Pugging to 3,000 Mythic+ Score | Zero to 3K Challenge #1
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- Today is the 1st episode where we embark on a new challenge. To achieve 3000 raider.io score with purely pugs, no friends, no guildies, limited gold and disconnected to my main Raider.io account. This is the 0 to 3k Challenge and I hope you enjoy!
I will be playing a class that I've never played as a main before, that I will have to master to reach my goal. If you want to support and see more content in the future you can drop a like, subscribe and click the bell. If you didn't enjoy the video or have suggestions for content you would like to see leave a comment down below!
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Chapters:
Intro 0:00
Obtaining Catch-up Gear 3:18
LFR Week 1 5:40
+5 Waycrest Manor 7:27
+4 Waycrest Manor 8:15
+7 Atal'Dazar 9:20
+9 Everbloom 9:53
Weekly Quest Reward 10:49
Week 1 Vault 11:20
LFR Week 2 14:43
Weekly Chores/Upgrading Gear 15:00
+9 BRH 15:37
+12 Darkheart Thicket 16:18
+14 Murozond's Rise 19:00
Normal Amirdrassil 19:43
+15 Atal'Dazar 20:40
Normal Fyarrak 21:05
Final Upgrades 21:57
Outro 22:19
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The message would prolly come better if you do it as a dps. As tank/healer you always have a way easier time pugging.
I’ve got good news for you. Last season I got to Keystone Hero with only pugs on a Balance Druid so if you want the dps perspective then check out the playlist on my channel!
Just play Augvoker, it's free io
Unless tank is a complete new role for someone
people say this, but it really isnt that different.
@@esjames458 kinda is, up until like 26s/27s as tank or heal you will always have a way easier time pugging, due to the fact that people are less interested in playing those specs. I run 25s and I still get declined for 20/21s occasionally. Unless your friend is the tank you would surely never decline a tank that plays 25s for a 20 :D
Good to see you back man, was hoping for this series
I appreciate the continued support, more to come!
Really enjoyed that bro, looking forward to part 2 :)
Thank you, I appreciate the support big time
That is a very wholesome video :D im pleasantly surprised
Awesome video man🔥
Glad you enjoyed!
Awesome vid bro!
Thanks!
Good content, subbed
Great video man I finally just hit 2500 for the first time pug only. Watching this to see if I can learn anything
Love to hear it man, what class/spec did you play?
nice video man! keep it up
Appreciate it!
I started playing at the beginning of Dragonflight and managed to hit 2200 in season one and 2300 in season two but stopped shortly after both times, it always felt like to have fun to do well at higher keys you had to have friends to play with, which i didn't since all they play is classic now. This series has really opened my eyes to what actually can be achieved just pugging so I think I'll try and get back into it and hit 2500. Thanks for the videos and inspiration :D
You're welcome! Goodluck out there
I'm super "scared" of doing Mythic+ so I've never done it, watching the druid one was awesome! can't wait to watch this one
You got this!
Seems like a cool guy keep it up!
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You deserve a lot more subscribers
at 9:50. As a tank you never want to put your back to the mobs. you can only block and parry if you are facing them correctly
it was the back that killed him not the drop of buff
I’m glad you guys brought this up cause for some reason, I didn’t even think of it. Appreciate it!
I am about to get into tanking next week, this video was great. What is that Weakaura i guess on your character screen that shows the item level for keys at bottom of character pane? I been wanting something like that
I'm sorry but I'm not sure which weakaura you are talking about. Can you give me a timestamp where it is on screen for an example
Excited to see the rest of this challenge! :) Am a tank main myself sitting at 3.1k and 7/9mythic, wanted to point out some small stuff here and there to help you out on the way. Have mained multiple tanks as well so am very familiar with prot pala in it's current iteration.
- Remember to keep your front turned towards mobs, if you need to kite (which is a bit rough as a prot paladin since you'll be kiting out of your consecration which in turn makes you squishier) you should run at most sideways so you never turn your back to mobs that are able to melee you.
