I believe at the enquiry one of the SAS was asked why he had fired 13 rounds at the terrorists, he simply replied that was how many rounds were in the magazine.
Really so ira members giving the same response to killing British soldiers is OK with you then .. You do know far more British soldiers left NI in coffins than IRA including sas . Not to mention two British soldiers who lost their lives as a direct result of the Gibraltar incident
@kieranprice5496 I'm implying that serious issues like this are not childish dick measuring contests .. Both sas and ira members died in NI over the years and one thing I can guarantee is that their loved one grieved in the same way
They did accept it: 300 active service IRA men against the combined forces of the UDR, RUC, Britsh Army, UVF, UFF, UDA and SAS would have understood full well what they were doing.
@@daveferguson935 Well the british know all about wreaking chaos and conflict and then running to the tv and newspapers whining whenever their targets hit back, so that's a very funny comparison.
@daveferguson935 Well the british know all about wreaking chaos and conflict and then running to the tv and newspapers whining whenever their targets hit back, so that's a very funny comparison.
My school had a strict policy on removing graffiti timeously. However for some reason the massive "SAS 3 IRA 0" that appeared on an external sign took absolutely ages to be removed.
I was serving in Gibraltar at the time and remember that they took out the IRA because there was a bomb in a car positioned where they do the ceremony of the keys and there was a kindergarden school at the back of the wall, the SAS saved many a life that day
It is extremely ironic. I wonder how meny of them actually know the warabouts of the IRA who have mysteriously disappeared with there free pardons in there pockets
@@davidrhodes7655 presiding judges did a lot they should not have. Ask the Guildford four or the Birmingham six or all those jailed during internment. And the British still couldn’t defeat a small Irish militia of civilians.
And if Blair had not surrendered in the Good Friday agreement they could have been completely eliminated instead of walking around with "safe conduct" letters in their pockets while British soldiers are persecuted by their own government, a complete disgrace!
@robgreenhill1426 I heard dragons came and everyone had to run. Then a Knight on a bigvwhite horse chased the dragon away. Lol. You people are idiots! The facts are available, look them up.
British intelligence got to be very good at knowing who was who and what they were up to and where. Plus they had informers on the inside and at senior levels. This eventually saw a reduction in IRA activity.
Ironic that two of the IRA army council sat in the House of Commons. 14 Int were very good at intelligence gathering in Republican areas of Northern Ireland as well as South of the border
@paddyleblanc ‘back channels ‘ British governments can’t be ‘seen to negotiating with “terrorists” - but they always end up doing precisely that viz Mau Mau in Kenya, in Cyprus, Aden, Palestine Mandate etc etc. A little “perfidious Albion” goes a long way.
According to the official account of the operation, *Savage entered Gibraltar undetected in a white Renault 5 at **12:45* (CET; UTC+1) on 6 March 1988. An MI5 officer recognised him and he was followed, but he was not positively identified for almost an hour and a half, during which time he parked the vehicle in the car park used as the assembly area for the changing of the guard. At 14:30, McCann and Farrell were observed crossing the frontier from Spain and were also followed.
Northern Ireland and all its problems is a lot more complicared than most people will ever know. It goes all the way back to Henry the 8th as the author of Englands most successful plantation. The hate and menace that some Irish people have for the British is carried for generations like a curse on their souls. I am Irish but thankfully never was extreme and am not a hater. Not all Irish people are the same . There have been much trouble in my country.
Respect to you, I am a British Veteran, served in Northern Ireland, loved the people regardless of their religion i.e. from both sides, most British Veterans would say the same we have a lot of resspect for the people there Protestants and Catholics, a lot of good people... however when you choose to kill and maim and accept children, women and innocent people will die from your hands then you become a legitimate target, I witnessed some atrocities from both sides extremists, I hope Northern Irelandis amuch more peaceful place than when I was there, most of us wanted to stay as the people were some of the best on this Planet.
@@UnexpectedJourney59Eng I was subject to almost daily abuse by the British Army, this is when I was going to school! How do you think the people are going to view you, when you wear the uniform of the country who treat you like scum? I never hated the English, just your government.
This happened the day after I left Gibraltar on the way to Tidworth , it would be an understatement to say all of us that left the day before were gutted to have missed it. Joys of being a serving soldier at the time.
@@Sidney1WG was supposed to go to Hong Kong after Gibraltar but ended up going to Tidworth as we were told due to it being handed back to the Chinese. Safe to say we were all gutted.
@@ryanparker7258my brother was at Tidworth in the RE. I used to jog past the Shell station daily when our ship was visiting Gib (RN). Left the Royal Navy in ‘86, but got a shock a couple years later when I saw the petrol station on the news about the killings. Andy McNab tells a slightly different version in one of his books.
In the province when Lough Gall went down, I remember it well. What's not often talked about are the inconspicuous Intelligence-gatherers in the province. Young men and women risked their lives every day, driving, walking and sitting around dangerous places. They listened and watched, and got no glamour or glory. This was how Intel got back and how lives were saved.
@@wingnut71 do it then ya coward, you think people are going to stand there and let you whack them, get a grp ya clown and get a life watching too many war films you are lol
Well they shot the Brit commander who authorised operation flavious and his wife in the head. They both survived but with horrific injuries. What did any of it solve on either side? Nothing. Absolutley nothing was solved till people sat round a table and decided to talk. It was ALL a waste of life.
@@RebelofIreland Rubbish. The policy of getting the Loyalist paramilitaries to do the dirty work, and deep intelligence infiltration of the Provos at every level, that is what brought the terrorists to the table. The Brits (MI5) even got them killing their own people as touts when they were completely loyal. The real story is how the British establishment then treated with Sinn Fein; instead of glorying in a victory and trying to humiliate them, they treated them as equals, ultimately THAT is why there is (relative) peace today.
Look at the way the IRA handled narrow water in warrenpoint the biggest loss of life since the second world war. They said I'm Abigail where no amateurs they took the fight to use and they were betrayed by shin the leaders in the political wing of the IRA. And that snake cappuccini
Firstly, they were not insurgents, but terrorists. In the south they were little more than bandits, robbing banks and businesses. It's Loughgall in Armagh, not Lockal (or Lock go) Arma, IRA should read PIRA. The only places that the PIRA enjoyed total support were area's totally controlled by them. The vast majority of the wonderful Irish people from BOTH religious divide rejected terrorism as on neither side did they truly represent "the people" as they claim.
My unit was based in RUC Castlereagh and our training sergeant was SAS attached. A really nice lad, paratrooper from Wales. We called him the mountain goat because he was around six foot tall and had these really skinny legs. He taught me a load of new weapons systems including HKs, Walther's etc. His catch phrase was 'even the sass pick up brass'!
And that is what annoys me in modern movies....no one needs more ammo or has to use an enemy weapon. Not so modern but Battlefield L.A. prime example, they have spent so much ammo, get a FOB that has been destroyed but at no point does anyone say "Hey we need more ammo"
More Brirish soldiers and Security Forces were killed than in Iraq and Afghanistan. So , how was it not a war ? Also, the Good Friday Agreement is registered as a Peace Treaty Between who ? Ireland and Britain, because they couldnt sign a Peace Treaty with the IRA. But, now Sinn Fein are the largest party both North and South of the border. Do you remember the reaction by both sides to the GFA ?
@@experimental9017 you are missing his point , if it's a war why are you trying to convict soldiers for killing the enemy in a war zone, it strikes me that republicans claim its a war when they kill soldiers but want to claim it isn't when their soldiers are killed ? Then its all of a sudden a civil criminal matter, you cannt have it both ways
They also claim to have had all these glorious battles against the SAS (never happened) yet moan about a “shoot to kill” policy?? Has any combatant ever complained about being shot at? No. It’s part of the deal. The IRA are the original blame culture, they’re responsible for nothing and everything is everyone else’s fault. Not a vertebra between them. Spineless.
Danny McCann, he was the one that initiated the ied that was detonated on our patrol on 7.7.87. He got the end he deserved. None of our patrol was seriously physically injured, mental injuries however……
You have my sympathies, I hope that you and any other members of that patrol are alright still today, maybe not entirely clear of the memory, but still mainly healthy in both bodily and mental manners
All carried out with the knowledge and consent of Mrs T and Co. Christ I wish we had leaders like that these days. Big boys games played and big boys prizes won.
Cowards... lol. Average Joe's taking on full time professional soldiers. Yeah proper cowardness. Unlike all loyalist organisations who were helped by English state, MONEY, WEAPONS, INTEL, ESCORTED TO AND FROM MURDERS. etc etc ..
Actually, far more SAS, Mi5 and specialist soldiers were killed than IRA. The comparison in the death toll is very one sided. No Surrender ? The loyalists rioted when the GFA was signed.
There intention was to indiscriminately kill and bring terror to a British protectorate. They were stopped and killed for their actions. I have nothing but respect for the SAS who delivered a justice on behalf of Britain to these people.
Arrogantly spoken. You wouldve done the same if Britain invaded and took over your country. They did mine too, and once we finally got independence, they fked us over with sanctions then abandoned us to be taken over by communist radicals we cant get rid of that they supported, and have since fked our country into an oblivion, and pretends we don't exist anymore. And my people wanted nothing more than to be left alone. But the world kept interfering. The Empire's foundation was built on the subjugation of others. And now we pay for it with our lives. Had you been in my world, idve beaten you to within an inch of your life.
By British protectorate you mean another part of the world attacked and held by force by the British? Another location for the murder rape and robbery committed by the British empire. Cop yourself on. The British are among the most brutal terrorists ever seen. They killed multiple times more people than the nazis and had concentration camps long before them. Slaughtering unarmed civilians is an acceptable tactic for them all through their history so don’t try take the high moral ground when you know what atrocious war crimes you British have always committed.
