Looking at the folks around the Z28 as the auction started...sure sign the market demographic is aging out & a price drop will start hitting within a decade. Model A's, Model T's, brass-era, pre-war cars, post-war cars, and '50's into mid-'60's cars are a great example of this.
If you pay today's prices you may or will lose you shirt. It's coming. These cars are becoming dated out. Young generations don't have knowledge or interest nor the money.
Good observation. I recall when the big televised auctions started to barely get or not sell beautiful 30sPackards and 40s cars because more was spent on restoring them and the guys they appeal to aren't around. Some of these cars may get restored. Some of themsome old guy will just take it home because he wanted one like he had and he'll just keep it until he dies
@johnboy007 Maybe the car was special? Maybe the big block engine in the car was a special rare one? M22 orig trans? Hopefully the guys that were bidding on it knew what they were doing. Seems pretty ridiculous to me however, to pay that much.
Another interesting video. Obviously, prices are what the market (at the time) will pay. However, imo these seem uniformly high even in 2024. Note: I collect and have won many vehicles on BaT, Cars&Bids and a few at in-person auctions the latter before 2020. Including one RS from this era. ‘Projects’ in general and esp where much of the hard stuff is left to do typically don’t get premiums like this. Maybe exotic Italians or 911s or XKEs - even then most buyers want them left w/“easy” stuff. But, these bidders here at this auction seem to want big Chevy projects and/or got wrapped up in the bidding. It happens. 😊
Iagree with the points you made. I was a bit shocked at the first car. Thanks for the sharing your thoughts on these. Definitely a unique situation with these cars.
All 67-69 Z28'S are all 4sp manuals No auto's !!! &302 small blocks only. That car is Not A Z28 !!!,The prices are Way to hi !!! ,Typical rip off auction atmosphere !!! BOY people are falling In to the auction scam !!!
I like them too. The thing I didn't realize was some of the Krate bikes didn't sell well originally and some were only made for one year. Thanks for the comment!
When I was a kid, my dad had a Ford pinto with a 351 Cleveland in it. Had wheelie bar, I was 17, he would never let me drive it, even told him he could be with me, still wouldn't let me
Seems to me you could find one in decent shape already painted and semi restored and running strong for nearly the same money. Crazy prices, 15-20 yrs ago those cars in that condition would be 2,500- 7,000 k tops
in 69, Z/28s never had big blocks or automatic transmissions. If it ever was a Z/28, which I doubt, it seems every thing that made it one is long gone. Its just another rust bucket that needs 10s of thousand of dollars of work to be a driver.
I had a dad that loved work around those Camaro's 55, 56. Chevys. And the 72 novas back in the day we bought camaro for $500 did motor.work that the other people didn't know how to. Do or front fender work my dad was the best body and fender man my hole family knew he bought a67chevell 396. When are you that was fun cogrr
People with more money than brains. That '69 Camaro will need at least $30k more to make a decent car and it still won't be worth it as the matching number engine is not there. The blue Chevelle was a MUCH better deal>>at least it's not total JUNK. Just because it is a Camaro and maybe has Z28 or SS emblem on it does NOT make it worth a lot. Junk is still JUNK.
Thanks for the video Crazy Prices think that's crazy check this out a recently re-recorded Bob Dylan's blowing in the wind record only one made supposedly the best sounding one in the world. Sold at auction for 1.8 million yep that's right you can look it up and RUclips and see the whole story that's crazy I remember buying Camaros cheap and they were nice oh yeah that was 45 years ago have a great day
It’s become fashionable to overpay for everything. Unless they are restoring these cars themselves, it’s safe to say they will have 1000 plus hours plus parts. Folks, that’s over 100k. Is it worth it? We need price correction and only one event will do that..... crash. I had a 65 Chevelle SS, 327, 4sp......in the mid 80’s. Got in it and drove the wheels off it ......$700. Road Runners, Chevelles......, could easily pick one up for under a grand. My trophy find, my 69 A12 Super Bee... $500 in ‘85 and I still have it. A buddy bought a Yenko Nova a short time after.....$1,000...... sold it to the Pres of Yenko Club for 20k. The horrid hobby by the common man is being destroyed by people that are seeking a flip. If one could go back to the 80’s and stock em in a barn........ the government would have a hayday with unrealized capital gains.