- As a prot paladin you have an incredible amount of kicks with avengers shield and on demand burst / aoe kicks with divine toll. Look through MDT and plan ahead where you'd want / need that kind of burst for threat or for interrupts. (not saying to hold it all too long, just if you're at the end of a pack maybe hold it instead of using it just so you can use it next pack if that pack needs that kind of utility / threat generation.) Your divine toll shields will not always go where you want except 1 of them which goes on your target. Something that worked wonders for me is a set focus bind and focus avengers shield bind so that i effectively can keep 2+ targets perma interrupted myself. A good place for that for example would've been in the BRH9 you did, at the pack before the stairs leading up to second boss the Arcanist got multiple casts off which you could've stopped yourself as a prot paladin.
- Small thing but on Igira in the raid stack on the other tank and don't leave them since the boss has innate cleave on it's autos which cleaves based on proximity of current target.
- I would recommend getting a plater profile that shows that you have aggro on targets, so that it's easier for you to make out which mob to taunt before it smacks one of your dps a few times, also for tank i'd recommend setting up your omnicd a bit differently so that you can know if your dps players can pump the next pack so that you can maybe go a bit bigger, or if you know they are dry so that you can adjust accordingly.
- There are a bunch of cool skips you can use in dungeons, like in muruzonds rise the pack before chromie coming from the sand area you can walk past on the far right if it's at the left portal channeling. I'd recommend watching some high m+ runs of players or just trying to be creative with it while still learning.
- The premade raider.io routes are not bad by any means, and a good way to get familiar with the dungeon and the mobs in it as a tank. But I'd say after getting a bit warm in your shoes to start making your own routes in mdt based on which packs you've noticed you handle particularly well, or which packs are easier with pugs for example.
- Have fun with it. the dungeons are very forgiving time-wise atm and if you feel that certain dungeons allow you to pull bigger or change your talents to more ulitity oriented talents for example, or for affix specific ones, (turn evil for incorp / dispell for afflicted, etc) don't be afraid to give it a try.
- Gearwise I'd heavily recommend getting the trinket from Galakronds fall as a cheat death and having the tank trinket from fyrakk available. I personally on my paladin change between the fyrakk one and augury from time to time depending on the keys difficulty, i usually keep the cheat death since it just acts as a safe guard in case of a misplay.
- Like a few others mentioned in the comments, tanks function mostly without the healers help currently. The healer should find moments to drink but sometimes if chaining it can be hard to so it's important to be adaptive and put yourself in their shoes here and there. You probably won't die, but the dps might. In dht specifically it could've been fine since the boss doesn't cast the silence when there's only one player alive but just as a rule of thumb it's nice to play around them, you have the right attitude though, trying to figure out what you can improve on is always better than neglecting doing anything wrong.
- I'd say getting a automarker weakaura is good when you're new to tanking. A lot of even seasoned tanks use them and some manually mark but it makes it easier in the long run since you can permanently assign certain players to certain marks.
There's more general tank things that could be said but this message is long enough already tbh, sorry for the wall of text!
I am by no means flawless, a title player or someone that's been pushing this season or any recent seasons, I just pug some keys here and there or play with guildies and started tanking this expansion so I know how rough it can be just 'knowing' everything since the group often looks to the tank to take initiative and assign kicks, lusts, route, etc.
Let me know if you want pointers or to look through some specific key or log or anything, happy to help:) My btag is pANZAR#21543 if that'd be the case! Good luck and look forward to seeing more! :)
Holy book
Hey man, I apologize for how late my response is. I did read your message back at the time but wanted to give you a better response than I had time for. I believe that I have remedied a few of my mistakes that you outlined which I completely agree with looking back in hindsight
1. Turning my back to enemies, still not perfect but a lot more conscious of it
2. The tank stacking on Igira
3. The Rise skips, depending on the route. I haven't done too many Rise keys yet but in a few I've tried to be cleaver with the pulls since they can be so dangerous on fort weeks
4. I got myself the cheat death trinket luckily and still praying for Fyrakk trinket :(
5. Being able to keep myself self sustainable and provide my team with off healing and support util.
Somethings that I have tried to work on from your message but still a work in progress
1. Dealing with my plater profile
2. Perfecting my routes especially on bursting vs bolstering since they are basically opposites
I really do appreciate all the tips since lots of them were things that dps players never have to deal with. Don't be afraid to give me more tips and pointers with any of the new episodes since I am always trying to improve so I have the best shot of completing the challenge.