I used to work for a fellow who was heavily involved in the 'intelligence' side of the operations in Northern Ireland. Intelligence gathering was proving to be more than a little difficult, as the senior Republican prisoners that were held in prison, were famously uncooperative, so. an operation was mounted, where the senior prisoners were supposedly being transferred. They were loaded into a helicopter and taken several miles out to sea. They were then blindfolded and questioned again, nobody said a word. Then the first one was pushed out of the door, and they kept their nerve until the second one was ejected. They the remainder became very talkative indeed. What they didn't know, was that the helicopter had flown in a circle and when the prisoners were thrown out, they were hovering only two feet over a nice grassy field. Apart from being traumatised, particularly the ones who had been thrown out, they had not a mark on them.
@@jacquiewalton1355 I am not a particular fan of American films. But as the incident in question happened in the 70s, unless the film you have in mind was released before then, the influence is likely to have been the other way around.
Yes this was a tactic used though you are absolutely wrong when saying they suddenly became talkative! The prisoners were hooded and brought up in the helicopter one by one. Then told to talk or be tossed put. None talked or in fact could have talked as the IRA were operating in units with one unit having g no knowledge of other units names addresses or any other information that would have been useful. The only results from this particular tactic was several IRA men becoming very rich from the British government after successfully bringing compensation cases through the European Court of Human Rights. Your story is embellished somewhat as thus oartictular tactic was only used once on four IRA men , well three, one wasn't even a member. After that it was obviously spread to others who then knew the trick. The IRA were trained in interrogation techniques plus had intimate knowledge of the tactics used as each one arrested was throughly debriefed-so I'm not saying NONE broke, but very few plus whatever information gained was useless because as soon as one was arrested any arms dump they knew off were moved, any other members went on the run until the person arrested was debriefed, either in jail or when released. The most successful tout British intelligence ever had was a 'walkin' - Steaknife, who lived in the same street as I did growing up. To this day noone knows why he did offer his services, though its believed it was because he was beaten in a fight after pestering a girl while drunk in a Belfast club. His 'handlers' however let countless innocent people die, far more than they saved, if they saved any at all. This rat was part of the IRA security squad along with several other touts. They tortured innocent people until these poor guys couldn't take anymore pain or having their families threatened and so admitted being touts. This was largely to cover Steaknife and the others in the security squads touting and was of no particular use to the intelligence services who listened in to this torture and eventual murders of many many innocent people. I'd say from around 8 to 10 years before the ceasefire British intelligence actually ran the IRA, maybe nit for so long, maybe 5 years, it's hard to be exact. They had touts on the army council, gerry Adams was one, the IRA were riddled with touts by this stage, apart from South Armagh and other boarder units who were so against the ceasefire a feud was only narrowly avoided with Adams coming within a whisker of actually being shot dead at a meeting in a bar in the Market area. If he hadn't been removed by his bodyguards he would've been dead, then no ceasefire. Have to say it was actually very clever of the intelligence services to use him in this way. It ended a senseless campaign and eventually brought - a form - of peace to N Ireland. However they still haven't learnt from history. The real ira and other splinter grouos have now come together and rather than loosely lead armed groups of no more than ten or twenty all at each others throats more interested in 'taxing' drug dealers REAL leaders have emerged creating a NEW IRA who are steadily becoming just as dangerous as the old. As they say - Ireland unfree will never be at peace.
I salute you sas men for eliminating murdering scumbags who were intent on blowing up a car bomb ultimately killing innocent people. Live by the sword die by the sword. No surrender. All lives matter 🙏 ❤️ 💙
How many replacements filled into the ranks of the Provisionals after the high profile slaying of these 3 volunteers? Answers on a postcard.... Even members of the British army who occupied Ireland, state, quite correctly, that Ireland isn't the place where you should be creating any martyrs, yet all these killings served was to do just that. If you know anything, literally anything at all the Gibraltar operation, it's an operation that should never have gone ahead by the Provisionals. They were rumbled in Gibraltar from at least the previous November. 3 members of the PIRA unit were also allowed to return back to Ireland following the killings.
@alexholmes5026 ye as long as they eliminated children and women killers who slaughtered hundreds of innocent victims with there sugar and fertiliser bombs
What about the innocent unarmed civilians killed on Bloody Sunday and in ballymurphy by cowardly British paras. The paras are murdering scumbags. Most of the victims were shot in the back. The paras planted guns on the dead bodies and said they had been attacked by the IRA. They kept lying for forty years until the facts were proven in court. Can’t get bigger scumbags than that.
@@tofu-warrior7948 The British Army who occupied Ireland? You mean the British troops in Northern Ireland, part of the UK? The wiff of a terrorist apologist is rife!
The SAS eliminated far too few of these self declared "soldiers". There should have been braver decisions from Westminster. So much unnecessary suffering as a result.
There's one thing the British soldiers will never forget was narrow water and then shouldn't across the lock to kill English civilians that was bored watching shame on the SAS
The reason they couldn't find the mole is because he was killed during the attack on the police station,he gave the information about the attack but couldn't get away from being part of the attack without being able to tell the police.... The story goes that the original team set to stop the couple had to be changed because one or the SAS had been secretly seeing the female who thought he was a building worker......
That's one of the most intelligent comments I've read on this thread, after reading a myriad of excruciating knuckle-dragging naivety from almost the entire thread.
As a 16 year old my office building in London was hit by an IRA Bomb.....my friend Dave Rathkey was 17 and I dived under a desk,he died 9/11 terrorists got him in the end,lovely guy
As a Nothern Irish citizen the IRA are experts at playing victims, A tactic passed onto HAMAS Even when armed or on recon missions to detonate bombs in a public area they still cried injustice God bless the SAS and all the British soldiers that served in this small part of the UK Oh and Gerry Adams spilt the beans on the Loughall attack. He had a personal vendetta against one of the men. Gerry Adams was leader of their political wing only up to a few years ago
The British spent the last few hundred years marauding around the world killing, raping and robbing. They used concentration camps long before the nazis. Slaughter of unarmed civilians was their preferred method of terror. As the song goes “And you dare to call me terrorist when you know what you have done”. At least the Germans have the honesty and enough honour to acknowledge their crimes against humanity and teach their children about it. The British don’t because they can’t rise to the moral standards of the country that gave us the nazis.
You are so conditioned to being ruled by the English that you have no fight in you. You are like a well trained lapdog that does everything his master says. Maybe someday the English might let you have your independence referendum. Maybe they won’t. In the meantime sit boy sit.
The Royal anglian reg the resident regiment on Gibraltar Island was due to perform a parade for something at the time and this was thwarted before the three could actually detonate what the army thought they had there in the Renault 👍⚔️🇬🇧
They had gestured towards surrender? By making gestures they knew would be taken by the British servicemembers as reaching for weapons and explosive remote controls? The SAS had each and every single reason to assume the three IRA operatives were armed.
This is where things get stupid , 3 families took it to the court of human rights How do known terrorists have human rights ????? How much money was spunked up the wall trying this case ????
The mistake the British Government made was not to authorise the SAS to eliminate all the PIRA High Command. Having eliminated the leadership, the lower levels could have been dealt with - ideally with extreme prejudice.
The reason the PIRA and Sinn Fein were in favour of and agreed to the Good Friday agreement is because PIRA was losing the war against the UK Government and Loyalist's. Whereas both John Major & Blair were in favour of the agreement due to the fact that it would save defence spending
@@Ultrarunnerdadit was another factor yes but it was canary wharf that was the calling of negotiations as there were many more planned and Britain didn't want that on their doorstep and the economic destruction it would have caused!
I still don't understand why this is so controversial the IRA terrorists were actively involved in murdering police officers, army personnel and innocent civillians. Whether they were on or off duty. That was their tactics. Cowardly placing bombs killing random children. These three, in my opinion were legitimate targets as it was known they'd killed many people and (as it subsequently turned out) were planning to kill more. Had the government not stuck to the rule of law and used the same tactics as the terrorists, I firmly believe the IRA would have ceased to exist very quickly. Had the SAS been properly unleashed, those terrorists could have been liqidated and many hundreds if not thousands of lives been saved. My own mother was very close to one of their bombs in Manchester. Fortunately, she was in the Cathedral and unhurt. Many weren't so lucky.
The Irish were on the verge of committing further acts of violence against innocent individuals, but our highly skilled Special Air Service (SAS) intervened and swiftly put an end to their malicious intentions, ensuring justice prevailed. Well done, boys.
@@brendancurran155whilst sitting behind the border like a bunch of school boys 😂😂 Ireland is lucky U.K. isn’t like Russia or china because there would have been no rules of engagement 😊
Yes. Us fighting with one hand tied behind our backs and not allowed to shoot to kill like the Republican terrorists. Yes. You got 18 and Mountbatten and you STILL failed.@@brendancurran155
I saw the British army's own photos from the scene at Loughgall police station in the Intelligence room at Ballykelly Barracks, including some showing the inside of the van (after the bodies had been removed). The entire floor of the van was literally awash with drying blood. It left quite an impression on me.
@@kieran3237 no they shot terrorists who killed and bombed unarmed civilians. Perhaps it was different when the IRA done it . Should of been no yellow card engagement rules their would be nobody hiding in the shadows. Look up innocent it may help.
Freddie the Pervert .. like John McAleese SAS ..Freddie Scappaticci pleads guilty to animal pornography possession West Belfast man widely named as British army’s IRA informer ‘Stakeknife’ gets suspended jail term Freddie Scappaticci at the 1987 funeral of IRA man Larry Marley. Photograph: Pacemaker Wed Dec 5 2018 - 11:40 A man widely named as the British army’s notorious IRA agent Stakeknife has avoided prison after admitting two counts of possessing extreme pornography. Freddie Scappaticci (72), appeared briefly before Westminster magistrates in central London to admit the charges, which related to at least 329 images, including those involving animals. Chief magistrate Emma Arbuthnot sentenced Scappaticci to three months in custody, suspended for 12 months.