I actually felt the pale color 67 would be the high seller, even with no drivetrain. The body was just so clean rustwise. I had no idea they would go so high. Thanks for watching!
There were several engines there that sold. It could have been there. I did not look at the numbers and they would have to be bought separately. Sometimes it's hard to know what drives these prices. Thanks for commenting!
And the old guys like myself are dying and for the most part todays 20 year olds don't give a shit about cars so high prices aren't going to stay for ever and the old cars will just be a curiosity in the future and who knows maybe even trashed sad to think about.
I'm a huge camaro /chevy fan. Owned, built, restored alot of them. 1st off when your a camaro guy something that will set you off is someone putting the letter "e" in the name. C A M A R O. no e 2nd it isn't rust free when your showing a rear quarter with rust and you pan up and the trunk channel has rust and you show the hood and front fender and there's rust. Rust is rust and the prices paid were way out of line. It's not the 80s where you could get a great near mint 1 for 10 grand. Times have changed and so has peoples ideas of a good price for a ruff car. Good luck.
It was a cream puff compared to a car that spent its life in Ohio rust belt. To me, rust is when you can see through it, i.e. rust through. I slipped up on the spelling,. Not worth the re-pload. All of this has been addressed in previous comments. Thanks for checking out my video. I'll try to do better.
i quit going to auction's a long time ago because people run the price's for junk way to high , something that should be five grand becomes fifteen grand
It happens. I still see good deals though. You just never know! You have to be in the right place at the right time. Only easy to know is to go. I appreciate your sentiment and your comment.
That's a good observation! Thanks for pointing that out. There was alot of questionable things with the car. Unfortunately I didn't get the cars numbers to know for sure. I hope the buyer did though!
The people paying those prices for those junk cars are the problem with the prices of junk cars and they deserve every last bit of lost money on fixing their rusted out smashed up pile of car. Most of the people who buy these vehicles will be the same as the ones who had them previously saying they gonna restore it while it turns into a pile of rust in their driveway.
Those Camaro prices were a joke. You can get a done car for $30K, believe me I sold my 1967 RS in black at Mecum Auction for $32K and these projects are gonna take that much to complete. Those we $10K cars all day long.
Those people are smoking Crack 😂😂😂😂😂 and all them people leaning all over them cars like they own them.... at those prices it looks like I'll never be able to afford my dream camaro 😢😢😢
Folks it’s not the 80s anymore….do people realize if they ever restore it correctly the car sells upwards of 2 or 300 thousand….you will make your money back easily With the prices these days….I admit it’s a little different on the price for starter cars but that’s just how it is now
@@gordocarbo ok I will admit that it probably won’t sell as fast after you’ve completed it panels and all but that still doesn’t take away from the fact that there is want for these type of cars and believe it or not the price I said is not far off base
@@WoodyFixit yeah in hindsight i kinda feel like a dick for saying that. I’m definitely not one of those people who has to be right all the time or likes correcting people. A ratchet shifter is definitely a different thing
Any body dumb enough to pay that much for a Z28 Vin has more money than brains , car will never be worth what the money that it's going to take to get the thing to a decent shape ,non numbers match zed unreal.
Thanks for the comment! I thought they looked new, Not restored. Imported replicas. I didn't know they made modern replicas. Looks like they sold for around $625 and out of stock. Good to know!
If this is the base line now $$ , Then my 67 RS OEM 327 / 4speed restored is worth a minimum $$ 60 - 70 K ! I don’t think so , maybe ?? These buyers R CRAZZY !! IDT that was a Z28 ! Wrong engine & trans for sure , Could not read tag tho ?
Glad I got to enjoy it in the late 80's and early 90's when you could still buy camaros,chevelles and even 68 chargers for a few thousand and drive them the same day.
@@brian56 I hear that! I was into Studebakers at that time but I bought a running driving 1962 Studebaker Lark 2 door V8/auto w/ an Avanti torque converter for $200 and drove it home! It was RUSTY! but I fixed it up and drove it for years. That was in 1987. Miss those days!
1:07. Camero?
This is not a professional outfit😉
Dave, great video. Thanks for talikng us along.
Semper Fi.
Thank you for your service. I'm glad you liked it.