Appreciate the thought out response, and am glad that I was of some help with some of the things I pointed out.
Will watch the new video in the morning! Great job, keep up the good work! :D @@newmenn
9:32 you didn't die because of shield of the righteous. You died because you turned your back to the boss. Never do that. 0 dodge 0 block 0 parry 0 everything if your back is turned to ememy
Thanks for the tip!
same goes for channeling stuff, ive died a couple times last patch due to Chanel trinket (Anshul)
As someone who only plays Pug, and had almost every season over 3k. I love that you wanna show ppl that its possible to to :)
What class do you play?
@@johntim5293 last 2 seasons i played tank :) This season its Druid Bear and Warrior Tank. before DF i allways played Mistweaver heal
What u mean possible i ding 3k io with pug on 2nd id its braindead keys :D im 3306 now with pug and im heealer
@@ejsiy this season sure , other seasons / addons it wasnt that easy
@ejsiy you are in the top 0.2% of the world in keys with that score at 86 more score you are in title earning position of 0.1%.
That means your opinion and reflection on this actually does not have any weight as you are not the kind of player this types of series are made for.
I've been wanting to try tanking so this looks like it's going to be a great series for me to watch. I main a Fury Warrior so I want a class with a little more utility available
Goodluck, you got this!
Hey man nice vid! Am new to wow, what are the addons that you use?
I have a UI video on my channel that you can check out
the dwarf paladin mog looks awsome
Haha, thanks man. It one of my current favorites. Definetly going to need to farm more though
Healers don't know how little mana they can do a boss with until they try. It's part of healing. Lots of affixes including that 4th affix (the dps) limit drinking it is on the healer to be vocal and manage their mana best they can and also have mana pots. Coming from a long time healer main all across the io spectrum.
yooooo commenting before this channel blows up
keep it up
what's the add-on you use to see all available gear replacements available in your bags (like at 20:11 where you equipped the new trinket).
1st time watcher also and new sub. Great video :)
I believe that is a default wow feature. If you hold the alt key while hovering your mouse over a slot it will show you all the options in your bags. Hopefully this is what your looking for
Wow lol! How did I not know that already…..
I recall it being a feature when I played around 10 years ago but must have just forgotten about it!
Thanks very much for the reply, and I look forward to seeing your progression 👍🏻
9:40 the boss hit that hard cause u are turning your back to him:D your bis trinkets for progress are Cheat Death and Fyrak vers shield one, so opening on Tank would be better for sure
cheat death is a crutch tbf
@@idofps9709 and the higher you go the more you'll notice it's necessary
OMG, you are 100% right. I didn’t even think of that when watching the footage. I think to kill the add I should be flipped so both can be in front of me and I’ll try to get those. Thanks
Hey! I don't play pala, but I started playing tanks in the middle of previous season (3130 bear, 2758 pwar and 2500ish dh season 2, 3258 dh and 2300 pwar currently in season 3) after playing a bunch of dps specs at the same-ish level since season 1 of BFA and, I don't know if it's going to work for you, but I can give you a few "I wish I knew b4 I started tanking" tips.
1) The absolute most important one (as a few other ppl mentioned in the comments already) - If you turn your back to the mob/boss - you're probably insta dead just as you died on the 3rd boss in AD. If you want to move with the pack/boss/chain one pack to another, you don't have to face them all the time, you can move sideways, which allowes you to not move like a turtle and still block/dodge/parry and stuff. It takes some practice, but it isn't that hard.
