CLOVE Mythbusting | Interactions with Agents & Game Mechanics
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- Опубликовано: 24 мар 2024
- VALORANT are about to release their new controller agent Clove, and in this video I go over some of the interesting interactions they have with game mechanics and other agents, like whether or not you can revive yourself while suppressed, and if Brimstone's Stim Beacon, stacks with Clove's Pick me Up!
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It would be so badass to revive yourself and defuse the spike when you're the last one standing... And die...
I think the time that it takes to defuse the spike is the same as the time window in which you have to kill someone so sadly even if it was allowed it would still be impossible
@@masteroox time to defuse is 7s the window is 12s so technically possible
you can only res urself if you are the attacker/you defend spike from being diffused so this isnt possible as defender/diffuser
@@hellooooo880this only applies to a 1v1, if it is a 2v1 or the clove has another teammate, res urself is still possible
Well someone need to attempt it in a realmatch
So I think Riot has actually confirmed that you only get your free ult orb after death when the round ends, basically making it such that if you have 6/7 and you die you can't immediately self rez.
Does this apply to all agents or just clove. If it applies to all agents then reviving other agents with sage will result in no ult too.
@@Ei_Shogunjust clove
@@Ei_Shogun I'm almost sure I have seen people gain ult when dying before Sage res. Weird interaction to have it different in both scenarios. Particularly because this means Cove will also not get her ult when she would get revived by Sage, which doesn't make any sense.
@@peugas13 yeah I was just making sure they didn’t change it for other agents
@@peugas13i think it was changed from on death to on revive for everyone because i’ve noticed not getting my orb on other agents until next round or sage rez
The revive after spike is planted will make things vety interesting in a 1v1 clutch situation
No not really,if you die and you try to res they'll just chase you down the secondbyour out of dismissed your dead.clove is weak af
@joshuarenard3147 10 seconds till spike explodes and clove uses her ult she wins that easily because either the enemy sticks it and gets killed or has to chase down the clove and still lose the round
in the video you cant use your ult in a 1v1, the game won't let you
Watch again bozo@@noface7286
@@joshuarenard3147 it only takes a single classic right click to kill somebody, its not weak at all
1:46 i think cloves revive state is only achievable if the round hasnt reach the end state. So even if the attacker puts the spike down, shes revivable cuz for that round to end the spike must be defused , but defender clove being killed means end state is reached
Clove is they/them btw
@@abudgie6909 🤓
@@abudgie6909 who cares
@@abudgie6909surely everyone will comm "they are low" instead of "shes low"🙂
@@cjfizz7679 nobody cares about decency?
The Phoenix ult doen't really cancel Clove's ult. If you kill phoenix ult during the 12s but then your teamate kills the real phoenix after and you still have your timer up, it counts as a damage assist and you get revived fully
what about 1v1 situation? where clove plant the spike, and phoenix kill clove.. and clove ult, and phoenix can just run back for 2/3second and then ult to run&hide again... thats the counter.
@@ilzafadilatulhaq1780I don’t think he would have time to run because of her speed boost
it is worth noting that when you're 1 ult point away from ult, before you die, you will gain it in the next round (unlike immediately when you die).
Thanks for making this
Cant wait to see the new 7k clips
You can actually have an 8k with Phoenix lol
@@Little_Guil technically yeah but generally no
@@Little_GuilNo, that doesn't count as a kill
@@Little_Guil nah, because that doesn't count as a kill on the leaderboard
so its possible to get 7 kills in 1v7 against sage and clove...
Yyooo, think of normal 5 kills add one of phnx and then 1 of sage's rev and then 1 ofclove. Total 8 kills
@@newnoticedthings4963killing phoenix' ult doesnt count as kill
@Julian-xz6nu still its kinda 8 kills u just get 7k
@@1Tea6 but i think there is also a way for sage to res twice in a round. I think on fracture there are like 4 ult orbs, and she can place/defuse spike and get 3 kills. So it is possible to get an 8k now in a normal match (or 9k if we count phoenix ult)
@@snoxh2187 even on other maps, if sage takes 2 orbs plus kills you and you revive, plus your sage revives someone that enemy sage kills, is enough to get the 8 orbs needed get the 8k. that means in the perfect world on fracture, 11 kills is possible in spike rush
thanks man your videos are the best keep it up
Very detailed and nice to watch ! Thanks for your hardwork :)
I like that they made it so that shirt changes from hello to hell when ulted
I stand corrected, Clove's meddle does 90 decay to allies and enemies. Which is weird as this is the only ability that doesn't reduce damage against allies
no, 90 to both ally and enemy . the video u saw had enemy not having shields
Maybe kj doesnt have a sheild
@@daredevilxrageah that's fair, I assumed it was less for allies since its the same with other abilities
“You’re not super fast with the stim and pick me up” literally running like they’re neon
basically for ult as long as the round isn't officially over, you can still use it. as long as a banner doesn't pop up or the clock above doesn't reset you should be chilling
Finally another mythbusters on clove
Very good info keep this content up
Really good info for new players
2:40 make sense, because the round end triggers
Round end triggers when attacking enemies are dead and the spike haven't planted
When defending are dead
When spike explodes
4:34 You get that orb after dead to avoid this kind of situation.