Looking at the folks around the Z28 as the auction started...sure sign the market demographic is aging out & a price drop will start hitting within a decade. Model A's, Model T's, brass-era, pre-war cars, post-war cars, and '50's into mid-'60's cars are a great example of this.
Yes it's happening with the teens and twenties cars. Will be curious to see if the same will happen with the 65-72 muscle car era.
@@WoodyFixit it will eventually. Time has a record of it
If you pay today's prices you may or will lose you shirt. It's coming. These cars are becoming dated out. Young generations don't have knowledge or interest nor the money.
Good observation. I recall when the big televised auctions started to barely get or not sell beautiful 30sPackards and 40s cars because more was spent on restoring them and the guys they appeal to aren't around. Some of these cars may get restored. Some of themsome old guy will just take it home because he wanted one like he had and he'll just keep it until he dies
@@jackmehoff5523 Agree. They want nothing to do with these...their newer muscle cars are 10x better
Wow! You can get good looking, good running cars like these for these prices!
I paid 500$ for a 68 327 car in 1977. Damn I miss those prices
Is it me and my old age but those auction prices seam way out there
Is definitely NOT just you!
...and the median age of those willing to pay is going to start aging out & dying off.
Im 52 and think these are Ridiculous prices.
@@SF80CAMARO I'm slightly older than you and agree
@@olikat8yes sir
That's a ridiculous price for that 1969 without at least having the original engine.
Bonkers
I bought a real 69 z/28 in 1985 for $4500 i refuse these crazy prices for junk yard cars cobbled together..i have pictures amd memories.....
I remember. Now we wish we could have tucked a few away!
69Z 28 that needs everything and will never be a numbers match car again for 30 grand wow
Just a f ing stupid buy....
@johnboy007
Maybe the car was special?
Maybe the big block engine in the car was a special rare one?
M22 orig trans?
Hopefully the guys that were bidding on it knew what they were doing. Seems pretty ridiculous to me however, to pay that much.
Another interesting video. Obviously, prices are what the market (at the time) will pay. However, imo these seem uniformly high even in 2024.
Note: I collect and have won many vehicles on BaT, Cars&Bids and a few at in-person auctions the latter before 2020. Including one RS from this era. ‘Projects’ in general and esp where much of the hard stuff is left to do typically don’t get premiums like this. Maybe exotic Italians or 911s or XKEs - even then most buyers want them left w/“easy” stuff. But, these bidders here at this auction seem to want big Chevy projects and/or got wrapped up in the bidding. It happens. 😊
Iagree with the points you made. I was a bit shocked at the first car. Thanks for the sharing your thoughts on these. Definitely a unique situation with these cars.
Z28 cars were all 4 speed manual, that 1 wasn’t
Thought they came with a Muncie 4 speed.
100% true. All were 4 speeds....
what a hot blue strip on the rusted out nova,it really sets it off
Those cars sold around 3000 grand new? When I was a teenager you could find a decent running car like those for around 500 dollars, WOW 😲😳🤯
Yes, I agree. I paid $525 for my 1971 Buick gs stage one ain’t finding one like that now.
@@robtigerwas a 455 or 350 ci. Engine?
@@Ruben-xh5vs the stage one package only came on the 455 engine, only 801 made that year
@@robtiger was there a stage 2 at some time?
Late 70s these cars were dirt cheap $1500 would get you an awesome ride.
All 67-69 Z28'S are all 4sp manuals No auto's !!! &302 small blocks only. That car is Not A Z28 !!!,The prices are Way to hi !!! ,Typical rip off auction atmosphere !!! BOY people are falling In to the auction scam !!!
I love those muscle bikes. Looks like a mix of vintage and more recent Chinese-made reissues.
I like them too. The thing I didn't realize was some of the Krate bikes didn't sell well originally and some were only made for one year. Thanks for the comment!
Why would anybody put the side marker lights in the 67 Camaro ,there were no side marker fender lights until 1968
When I was a kid, my dad had a Ford pinto with a 351 Cleveland in it. Had wheelie bar, I was 17, he would never let me drive it, even told him he could be with me, still wouldn't let me
It may have scared the heck out of him a time or two!
