to it to get it that way. I just wonder about the long term stability of the system? I just wonder would an i7 perform closer to the norms without all that special tuning? This is a special concern if he sells the computer to someone that doesn't want to deal with the special tuning if the system ever does a bios reset? Long story short a person could end up with a system that is i9 in name only?
Bought an 11700k for one to replace an 11400F and it’s been a pain. Came across this video searching for answers. Best I could get in cinebench was 103xx when it’s supposed to be 15000. I’m just going to put the 11400F back and sell it. Didn’t know these expensive systems used that cheap of a motherboard….
It might look like an Alienware, but deep down its still a Dell. I aint gonna jump through any hoops to make an Alienware system half decent, for what you're paying it should come out the box getting the most out of whatever is plugged into it. $2000k+ to play 1080p games isn't good value for money at all IMHO, especially with single channel DDR4. (Let alone throwing another $1000k on better hardware to see it throttled by a crap Dell motherboard!)
Man, you really did a lot of work to find the flaws in the Dell stuff. That's why I maintain that I'd just yoink the 3080ti out of the Alienware in to a better build, slap a different GPU in to it, and call it a day.
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Should have put a 12600k in it.
As always i enjoy watching your video. May you have a fun, safe and prosperous 2022. Happy New Year Tech Yes Man!!!
Ya tech is from Australia ant the whats app scammers are from USA
@@dishantpatidar2075 One Of Those Was From Canada Too xD
Been here since Brian easy was cleaning out parts on dirty garage floors in Japan, happy you're still doing RUclips and happy new year! Cheers to it being better than the last!
Thanks brother! We got a whole lot more coming this year.
I came as soon as I seen "Tech Yes City uploaded a video" because we know it's gonna be lit vid
baller, happy new years!
As someone that's worked for both HP and Dell as a field engineer... they sent us out with the cheapest of the cheap thermal paste. I expensed decent paste and threw that crap in trash.
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All the best for 2022 mate - have loved your content since subbing way back in 2019. :)
Happy New Year from Hull UK, great channel and wish you well in 2022👍
Happy 2022. Everyone!
That case is some serious eye candy for sure.
Love the content my dude!
Brian I must say you looking healthy
Got that Tech YES glow.
2:15 OEM builders usually opt for thermal paste with long term stability over maximum performance and these pastes tend to be very "dry" compared to more runny high performance pastes. OEM paste is supposed to work more or less the same the day it is bought than it is 5 years later. High performance paste can perform better short term, but they are more susceptible to pump out effect and with something like Kryonaut you should be expecting a yearly repaste, so they are not ideal for machines that go to customers that will probably never even look inside the case.
Hell no... In my computer IT experience, OEM thermal paste is always the cheapest of the cheap... barely qualifying
This is a lot of bullshit, and you know it.
@@Gungrave123 Saulty Maud just running off at that mouth about a lot of incorrect bullshit.
I would make sure who ever you sell this to you show them how to undervolt the CPU because if their BIOS ever resets they may not realize it needs to be undervolted and think the PC is crapping out
@Swim Fan well tbh as he showed in the video this PC needs this tweak or the cpu speed goes nuts.. but he does need to tell and show who ever he sells this PC to how to set the setting in case the bios ever resets
i'm amazed that the Dell motherboard did not explode.. Dell is notorious for using the cheapest parts and relying in supplier Quality.. Trust me I used to Audit them... At Dell....
No surprise there. Dell has been penny pinching in every way known to man since the early 2010's.
Do not buy anything from them and expect it to be built up to a standard. It's always DOWN when it comes from them :)
Every company is cutting corners and for the price this prebuilt is not bad. This is a game computer and gaming it does pretty well. No need for i9 if you just want to game, and for a serious work get components yourself.
@@aleksazunjic9672 Did you look at the price tag?
@@Chriva what's the price tag?
@@Chriva Yes, relatively cheap considering going rate for 3080Ti currently.
Happy New Year Brian. I can't help but be reminded of the Dyson Air Purifier with that Alienware case.
Maybe a better CPU to use is the i7-11700K. According to official specs it should run half the memory bandwidth of the i9 part, but on most motherboards it runs the memory at full speed so then the difference is only 300MHz turbo frequency. Would be interesting to see if that works on the R12 as well since you get nearly identical performance to the i9 part.
@Saad it’s the same socket, all 11th generation CPUs use FCLGA1200.