2) Healer's mana, it's way simplier. Basically, just look at your healer's mana for a second when you run from one pack to another and if it's below 50% when you get to the boss room, just ask them if they need to drink, I actually have a "/p mana?" macros on one of my bars, it takes 1 second to ask and can possible avoid a wipe.
3) Your gear. It's probably late for that tip since you already upgraded a bunch of it, but still, don't waste your flightstones on the gear you will switch after 1-2 keys. It may seem you have an infine amount of them right now and you can even cap them, but once yout get your hands on hero track items, you won't have enought to upgrade them when you actually need it. I have this problem right now, I'm at 483 ilvl on my main rn and I don't have any stones to upgrade my 470 ilvl belt and 476 ilvl ring.
4) Routes. Yes, you can use the ones from rio and it'll work in +20 just fine, but it's always better to cook your own routes in MDT addon because when you add the pack to your route, you will actually see what mobs are in this pack and at some point you will think "Ah, man, these mobs are nasty, I don't want to pull them at all" and find another way to get count. For example, in your +15 AD, you don't want to pull this pack you showed in the video because there's two troll rogues on top of these small stairs and they can cause a lot of problems like one of your dps will accidentally pull them and die, plus they are pretty hard for a tank, especially if you don't feel comfortable with your healer.
5) Council trinket. Don't use it, just don't. This thing does almost 0 damage and even less healing and the main stat stacking buff is horrible. It stacks every 3 seconds and gives you 300 main stat for 8 seconds after 90 seconds in combat. You don't need 300 main stat after a minute and a half into the fight. If you want some damage, even the dps trinket from BRH is way better and if you want more defensive option, tank trinket from EB with a stamina on it is WAY better even though both of these trinkets are dogshit compared to some other ones.
6) Automarker weakaura. It's a mandatory for premade groups to call kicks and all that, but in pugs, you can use it as a learning tool in some way. It only marks mobs that can cast something, so you will automatically know you can use your kick or stun this mob, which helps quite a lot.
That's all that I can remember from the top of my head, but if you have any questions, reply to this comment and I will give you my bnet tag and we can chat if you'd like. Good luck on your journey, tank is a very fun role to play.
Heyo, I'm sorry for how late my response is. I read your comment at the time but procrastination got the better of me. I appreciate the feedback, I totally agree with all of yours points about turning my back, mana and my routes. I did feel similar about the gear situation at the time since I even waited all this time to upgrade my pants because I wanted to replace them with an embellishment anyway. I had no idea the council trinket was that bad. What do you run or feel like is BiS? Most people have been saying cheat death and fyarrak rageheart. Thanks again for all the tips, they definitely helped me improve a ton from episode 1 to 2 and every so often I take some time to look back and reread some of the points you and a few others made so that I can hopefully keep them as habits!
Its my first m+ season and i play only pug. about to hit 2800. GL and keep it up guys :)
Good job! What spec do you play?
@@newmenn im playing enhancement shaman. Was very hard for me to get into this class haha
100%, I would agree it is the hardest melee to master and if not it is one of so good on you
3.5kio last season and 3.4k this one, i prot war tank and DPS, dps is 100% easier to carry keys with, you would assume its tank but not, as a dps u can carry the tanks pulls with defensives and interupts and if ur dmg is on lock you can do the simpliest pulls and time any 22+ just by doing good dps
Hey! Any chance you've got a link to your UI profiles for those nameplates and Weak Auras's for paladin? :)
My nameplates profile should be in my UI video on my channel if I am remembering correctly. My weakauras for general paladin abilities is by Afenar
the 40% of profession tho the 2 percent detail the lighting this has everything
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Hey! I am planning to start WoW in a week. Is there stuff left for me to do in Dragonflight? Or stuff that is worth it?