I always thought it was ridiculous that the IRA always claimed they weren't terrorists. They were an army fighting in a war. Then when the SAS comes in and does what they do to an army. The IRA and it's supporters cried about it.
Oh yeah, convientiantly forgetting Scotland too was invaded by the English. The people raped and murdered. Was even a rule that any woman getting married had to sleep with the English lord ruling their part. Warrior spirit!!?? Succumbed to English rule then act as cannon fodder for them! Yeah really smart! At least the Irish never give up. And ONLY time Scotland crossed English boarder and took some castles was because they were ked by Irish warriors who came over, same Irish that won Scotlands most famous victory! Brave heart and Bruce my bollox! Lol.
They are what you would call plastic scots men. Born in Scotland think they are Scottish but long to be English literally the worst type of person you could get in scotland a chára.
The original government mistake was to disband the 'B' Specials in the Ulster Police. They had been a source of intelligence on the IRA, knowing at a local level who most of the terrorists were. They were also tough & uncompromising, & knew what their opponents were capable of - which became all too apparent after the political decision to do away with them. This is what led to the Army being deployed in a policing role in part of GB & NI.
The B Specials, the Stormont government's very own Sturmabteilung to call upon to do its dirty work and keep the boot on the neck of the nationalist population. Yea, they were sorely missed alright.
Actually the b specials were a group of untrained thugs ,some,a large majority, released from prison on condition they joined! They fired upon people watching a garlic match in Dublin, at flats accupied by civilians with no warning on several occasions-killing OAPs and children indiscriminately. They opened fire constantly with no provocation. They were thugs, as to intelligence gathering!! What??? They couldn't gather intelligence, were not intelligent enough or in a position to do so! Where do you people get this stuff!
The IRA was beaten by this point but I must say they did lead us a merry dance . It will be interesting if a similar right wing or foreign affiliated organisation develops against the immigration we are having forced upon us now , or supports this and wants supremacy , although they were a small a group , a similar group of ideological Islamic , black or white groups could cause chaos which our now disorganised and depleted intelligence services could not cope with .
Lol - take a trip down the rabbit hole and find out who was really financing who. Some of the British soldiers on the ground got to understand the chess game that was really going on there. Pawns in a chess game, including all the SAS men who were killed there but that no-one likes to talk about.
The Ira was beat. In all the years of the troubles and all deaths of Brit soldiers and all the deaths of civilians the British government would never talk peace with the IRA we don’t negotiate with terrorist they said. Until they caught a boat of the south coast of Ireland with tons and tons of weapons and British thought they had got one over on the IRA. Until they found out 6 boat loads had all ready got through with Sam 7s and RPG s and Semtex each carrying 20 tons then the British shit there pants because they didn’t like the fact the IRA had more weapons then them that was better than there. Because let’s face it the British don’t like it when the playing field is level and not all one sided. They knew the IRA could carry this on for another 35 years only this time they would be way better armed then the IRA showed the British government what was to come for my years. Only this time hitting the British government where it hurt in the pocket. Canarywarf and the Manchester bombs that cost Britain billions and billions then the British government shit them selfs. Amazing they didn’t give a shit about all the British soldiers or civilians that died it was the loss of all that money that made them talk peace. And 911 helped as Americans declared war on all terror. Witch ment no more money from the yanks and the RA didn’t wanna fall out with America. That what brought it all to an end. And glad it did was time for it too end. But 911 saved yer Brit ass from been blown to kingdom come
Sadly on these sites there is the usual predictable infantile insulting emotional outbursts and name calling etc. The IRA were far from beaten at this stage. The British Army could only travel by helicopter in South Armagh and East Tyrone due to the IED threat. War is a two way street and the IRA inflicted several casualties on undercover British soldiers. Sadly it was a conflict that could have continued indefinitely with more deaths of innocent civilians and combatants. The IRA were never going to be comprehensively defeated in the conventional sense. A fact acknowledged by senior British Army officers. Thank goodness for all sides concerned there was a genuine appetite for peace among all sides and that there was compromise.
@@johnroche7541 That's what these knuckle-draggers can't understand: its no wonder the British are hated all over the world with people like these all over social media - and its true that the only way the army could move around in South Armagh was by helicopter: Stinger missiles would have driven them out of South Armagh altogether. Add to that the fact that it took the RUC, UDR, British army, UVF, UFF, UDA, SAS and the intelligence services to fight a group that was, by all estimate,s just 300 men strong. I've lived in the UK for a long time and I've met very few people who talk or behave like the types that always show up on these sites drooling and salivating over violence and killing. I can only imagine what it must have been like for people having to endure them walking around, armed to the teeth, knowing the state would turn a blind eye to whatever they did - which, of course, led to the rise of organisations like the IRA in the first place. its over, but they just can't help themselves. As I said, no wonder they are hated all over the world with this lot as their ambassadors.
I was actually there in Gibraltar when it happened. i was in the royal navy. I was sat in a cafe, in an apartment block called Ocean heights with my girlfriend when we heard bang bang bang bang, Everyone in the cafe thought it was just a car exhaust backfiring at first. Then someone burst into the cafe shouting that the Spanish mafia had gunned down someone at the airport, that was the rumours at first but then it transpired it was the cloak and dagger guys. we visited the spot near the petrol station where one was taken out only and hour or so after the shootings, dont quote me on this but i have a memory of there being a bullet hole in one of the petrol pumps too, It was all a bit crazy.
Joeevandorpe. You mean Gibraltarians, not Spaniards, plus hundreds of foreign tourists. A school full of Children and a bank all within the blast area not to forget a military band.
When I was on the bus to Stafford college in about 1991 it was diverted at Milford. From memory this was due to the IRA assaulting the home of the ex-governor of Gibraltar. I should look the details up.
A friend of mine (EX Army) told me that British Army Intelligence was well aware of every member of the Paramilitaries (on both sides) and could have taken them out at any time, but were not allowed to because of the political/ opinion of the public in the UK /world at this time. He also told be a submarine had been tracked from America to an offshore Area of Northern Ireland and were monitored dropping arms to the IRA. This was in the middle of the 80s and I was prone to disbelief. Now being older and much wiser what he told me makes complete sense.
If this was true how come that Air Chief Marshall Sir Peter Terry and his wife were shot at home in Staffordshire and no-one has ever been charged or the most famous IRA bomber, Patrick Magee came over to England and planted a bomb in the Grand Hotel Brighton and returned to Ireland before it went off ?
Yep - so I believe. Gerry A - lol. Still, you have to hand it to the ASU - just a handful of them: and they still detonated the digger and still destroyed the barracks. You have to give credit where its due - it'd be interesting to know, but we'll never find out, how many SAS were killed in the Barracks that day.
I am an atheist and these problems all seem to relate mainly to religion. The potato famine due to blight caused a huge amount of British resentment but carrying that resentment to the current British people makes no sense. It is like an Englishman carrying resentment for the Scandinavian countries for what the Vikings did. The SAS were justified in these killings. In their mind the terrorists were reaching for a gun or remote detonator. The SAS are elite soldiers not police, they are trained to kill and they did their job and probably saved many lives. The explosives were later found. The families went to court which is their right. What always amazes me is the unsung heroes behind the scenes. The people who gather intelligence and painstakingly track the terrorists. This cannot be a pleasant life working for MI5. Humans are complex social animals but hopefully we will evolve to live together more peacefully. I find this unlikely though.
If you consider power, money, oil, your favourite football-club a religion as well, i agree. Unfortunately people will always find differences between them to divide them into groups.
It had nothing whatsoever to do with religion. Never did - still doesn't. That was an excuse used by politicians for their own ends. The lack of understanding from nearly all the commenters on this video is shocking: I started off by mocking a lot of them but I realised after reading your comment you all genuinely believe what you've been told and you genuinely know nothing whatsoever about that country: and I guess that was intentional otherwise it would have been impossible to justify any of this. Finally - I will say there is NO resentment towards the English in Ireland these days: another lie you're being fed. Anyway, I wish you luck and I hope you'll do some reading about the history of that Island written by someone who is honest and even handed.
Religion!!!! You are NAIVE. It never had anything whatsoever to do with religion. That was the excuse politicians used so they could simplify the conflict and fool credulous and ignorant people like you. Now learn some Irish history before you comment. In fact - learn some history full stop before you comment. I can really understand the phrase 'ignorance is bliss'. You know nothing. Smh - Some people.
In August 2010, Stephen Melrose's parents and sister visited Stormont to find answers about his murder. They were greeted by Ulster Unionist Party MLA, David McNarry, but denied a meeting by both deputy First Minister, Martin McGuinness and Sinn Féin President, Gerry Adams. Speaking to the Belfast Telegraph, Melrose's sister, Helen Jackson, said the refusals of McGuinness and Adams "spoke volumes". She went on to say that: "We feel that, basically, justice was never done. The people who killed Stephen are walking the street, living life, like us. How can that happen? We are just wondering how the system works, that that can be allowed to happen. Stephen was a lawyer, he deserves justice, everybody does. Eighty-year-old Roy Melrose stated: "We just wanted to find out if we could get any answers as to why the murderers of our son were let off. We feel that time heals a lot. We've looked at it that our son is a hero, that helps us a lot, thinking that way. He is a hero. I think there seems to be a lot of forgotten victims."
