ONE OF A KIND! Oliver 1650 Terra Tire Tractor Working in the Field
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I'm going to be seeding a new hay field soon, and wanted to go over it with the Brillion cultimulcher. They do a great job of leveling the soil and leaving the firm seedbed that alfalfa likes. My 1650 hasn't done much in the last couple years, so it could use a workout, plus it doesn't leave much for tracks in the soil. Tune in to watch it work and hear some of the back story of how it came to our farm and this unique tire option. It is truly a one of a kind!
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I know you do your own painting, but do you do your own stunts?
Yes. I've been on fire, nearly crushed by a wagon, and I'm still married.
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@@Ham68229 😂. This might be Discount Chris as far as anyone knows
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Your history and provenance with that tractor not only adds to its monetary value but more importantly its historical value. You’re a great storyteller which is why I watch your videos. Thank you so much.
Thank you!
If only all tractors could talk and give their story! Has to be awesome having a 1 of 1 tractor!
I know what you mean. I've been told they would drive this 1650 to the tractor pulls in Manchester Michigan and pull it. It would be awesome if someone out there has pictures of it from back then.
Love that you found all the history on this tractor. Very interesting history. Another good video in the books. That tractor and story would make a great magazine article!
I feel like there's a hint in this comment. 😂
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@@ThatOliverGuyChris what makes you think that?😂😂😂😂
A big footprint leaving hardly any foot print at all. I'm sure it looks great sitting next to Herman like a little brother. Charles City IA Museum is definitely on my bucket list.
Wow what a story, one of one. I can imagine investigating and figuring all that out had to be a holy crap moment. And your Dad bought it. Great looking 1650, thanks for sharing!
When the build card came in the mail and I looked at those codes, I told the wife, the rent just went up on that tractor!. I might have been shaking just a little bit.
Ha when you waved, I waved back and I said to my husband, ‘that’s stupid he can’t see me’
I love the explanation of the tires, that’s the first thing I said, ‘those tires are huge’. Great video😊
LOL Thanks! The drone was close enough I could have grabbed it. I bet that would have hurt.
beautiful and unique, looks really tough with those float tires
Great story. I've learned alot from watching your videos.
Glad to hear it! Thanks you!
Awesome All Around, Chris! Such a Great Story!!! Your Dad would be thrilled with this one! 👍👌🎉
He must have known its history. Our long time mechanic thinks we sold it, but the build card says it was shipped to Munith, which is near where this farmer was. I've been digging through old invoices to see if I can find anything and have so far come up empty.
@ThatOliverGuyChris ..omg. could imagine coming up with the original bill of sale yet for a 1 of 1 tractor. That may be asking for a bit much. Great story Chris
Being 1 of 1 would make driving it a real treasure bro, putting it back to how it came out of the factory must fill you with plenty of pride too. Enjoyed listening to your history on it too. Safe travels. Ken.
Thanks Ken
Back in the 60's and 70's my uncles neighbor had a 1650 fwd in Richmond, Maine. Didn't know it was such a rare beast.
There were enough FWA Olivers in my area that I didn't realize they were so rare for the longest time.
I’ve the been to The Floyd County Museum twice, Mary Ann was a very nice person
One of one, pretty awesome. Nice tractor Chris.
Thanks 👍
G'day Chris love the 1650 and great video mate
Chris, you're blessed I don't live nearby because you'd have to put up a electric fence to keep me from being your best bud with all those Oliver's. I'd love to see them all personally. 😂
LOL. I had posted another response, it mentioned something about Ross and trespassers, and it must have been offensive, because I can't even pull it up now. I hope I don't ban myself from my own channel! LOL
You are the Jay Leno of Oliver tractors. Even if it is worth $40,000,000, you own it, you drive it. Those 1650 gas tractors had a great sound. A vacuum advance unit should be a NAPA item. I believe the amount of advance can be adjusted by an allen wrench thru the vacuum hole.
I'll do some checking, but I thought parts weren't available for the Holley.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I just went to the Accel Holley site and they show a vacuum advance unit for the old Mustangs (v-8) I truly believe that the vacuum advance unit would be the same. We sold a ton of ignition points and condensers for the Oliver Holley distributor. Our retail was about 1/2 to 1/3rd cheaper for the same Holley points. No one ever questioned 6 or 8 cylinders. I truly feel that the Holley distributor was made so 4-6-8 wire distributors were dictated by the points cam and the cap. The old If it works and we can adapt it to multiple engines why change the basic distributor parts. They might have also changed the weights and springs. I installed the NAPA performance weights, springs, and nylon stops on all of our Chevy 350 V-8 trucks in the oil field to get the timing advance to come in quicker. For those trucks that had oil lease roads where they basically idled in and then drove on gravel roads the early advance by a few degrees cured a lot of problems. Nothing radical but just a touch earlier degrees.
Quite a story. Glad you found out and got her back they way it should be.