5:40 I would like to see situation where spike is planted and attacking clove dead the defender immediately press f to get the gun so that she respawn with classic lmao
The way the clove ult thing while the spike is still up works is that the spike is counted as a player in the games code. This is what makes the round go on after the whole team is dead.
From what I've watched the ult seems to be the weakest ability in Clove's kit. Doesn't seem to be worth 7 ult points as the window after resurrection is very narrow to take a kill, kind of like a reverse phoenix. Everything else seems to be balanced.
She is woman😊❤
the vulnerable ball exploses after 1.1sec so it's better to throw a bit higher so it explodes mid flight to avoid missing people because of elevations/boxes
you can res in any situation where the round wouldn't have immediately ended after your death e.g. spike still needs defusing before round is over
I noticed Clove's ult point is only added to the ult at the start of the next round. SO if you die and NOT use ur ult, the next round it will be added to the ult points. That's why sometimes Clove gets their ult at the very start of a round when nothing has really happened for them to get the orb.
You CAN revive during a 1v1 but only on attack if spike is planted. Found that out yesterday
hope ur feeling better
that sen classic looks fire :)
What will happen when you die and the enemy steal your vandal and you revive yourself? Your gun will come back in your hand?
It’s in the video
Just watch 5:31
Answered at 5:45 👍
Same thing that happens when u get revived by Sage
What about can clove ult in iso ult?
Can you do a video of just all cloves voice lines and ult voice line because I think it is cool to hear what I'm going to hear for the next 200 years 😊
Thanks for the video Kanga, really useful for jumping straight into the agent when they release.
One more thing, can you check whether the smoke recharge timer resets when you die or do you get 2 smokes when alive and 2 smokes after dying?
I'm pretty sure it's just continued from when you were alive, so the cooldown doesn't reset or anything and you don't get extra smokes, they'll just recharge as usual
She
"they"? riot is adding 2 agents?
@@KangaValorant she
2:20 It's easy to understand. You can revive yourself before end of the round. When spike is NOT defused yet, round is still going, so you CAN revive yourself, when you lost 1vs1, round is over (when no spike planted), so you CAN NOT revive yourself.
So clove molly, gekko/raze nade/any molly and fade pull toghether is just op.
yeah when the last one from a team dies and there is no other win condition(spike explotes) it codes round won so u cant revive
this may be unintentional and code so that when clove dies with ult the round isnt marked as won
Clove after losing and not being able to Rez :
Can't Use That 😡😡
it's not just when it's a close case clove just doesn't get orbs from dying
What would happen if:
We are on attacker site (1v2):
Raze vs gekko and clove
Gekko, uses wingman to plant the spike
Gekko dies of raze
Clove with ult dies of raze and the wingman is still planting (theoretically wingman should die too)
So can clove 3sec cooldown for ult keep the wingman alive for plant
And if not used - will it die imidietly or after the cloves cooldown wears off, or it will not die at all? Its gekko mechanic tha I would abuse as much as i can (if not understood i can say it again but Kanga - thats a good myth)
Ideally, Wingman should instantly die the moment everyone on Attacker's side dies. Therefore, if Wingman is still planting and Clove dies mid-plant, victory goes to Raze and the defender side because the match's end-state has been achieved (kill all Attackers before they plant spike).
@@sizedoesntmeaneverything4157 but look. If clove had ult for that 3 sec, the person behind that agent, could think if they want to res or no. Which means the wingman could still plant
@@mudxiej_ No, wingman instantly dies when all players on his team are dead. At the exact same time, all players are dead so the round ends and Clove is unable to revive.
edit: on his team*
@@sagetarus1 colve could res when the enemy is defusing so I'm thinking about that
@@mudxiej_ That's not how the game is coded to work. The moment a game-end state is reached, the match simultaneously ends regardless of if someone could res or not.