Add to that many other victims of the state, Thomas "Kidso" Reilly, murdered by the state for getting picked on by a squad of British soldiers. He offered "fair digs" to the most aggressive soldier, who accepted and was put in his place, that soldier then picked up his gun and shot him in the back! You have to remember that grief affects us all, but Catholics never had the state to protect us, quite the opposite.
@@lambhdeargh Exactly. I didn't know about the Thomas Reilly case, but I know that there were many incidents of this type of thing going on that will never reach the British Press and the British state that started this chaos gets to play innocent victims while knuckle draggers like the ones all over the comments thread get to think that an evil terrorist force appeared out of nowhere. The behaviour of many of the soldiers in the British Army led to a lot of the things that they cry foul about.
The Loughgall ambush was as a result of an informer or informers within the IRA (probly high up informer, likely to rid the Republican movement of radicals who wouldn’t be willing to move towards the peace process, the east-Tyrone brigade were much more hardline). Fantastic video overall.. really engaging 🙏🙏
The British Army lost. Today Sinn Féin is the largest political party in both the Republic and Northern Ireland. In London today the SF leader was a guest speaker at a mass rally for Palestine and she will be Taoiseach within the year.
Well the british army was only there to keep the peace so they didn't lose Also wow sien finn or however it's spelt is popular and supports palastine? Wow bro not like half of them are terr*rists
What for? Bravely shooting three people dead until their guns were empty , 3 unarmed people with arms raised? Yeah real brave murdering scum. All the comments here are from people who have no ideas! I suppose bloody Sunday where 13 innocent civil rights marchers were brutally murdered by the paras was right too? They even tried planting stuff on victims!! Priests were shot while trying to tend the wounded. Anything that moved was shot even dogs by these bloodthirsty pricks. Now cause 1 or 2 eventually get charged with murder, rightfully so. You all cry. Young men, women, priests gunned down with no mercy or reason. That's your fuki British army!! If the IRA had been present , they agreed with civil rights organisers to stay away, but if they had been present the paras would've got what they deserved. Easy to shoot unarmed kids and old men and girls. Not so easy when IRA is shooting back!
My Family is Welsh & we have a lot of family members who fought against the IRA. Recently my brother started going out with a girl who’s from Northern Ireland & he went over to meet the family. He instantly realised they were a pro IRA family & that was confirmed when one of the very first things they asked him was about our families military history. He didn’t tell them the truth & played dumb about not really knowing who the IRA even were/are. Well it turns out it’s still completely up and running as they didn’t shut up about it throughout his entire stay & bragged about how all their family were & still are part of it. He’s thinking of knocking the relationship on the head 😂
In 1920 when Ireland was being divided only 2 counties of the 32 were Protestant majority, however the British knew a 2 county state would fail so they took 4 other counties that had a large Protestant minority and made a 6 county state would fail with gerrymandering set up to keep a Protestant majority in control.
Play silly games, win stupid prizes, it seems so silly in retrospect, the “Troubles” were really a bunch of tearaways getting off on violence and extortion, trying to drape themself with a flag. Far more efficient to achieve their stated aims by peaceful means.
I believe at the enquiry one of the SAS was asked why he had fired 13 rounds at the terrorists, he simply replied that was how many rounds were in the magazine.
what a great response. thanks for sharing.
Really so ira members giving the same response to killing British soldiers is OK with you then ..
You do know far more British soldiers left NI in coffins than IRA including sas .
Not to mention two British soldiers who lost their lives as a direct result of the Gibraltar incident
The executioners get executed.
@mikedon5205 are you implying that the ira are better soldiers than the sas?
@kieranprice5496 I'm implying that serious issues like this are not childish dick measuring contests ..
Both sas and ira members died in NI over the years and one thing I can guarantee is that their loved one grieved in the same way
They call themselves an "Active Service Unit". On Active Service you must accept what comes your way. Live by the Sword, Die by the Sword.
They did accept it: 300 active service IRA men against the combined forces of the UDR, RUC, Britsh Army, UVF, UFF, UDA and SAS would have understood full well what they were doing.
@jackspring7709 Didn't stop them whining about a " shoot to kill policy", did it? That one always cheered me right up.😅
@@daveferguson935 Well the british know all about wreaking chaos and conflict and then running to the tv and newspapers whining whenever their targets hit back, so that's a very funny comparison.
@daveferguson935 Well the british know all about wreaking chaos and conflict and then running to the tv and newspapers whining whenever their targets hit back, so that's a very funny comparison.
Correct jack
The brits always cried foul when they were hit
My school had a strict policy on removing graffiti timeously. However for some reason the massive "SAS 3 IRA 0" that appeared on an external sign took absolutely ages to be removed.
We had similar graffiti - dark humour indeed "Bradford, got a bullet in the head for Xmas!" to the tune of a Xmas advert of the day
How fast was the IRA 18. Paras 0 removed .
Colonizers are always so proud of themselves
garbage
Sinn Fein are now the government of "Northern Ireland." the IRA is still active. British Army can't get recruits. Joke's kind of on you guys innit?
I was serving in Gibraltar at the time and remember that they took out the IRA because there was a bomb in a car positioned where they do the ceremony of the keys and there was a kindergarden school at the back of the wall, the SAS saved many a life that day
Your own government enquiry proved there was no carbomb and no guns. They were executed.
Horseshit
Lies lies lies. They murdered 3 unarmed people. They are sir Jimmy savile's mem a bunch of Drunks and Drug addicts scum bags.
Evidence?
Remember, this is not an episode of 24, or an SIS propaganda forum, this is RUclips.
Lies no bomb and not one weapon on either of the 3 IRA Volunteers cold blooded murder carried out by the security forces ! You are a liar
I remember this , the families of the Terrorists wanted to take the SF team to court for murder ........oh the fuckin irony of it
You couldn't make it up.
It is extremely ironic. I wonder how meny of them actually know the warabouts of the IRA who have mysteriously disappeared with there free pardons in there pockets
The presiding judge laughed it out of court
@@davidrhodes7655 presiding judges did a lot they should not have. Ask the Guildford four or the Birmingham six or all those jailed during internment. And the British still couldn’t defeat a small Irish militia of civilians.
@@briankelleher2156 Yeh ok. Triggered little melt 😂
And if Blair had not surrendered in the Good Friday agreement they could have been completely eliminated instead of walking around with "safe conduct" letters in their pockets while British soldiers are persecuted by their own government, a complete disgrace!
Ha ha! You're an utter fool if you believe resistance to British imperialism in Ireland could ever be totally eliminated.
Keep jurking that Toger.. Yet which soldiers were convicted ...
It's twats like you on RUclips that make me wonder how humans evolved into an intelligent life form.@@rassawhelan6045
Loyalist murderers were given the same-get out of jail card!
So? I'm only interested in our soldiers.@@alexanderv7702
Why did you shoot him 18 times? We ran out of ammunition ....
I heard from someone who knew people involved, that the gun jammed and he was unable to reload
@robgreenhill1426 I heard dragons came and everyone had to run. Then a Knight on a bigvwhite horse chased the dragon away. Lol. You people are idiots! The facts are available, look them up.
@@robgreenhill1426 So why was that not mentioned at the inquiry ???
@@robgreenhill1426 you didn't though did you. Walter
British intelligence got to be very good at knowing who was who and what they were up to and where. Plus they had informers on the inside and at senior levels. This eventually saw a reduction in IRA activity.
They also forced people including those with no paramilitary (‘terrorist’) connections to become supergrasses by threatening their families.
Did they fuck ,, show us the evidence.@@philodonoghue3062
@philodonoghue3062 and you know that how ?
Ironic that two of the IRA army council sat in the House of Commons. 14 Int were very good at intelligence gathering in Republican areas of Northern Ireland as well as South of the border
@paddyleblanc ‘back channels ‘ British governments can’t be ‘seen to negotiating with “terrorists” - but they always end up doing precisely that viz Mau Mau in Kenya, in Cyprus, Aden, Palestine Mandate etc etc. A little “perfidious Albion” goes a long way.
“Slipped into Gibraltar unnoticed” apart from the MI5 officer tracking him 😂
According to the official account of the operation, *Savage entered Gibraltar undetected in a white Renault 5 at **12:45* (CET; UTC+1) on 6 March 1988. An MI5 officer recognised him and he was followed, but he was not positively identified for almost an hour and a half, during which time he parked the vehicle in the car park used as the assembly area for the changing of the guard. At 14:30, McCann and Farrell were observed crossing the frontier from Spain and were also followed.
Northern Ireland and all its problems is a lot more complicared than most people will ever know. It goes all the way back to Henry the 8th as the author of Englands most successful plantation. The hate and menace that some Irish people have for the British is carried for generations like a curse on their souls. I am Irish but thankfully never was extreme and am not a hater. Not all Irish people are the same . There have been much trouble in my country.
Brother just keep bringing peace and love that and God are the only things that will bring true peace
Respect to you, I am a British Veteran, served in Northern Ireland, loved the people regardless of their religion i.e. from both sides, most British Veterans would say the same we have a lot of resspect for the people there Protestants and Catholics, a lot of good people... however when you choose to kill and maim and accept children, women and innocent people will die from your hands then you become a legitimate target, I witnessed some atrocities from both sides extremists, I hope Northern Irelandis amuch more peaceful place than when I was there, most of us wanted to stay as the people were some of the best on this Planet.
@@UnexpectedJourney59Eng I was subject to almost daily abuse by the British Army, this is when I was going to school! How do you think the people are going to view you, when you wear the uniform of the country who treat you like scum? I never hated the English, just your government.
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You should try being English with an Irish father lol. All my dad's side still live in Ireland and family get togethers are a minefield lol.
This happened the day after I left Gibraltar on the way to Tidworth , it would be an understatement to say all of us that left the day before were gutted to have missed it. Joys of being a serving soldier at the time.