There is still about 3-4 months before the next expansion is expected to release so right now is a good time to learn the game since this current season is mostly for fun and to do crazy stuff. If you are more interested in the new content then it makes lots of sense to wait for it to be released to join
@@newmenn Thanks! Meant to say get back into the game after a 4 year break
Not stacking with the other tank on Igira was pretty triggering. 😂 For future weeks, stack with the other tank because Igira will snack the target nearest her primary target really hard. You can kill melee by standing off to the side.
Yeah, I totally forgot about that at the time but realized after some comments
If you’re going into a pull in M+ with no SoTR uptime, and it’s a dangerous pack or fortified, pop Ardent Defender or a defensive so you don’t get obliterated. And pop Sentinel on CD. Never really save it
Thanks! I’ve been trying to use Eye of Tyr since I read it’s good to use if no SoTR before a pack and I’ll try to use sentinel more often cause that is probably better
Hi, love your video could you please share your plater profile? Loving the fact that your target health bar changes color
Yep, if you check out my UI video on my channel then go to the link in the description and then you can go to my plater profile and copy that to use in game
good content
Thank you
I don’t have a set team, a few pretty skilled friends, but basically have been pugging the majority of these higher keys now. Pushing 2900+ now
Love to see it, good job
As a healer main, I'm used to just saying something if I need mana. Only certain healers need mana anyway. Current season monk, evoker, and paladin all are pretty good without needing to drink.
Thanks for the insight
I like your elv ui profile, do you have an import or something?
I don't use Elvui but I do have a UI video on my channel
what is your transmog from the start of the video?
The set is called "Fel-Automation Exoplate" but it was from a trading post a few months ago so you would need it to appear there again to get it
Being a main healer myself even I forgot to look at mana bars when I tank but also as a healer I made a Macro that emotes and spams chat that I have low mana…So really that’s also on the healer for not letting you know sooner than later and for not having some just in case mana pots..
If it happens with another healer I might get a weak aura that reminds me to check mana
i feel this haha started wow 1 month ago, am now at 2600 score :)
Let’s go, love to see it
whats the name of the addons that shows item levels on the picture and .. the one with tracking the rank?
Deja character stats for the item level on the picture and OiLvL for the enchants/rank
1 thing to remember abut Ppal is that sometimes conc is fake. Keep an eye on it.
Don't rely on the healer to keep you up as tank. They basically shouldn't/cant, just keep yourself alive :)
Good to know, slowly getting the hang of it
@@newmenn It's only mostly of true, there's times where the healer helps you, but mostly that's for higher keys.
Places like when making misplays, coordinating externals etc. One good example could be second boss in dht grips on tyrannical keys.
I am in my first season pushing beyond 20s and currently close to 0.1% title cutoff. So some tips to do 20+ easy for every player.
1. Do you own keys, especially DPS.
2. Do not always play for score. Run your own key/your friends key, even if it is not score.
3. You will fail keys, part of the game. The higher you go, the lower the winrate.
4. Read a guide on your rotation and reflect yourself on that.
Goodluck, hero is easy for everyone, even your mom who never touched a computer if she tries. 1% cut off (currently 3167) is doable for all that give it a go and reflect on themself. Title (currently 3381) is a big time investment and will take skill and a lot of patience. Title also requires networking.
I wouldn't say I'm a top 1% healer but, I main HPal this season (which is on the lower end of healers atm), but I'd say just ignore any hpal complaining about mana in anything below +15, even at 447 was timing 16s/17s, doing bosses with 30% mana.
Not a tank issue entirely so, wouldn't let it bother you.
Good to know, thank you!
I think 3k io is very doable by most people on any class. This season is very forgiving tomer wise.
Yep, harder on some for sure but hoping I can show players that pugging to higher keys is doable for sure
People talking about the Priestess hitting hard because you turned your back, but no one mentions the boss just buffed herself with Gilded Claws which is her tank buster mechanic that should be dispelled? Although maybe it got dispelled instantly by the priest and I just cant tell by your frames.