Gas $98. A good time, level field, awesome video and great story. Priceless! Thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it
Good morning Chris that's pretty cool history of that old tractor
Thanks!
Great job as always! You are a very lucky person to have a 1 of 1 tractor and you didn't know you even had it.
I thought i was pretty lucky having a 1650 FWA. Every time I dug deeper, it just got better.
The tractor looks awesome with the terra tires! You guys look like you could use some rain.
It's getting dry on top, a shot of rain wouldn be nice at this point
Beautiful tractor.. great story. Could probably walk on water.
I've done some guestimated math, and it should float.
Almost missed this video, Chris, fill them tires with "rim guard", will smooth out your ride plus gives you ballast which won't rot out your rims. She sounds really good for an old gasser Chris. Great video as always, cheers :)
It would have to be rim guard, they're tubeless.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Had an old JD3010D and a Farmal 706, the Farmal had fluid, the JD didn't... the Farmal rode so much smoother. Both had wheel weights but for a smooth and better ride with the ballast, rim guard is the only way to go. Might be pricey but, worth the cost. :)
Thanks for all the detailed information. I've been impressed with your talent to fly the drone and run equipment and not miss (except for around 7 minutes, lol). Thanks for everything.
Yeah, I had a few misses this time around. 😂
Loved the video and the history. Glad you went through it and restoration looks great. See you later.
Thanks 👍
Surely a special tractor, the 1650 would be a nice addition to a persons fleet, if parts were easily available. Nice sound with that gas engine, I do enjoy watching and hearing this one run. Thanks Chris, I hope you have a wonderful Sunday!
Thanks Dan!
Awesome tractor ❤
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1650 was mom and dad big tractor for many years love the sound of them
Awesome Story!
Glad you enjoyed it!
my uncle's favorite tractor was his AC 200, but he loved his Olivers, (16-1900) series. as a youngster, I enjoyed riding with him while plowing, discing, cultivating, etc. on those orange and forest green machines. the fact that these machines are not museums pieces but able to look new and still doing the work they were designed for, is a testament not only how well built, but the skill and craftmanship of the farmers who cared enough to restore them. great job Mr. Losey👍
Thanks!
Chris, the 1650 Oliver looks good, love the history of the tractor as well. Thanks Michael
Thanks!
I just love that 6-cylinder gas engine under load sound!
That’s some neat history, beautiful 1650
Thanks!
Thanks for the video and story Chris it was awesome.
Thanks!
I think you're right about that steering! She looks well worn! Nice tractor Chris, my uncle had a 1650 and it had a steering issue as well!
That is one special tractor.Good job.
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What some great history to a great tractor. Truly one-of-a-kind! It's always a good feeling to burn up some old gas and replace with new, and to hear how much better they run.
I just started using rec gas this year, and the tractors I have put it in I have been able to turn the load jet in a half turn or so. I don't know if that's enough to offset the higher price, but I'm going to just go with the idea it does. LOL
Thats a really cool story and tractor
What an amazing story and a truly rare birds 1 of 1! Amazing! Glad you have it and share the story of it, Chris!
Thanks!
Every time I see these big floatation tires a wonder how well they’d drive over deep snow. I always enjoy the history and back story on these tractors. Thanks for the video.
One of the stories I heard about this tractor was about snow. They took delivery in January of 67, and in March of that same year a late season blizzard came through and dumped a couple feet of snow. Today it seems like everyone has a snowmobile, but back then, almost no one did. A lot of people were snowed in, but they drove this 1650 to town for supplies because it would stay on top of the snow enough to get through all the drifts.
@@ThatOliverGuyChristhat is cool!
That’s super cool man I’m rebuilding an 1850 with my son the Perkins was blown so we are repowering with a 12 valve Cummins. Keep on the cool videos Chris
A 1 of 1 that's Kool. Especially the story that goes along with it. It sounds really good pulling.
A one of a kind beauty right there, your lucky to have it and be in the place you are to use it, you sure know your stuff about her that for sure, love to hear about that research you done on her.
Thanks! Every time I found out more about it I was as giddy as a school girl. LOL
Fantastic tractor and story!
Fantastic job! I woud venture to guess that the 1650 gas was the most produced 4 digit tractor oliver built. Down here in Ky.due to our small farm size evey time you turn an oliver rock over a 1650 appears.😅 So to have 1 of 1 of so many is truly remarkable.
There's lots of 1650s up here too, but I'd say it's closer to an even split between gas and diesel.
That machine looks kickass!
That's a pretty cool tractor Chris. Sounds and looks amazing.
Thanks!
My steering on my cockshutt does the exact same thing, but its a 1962 super570 with the 339H
That was a cool bit of history
Thanks Murphy!
What is a nice farm tool you're pulling behind that. It is doing a great job
With how wet it has been here in Central Minnesota we about need those tires just to harvest small grain at this point. If only tractors could tell us their stories.