My cousin was at Tidworth he was in the RCT
Gibralter to Tidworth. What a downer. :)
South barracks to mooltan barracks, what a downer 😂
@@Sidney1WG was supposed to go to Hong Kong after Gibraltar but ended up going to Tidworth as we were told due to it being handed back to the Chinese. Safe to say we were all gutted.
@@ryanparker7258my brother was at Tidworth in the RE. I used to jog past the Shell station daily when our ship was visiting Gib (RN). Left the Royal Navy in ‘86, but got a shock a couple years later when I saw the petrol station on the news about the killings. Andy McNab tells a slightly different version in one of his books.
If you enter the “battlefield” you have to accept the consequences.
Are you an ex Booty ?
100% a lot of British soldiers left the island of Ireland in body bags also.
@@Fran-ct4kb and they accepted it they didn’t bitch and moan and cry shoot to kill orders
We know that. It’s not news.@@Fran-ct4kb
@@billybaxter6333 it’s a reply to your statement, that is all.
In the province when Lough Gall went down, I remember it well. What's not often talked about are the inconspicuous Intelligence-gatherers in the province. Young men and women risked their lives every day, driving, walking and sitting around dangerous places. They listened and watched, and got no glamour or glory. This was how Intel got back and how lives were saved.
It was touts! And Gerry was the biggest!
Job well done boys! Whatever they were paying the SAS guys it wasn't enough
I'd waste provies for free.
@@wingnut71 You couldn't beat snow off a rope, wannabe hard man
@@wingnut71 You'd want to get out of your Ma's spare bedroom first son.
@@kmg474oh there you are. Always a PROVO supporter lurking on any video about the SAS. Just have to trigger the fuck out of them and out they come.
@@wingnut71 do it then ya coward, you think people are going to stand there and let you whack them, get a grp ya clown and get a life watching too many war films you are lol
Very successful operation. How many times did they attack Gibraltar after that 😂😂😂
Well they shot the Brit commander who authorised operation flavious and his wife in the head. They both survived but with horrific injuries. What did any of it solve on either side? Nothing. Absolutley nothing was solved till people sat round a table and decided to talk. It was ALL a waste of life.
@@RebelofIreland the terrorists failed in their objective , Northern Ireland is still British, so yes, it was all a waste…
@@barneymagee3285 llf!
@@RebelofIreland Rubbish. The policy of getting the Loyalist paramilitaries to do the dirty work, and deep intelligence infiltration of the Provos at every level, that is what brought the terrorists to the table. The Brits (MI5) even got them killing their own people as touts when they were completely loyal.
The real story is how the British establishment then treated with Sinn Fein; instead of glorying in a victory and trying to humiliate them, they treated them as equals, ultimately THAT is why there is (relative) peace today.
@@barneymagee3285the north of Ireland is finally coming to were it always belonged. The foreign squatters needs to go back to there homeland.
Just love the way SAS handle terrorist's....No messing about, clean up , job done, get home for a nice cup of tea.
Look at the way the IRA handled narrow water in warrenpoint the biggest loss of life since the second world war. They said I'm Abigail where no amateurs they took the fight to use and they were betrayed by shin the leaders in the political wing of the IRA. And that snake cappuccini
Why did the IRA attack that parachute division because of what they did in dairy to unarm civilians so you live by the sword u die by the sword
Herbert westmacott didn't enjoy his tea
Look up the flagstaff hill incident
@@ChrisCrumlishRobert Nairac became the main course for half a dozen piggies 🐷
Firstly, they were not insurgents, but terrorists. In the south they were little more than bandits, robbing banks and businesses. It's Loughgall in Armagh, not Lockal (or Lock go) Arma, IRA should read PIRA. The only places that the PIRA enjoyed total support were area's totally controlled by them. The vast majority of the wonderful Irish people from BOTH religious divide rejected terrorism as on neither side did they truly represent "the people" as they claim.
Bandits that killed over 2000 British military and caused hundreds of billions of economic damage uk economic
The English brought terror to Ireland.
The Ira political wing had, ( and still have) , massive support from the Roman Catholic population of Northern Ireland.
The Ira wouldn’t have enjoyed so much ‘success’ if it wasn’t for the support of a sizeable minority of Southern Ireland
Don't forget their drug running
My unit was based in RUC Castlereagh and our training sergeant was SAS attached. A really nice lad, paratrooper from Wales. We called him the mountain goat because he was around six foot tall and had these really skinny legs. He taught me a load of new weapons systems including HKs, Walther's etc. His catch phrase was 'even the sass pick up brass'!
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Awwwww that's nice you Occupying M.F. Nobody wanted say if you here, NOBODY.
You need to stay anonymous
That is the best advice I can possibly give you.
And that is what annoys me in modern movies....no one needs more ammo or has to use an enemy weapon. Not so modern but Battlefield L.A. prime example, they have spent so much ammo, get a FOB that has been destroyed but at no point does anyone say "Hey we need more ammo"
@@michaelmcgrattan6091 Why, they commented on a YT vid? What's so bad about that?
They call it a war but cry and attempt to sue British government when we try it like one great operation .
More Brirish soldiers and Security Forces were killed than in Iraq and Afghanistan.
So , how was it not a war ?
Also, the Good Friday Agreement is registered as a Peace Treaty
Between who ?
Ireland and Britain, because they couldnt sign a Peace Treaty with the IRA.
But, now Sinn Fein are the largest party both North and South of the border.
Do you remember the reaction by both sides to the GFA ?
@@experimental9017 you are missing his point , if it's a war why are you trying to convict soldiers for killing the enemy in a war zone, it strikes me that republicans claim its a war when they kill soldiers but want to claim it isn't when their soldiers are killed ? Then its all of a sudden a civil criminal matter, you cannt have it both ways
They also claim to have had all these glorious battles against the SAS (never happened) yet moan about a “shoot to kill” policy??
Has any combatant ever complained about being shot at? No. It’s part of the deal.
The IRA are the original blame culture, they’re responsible for nothing and everything is everyone else’s fault.
Not a vertebra between them.
Spineless.
Amazing how brits cause chaos and conflict all over the world and then squeal like stuck pigs when their targets fights back.
@@experimental9017Because the army couldnt shoot back ,one side war .When they did they started to cry .Sinn Fein 😂tge party of the black Irish ?😂
Prevention is always better than a cure!!!
Danny McCann, he was the one that initiated the ied that was detonated on our patrol on 7.7.87.
He got the end he deserved.
None of our patrol was seriously physically injured, mental injuries however……
shouldent of fucking been there in the first place
You have my sympathies, I hope that you and any other members of that patrol are alright still today, maybe not entirely clear of the memory, but still mainly healthy in both bodily and mental manners
Welch Fusiliers?
Thanks for the work you did here mate. Hope you're all good now.
@@itsnay7382why shouldn't people be in their own country?
All carried out with the knowledge and consent of Mrs T and Co. Christ I wish we had leaders like that these days. Big boys games played and big boys prizes won.
Big boys rules
You silly arse
@@timcubison9832 a lot of big boys got sent back to Britain and buried
I am very aware of that one of my best friends was murdered by PIRA and he came from Ireland and a Roman Catholic
@@timcubison9832 I'm sorry to hear that.
I feel sorry for all victims of the troubles in Ireland but no British soldier should've ever been in Ireland
Well done SAS.
Only problem I can see is you didn't get enough of them cowards.
NO SURRENDER!!!
Cowards... lol.
Average Joe's taking on full time professional soldiers. Yeah proper cowardness. Unlike all loyalist organisations who were helped by English state, MONEY, WEAPONS, INTEL, ESCORTED TO AND FROM MURDERS. etc etc ..
Could not agree more my friend. No surrender
It was very hard to catch the Ira when everyone looks the same plus this was ages ago with pretty much zero technology
Actually, far more SAS, Mi5 and specialist soldiers were killed than IRA.
The comparison in the death toll is very one sided.
No Surrender ? The loyalists rioted when the GFA was signed.
you lot surrendered years ago mate. lol
The SAS rock. Best unit in the goddam world.
Except for the Australian SASR.
@@robhutton6916nope
Don't piss in the swimming pool and moan when you get a mouth full of water
Don't go around the world causing wars and chaos and then squeal like a stuck pig when people fight back.
What?
Your statement makes 0 sense just like the present dirty English occupation of Ireland
You know about pissed in swimming pools then? Figures.
Profound 😂😂😂
There intention was to indiscriminately kill and bring terror to a British protectorate.
They were stopped and killed for their actions.
I have nothing but respect for the SAS who delivered a justice on behalf of Britain to these people.
Arrogantly spoken. You wouldve done the same if Britain invaded and took over your country. They did mine too, and once we finally got independence, they fked us over with sanctions then abandoned us to be taken over by communist radicals we cant get rid of that they supported, and have since fked our country into an oblivion, and pretends we don't exist anymore. And my people wanted nothing more than to be left alone. But the world kept interfering.
The Empire's foundation was built on the subjugation of others. And now we pay for it with our lives. Had you been in my world, idve beaten you to within an inch of your life.
Well that's the simpleton's version of Irish recent history.
@@kmg474 expect nothing less
By British protectorate you mean another part of the world attacked and held by force by the British? Another location for the murder rape and robbery committed by the British empire. Cop yourself on. The British are among the most brutal terrorists ever seen. They killed multiple times more people than the nazis and had concentration camps long before them. Slaughtering unarmed civilians is an acceptable tactic for them all through their history so don’t try take the high moral ground when you know what atrocious war crimes you British have always committed.
Is "protectorate" a fancy name for a colony?