I put a 11700k in my r12 I got the machine for peanuts so I'm happy with the machine but I wouldn't put high end parts in this machine you can't custom oc the ram, and the ram is stuck in gear ratio 2 so there's high latency unless you're playing at 4k
@@CorbettK42 Thats actually useful info. If the RAM is stuck in gear 2 then you will see a improvement when using a I9 chip. If it had been able to use gear 1 on the i7 it would have been very close on performance probably.
@@BertM3 it's stuck in gear 2 regardless of the CPU it's actually a problem with a lot of 11th gen OEM PC's
@@BertM3 the i7 11700k is always a better choice then i9 11th gen the price difference is astronomical and there's not much performance difference I got the i7 for $250
Happy new year, it's about 8 minutes away as I type here. Funny how undervolting actually cools it down and allows it to run faster. Too bad the boards so limited but you can keep the video card and put something different in it and sell off or sell as is with all the upgrades and make more profit upfront. If I really wanted a 3080 I'd probably keep it and sell off with lesser card.
@Swim Fan Well it does make sense if you turn down the voltage it won't be driven as hard and run cooler, which could lead to being able to speed up the clock speed a bit but most wouldn't think of it like that. People trying to get maximum performance were/are over volting things trying to drive it harder and get more speed but then they need better cooling and have to be careful or they damage the chips eventually or just fry it though many now have all kinds of protection circuits built in to save them selves if things go sideways. I care a lot more about stability than absolute speed, plus trying not to waste power and drive up my electric bill. I did ohms law as a freshman in high school but don't really remember all of it now but the formulas were good for figuring out what you had or needed. I started fixing TVs to make side money and that for me was more understanding how the circuits worked so I could troubleshoot and repair them. After a while you knew what generally fails and what the malfunction looks like so you could fix it quickly and have typical parts needed on hand. Nobody fixes things on a component level any, just replace the whole board.
13:53 onwards. Anyone else noticed the white light flashes coming from inside the case(above the psu) occasionally?
Yeah just above the cables.. a short or something?
It's the aliens coming!
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I would never add an hdd in there as long as there were thermal issues. Adding another heat source when you can actually have pretty much the same transfer rate outside the case. Better use another sata ssd
I agree. Wtf would you use a HDD on a top of the line gaming rig like that?!
right. I have a less than $1500 pc, but not at all would I consider getting some hdd.
I have 2tb and use it, but if I would buy now it would be ssd.
There are literally 1tb m.2 ssd's for $80, and could stick 4 together in a pcie adapter with cooling.
Or just sata ssds.
Especially at that price a 4k PC with a HDD no ....no
@@WASD-MVME i mean for some use I'd understand hdd, if want say 8, 10 or 20tb storage. But for 4? not really at that price
HDD is not a big thermal source . They are around or under 10W when they are working, and they are not working all the time. i9 could be problematic , it has TDP of 125W while i5 had 65W.
1st vid of the year!!! Let’s go 2022!
One trick you can try when power limited/thermally bound specifically for gaming would be to turn off hyperthreading, it'll lower your power draw and lower the vcore requirement at a given frequency
No bueno on a gaming rig. Gamers Nexus has shown several times that disabling HT (on either AMD or Intel) negatively effects 1% and 0.1% lows and causes frametime spikes that you won't experience with HT enabled.
@@erikhendrickson59 I have done my own testing, and it improves 1% and 0.1% lows. The only reason it should hurt frametimes is if the game is incorrectly configured to use the previous amount of threads or its one of the very few games that scales with more than 8 threads. for todays games it will help for the majority of cpu bound (mainly 1t) games on Intel processors
@@erikhendrickson59 it does, on 4c/8t cpus. For some games maybe with 6c/12t cpus. But higher than that, mostly not, even imrpoves.
you have the best video of the year so far . happy new year. lol.. all joking aside.. Thanks for 2021 and looking forward to this years vids
If flipping the dell with i9 and 3080ti wont work for the asking price you want you can still switch parts around and turn the dell into a budget gaming pc and use the RTX3080ti and i9 in a different case with a different board. Knowing ur chanses that wont have to happen :)
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Literally thought that thing was going to catch fire the moment you turned it on with the i9 installed! Still in awe that a cheesy 120mm DELL AIO is actually cooling an i9-11900K!
@Steve King I would rather kick myself in the balls than visit dells website let alone buy anything from them thats new...
Hope you had an awesome New Year Brian! Can't wait to see all the awesome stuff you make this year! 👊
Great video Brian! Happy new year
Happy new year!! Great year end video!!