Seems to me you could find one in decent shape already painted and semi restored and running strong for nearly the same money. Crazy prices, 15-20 yrs ago those cars in that condition would be 2,500- 7,000 k tops
in 69, Z/28s never had big blocks or automatic transmissions. If it ever was a Z/28, which I doubt, it seems every thing that made it one is long gone. Its just another rust bucket that needs 10s of thousand of dollars of work to be a driver.
It's true. You have to pay to play.
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Damn sure not worth 30k.
Love them old chevys but holy shit theys nuts with them prices
I had a dad that loved work around those Camaro's 55, 56. Chevys. And the 72 novas back in the day we bought camaro for $500 did motor.work that the other people didn't know how to. Do or front fender work my dad was the best body and fender man my hole family knew he bought a67chevell 396. When are you that was fun cogrr
Original? I know I saw manual boot and an automatic selector. Am I SEEING things or what?
Good eye! $21k though. At least two people didn't care! Thanks for checking out the video.
Has the auction on the Schwinn bikes already taken place? Location?
It was 4/27/24 in Greenville Ohio. Same day as the cars.
17:25 Did the auctioneer say that with a straight face? It’s as straight as can be, except where it took out a fire hydrant with the front end.
Well you can't see that from the drivers side😜😂
So which auction house was this held at??
Kirby Lyons
People with more money than brains. That '69 Camaro will need at least $30k more to make a decent car and it still won't be worth it as the matching number engine is not there. The blue Chevelle was a MUCH better deal>>at least it's not total JUNK. Just because it is a Camaro and maybe has Z28 or SS emblem on it does NOT make it worth a lot. Junk is still JUNK.
Where did the stock 302 go?
There was several engines that sold as well as other various parts. It very well may have been there! Alot of guys were looking for/at the numbers.
So now I wonder should i sell my 71 nova ss and make a fortune or hang on and enjoy it a little longer
I vote Keep it, but I'd definitely understand the temptation to sell at prices like this!
But then you'd have to pay some price like these if you ever wanted to own one again. You already own it, so...
These auctions make me sick. Pure fucking greed. Most of those cars look too far gone to restore. How can they be worth anything?
Was that a KIKO Auction..they would sell the air out of tires..
No not Kiko. I've seen a few of their sales advertised but haven't been to one yet. Good to know. Thanks.!
That red 67 Camaro with the 6 cylinder had a header on it and had a Vega/Monza shifter that suggests someone swapped in a Saginaw 4 speed.
Good observation!
That's some big money and US dollars to boot........thanks for sharing.
You bet. $$ Thanks for checking out my video.
454 Did not come out till 1970 Possibly a 396 or 427 but most likely a 396 in that 1969 Camaro
Engine and trans were swapped in.
the 69 Z28 came with the 302 and the M21 4 speed.
Thanks for the video Crazy Prices think that's crazy check this out a recently re-recorded Bob Dylan's blowing in the wind record only one made supposedly the best sounding one in the world. Sold at auction for 1.8 million yep that's right you can look it up and RUclips and see the whole story that's crazy I remember buying Camaros cheap and they were nice oh yeah that was 45 years ago have a great day
2:11 Someone added side markers to a 67 Camaro!??
It's an odd one!
It’s become fashionable to overpay for everything. Unless they are restoring these cars themselves, it’s safe to say they will have 1000 plus hours plus parts.
Folks, that’s over 100k. Is it worth it? We need price correction and only one event will do that..... crash.
I had a 65 Chevelle SS, 327, 4sp......in the mid 80’s. Got in it and drove the wheels off it ......$700.
Road Runners, Chevelles......, could easily pick one up for under a grand.
My trophy find, my 69 A12 Super Bee... $500 in ‘85 and I still have it. A buddy bought a Yenko Nova a short time after.....$1,000...... sold it to the Pres of Yenko Club for 20k.
The horrid hobby by the common man is being destroyed by people that are seeking a flip.
If one could go back to the 80’s and stock em in a barn........ the government would have a hayday with unrealized capital gains.
I think you're onto something there...
you know the seller's are cheap if they can't find some used tires to mount rather than flat one's not like it's gonna break the bank.
They definitely looked like they were pulled from storage with zero prep, but it didn't seem to hurt the sales!