I used to work for a fellow who was heavily involved in the 'intelligence' side of the operations in Northern Ireland. Intelligence gathering was proving to be more than a little difficult, as the senior Republican prisoners that were held in prison, were famously uncooperative, so. an operation was mounted, where the senior prisoners were supposedly being transferred. They were loaded into a helicopter and taken several miles out to sea. They were then blindfolded and questioned again, nobody said a word. Then the first one was pushed out of the door, and they kept their nerve until the second one was ejected. They the remainder became very talkative indeed. What they didn't know, was that the helicopter had flown in a circle and when the prisoners were thrown out, they were hovering only two feet over a nice grassy field. Apart from being traumatised, particularly the ones who had been thrown out, they had not a mark on them.
Brilliant. It would still be a great plan if it was over the ocean. These terrorists didn't give their victims the chance to save their lives
@@JohnSmith-ki2hlyou are definitely some English boot licker who didn't read what the British did in NI
@KBJ58
@KBJ58 You've been watching too many American films !
@@jacquiewalton1355 I am not a particular fan of American films. But as the incident in question happened in the 70s, unless the film you have in mind was released before then, the influence is likely to have been the other way around.
Yes this was a tactic used though you are absolutely wrong when saying they suddenly became talkative! The prisoners were hooded and brought up in the helicopter one by one. Then told to talk or be tossed put. None talked or in fact could have talked as the IRA were operating in units with one unit having g no knowledge of other units names addresses or any other information that would have been useful. The only results from this particular tactic was several IRA men becoming very rich from the British government after successfully bringing compensation cases through the European Court of Human Rights. Your story is embellished somewhat as thus oartictular tactic was only used once on four IRA men , well three, one wasn't even a member. After that it was obviously spread to others who then knew the trick. The IRA were trained in interrogation techniques plus had intimate knowledge of the tactics used as each one arrested was throughly debriefed-so I'm not saying NONE broke, but very few plus whatever information gained was useless because as soon as one was arrested any arms dump they knew off were moved, any other members went on the run until the person arrested was debriefed, either in jail or when released. The most successful tout British intelligence ever had was a 'walkin' - Steaknife, who lived in the same street as I did growing up. To this day noone knows why he did offer his services, though its believed it was because he was beaten in a fight after pestering a girl while drunk in a Belfast club. His 'handlers' however let countless innocent people die, far more than they saved, if they saved any at all. This rat was part of the IRA security squad along with several other touts. They tortured innocent people until these poor guys couldn't take anymore pain or having their families threatened and so admitted being touts. This was largely to cover Steaknife and the others in the security squads touting and was of no particular use to the intelligence services who listened in to this torture and eventual murders of many many innocent people. I'd say from around 8 to 10 years before the ceasefire British intelligence actually ran the IRA, maybe nit for so long, maybe 5 years, it's hard to be exact. They had touts on the army council, gerry Adams was one, the IRA were riddled with touts by this stage, apart from South Armagh and other boarder units who were so against the ceasefire a feud was only narrowly avoided with Adams coming within a whisker of actually being shot dead at a meeting in a bar in the Market area. If he hadn't been removed by his bodyguards he would've been dead, then no ceasefire. Have to say it was actually very clever of the intelligence services to use him in this way. It ended a senseless campaign and eventually brought - a form - of peace to N Ireland. However they still haven't learnt from history. The real ira and other splinter grouos have now come together and rather than loosely lead armed groups of no more than ten or twenty all at each others throats more interested in 'taxing' drug dealers REAL leaders have emerged creating a NEW IRA who are steadily becoming just as dangerous as the old. As they say - Ireland unfree will never be at peace.
Simple..live by bullet. Die by the bullet. A very true saying. 👍
I salute you sas men for eliminating murdering scumbags who were intent on blowing up a car bomb ultimately killing innocent people. Live by the sword die by the sword. No surrender. All lives matter 🙏 ❤️ 💙
How many replacements filled into the ranks of the Provisionals after the high profile slaying of these 3 volunteers? Answers on a postcard....
Even members of the British army who occupied Ireland, state, quite correctly, that Ireland isn't the place where you should be creating any martyrs, yet all these killings served was to do just that.
If you know anything, literally anything at all the Gibraltar operation, it's an operation that should never have gone ahead by the Provisionals. They were rumbled in Gibraltar from at least the previous November.
3 members of the PIRA unit were also allowed to return back to Ireland following the killings.
Not many, but then yank youngsters believe a whole lot of shit about part of their imagined ancestry
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@alexholmes5026 ye as long as they eliminated children and women killers who slaughtered hundreds of innocent victims with there sugar and fertiliser bombs
What about the innocent unarmed civilians killed on Bloody Sunday and in ballymurphy by cowardly British paras. The paras are murdering scumbags. Most of the victims were shot in the back. The paras planted guns on the dead bodies and said they had been attacked by the IRA. They kept lying for forty years until the facts were proven in court. Can’t get bigger scumbags than that.
@@tofu-warrior7948 The British Army who occupied Ireland? You mean the British troops in Northern Ireland, part of the UK? The wiff of a terrorist apologist is rife!
The SAS eliminated far too few of these self declared "soldiers". There should have been braver decisions from Westminster. So much unnecessary suffering as a result.
Remember narrow water
@@OliverDavidson-yr2nd no, I was 1 year old but a good example to illustrate my point - unnecessary suffering.
There's one thing the British soldiers will never forget was narrow water and then shouldn't across the lock to kill English civilians that was bored watching shame on the SAS
@@OliverDavidson-yr2nd Parachute Regiment and Queen's Own Highlanders not SAS. I hope you can find your peace.
@@OliverDavidson-yr2nd The SAS are vs the IRA were
The reason they couldn't find the mole is because he was killed during the attack on the police station,he gave the information about the attack but couldn't get away from being part of the attack without being able to tell the police....
The story goes that the original team set to stop the couple had to be changed because one or the SAS had been secretly seeing the female who thought he was a building worker......
I take it you're talking about JL.
@@ivorlongshot yep
Oh dear. It didn't work out very well for him, did it.
The tout still walks the streets! GA!!
The sas one of the few reasons to be proud in this country
Founded literally by a man called paddy. Your greatest modern warrior was Irish born and reared.😂
David Stirling was Scottish mate
@@Jan-x3r1e british
@Mark-oy9lw absolutely mate. Was replying to Brian Kelleher who seems quite misinformed
I was in Ireland serving in the 90s it was a joke we all should stick together just look at ireland now
That's one of the most intelligent comments I've read on this thread, after reading a myriad of excruciating knuckle-dragging naivety from almost the entire thread.
@@jackspring7709 The typical lefty rant.
@@wodens-hitman1552 Unfortunately your comprehension skills prevented you from understanding that I'm not a lefty.
As a 16 year old my office building in London was hit by an IRA Bomb.....my friend Dave Rathkey was 17 and I dived under a desk,he died 9/11 terrorists got him in the end,lovely guy
Very sorry, Pete.
@@thebronzetoo Thankyou buddy
Sorry for the loss of your mate.
The IRS people reached for something in their jackets and bags. At that point they were fair game.
As a Nothern Irish citizen the IRA are experts at playing victims, A tactic passed onto HAMAS
Even when armed or on recon missions to detonate bombs in a public area they still cried injustice
God bless the SAS and all the British soldiers that served in this small part of the UK
Oh and Gerry Adams spilt the beans on the Loughall attack. He had a personal vendetta against one of the men. Gerry Adams was leader of their political wing only up to a few years ago
Well done to the SAS Rule Britannia from Glasgow, no mercy of the Terrorist, 👊🇬🇧👍😎
The British spent the last few hundred years marauding around the world killing, raping and robbing. They used concentration camps long before the nazis. Slaughter of unarmed civilians was their preferred method of terror. As the song goes “And you dare to call me terrorist when you know what you have done”. At least the Germans have the honesty and enough honour to acknowledge their crimes against humanity and teach their children about it. The British don’t because they can’t rise to the moral standards of the country that gave us the nazis.
Typical colonial answer. You are so proud of the fact the english rule your country. Not much of a fight put up at the time either.
Because you're happy being England's poor, retarded cousin, you cannot understand the Irish having a spine.
You are so conditioned to being ruled by the English that you have no fight in you. You are like a well trained lapdog that does everything his master says. Maybe someday the English might let you have your independence referendum. Maybe they won’t. In the meantime sit boy sit.
@@mob3144 Shut up Prick, British first then and always will be, just saying from Glasgow 👊😎🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
A good day at the office
The Royal anglian reg the resident regiment on Gibraltar Island was due to perform a parade for something at the time and this was thwarted before the three could actually detonate what the army thought they had there in the Renault 👍⚔️🇬🇧
The informer was one of those killed, it's well known. This was a great moral boost at the time.
who was the informer?
Stop talkin shite
Rubbish! The informer is still alive and well from belfast!
They had gestured towards surrender? By making gestures they knew would be taken by the British servicemembers as reaching for weapons and explosive remote controls?
The SAS had each and every single reason to assume the three IRA operatives were armed.
This is where things get stupid , 3 families took it to the court of human rights
How do known terrorists have human rights ?????
How much money was spunked up the wall trying this case ????
Stupid is the word, they are thick irish afterall
Well done to the SAS 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧
The mistake the British Government made was not to authorise the SAS to eliminate all the PIRA High Command. Having eliminated the leadership, the lower levels could have been dealt with - ideally with extreme prejudice.
PIRA brought the brits to there knees that’s why we have peace and there old guard brought the Brit empire to its knees.
And the mistake the i r a made was not to bomb England into the stoneage
@@patkearney9320 source: I made it up
@@borderlord7562 the british response would have been severe.
@@patkearney9320Yeah , and look at your country now ,😅
You know you've not got long to live if the SAS have you on their radar.
whare is capt robert niriac.