I love your channel and your passionate work. Happy New Year King of tech yes city.
I got 17294 with my 12600k in Cinebench R23, nice to see my score is right inline. Great video, I was expecting some insane temps with that setup.
Personally id sell the 3080ti, once you get the majority of your money back id just chuck another lower end gpu in and then flip the alienware like that!
Anyways Happy New Year Brian 🧨🎇🎆🎉
Happy new year! 😀
I don't understand how under voting can increase performance, I'm old school, the more gas or power you shove in the faster or more performance you get?
Is it that the under volting reduces temps, allowing CPU to perform better?
Yes
Happy new year!
Happy New Year!
It’s a shame what they did to Alienware.
Hasn't been good for years...
even when it was decent it was really overpriced, so honestly it never was any good
Alienware has always been garbage. Back in the 90s, they would send you overclocked systems without any sort of stability testing, and the build quality was typically mediocre even back then.
Alienware has always been a gaming brand, not a server/workstation brand. For a gaming computer configuration with i5 , this is adequate.
Alienware was always for normie rich consoomer kids who had zero knowledge of computers.
Damn, that stock performance was horrible, it was actually below where a stock 3700x falls, my 5800x with an undervolt at 4.6ghz does almost 16k in r23 though :) so the 11900k really was a waste of sand as gamers Nexus stated.
It is not waste of sand, just it is not meant for gaming. For serious CPU work you need serious motherboard and different case .
@@aleksazunjic9672 huh? 11900k not made for gaming? Then what? It's not got alot of cores. It's got the same amount of cores as my 2012 workstation Xeon..
@@mortenee88 You said it yourself, it is a workstation/server processor , If you buy this for gaming, chances are you would be using barely 25% of its capabilities.
@@aleksazunjic9672 I mean who in their right mind runs only 8 cores with dual channel ram and no extra pcie lanes for a workstation? It gets beaten by the 10850k/10900k at that anyway if you want to run workstation on z490/590. Do you somehow think I do not know what I'm talking about or what? 11900k is not workstation, it was made to crush AMD in gaming performance and it failed hard. It's a power hog with shit performance to match it's efficiency.
@@aleksazunjic9672 my 12 core r 3900x performs better than this for both gaming and for workstation stuff. however neither of them are work station processors. they are consumer processors.
hi , happy to see it finished your probably relieved from it how it looked before a right mess 🤣
I had an Alienware Threadripper system traded in for one of my gaming systems and had all the same headaches; thankfully, just like you did, a RAM upgrade, some Ryzen Master tuning, hours in the bios, RAM upgrade (the included stuff was 16gb of 2133MHz, upgraded to 64GB of 3200MHz) and even *the exact same corsair fan added to the 120mm AIO*, I was able to get the TR 1950X performing similar to a stock one on a decent motherboard. +rep great vid and really relatable
Threadripper headaches gee haven't heard that before
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4GHz all core on that i9 is abysmal. Wonder how that compares to a bottom of the barrel H510 motherboard.
Wouldn't be too far off lol
Hardware Unboxed did a vid just on that issue, cheap 500 series mobos and how bad they hurt performance. I myself never even thought of this issue before seeing some of these vids...
HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
I’m glad I returned my 11700k for the 12700k. I’m getting 23,000+ out of box with the gigabyte aero g. She doesn’t break 70° after 10 minutes and it’s running at 200w with 4.8ghz sustained turbo.
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@@rcplaneabbott1379 nah, I’m all set dude..
@@mrwashur1991 Are you using a 360mm AIO
Great video Bryan that Alienware motherboard is kinda bad for whst u payed but u made it work i just wouldn’t recommend anyone upgrading to a 11900k in this system cause of the motherboard unless u know what your are doing!
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@@rcplaneabbott1379 WTF
Happy new year sir keep it up 😘😘
Love the content always love to see your pleasant and happy nature! Kudos for pointing out the spammers - Google REALLY needs to sort this should not be up to you creators!!! Happy New Year!
Output of a fan going against the output of another fan makes sense
It's the first time i ever saw someone undervolt to get higher cpu performance lol. Also happy new year everyone 🥰
That is crazy man, i have 11700k and my Cinebench R23 is never below 15,063. Love your videos man, keep it up!
11700f here and mine was 9023
Honest and comprehensive coverage. Thank you !