Is this Canadian money or something. Did I hear right that the 327 pale yellow Camaro sold for $21.5? That is crazy money.
I actually felt the pale color 67 would be the high seller, even with no drivetrain. The body was just so clean rustwise. I had no idea they would go so high. Thanks for watching!
That 69 Z-28 is a $15,000 dollar car max in my eye. Unless a DZ302 Engine was included in the sale.
There were several engines there that sold. It could have been there. I did not look at the numbers and they would have to be bought separately. Sometimes it's hard to know what drives these prices. Thanks for commenting!
$30K for that '69 Z? Are they serious??
I could hardly believe it. Not what I was expecting.
My best friend bought a 1969 Camaro in 6 cylinder nice car in 1981 for $1400 in 1981
Miss those days! It was probably good on gas!
$30,000 for a questionable '69 Camaro, I didn't see that it ever had a 4 speed in it, i thought the X-33 had RS stuff on it.
It was a bit eye opening
23:24 so far the only reasonable hammer price is for the no title vega drag car
And the old guys like myself are dying and for the most part todays 20 year olds don't give a shit about cars so high prices aren't going to stay for ever and the old cars will just be a curiosity in the future and who knows maybe even trashed sad to think about.
It's happening...
I'm a huge camaro /chevy fan. Owned, built, restored alot of them. 1st off when your a camaro guy something that will set you off is someone putting the letter "e" in the name. C A M A R O. no e 2nd it isn't rust free when your showing a rear quarter with rust and you pan up and the trunk channel has rust and you show the hood and front fender and there's rust. Rust is rust and the prices paid were way out of line. It's not the 80s where you could get a great near mint 1 for 10 grand. Times have changed and so has peoples ideas of a good price for a ruff car. Good luck.
It was a cream puff compared to a car that spent its life in Ohio rust belt. To me, rust is when you can see through it, i.e. rust through. I slipped up on the spelling,. Not worth the re-pload. All of this has been addressed in previous comments. Thanks for checking out my video. I'll try to do better.
I have to reevaluate what i thought are parts cars i have! 😮
i quit going to auction's a long time ago because people run the price's for junk way to high , something that should be five grand becomes fifteen grand
It happens. I still see good deals though. You just never know! You have to be in the right place at the right time. Only easy to know is to go. I appreciate your sentiment and your comment.
5:18 auto or stick?
Maybe the only thing not original is the horseshoe automatic floor shifter
Holy cow those prices
Wow. Those bidders had more money than sense. Overpaid enormously. I also doubt the originality of that "Z/28".
dz 302 with the crossram intake in the trunk and 4 speed manual shift
@@very5ick112 I’d happily take a cross ram lol.
I think the guy who got the 69 was took advantage of all z/28's had 4 speeds
Took advantage of? He raised his own hand to bid!!!!
11:07 unlikely a real z-28 due to auto tranny
That's a good observation! Thanks for pointing that out. There was alot of questionable things with the car. Unfortunately I didn't get the cars numbers to know for sure. I hope the buyer did though!
More money than brains ...old guys with nothing better to do then outbid each other...most of the cars need 1,000' s of dollars of work
Invest 50 plus sell for less finished. Makes sense to me!
Maybe high, but everyone had the same opinion on price 20 years ago when they were half the price.
All those rusty cars together aren't worth 20000
These are all jumkyard cars imo. Not worth the hassle
they dont know about the BRAND new STEEL repro bodies,LOL
For real might be cheaper lol. I'll have to make do with paper mache on chicken wire. 😉
A Taiwan made Camaro or Mustang is super nice with Chinese made american racing wheels
@@WoodyFixit The original matching numbers taiwan muscelcar with the classical chinese wheels
Id kill for that og paint 67 creamy yellow Camaro. Sucks to live in Latin America. Edit: 22k? Lmao these old guys are delusional.
They very crazy prices
I thought so too.
Factory stock '67-'69 Camaro Z/28 cars were sloth slow turds.
LOL... I'm thinking my Hagerty agreed on value for my 69 Camaro restomod at $75K is way too low!
no probably exactly what it's worth cause it's an "restomod"
Probably an ol ins replacement price.
These cars are long gone...not worth it.
Not interested, It really isn't worth anything after you take the original Drivetrain out of it. Signed-Richard.