We've been wet, but not like you guys. Now we're actually getting to where we could use a rain to help finish the crops out.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I wish I could send some you way and out to Wyoming then!
My dad's OC6 came from an onion farm in Vermont. It had wide pads on it. I think it was used to pull an onion harvester. I just got it and his OC4 cleaned up for a show in northern Pennsylvania next weekend and we are hoping to have at least 40 Oliver and Cletrac crawlers. Interesting history on the 1650. That is a cool looking machine
I also have a OC-6 from a vegetable farm that had wide Oak wood bolted to the tracks for floatation! Kinda cool looking for the floatation in the MUCK! Mine happens to be a Diesel, is Yours Diesel or Gas? Good Luck at the Show next weekend! 👍
@mikekalsem5507 it's a diesel also. The OC4 had 30 inch pads for use in a peat moss bog. That one actually has a dealer sticker from Saginaw Michigan
@@jamieebersole6755Oliver Diesel Power!
@mikekalsem5507 the OC4 is a gas though
Nice Skipper there Chris😂
Thank you!
Beautiful tractor
Thanks!
That is a super sweet ride, be proud of that one! Any thoughts on how rare an 1850 FWA propane would be?
I don't have production info by fuel type, so I could only guess. It can't be many. Id say in the single digits.
Cool story Awesome tractor
That's a fine looking Oliver is it from munith area great vid my friend Chris
Yes. Lacerne Dixon bought it new. I saw Gene last weekend and he was telling how Lacerne bought a tractor and White was doing a zero interest deal, but they had to put a lien on it to do it. Gene said Lacerne said forget that, I'll just write a check. LOL
Chris, if a guy wanted to add the external hydraulic control valve like on that Cockshutt 2150, would that be plumbed like the loader you did for Allen?
No, it's a little different, but easy. There's steel line that goes from the housing to feed the remotes. Take that line out, run a hose from the housing port to your external remotes, then return the pressure line from the external valve to the port in the remotes. If the external valve has a third line to return low pressure oil, there's a port to return to reservoir by your right foot. If the 2150 has 3 point hitch with the internal valves then it is exactly the same.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris okay, would be something I may consider doing to the 1900 to add a few remotes
@@kylechrist you can have up to four, just like on that 2150. I picked up an extra for Herman on eBay. That will make 3 on him.
Didn’t skim all the comments. Idea for vaccum issue why not hide a vacuum ball some where until the diaphragm can be sourced. Just n idea. Great video as always
Great idea
it sure runs sweet ;;
That rec gas really makes them run nice
She’s a Beaut Clark!!
Where did you source the rims? Were you able to get them off the AC?
I had bought a set of rims off a fertilizer truck at an auction, as well as some tires for $600. Later at a show I talked to a guy that had converted a 1950 to terra tires and he had to make up centers and the rear adapter ring. I was lucky as he had made an extra set and sold them to me. I was in the process of restoration when a fellow Oliver collector got ahold of me, he knew where the original rears were. A turf farmer had bought the Allis from the original owner, and when the economy tanked in 2008 he sold the Allis to a collector that had been trying to buy it for some time. When AC collector came to get the 220, he brought different rear wheels so he didn't have to mess with overwidth and left the original rears behind. I was able to buy them, but the adapter plates were missing. With some more help I was able to track down the Allis collector, and he had the adapters and the front wheels and was willing to sell them. I bought the adapters, but the front rims had been altered so they could fit the 220, so whether I used the rims I had or his rims that he was quite proud of, I was going to be welding in new centers. I went with the rims I already had. So the rear rims and adapters are original to the tractor, but the fronts are not.
Love the tractor, but I sure wouldn't want to buy any of those tires new! 😳😳😳😳😳😳
You and me both! I don't remember now, I mentioned in the video, but it would be around $15k for all 4.
Sweeeet......!!!!
Another great Dad story, what tractor is older , this one or Herman?
Herman is older, by about a year.
What was the last tractor you guys sold and what year?
It was the White 6125 that I have on my farm. The farm bought that in 1997, we closed in June of 1998.
Wha was the horse power on the dino?
60ish
67 when it was running right.
Great story and only one built which makes it even more interesting. Did you manage to find the original rims for it or are they custom made?
The rears are the originals. I had bought others to get the project done when a fellow Oliver fan found out who had the originals. I found the fronts, but they had been altered to fit the Allis 220 and the owner was pretty proud of them. Either way I was welding in a new center, so I went with the rims I had bought at an auction.
Thanks for sharing
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Would it float? The 1650 is light enough it might!!
By my estimates, yes, it would float. My feet would probably get wet though. 😂
Random comment
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I got a 1655 cock shut will the Waukesha diesel direct injection easiest on fuel but you can blow the head gaskets out of every time yes it's a 1974 the 1650 before that drop the valve and bent the pushrod when it was a year old. That's why I lick my John Deere tractors today LOL
To each their own.
Beautiful tractor
Thanks!