W info
wait, can you get an 7k now?
Imagine a comp- Clove, phoenix, sage, jett and kayo
Also kinda 9k is possible now
8 k
Lmao tru
7k was always possible in the beginning of the game. Sage can revive twice in a round so 7k was always possible
Theres a reddit discussion on this.
7 kill ace
9 actually
Kayo and pheonix
@@aranbiswas7527No, that does not count as a kill
bro was leaking the clove accent
lmao
If you use pick me up and then get hit by a KAY-O knife your screen bugs out and you turn to a random direction really fast
At his rate Riot should freaking start a 1 year Valorant course for people who are new to the game. Absolute number combinations that you need to be aware of before playing an agent
Riot added a CoD Zombies perk into Valorant.
🎵Who’s Who🎵
Clove actually doesn't gain ult points immediately on death, instead gaining them the next round if they died. This makes me wonder if they'll make this a universal change, since it really only affects Sage res, which I guess would be a tiny nerf?
With most abilities in game you would think nearly everything about the new agent would be self explanatory then you come to these comments and now you realize most people don't even understand the game or can't read
please check if the orb thing before dying is right or not because you do not get an orb if you die from fall damage or teammate util
Ah I thought that might have been the case but I didn't have enough accounts to test that, I'll probably check when Clove goes live
from other creator's play testing they don't get the ult at 6/7 when they die. you have to have it when you die
@@novathedude ah thats a shame thought it might work like that
Clove would be insane for playing solo.
You forgot Jett's Cloudbust in the Smoke Time section.
theoretically a 7k is now possible. kill 3 people on enemy team have enemy sage revive then kill sage and the revived person then kill clove and have her use her ult then kill her again
5:13 'You're not super fast or anything'
Proceeds to turn into a Ferrari lol
he definitely didn’t see the same clip we saw 😂
but you can time the meatal to deploy in the air above the target
nice
The spike thing and how attacker clove can revive but not defender clove in 1v1. Think of it like this.
The game treats the spike as another attacker player when it's planted. Clove can only ult really when she still has teammates which for attacker Clove is the spike.
The defender clove though is truly alone, hence why she can't ult.
Extra note: I think it's also the reason why if everybody is dead, the pov switches for attackers to the spike. It's the last remaining teammate on field.
or just think of it as if you were a normal agent and you died would the round end or keep going? if it would keep going then you can ult
shes allright
She is woman😊
isnt she non bi
@@Erwin-Boss
@@hyperise5605 she 😁
@@hyperise5605 they're a game character lil bro it's really not that deep
Bro didn’t include harbor’s smoke on the smoke comparison 😢
They weren’t lying about a duelist kinda controller, I’d say definitely a B or A tier agent
Bro said "for some reason" when the defender died with the spike active, that's because the round has ended when all defenders die - when an attacker dies the round is still active until the bomb is defused - this is simple logic.
Also the test of killing you for the last orb was skewed, the Raze changed to Clove's team just before the shells for her nade killed her, meaning she doesn't get an orb because her teammate killed her - you only get an orb if an enemy kills you.
I still cant believe this game has fall damage
Does the decay go through any agent abilitys like cypher cage, or harbor wall, ect.
most of the pro players and streamers already showed off all of her abilities and what they can do during the testing xD (keeoh is a good example)
I’m wondering what happens if you tried to Clove ult after dying in Iso ult. You lose your abilities similar to KAY/O knife but with knife you lose the suppression after dying, so idk if it works that way for Iso ult too
Ty
Glad to know the easiest counter is just taking clove's gun on death
Some neon main is gonna play clove with brim stem lol
the fact that clove can double res in a team with sage means we will now be able to see a 7k😳 will they add a new kill sound i wonder
I really thought she could defuse after dying, but apparently not.
if gekko uses wingman on spike, gekko then dies, and clove dies after. Does wingman then get killed even though clove can use their ult?
4:31 I don’t think any agent gets ult orbs when an ally or themselves kill them? So maybe try this again but Raze is on the enemy team
imagine 1v1 situation and you half the spike and killed clove and you needa diffuse immediately but clove just revives and kills you. that’s gonna be annoying
Clove should have a revive in a last man 1v1 in anycase(considering it is her ULT)
when you die missing one ult orb it doesnt give the ult orb till the next round
Do u change your pfp to the latest released agent❓I remember when I first discovered u, u had gekko pfp
Yea he does
@@Jupiter02 that's cool man
Cyphers smoke is shortest
Basically its just combination of brim phoenix reyna😂
using ult in a 1v1 would be pretty dumb, if you revive, your opponent can just run away until you die
What is you have 6/7 orbs and you die as clove but get revived by Sage ult do you get the orb? And then if you die you have the ult?