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The blue plastic tray you put the HDD in is the same as the one from my Core 2 Quad Optiplex 760 lol, I guess if it ain't broke don't fix it
Great video as always you should have a lot more subs
In Brian's position, I wouldn't try to flip it - but instead, mod the hell out of it to make it into a one of a kind franken-PC... so it looks 'Star Trek' in the front, and 'Star Wars' or 'Firefly/Serenity' in the back.
Hi Brian!
I have the R12 as well. Ended up replacing all the fans and also added a fourth fan at the front after removing the hard drive. It seemed to help alot.
Do you have a video or about how to undervolt it to get a better benchmark score? I am not as tech savvy.
Thanks!
Happy newyears b-dawg
TYC is the undervolt master!
Happy new year
I picked up mine in spring from Dell, with an RTX 3060ti, 32gb of RAM with the same proc as you started with, a 500gb NVMe, liquid cooling, an Alienware 7.1 headphone set and a 128gb Verbatim usb stick for $1780 CDN, taxes included. It's been great. And none of the heat issues I've heard about.
The extra 16gb of memory (being at 32gb) is pretty pointless.
another sweet system polished by tech yes keep it up!
there is a new bios to 1.1.8 which could be worth updating. Also I have removed the hdd and placed an additional fan in this slot
2:30 whats to say that thing been sitting at a warehouse or something for less than 9 months FULLY assembled?
Whats that song that starts at 1:45? i couldnt stop bopping my head to it
When it comes to stewed prunes, are three enough or is four too many?
Now i dont know about the Dell 3080TI, BUT the Dell 3080 in these things only has a cooler capable of ~220-250w(my 5700XT has better cooling than the Alienware machines we got for our espots team).
Fortunately, they basically use the same cooler for the 6800XT. 225w is alot closer to the TBP of the 6800XT than the 3080, and while they're both heavily throttled, its not as bad on the 6800xt. If i recall correctly, the team prefers the machines with 6800xt, but i dont know if that is because of performance or not, IDK i just order/service the hardware.
Under volting is basically required on both cards, and maybe they like the radeon versions because they have a 1 click undervolting option
Should note, that if you're desperate to order an alienware system, and you're going with an AMD CPU, do NOT get air cooling, even with a 65w processor the thing doesnt work because it is basically an intel stock cooler, with an aluminium puck to adapt it to AM4, and that extra ~8mm of aluminum makes a big difference
my r13 is coming with a 12500 because Alienware didn't have the i7 in stock. is it the same setup to upgrade my system?
I have 2 systems. One with a 5600x/b550 and 11400f/b560. Running at stock clocks can I undervolt these at the bios level and hopefully still maintain all performance?
my Ryzen 7 3700x in r23 Cinebench got score of 11552 is that good ? running on standard settings so many scammers about hey good one Bryan Hope you have good New Year nice build in that you did to look so nice
Wait, let me grab some popcorn...
Hey Brain,
Do you know what boards/bios the dell ryzen systems use?
Would it be at all possible for me to grab a 5800x + 3060ti/3070 dell combo .... and swap my 3600 into the dell system ?
...Also, would a asus strix gtx 1080 fit into it (physically)
*Thinking of buying a dell system, to rob the gpu and cpu from it.
Great video! Thx.
i like dell on the tower. And also with a little work the can add a 240mm rad since if i see the video, clearly it can be done. For me under-volting is just a excuse to use the computer at the expense of unde-power cooling parts and air flow. sadly but is a reality. nice work. I do think oems can improve these and more coming from dell. the bad thermal paste as video is just the result of the low cooling. same can be see on systems that have 2 years with same properties since the thermalpaste just get dry of the abuse heat exchange. same happens on laptops the solution is just to low or to little. is a nice system and yes. the 28C is like here. and i think new thermal test roof as to increase. mose are on 20c and 25C ambient. btw happy 2022
2:30am morning vibes
2:12 Yeah, I got home after 5 weeks abroad and all of a sudden my computer is having these random glitches, and turns out it's the shitty thermal paste, so I'm glad it's not just me.
happy new year
I think maybe the best play is to move the 3080Ti (And maybe the PSU if it is standard) to a new build with a normal MB and Case. Leave the 11400F in the Aurora, pop in a mid tier GPU and sell that to recoup a good portion of what you paid. Then you effectively got a really cheap 3080Ti for a high end build that would prob go for a lot more profit than this crippled dell
1:18 for me the cheapest USED price for that is 62 euro.... i WISH is was even 30e bruh prices in Ireland are soooo bad.