He was part of 14th Int not a badged member of the SAS!
@@shaundavenport621 And he was a taig
He was shot 18 times.. in other words they were mag dumped
The reason the PIRA and Sinn Fein were in favour of and agreed to the Good Friday agreement is because PIRA was losing the war against the UK Government and Loyalist's. Whereas both John Major & Blair were in favour of the agreement due to the fact that it would save defence spending
I read that after 9/11 lots of funding stopped from the USA too, this helped bring them to the table. Not sure on the veracity of this info.
@@Ultrarunnerdadit was another factor yes but it was canary wharf that was the calling of negotiations as there were many more planned and Britain didn't want that on their doorstep and the economic destruction it would have caused!
God Bless the SAS and American Special Forces.
I remember how much I enjoyed this at the time. Nice to revisit it.
I still don't understand why this is so controversial the IRA terrorists were actively involved in murdering police officers, army personnel and innocent civillians. Whether they were on or off duty. That was their tactics. Cowardly placing bombs killing random children.
These three, in my opinion were legitimate targets as it was known they'd killed many people and (as it subsequently turned out) were planning to kill more. Had the government not stuck to the rule of law and used the same tactics as the terrorists, I firmly believe the IRA would have ceased to exist very quickly. Had the SAS been properly unleashed, those terrorists could have been liqidated and many hundreds if not thousands of lives been saved.
My own mother was very close to one of their bombs in Manchester. Fortunately, she was in the Cathedral and unhurt. Many weren't so lucky.
They never take prisoners , that's rule
The Irish were on the verge of committing further acts of violence against innocent individuals, but our highly skilled Special Air Service (SAS) intervened and swiftly put an end to their malicious intentions, ensuring justice prevailed. Well done, boys.
Yes and that’s what we did in warrenpoint all 18 of them
Why why why you people never ask the correct questions to excuse western imperialism
shouldn't have been in our country ye colonising dogs you massacred my people
@@brendancurran155whilst sitting behind the border like a bunch of school boys 😂😂
Ireland is lucky U.K. isn’t like Russia or china because there would have been no rules of engagement 😊
Yes. Us fighting with one hand tied behind our backs and not allowed to shoot to kill like the Republican
terrorists. Yes. You got 18 and Mountbatten and you STILL failed.@@brendancurran155
I saw the British army's own photos from the scene at Loughgall police station in the Intelligence room at Ballykelly Barracks, including some showing the inside of the van (after the bodies had been removed). The entire floor of the van was literally awash with drying blood. It left quite an impression on me.
Revenge was delivered shortly after…….the wheels on the bus…..
@@406estate Indeed it was. Before and after. I'm sure we can all be relieved that things are different now.
@@406estaterock of Gibraltar was the best one caught that many bullets and no juggular about .
Then a terroists family crys in court.
@@sayithowitis1brave British soldiers shot unarmed men and woman..
@@kieran3237 no they shot terrorists who killed and bombed unarmed civilians.
Perhaps it was different when the IRA done it .
Should of been no yellow card engagement rules their would be nobody hiding in the shadows.
Look up innocent it may help.
The mole was Stakeknife .Well done 🎉
Freddie scappatecci, head of the IRA security was the mole mate, that’s how deep it ran
Sure wasn't it breadknife?
@@Useaname butter knife
Freddie the Pervert .. like John McAleese SAS ..Freddie Scappaticci pleads guilty to animal pornography possession
West Belfast man widely named as British army’s IRA informer ‘Stakeknife’ gets suspended jail term
Freddie Scappaticci at the 1987 funeral of IRA man Larry Marley. Photograph: Pacemaker
Wed Dec 5 2018 - 11:40
A man widely named as the British army’s notorious IRA agent Stakeknife has avoided prison after admitting two counts of possessing extreme pornography.
Freddie Scappaticci (72), appeared briefly before Westminster magistrates in central London to admit the charges, which related to at least 329 images, including those involving animals.
Chief magistrate Emma Arbuthnot sentenced Scappaticci to three months in custody, suspended for 12 months.
The yanks got involved, thinking they were helping, but extended the troubles longer than should have been.
I always thought it was ridiculous that the IRA always claimed they weren't terrorists. They were an army fighting in a war. Then when the SAS comes in and does what they do to an army. The IRA and it's supporters cried about it.
Those three weren't there for there holidays, after that day they certainly wouldn't be blowing up anymore people
Scots make up 15-20% of the SAS even though they only make up 5% of the U.K. population. Alba gu brath never give up the warrior culture
They publish their nationalities?
Oh yeah, convientiantly forgetting Scotland too was invaded by the English. The people raped and murdered. Was even a rule that any woman getting married had to sleep with the English lord ruling their part. Warrior spirit!!?? Succumbed to English rule then act as cannon fodder for them! Yeah really smart! At least the Irish never give up. And ONLY time Scotland crossed English boarder and took some castles was because they were ked by Irish warriors who came over, same Irish that won Scotlands most famous victory! Brave heart and Bruce my bollox! Lol.
They are what you would call plastic scots men. Born in Scotland think they are Scottish but long to be English literally the worst type of person you could get in scotland a chára.
This myth has been busted so many times it's ridiculous.
@@leehannon1756 give me a refutation it then, if you cant your using a logical fallacy.
The original government mistake was to disband the 'B' Specials in the Ulster Police. They had been a source of intelligence on the IRA, knowing at a local level who most of the terrorists were. They were also tough & uncompromising, & knew what their opponents were capable of - which became all too apparent after the political decision to do away with them. This is what led to the Army being deployed in a policing role in part of GB & NI.
They were violent thugs, and not suitable in a civilised country,.
The B Specials, the Stormont government's very own Sturmabteilung to call upon to do its dirty work and keep the boot on the neck of the nationalist population. Yea, they were sorely missed alright.
Actually the b specials were a group of untrained thugs ,some,a large majority, released from prison on condition they joined! They fired upon people watching a garlic match in Dublin, at flats accupied by civilians with no warning on several occasions-killing OAPs and children indiscriminately. They opened fire constantly with no provocation. They were thugs, as to intelligence gathering!! What??? They couldn't gather intelligence, were not intelligent enough or in a position to do so! Where do you people get this stuff!
They got what they deserved.
The IRA was beaten by this point but I must say they did lead us a merry dance . It will be interesting if a similar right wing or foreign affiliated organisation develops against the immigration we are having forced upon us now , or supports this and wants supremacy , although they were a small a group , a similar group of ideological Islamic , black or white groups could cause chaos which our now disorganised and depleted intelligence services could not cope with .
Lol - take a trip down the rabbit hole and find out who was really financing who. Some of the British soldiers on the ground got to understand the chess game that was really going on there. Pawns in a chess game, including all the SAS men who were killed there but that no-one likes to talk about.
The Ira was beat. In all the years of the troubles and all deaths of Brit soldiers and all the deaths of civilians the British government would never talk peace with the IRA we don’t negotiate with terrorist they said. Until they caught a boat of the south coast of Ireland with tons and tons of weapons and British thought they had got one over on the IRA. Until they found out 6 boat loads had all ready got through with Sam 7s and RPG s and Semtex each carrying 20 tons then the British shit there pants because they didn’t like the fact the IRA had more weapons then them that was better than there. Because let’s face it the British don’t like it when the playing field is level and not all one sided. They knew the IRA could carry this on for another 35 years only this time they would be way better armed then the IRA showed the British government what was to come for my years. Only this time hitting the British government where it hurt in the pocket. Canarywarf and the Manchester bombs that cost Britain billions and billions then the British government shit them selfs. Amazing they didn’t give a shit about all the British soldiers or civilians that died it was the loss of all that money that made them talk peace. And 911 helped as Americans declared war on all terror. Witch ment no more money from the yanks and the RA didn’t wanna fall out with America. That what brought it all to an end. And glad it did was time for it too end. But 911 saved yer Brit ass from been blown to kingdom come
Sadly on these sites there is the usual predictable infantile insulting emotional outbursts and name calling etc. The IRA were far from beaten at this stage. The British Army could only travel by helicopter in South Armagh and East Tyrone due to the IED threat. War is a two way street and the IRA inflicted several casualties on undercover British soldiers. Sadly it was a conflict that could have continued indefinitely with more deaths of innocent civilians and combatants. The IRA were never going to be comprehensively defeated in the conventional sense. A fact acknowledged by senior British Army officers. Thank goodness for all sides concerned there was a genuine appetite for peace among all sides and that there was compromise.
@@johnroche7541 That's what these knuckle-draggers can't understand: its no wonder the British are hated all over the world with people like these all over social media - and its true that the only way the army could move around in South Armagh was by helicopter: Stinger missiles would have driven them out of South Armagh altogether. Add to that the fact that it took the RUC, UDR, British army, UVF, UFF, UDA, SAS and the intelligence services to fight a group that was, by all estimate,s just 300 men strong. I've lived in the UK for a long time and I've met very few people who talk or behave like the types that always show up on these sites drooling and salivating over violence and killing. I can only imagine what it must have been like for people having to endure them walking around, armed to the teeth, knowing the state would turn a blind eye to whatever they did - which, of course, led to the rise of organisations like the IRA in the first place. its over, but they just can't help themselves. As I said, no wonder they are hated all over the world with this lot as their ambassadors.
I was actually there in Gibraltar when it happened. i was in the royal navy. I was sat in a cafe, in an apartment block called Ocean heights with my girlfriend when we heard bang bang bang bang, Everyone in the cafe thought it was just a car exhaust backfiring at first. Then someone burst into the cafe shouting that the Spanish mafia had gunned down someone at the airport, that was the rumours at first but then it transpired it was the cloak and dagger guys. we visited the spot near the petrol station where one was taken out only and hour or so after the shootings, dont quote me on this but i have a memory of there being a bullet hole in one of the petrol pumps too, It was all a bit crazy.