6k was hard enough. NOW ITS TIME FOR 7K
Now a 7k is possible
Can people shoot the Reyna dismiss thing when you ult?? In the trailer it looks like the Reyna is trying to shoot at it so I was wondering
Nah you can't shoot it
Outlaw, now her Q.. Riot really trying to combat the Light shield META lol
If I buy a Sheriff before dying, will I be able to use the Sheriff after reviving with my ult, or will I still get reset to a Classic since sidearm weapons don't drop when you have a main weapon.
If you die as clove and revive, does the timer continue when ulted by iso? If so, can clove die mid teleportation to iso's ult?
2:43 Imagine if that wasn't the case: Even if you're on Defense as Clove and you die, you get another life to defuse the spike... only to die again😂😂😂
What happens if you die does the range of the smoke base it on where you di3d or who you are spectating?
4:08 that means the 8k ace is possible
Only 7K, one of those 3 lives is part of the initial 5
the 7k is possible on fracture , lets say sage has ult , and u kill all the team , sage revives one and u get 6 killz , then if sage takes all 4 orbs and kills all ur teamates they'll have their ult ready @@frost9681
actually 8k is possible (kill 3 teammates - > kill clove -> sage revive clove -> kill clove - > clove self revive - > sage or clove gets rest of the kills and all the orbs - > kill clove (or sage if clove got the ult) -> revive clove again -> kill the rest@@frost9681
but if they have a phoenix too then it will be 8k @@frost9681
@@frost9681it's probably because of the delusional "they" pronouns some people think she has and therefore consider her to be multiple people (in this case 2) so 8k
Not being able to use ult in a 1v1 seems like a bug tbh
Wait Phoenix’s ult is actually a good counter to her ult since if clove revives herself phoenix can ult as soon as she sees him to waste her cooldown time
If you kill clive with a weapon that has a finisher and she revives, how does that work
So we've seen that when you die at 6/7 you dont get to ult, but what happens when sage revives you after you die at 6/7? Do you get the ult and get to have a 3rd life?
Do ur smokes refresh like omens inthink 45 second after you died
Reyna and brim trains together
After 9 months
Clove😅
AYO??
👍
If you use your ult and then use your q on a enemy and your teamate kills that enemy, does that count as a assist that can make you revive for real ?
think of this, clove overheal is just temporary, when sage heal you it will last till you die.
okay but what if you have a kayo on your team downed in their ult does the round end when you die or do you get the chance to resurrect? also a teammate in deadlocks ult seems like youll definitely have the chance to revive if you get knocked as clove since its not a confirmed death until it reaches the end
KAY/O instantly dies when all other allies are dead. I imagine with the same situation as the spike, you won't be able to rez once he gets knocked as he'll instantly die and the round will be lost. However, Kanga did not seem to test (or be able to test) what would happen if something happened that would normally end the round, but you are already did with the cooldown ticking. For instance, dying before KAY/O and then him getting knocked.
So for your KAY/O example, I'd say it's a good question and if it's not instant loss then it depends on the order and times of death. To be simple though, it's probably instant loss either way and Clove is just locked out of res if not used while viable.
As for Deadlock's ult, you most definitely can self res during it as your teammate is still technically alive and could even escape it naturally (through blockage) in theory.
2:12 How does this affect the finisher animations of the skins? Because usually the animation is played when the last player dies, even if the spike is not defused yet. Does the finisher appear after the clove ult timer ran out? Or doesn't it appear at all?
great videos btw, I'm super hyped for clove
Interesting question....
WHO TF CREATING MYTH DUDE I AINT GOT ANY CHANCE TO PLAY YET
they? that might make it a tad bit confusing for callouts
when is going to be able to recruit?
something i wanna know is if you die in an iso ult can you revive yourself or because its suppressed you cant use it in time?
you can but your weapon will drop and you can't pick it up during the dismiss part
@@ZCatt You can pick your weapon up just not the spike. It automatically gets added to your inventory when you res, just like with Sage res. In the trailer they move away from their body and still have their vandal
@@frost9681 not if you die from iso ult
Wht abt cyphers cage will it track clove when clove is in ult