Hope you all enjoy images from the Museum.Comprises of locos, rolling stock, shunters, railmotors, steam, carriages and ofcourse the famous Dorrigo Station.
Bloody shame, the railway isn't what it use to be, i drove a 47 class when i was 14 ,it was used as a bank engine to get the goods train up tumulla hill, then uncoupled at Wimbledon then went back to Bathurst, the driver let me drive it into the loop and back to the station, loved it, thank you driver , you have given me a childhood memory I'll never forget 👍👍
My partner and I had a 2 hour personal tour with Keith Jones in December 2020, arranged by our AirBnB host in Dorrigo. The only request was that we make a 'donation' to assisting them. This video seems to show the worst of the decay except the steam locos briefly resplendant in their used oil preserative coating, after the important brass bits have been removed to prevent pilfering. We saw lots of railway heritage that would have been cut up, junked and lost for ever. We saw cranes, carriages, locos and even a special tank carrier plus tank that were is reasonable order, plus volunteers labouring away reroofing carriages, waterproofing and some restoration. Huge earth works are gradually expanding the level area, with the excavation done free in return for clean fill used locally. Keith was generous with his time and deeply committed to a dream that exceeds potential resources. He reminds me of two members of the Citroen car club who had the largest collection of old and classic Citroens and I have known through the course of 50 years and 17 Citroens. They are absolute enthusiasts, not businessmen. One lost many of his cars in a bushfire. Much like the Zig Zag Railway at Bell. The other has some very rare Citroens including 2 x Traction coupes, a fully restored and RHD converted SM, a GS birotor and many Tractions in a paddock similar to some of Dorrigo rail stock. He at least had a number of large sheds. When we left Kieth we made a $50 donation. Then I has a rush of blood to my head because I was impressed at the genuine enthusiasm to prevent rail heritage items disappearing. I offer Keith $100. He declined. "$50 is enough support and appreciated." I am sure that if the same level of Government support that was put into Thirmere Rail Museum was made over a 5 or 10 year period, with a maximum of 10% for future 'special acquisitions', plus some bureaucratic concessions, like a modest car park (+ overflow parking along the road or in a paddock) - both Dorrigo and the state would have a great asset for the future. You need both the enthusiast plus a businessman..... AND - less bureaucratic misadentures/////////
You got conned, Keith is a con artist and a thief, he should be in goal, he ripped of millions of other peoples money, used for his own personal gain and has used your donation for his own purposes !!
@@aussienscale He declined my offer to double the donation.... I have seen it before... people with an obsession who lack the resources... I choose to see a sad vision un-realised. Not a greedy one.... Unless we are inside Keith's head will will never know. It was not Keith's fault the restored rail link down mountain was washed away and with it a key component of the viability. Flood has drained many resources. Sometimes life conspires against out dreams. Recently we attended the 30th Steamfest at Thirlmere. Fabulous weekend. $10s of millions of government money made it a reality. Zig Zag lost their dream too.... bushfire this time. I had 21 backers for my own dream in 1990-1993, Only the one investor profited considerably. All the rest of us lost $1m in total - close to $3m in today's terms. Some of those who lost the most are my closest friends over 3 decades later....
What a horrible sight to see so much rust and decay. Nothing has been restored. I used to be a member of this museum until it became obvious it was going nowhere. It will never open to the public, and no train will ever run on the Dorrigo branch line again.
4:37 in take another look this is one of over a dozzen cars that have been cosmetically restored in the last 14 months so you cant say the museum hasnt done anything .........besides save the worlds largest railway exibit collection.
Some classic locos and rolling stock there - would love to see them restored. As a young boy growing up in southeast QLD and northern NSW in the 70s and 80s I have fond memories of seeing (and somewhere, photos of) 42-class locos hauling the Brisbane Limited on the standard-gauge track around Vulture Street and South Brisbane, 44-class locos hauling the Gold Coast Motorail around Murwillumbah and the Tweed Coadt hinterland. I also remember being quite disappointed when boxy 422-class locos started replacing them on these services, as to me they lacked the elegance of the "streamliners".
Great video tour, however, is it sad, pathetic, heart breaking or just downright disgusting? Many of the locomotives arrived at Dorrigo in fair to excellent condition, some were still near or in working order on the premise that they would be restored and used for heritage workings or static display etc. Many donated these engines and other rolling stock in good intention to what was perceived as a "good cause" only for them to end up like this. One of the sadder stories of NSW rail preservation. Should I be sad, angry, or bewildered at seeing them rotting away like this? Thanks for the video.
Quite clearly you dont have any clue whats been going on up there this vidio showes recently cosmeticaly restored rolling stock yet you fail to see what the museum is achieving thats what i think is pathetic, is that you are so blind!
@@barryphillips7327 i dont think you quite understand the magnitude of what this museum is acheiving, no its not just money i wpuld go and visit befor you be so quick to judge the museum.
@@adriankingston4338 it’s still a waste and what else can you say ? Rusting and destroyed historic trains going to the rust grave yard , sad that there’s no future for this history, sad no efforts at all to preserve Hoarder
Thanks for the memories i worked trains with many of the locomotives shown in your great little video it's a shame to see such a mess maybe the people running the show ran out of money?
Quite sure this "Adrian Kingston" guy is actually Keith Jones (the guy who built the """museum"""), who spends all day googling "dorrigo museum" and responding to people calling him out for essentially letting these locomotives rot.
Got a question for ya dennis, have you ever heard of the great Barry scrapyard in england ? Well if you have then you would know that the locos and rolling stock in dorrigo are in mint condition compared with what came out of that junk yard and 90% of the salt air rotted hulks that came out of there have been running for decades, non of thoes locos were covered in oil and were sitting by the sea in salty acidic air and in some cases longer than what our locos have been in dorrigo so its fair to say that we have every chance of restoring any of our exibits to working order with far less work than what the barry engines needed.