I have an r12 and I added a 11700k I got for $250 I'm going to have to mess around with undervolting, I'm really disappointed there's no way to custom oc the ram do you know what is the highest xmp it will take?
Am glad I found this video :D ...do you peeps think a Core i9-11900 es qvye 8-core 16 thread 65W would work in the r12?
Can you make a video on overclocking Ryzen 7 on B350 (ex: 1700X, Gigabyte GA-AB350M-Gaming 3)? No decent overclock I do is stable, except RAM to advertized speeds.
Good evening, could you check if it works better with a 10900k/10700k?
I have an R12, it has the i7 1100KF, do you think it's necessary to upgrade to i9? Is it even possible? From this video, looks more than possible.
What graphics settings were you on with fortnite to get that kind of fps?
Hi, I have been upgrade my computer, homemade now amd 3900x and same gtx 980 ti, can beat that Dell computer without of need of tweaking, might be overvoltage I guess. on Cine R23 I get 18017, thought I was impressed by it just by changing CPU (and the heatsink to AIO). Tweaking soon.
I didn't have the spare money to float an Alienware system, But I was considering buying the Ryzen5800x/3070 system dell had, $2k ish after discount + coupon code..
And then swap cpu/gpu in my current system (Ryzen 3600 / gtx1080)
I'm pretty positive I could have sold that dell alienware system (now with a 3600/1080 for $1500AUD or so, and get a cpu gpu upgrade for $500odd.
Plus I was worried a asus strix 1080 might not have worked, both physical size and psu connections.
I wonder if buying the i7 12th gen models with either a 3070 or 3080 is a solid choice since it's basically much more of a value buy compared to building one. I would've want to build an ITX style gaming rig but I'm unsure whether I should just do so or get this instead especially in this current market. Tryna weigh in sum options atm.
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this is like a rock song ,......under and over it",.......but u need the cooler from aurora ,under the case?for the GPU?
happy new year, let's hope cheap gpu's fro 2022
Like a few others said, I was wondering why you didn't go with the Intel Core i7-11700KF? Since this is a proprietary motherboard, I think it would work better with the i7 processor? You did so much specialized tuning, I hope that whoever buys the system never has a bios reset, because they my never understand how to tune it to get it back to the performance levels you sold it to them at?
He said he wanted to flip it, and so, the "i9" branding could be a big help.
@@GamerBoy705_yt I understand that, but right now he has an i9 that is performing below standards and he had to do some serious tuning to it to get it that way. I just wonder about the long term stability of the system? I just wonder would an i7 perform closer to the norms without all that special tuning? This is a special concern if he sells the computer to someone that doesn't want to deal with the special tuning if the system ever does a bios reset? Long story short a person could end up with a system that is i9 in name only?
Bought an 11700k for one to replace an 11400F and it’s been a pain. Came across this video searching for answers. Best I could get in cinebench was 103xx when it’s supposed to be 15000. I’m just going to put the 11400F back and sell it. Didn’t know these expensive systems used that cheap of a motherboard….
Isn’t that a proprietary mobo? Didn’t think and i9 could use an i5 mobo? Did you leave something out or am i missing something the crocodile Dundee?
But can you replace the motherboard itself?
What PSU is in the PC?
Overclocking is stuck on disabled for my r12.
It might look like an Alienware, but deep down its still a Dell. I aint gonna jump through any hoops to make an Alienware system half decent, for what you're paying it should come out the box getting the most out of whatever is plugged into it. $2000k+ to play 1080p games isn't good value for money at all IMHO, especially with single channel DDR4. (Let alone throwing another $1000k on better hardware to see it throttled by a crap Dell motherboard!)
That playstation 1 cup is 🔥
I almost bought the N64 version of that tea mug but I couldn't work out how I was supposed to hold it.
The raid is OOOONNNNN. The disks are going to be written twice for each operation.
3:23 i think you forgot to enable resizable bar. Not unless you didnt want to.
It would look good in any kitchen but what's the coffee like?
Happy new years man :) Still waiting for the giveaway winner announcement
You got a link where I can grab a 11900k for $500 aud?
can u make video about swap case alienware r12 by using all it component?
it will be great video
Man, you really did a lot of work to find the flaws in the Dell stuff. That's why I maintain that I'd just yoink the 3080ti out of the Alienware in to a better build, slap a different GPU in to it, and call it a day.
How's the performance?