As a dps player, I had no idea there was a tank buster mechanic on this fight. I was just using my defensives whenever I felt threatened. I'll try to keep an eye out for it
i pugged +25 keys week 4 so its very duable up until +27 is semi duable,
That healer can just type OOM and most would would understand lol
do you know what enchant is? it helps a lot! lol
Waiting till I have better gear
@@newmenn Just do it already those are not bad and you are gonna use for a while!
1) You can't do the last fight vs Xavius by yourself. They'll put a silence circle on you and you'll need another player to stack on.
2) With the amount of sustain most tanks now have healer mana needs to be watched by the DPS, not the tank.
Glad to see you back, look forward to seeing how you grow the channel and work towards that relaxed voice you had at the end of last challenge. 🙂
Good to know and I’m glad to be posting again. Hopefully I can get to 3K
Umm what? How does healer mana need to be watched by dps? The tank is the one who pulls….
@@kingtut8367 it's a silly hyperbolic statement yeah. The thing is though most tanks are for the most part self-sufficient. DKs, DH, Paladins and Bears can all heal themselves very consistently. To the point where Bears and Paladins can actually be both tank and healer in well coordinated groups.
Monks I'm not sure how good their self-healing is, but they've had some health boosts that make it very difficult for them to fall over.
Warrior has a lot of self-healing through leech, and one big slef-heal in Victory Rush, plus they take like no physical damage.
Basically the point is that as you're moving through trash healers more often are going to need to keep the DPS up rather than the tank. So as long as it's only the tank in combat then the healer should not need to really worry about much.
Or to put it more bluntly, mana is a healer problem, not a group problem. Yes, how the tank pulls and decides on the cadence of the dungeon is hugely important, but for the most part the healer needs to look out for when they feel they need to get mana and let the group know rather than hoping the tank sees they are running dry.
Wait, I didn't realize that the quest line gives you a quest to kill fyraak for an Enchanted crest. I skipped this on every character lmao.
Yeah, it is definitely a great quest line since you will be killing Fyraak anyway
I feel like the healers only exist in there to heal themselves and the dps, to me at least the tanks seem very self sufficient for the most part.
Good to know, thanks
Anybody know what that gear add on is?
What do you mean by that?
What is up with that left and right wiggle you do nonstop? 😢
I'm sorry man, old habits die hard
They must have inflated the keystones, in shadowlands I would struggle to time 23’s even if everything went well. This season, I’m already doing 26’s and not even BIS yet.
Comparing across expansions usually isn't usually very accurate since so much can change but since it is the 3rd season the keys are starting to get a lot higher. The gear increase from last patch to this one was higher than normal too so that plays a role
I was 3.3k last season too all pugs + 6alts at 3k io pugs also
Very impressive
At 10:30 min he talks about how its the healers responsibility to heal the tank. This is not exactly right, it is the tanks job to keep himself alive and the healers job to keep him stable. with the exception of warriors, every tank speck has so much self healing that its the consensus in high keys that healers don't waste their mana on tanks and instead only help them out with externals. For the particular boss Newman was on, the way you as a prot pala deal with the charge dmg, is to stack 5 holy power, run out, conc + shield of righteousness and a defensive, once you popped this you either heal yourself up with your free cast word of glory or you cast 1 holy power generator and use word of glory. word of glory will heal you way more then any burst heal (except lay on hands) a healer can provide anyway.
plz do not miss understand ofc a healer should help out the tank when he needs it. I play tank and have a lot of respect for healers who knows how to heal tanks correctly, cause it is very different from how they heal the rest of the group.
This is not true the 2 tanks where this is true is DH and DK.
Paladin needs more then maintenence at times warrior needs it for magic damage and druid takes increased healing brewmaster I do not personally know.
The reason you might believe this is because tanks in general are good this season.
Also just FYI Prot paladin does the least self healing of all the tanks including warrior with their absorbs.
3k this season is pretty much the same as 2500 last. The levels have inflated a lot.
I'm at 2870 and its really slowed down with the pug groups..