I hope it gets fixed up at least.
THIS IS THE REASON I WOULD NEVER EVEN BOTHER GOING TO THESE AUCTIONS FOR 30-50% MORE BUY A CLEAN DRIVER DAMN JOKE
Auction madness?
The people paying those prices for those junk cars are the problem with the prices of junk cars and they deserve every last bit of lost money on fixing their rusted out smashed up pile of car. Most of the people who buy these vehicles will be the same as the ones who had them previously saying they gonna restore it while it turns into a pile of rust in their driveway.
21k for a hammered 67? wow
I bought a decent Camaro (driver) with inspection done for 32k so I don’t know about those prices maybe they know something I don’t
This was sucker with full pockets of cash day
rust free cars ...... then the camera focuses on RUST !! ....HHAHHAHGAHGHAHHAHHAHHAHAHA !!
😂
The overuse of two words heard in 2024.... racist and barnfind. 😮
I hear ya. They sure smelled like a barn inside. Moldy and mousy. All except for the Chevelle and Vega. Eeek.
You forgot “robust”.
And "Iconic "
Those Camaro prices were a joke. You can get a done car for $30K, believe me I sold my 1967 RS in black at Mecum Auction for $32K and these projects are gonna take that much to complete. Those we $10K cars all day long.
Engine should be orange not blue on 67
“Rust free”, then shows rust.
It's ohio. It's not rust until you can see stock your hand through it. 🤣😜
Those people are smoking Crack 😂😂😂😂😂 and all them people leaning all over them cars like they own them.... at those prices it looks like I'll never be able to afford my dream camaro 😢😢😢
That’s some good ass crack they have out there.😂
Folks it’s not the 80s anymore….do people realize if they ever restore it correctly the car sells upwards of 2 or 300 thousand….you will make your money back easily With the prices these days….I admit it’s a little different on the price for starter cars but that’s just how it is now
2-300k no way...not even for a 69 z. Most those were so far gone the need a complete rebody, panels behind the panels etc.
@@gordocarbo ok I will admit that it probably won’t sell as fast after you’ve completed it panels and all but that still doesn’t take away from the fact that there is want for these type of cars and believe it or not the price I said is not far off base
It’s not a ratchet shifter. It’s called a horseshoe or staple
Thanks for correcting that.
@@WoodyFixit yeah in hindsight i kinda feel like a dick for saying that. I’m definitely not one of those people who has to be right all the time or likes correcting people. A ratchet shifter is definitely a different thing
People are nuts paying those prices...Hang it up... U got have money to have this for a hobby anymore 😂😂
Any body dumb enough to pay that much for a Z28 Vin has more money than brains , car will never be worth what the money that it's going to take to get the thing to a decent shape ,non numbers match zed unreal.
It raised some eyebrows!
The Schwinn bikes are all reproductions
Thanks for the comment! I thought they looked new, Not restored. Imported replicas. I didn't know they made modern replicas. Looks like they sold for around $625 and out of stock. Good to know!
Who would pay that much for something if you rebuild it won’t be worth as much as you payed for it original
I think for some people it's not about money. Thanks for the comment.
If this is the base line now $$ , Then my 67 RS OEM 327 / 4speed restored is worth a minimum $$ 60 - 70 K ! I don’t think so , maybe ?? These buyers R CRAZZY !! IDT that was a Z28 ! Wrong engine & trans for sure , Could not read tag tho ?
I really feel you may be right about that. Thanks for the comment.
What is with the best buy Ads
These people have been smoking to many left handed cigarettes. Wow .
😄
Some need to go to the crusher.
That’s a 68.
Nope. Stupid prices.
show a 69 and not a 67 in the beginning of this video
Both are in the sale.
Car hobby has gone to shlit
It's a big money game now.
Glad I got to enjoy it in the late 80's and early 90's when you could still buy camaros,chevelles and even 68 chargers for a few thousand and drive them the same day.
@@brian56 I hear that! I was into Studebakers at that time but I bought a running driving 1962 Studebaker Lark 2 door V8/auto w/ an Avanti torque converter for $200 and drove it home! It was RUSTY! but I fixed it up and drove it for years. That was in 1987. Miss those days!
Not a 69....
Thanks for the comment!
Way way way over priced