1:48 Incorrectly referred D "Squadron" as just a company.
track suite, beards, long hair ....the boys in town....
SAS the best a man can be.
Yeah the Iranian Embassy says it all...the Brits don't negotiate with terrorists.
SAS are the OG of special forces.
I do love a happy ending.
Keep getting your Thai boy massages so.
It’s easy to be wise after the event. The fact that the scum were unarmed is irrelevant. A good days work.
well said
Pronunciation of 'Renault' was murdered in this video.
Who knows how many innocent Spaniards would have been killed or maimed with that bomb? Government action was equal to the deadly threat IMO.
Joeevandorpe. You mean Gibraltarians, not Spaniards, plus hundreds of foreign tourists. A school full of Children and a bank all within the blast area not to forget a military band.
14th Intel Company spent many man hours gatherung human intellegence which was used by 22 SAS in Gibraltar.
When I was on the bus to Stafford college in about 1991 it was diverted at Milford. From memory this was due to the IRA assaulting the home of the ex-governor of Gibraltar. I should look the details up.
There were NO winners in the troubles .... Only losers, and thousands of them.
Don't mess with the SAS.
A friend of mine (EX Army) told me that British Army Intelligence was well aware of every member of the Paramilitaries (on both sides) and could have taken them out at any time, but were not allowed to because of the political/ opinion of the public in the UK /world at this time.
He also told be a submarine had been tracked from America to an offshore Area of Northern Ireland and were monitored dropping arms to the IRA. This was in the middle of the 80s and I was prone to disbelief.
Now being older and much wiser what he told me makes complete sense.
This is true. The Americans regularly supplied the IRA and laundered money through Macdonald's and other American interests.
@@jablot5054 what kind of Alliance between the U.S. and England is that?
I had also heard that.
@@jablot5054 "Laundered money through McDonalds" ??? Where is there a scrap of evidence for this ?
If this was true how come that Air Chief Marshall Sir Peter Terry and his wife were shot at home in Staffordshire and no-one has ever been charged or the most famous IRA bomber, Patrick Magee came over to England and planted a bomb in the Grand Hotel Brighton and returned to Ireland before it went off ?
They never broke the curse. Thanks to Gerry A, the provos met real soldiers that day.
Yep - so I believe. Gerry A - lol. Still, you have to hand it to the ASU - just a handful of them: and they still detonated the digger and still destroyed the barracks. You have to give credit where its due - it'd be interesting to know, but we'll never find out, how many SAS were killed in the Barracks that day.
Good job
the moral of the story? don`t fuck with the worlds best.
If you play with fire, expect to get burnt.
Think you got mixed up its D squadron
They were good company though.
Live by the sword- die by the sword.
The petrol station in Gib, near the border retained the dents in the pump covers for months afterward. It was a 'result' - SAS 3, IRA/PIRA 0..
Job done
I am an atheist and these problems all seem to relate mainly to religion. The potato famine due to blight caused a huge amount of British resentment but carrying that resentment to the current British people makes no sense. It is like an Englishman carrying resentment for the Scandinavian countries for what the Vikings did. The SAS were justified in these killings. In their mind the terrorists were reaching for a gun or remote detonator. The SAS are elite soldiers not police, they are trained to kill and they did their job and probably saved many lives. The explosives were later found. The families went to court which is their right. What always amazes me is the unsung heroes behind the scenes. The people who gather intelligence and painstakingly track the terrorists. This cannot be a pleasant life working for MI5. Humans are complex social animals but hopefully we will evolve to live together more peacefully. I find this unlikely though.
If you consider power, money, oil, your favourite football-club a religion as well, i agree. Unfortunately people will always find differences between them to divide them into groups.
@@mverbaan3381Humanity is both amazing and a disappointment.
It had nothing whatsoever to do with religion. Never did - still doesn't. That was an excuse used by politicians for their own ends. The lack of understanding from nearly all the commenters on this video is shocking: I started off by mocking a lot of them but I realised after reading your comment you all genuinely believe what you've been told and you genuinely know nothing whatsoever about that country: and I guess that was intentional otherwise it would have been impossible to justify any of this. Finally - I will say there is NO resentment towards the English in Ireland these days: another lie you're being fed. Anyway, I wish you luck and I hope you'll do some reading about the history of that Island written by someone who is honest and even handed.
Beware of old ladies living in close proximity!!!
Religion!!!! You are NAIVE. It never had anything whatsoever to do with religion. That was the excuse politicians used so they could simplify the conflict and fool credulous and ignorant people like you. Now learn some Irish history before you comment. In fact - learn some history full stop before you comment. I can really understand the phrase 'ignorance is bliss'. You know nothing. Smh - Some people.
In August 2010, Stephen Melrose's parents and sister visited Stormont to find answers about his murder. They were greeted by Ulster Unionist Party MLA, David McNarry, but denied a meeting by both deputy First Minister, Martin McGuinness and Sinn Féin President, Gerry Adams. Speaking to the Belfast Telegraph, Melrose's sister, Helen Jackson, said the refusals of McGuinness and Adams "spoke volumes". She went on to say that:
"We feel that, basically, justice was never done. The people who killed Stephen are walking the street, living life, like us. How can that happen? We are just wondering how the system works, that that can be allowed to happen. Stephen was a lawyer, he deserves justice, everybody does.
Eighty-year-old Roy Melrose stated:
"We just wanted to find out if we could get any answers as to why the murderers of our son were let off. We feel that time heals a lot. We've looked at it that our son is a hero, that helps us a lot, thinking that way. He is a hero. I think there seems to be a lot of forgotten victims."
Add to that many other victims of the state, Thomas "Kidso" Reilly, murdered by the state for getting picked on by a squad of British soldiers. He offered "fair digs" to the most aggressive soldier, who accepted and was put in his place, that soldier then picked up his gun and shot him in the back! You have to remember that grief affects us all, but Catholics never had the state to protect us, quite the opposite.
@@lambhdeargh Melrose was murdered by the IRA not the state.
@@lambhdeargh Exactly. I didn't know about the Thomas Reilly case, but I know that there were many incidents of this type of thing going on that will never reach the British Press and the British state that started this chaos gets to play innocent victims while knuckle draggers like the ones all over the comments thread get to think that an evil terrorist force appeared out of nowhere. The behaviour of many of the soldiers in the British Army led to a lot of the things that they cry foul about.
The Loughgall ambush was as a result of an informer or informers within the IRA (probly high up informer, likely to rid the Republican movement of radicals who wouldn’t be willing to move towards the peace process, the east-Tyrone brigade were much more hardline). Fantastic video overall.. really engaging 🙏🙏
Scene from a film shown. 72 Hours, was it called?
The British Army lost. Today Sinn Féin is the largest political party in both the Republic and Northern Ireland. In London today the SF leader was a guest speaker at a mass rally for Palestine and she will be Taoiseach within the year.
Well the british army was only there to keep the peace so they didn't lose
Also wow sien finn or however it's spelt is popular and supports palastine? Wow bro not like half of them are terr*rists
Marxists
Never going to happen sf hated more in ireland now than ever
I was based in gib at the time. Happy days
Play silly games, don't complain when you get silly prizes. We'll done to the 🇬🇧 finest, the SAS
Was that before or after Warren point, I know it was after they got Niraic.
Couldnt have happened to any nicer people
A united Ireland would be an EU borough council requiring the euro and schengen.
And even more ethnic replacement/invasion forced by the echr
Good days work. Gibraltar should be stitched onto the regiments colours.
What for? Bravely shooting three people dead until their guns were empty , 3 unarmed people with arms raised? Yeah real brave murdering scum. All the comments here are from people who have no ideas! I suppose bloody Sunday where 13 innocent civil rights marchers were brutally murdered by the paras was right too? They even tried planting stuff on victims!! Priests were shot while trying to tend the wounded. Anything that moved was shot even dogs by these bloodthirsty pricks. Now cause 1 or 2 eventually get charged with murder, rightfully so. You all cry. Young men, women, priests gunned down with no mercy or reason. That's your fuki British army!! If the IRA had been present , they agreed with civil rights organisers to stay away, but if they had been present the paras would've got what they deserved. Easy to shoot unarmed kids and old men and girls. Not so easy when IRA is shooting back!
What did they think would happen? Civilians with guns VS the worlds most elite special forces 😂🤦♂️
My Family is Welsh & we have a lot of family members who fought against the IRA. Recently my brother started going out with a girl who’s from Northern Ireland & he went over to meet the family. He instantly realised they were a pro IRA family & that was confirmed when one of the very first things they asked him was about our families military history. He didn’t tell them the truth & played dumb about not really knowing who the IRA even were/are. Well it turns out it’s still completely up and running as they didn’t shut up about it throughout his entire stay & bragged about how all their family were & still are part of it. He’s thinking of knocking the relationship on the head 😂
The British didn’t ‘rule’ Northern Ireland. They were democratically elected to govern by the residents of Northern Ireland. On several occasions.
Neither belonged there
In 1920 when Ireland was being divided only 2 counties of the 32 were Protestant majority, however the British knew a 2 county state would fail so they took 4 other counties that had a large Protestant minority and made a 6 county state would fail with gerrymandering set up to keep a Protestant majority in control.
Play silly games, win stupid prizes, it seems so silly in retrospect, the “Troubles” were really a bunch of tearaways getting off on violence and extortion, trying to drape themself with a flag. Far more efficient to achieve their stated aims by peaceful means.
That's probably the worst comment I have read on these posts.
IRA weren't peaceful. The ones on Bloody Sunday were.
A well done job
By cowardly scum shooting unarmed tourists