I wouldn’t worry too much, as the season goes on and people get more gear. It should become easier to get some more score
Your healer in DHT was just complaining to complain, hpala dont really go oom unless u play it weird
i pugged all the way to 2100 no issues besides the random shit players but dude i couldn't imagine trying to push 22+ with randoms
It's going to be very interesting but I'm hoping we can get it one
As a main healer. It is absolutely my job to tell you I need mana
Not your job to ask
You should say it , but he should track it.
If it's not a common teammate, no point at blaming others. EVERYTHING is your fault.
Yo, I pug 2500+ each season as a prot pal main and the single best thing I've done is macro wings and SotR into all my abilities. It sounds cringe af, but I can't bring myself to play any other tank since S1 of SL. i can't recommend this enough.
Thanks for the tip
This season is even easier than s2
In what aspect?
Ever aspect@@newmenn
That is way too general of an assumption that basically leaves no room for discussion or even agreement cause it is so vague
3k is easy, it's strange i see people in comment say i am close to 0.1% for the title, it only count the last day of the season when first will be like 4k rio ^^
Yes but the season is still fresh and most players haven't even finished prog. Just because you aren't at 4k right now that doesn't mean you aren't a top 1% worthy player. Assuming players keep playing, they if are top 1% right now then it is totally possible they keep progressing and gear throughout the season to be top 1% at the end
@@newmenn I think title is 0.1%, not 1% but not sure.
They nerfed keys in season 2 too, I don't know if they keep the nerf
Usually in a new season they will buff the keys since we are getting better gear but this season the buff was a lot less than normal. I meant to say 0.1% but my point still stands. Good players are playing now and will be playing at the end of the season, they will continue to improve so if you are good right now there is a good chance you can be just as good relative to others players by the end of the season
i've tried pugging keys and lfr at 453 ilvl and get tossed everytime. dev evoker
This is a really unfortunate situation where in keys, augmentation is a lot more desired than dev. I would say for the most part though if your gear and knowledge is good you can still get 18-20 keys done as devastation. Good luck
It is not a challenge if you play meta spec.
Go play affliction warlock, that will be more challenging and interesting.
I started this challenge before prot paladin was considered meta. I was playing it 2 weeks before the release of this video. The point of the challenge was also to play a new role which I don't care how good a class is if you are new to a role it doesn't really matter. I got to KSH on balance druid last season and that wasn't considered meta at all either so
Prot pally isn’t much of a challenge in M+.
What if it is a brand new role though?
@@newmenn - Well the “challenge” here was getting a high rank yeah? Well that’s 1000x easier on a tank class that’s been meta since the middle of S1.
Do it on a DPS spec that nobody wants and then I’d be impressed ;)
17:34 It's the healers job to be aware of their own mana as far as I'm concerned as a tank. If they said "I need to drink" or something and you pulled anyway then that can be on you but the healer assuming you know how much mana isn't on you. I tell my healer to just tell me if they need mana otherwise im pulling. Key's are timed and I don't have time to waste asking the healer "mana?" after every pull. Tanks have to deal with managing not only their own cooldowns but the parties so they can figure out pull sizes, they have to manage moving the mobs and pats and much more, tanks can deal with their own mana.
i personally think getting to 3k is standard. its going beyond it, its the real deal.
Its a good goal, but for perspective:
3k is ~top 1% atm
2650 is top 10%
2150 is top 25% of players
Bros thinks being top 1% is standard do you even play the game ?😂
Isn’t this just what Dillisan started doing
He did start a similar challenge recently. I already completed the 0 to KSM and Hero challenge last season. It was definitely heavily inspired by him and a few others like VesperalTV so check them out
@@newmenn awesome! Really loved the video
Thats not even a challenge in this expansion its more like a chore
Pretty sure, you just don't enjoy the season then xD
One of the most annoying strafe wobbles i've seen. What a terrible habit, what even causes people to do this?
Not sure how it is a terrible habit other than the fact that you are enraged by the most simplest of things. Many players do it keep their hands moving the same way that Starcraft 2 players spam extra keys that don't actually do anything for APM. It is also common for people who used to PvP
"Not sure how it is a terrible habit other than the fact that you are enraged by the most simplest of things." You didn't think this over, did you? Blind rage? 🤣@@newmenn
I did though, I clicked send. Your first comment and you called how I play annoying while also being condescending so yeah seems enraged to me
lost me respecing for trinkets absolute trash trinkets
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None of these "zero to bla bla" gimmick videos are of any value..... because they are never an actual zero; they're just people starting an alt. To get an actual zero you'd have to find someone who never played wow before, never did mythic+ before on any character ever. Nobody does that.
Wayne Gretzky going to a new town and entering an amateur hockey tournament with a fake name isn't revealing anything about how to go from zero to hockey legend.
I'm flattered you would compare me to Wayne Gretzky cause that basically makes me the greatest wow player of all time. Anyways, there are series on youtube that I have seen a bit of that are wow "noobs" who show you their first time playing the game, hitting max level and doing things like mythic+. The big difference is those players aren't able to offer valuable tips to other "noobs" to become better because they are also new to the game. The point of this series for me is an experienced player starting with no advantages so that IF a new player was to take the time to practice their class and have knowledge of fights and mechanics they can take a SIMILAR path to mine. WoW is actually a really complex and overwhelming game to new players so I don't see any harm in trying to give them a rough goal to shoot for and guide them
@@newmenn Friends and guilds are 'never' what prevents people from reaching various proficiency goals in wow. Over and over and over again... from me playing 2004 until today.... there are millions of players with tons of friends and large guilds constantly playing.... and over and over and over again that never made them reach proficiency goals faster. Actually going out to learn the class, either from an expert or reading and digesting guides has always been what gets people to those goals. Thus all these videos, by you and everybody else who does them...... are not showing any relevancy to the "zero to bla bla" title. It will be great for your fans that want to watch you do stuff, but there is a disconnect in logic between title and what you're actually doing.
So why would it be that these players with guilds and friends don't reach their goals? In my opinion it can be a few things. Some players don't have the desire to truly push in the game and that is totally okay, it is a game after all but for many it is the lack of a solid plan or direction. A RUclips series where a player who explains multiple times that they understand mechanics and their class but looks like a fresh player might be a good place to start. I have said many times in videos that I recommend for players to check out common guide websites like WoWhead and use Raidbots to sim their character. These are valuable skills to improve so that new players can be on the same playing field as me. Them and I both being on a fresh character who looks like they have no experience this patch but can prove their worth in easier content over time
@@newmenn I repeat..... friends and guilds are never the reason why someone doesn't meet their proficiency goals. Having friends or a guild doesn't make you proficient.... and lack of either of them does not equate to "zero" for the trope of these video gimmicks.
You are so hyper fixated on the one point that players CAN play the game without guilds or friends and aren't considering the fact that most of them won't because it isn't fun for them because it will take considerably longer and lacks a sense of community. Nobody said it was impossible to reach your goals without guildes but having a rough idea that you can follow makes it easier
3k io isn't high, really.
3k is like 22-23on all keys each week?
It is more then enough to be inside the top 10% of the playerbase so more then 90% of players do not get it
@@jurgenbuntinx1 21-22 probably enough. Esp. if you play meta specs like prot pally it's something pretty much anyone can achieve if they want to.
Purely with pugs it is rare to see players at 3k. Not impossible but usually going to be AOTC and CE which is a very small part of wow players. Also want to make it clear that at the time I chose Prot paladin it was still considered the clear number 2 so it being meta now wasn’t what I planned for
@@newmenn don't mind what people say, reaching 2500 pugging only alrdy is a pain in the ass... in meta and off meta. I reached 2800 and just quit to an alt bcs pugs break down after 1 mistake
every bum has 3k in df lol
Woah man, not cool to belittle people like that. 3k score this season is currently around like top 2% which is pretty good so I definitely disagre