I dont think Dorrigo has their collection under control, id say not much of the trains could be saved back to operational condition. Dorrigo is more of a train graveyard than a future museum
Many of these items are decaying faster than its possible to restore them. The line to the coast has been closed for decades and is a prime example of this. None of the steam locomotives with expired boiler certificates are ever likely to raise steam at Dorrigo again. Better to donate to a worthy and financially viable museum or send to Sims for scrap. With the current state of the line to Glenreagh, I don't know how you would get them there.
What would you do if you had that place? As for me, I'd simply start building industrial roofs over the tracks with locos and rolling stock, just to keep them out of the sun, wind and rain.
Man, I'd be surprised if even one of these locomotives made it back an operable state. Dorrigo is not the right place to store machinery out in the open, and certainly not for decades on end. You may as well have scrapped them, quite honestly. They serve only as a reminder to the inevitability of time, and how all things become decayed and forgotten.
No one is seeing the good side about having all this still. I mean yes its sad seeing all this in a bad state but dorrigo saved all of these locomotives and rolling stock. If not they would of been scrapped along time ago. Yes 3813 is in pieces but its there. At the end of the day dorrigo is good because they saved all of this NSWGR history
Not really, I've read a lot of the paper work surrounding this and it basically boils down to one person and his mate securing the land for themselves by first taking over the project in it's infancy by appointing themselves as being in charge ,relying on the naivete of the first group of enthusiasts, . In the meantime the state government paid out a lot of money to see it up and running, but it appears that most of the monies gifted were simply used to buy more locos, And keep one person in the style he assumed he was allowed to. Several things will happen in future, the State government will demand that the site be cleaned up (waste oil and asbestos everywhere) and a commission of enquiry as to why money gifted by the state was not used as intended . It also needs to be mentioned that only once did a train operated by the museum ever run on the tracks, and that was done illegally almost 40 years ago. there is no hope for the stuff there now .
A true Australian tragedy.. most of these locomotives will never see, well.. locomotion again. I have nothing against Keith, if it wasn't for him these locomotives wouldn't be here, however I question which of the two was the better option, them getting scrapped, or them rotting away as they are now. It's like the "delusion of free choice" thing that became a meme format, both are different options but result in the same thing; the locomotives never seeing the open tracks again. I saw another video that documented Dorrigo in 2018-19 and while some things had been done, overall it was such a small amount that it felt nothing had been. Wooden rolling stock with massive boards and planks bolted to the sides to keep the wood from bowing in the middle due to the underframes rotting away, others worse to the point Keith even admitted there was no hope of saving them. Locomotives permanently stained by oil in what has now become a poor attempt to preserve them, 3813's once still green bolted tender now just rust with mere speckles of the fantastic green she once wore. All relics of a hope, a vision that will never come to fruition. It has been 30 years and even the government offered to help get the museum on it's feet but pulled out after Keith would not identify where the money would go. Dorrigo is the Barry scrapyard in an alternative reality, the unfortunate outcome of a desire to save as much as possible but only "in the moment" without a clear view for the future and the finances to do so. Please. The "museum" has been in this "open to the public soon!!" state of limbo for thirty years. Please just admit it won't happen. The museum cannot rely solely on donations and volunteers. If the museum has any hope of getting the finances, contact Transport Heritage if they will help or get something presentable going and open the doors. It is the only way I see the museum ever becoming what it was meant to be.., a museum.
The museum has been offered grants and help before, but this would have meant becoming more democratic, transparent, and rational. This will never happen so long as KJ has control. I am also certain Transport Heritage NSW would be able to help, but again, this would require selfless interest.
@@superwombat Indeed.. at this rate I'm wondering if it'll happen at all.. most of these locomotives are likely well beyond the stage of operational restoration and even cosmetic is debatable at this point. I get the feeling much of it will be scrapped or tossed when KJ passes away. Whether it's either auctioned off, thrown out or some past memebers start filing lawsuit claims there's likely not much left that can be saved, if any. It's just.. sad. So many beautiful locomotives all left to rot due to one mans greedy "preservation" pipe dream.
It was like that in 1999 and nothing is going to change. One day the owner will pass away like we all do. What then, sold for scrap or bought by others. Restoring old locos cost astronomic amounts of money and also la our to do it. Would love to see the line reopened for tourists and those of us who love railways.
@@frogleygeorgina2976 what, so I could help out??? You see when people make silly suggestions like yours perhaps you should consider where the person lives. Obviously your not a thinker. It has been like this for 40 years. It's not a museum it a collection of locos that simply get covered in oil to stop them from rusting.. Well at least they aren't cut up, It's a one man band that divided a town
The museum has been restoring rollingstock over the last 14 months plus another steam locomotive was saved only last month, portland cement N°5 wich the museum had to go to victoria to go and get it and take on a truck to dorrigo to join its sister engin N°6. So ues the museum is always doing things!
@Lachlan Smith yeah but it would be still sitting in that paddock if the museum didnt buy it mate you think what you like mate, befor you know it all of Chris Richards remaining locos and stock will end up in dorrigo too when the shit hits the fan dorrigo comes to the rescue mate with no help from you either .
This is sad, like a grave yard None of these love,y old trains moving on a track So they are deteriorating Sad, There’s quite a few that should be running now
So sad to see that nothing has improved in all the years I had holidays on the mid north coast just waiting for something to happen, time they put there hand up for help from other museums to try and save some of them before they turn to dust.
@@raygbrown55 yes thats true but you havent seen the progress made in that time and when 9 out of 10 people are armchair enthusiasts like the 9 out of 10 making comments here it takes the dedicated few a long time to acheive our goals
Exactly. Which is what most museums have. Things that actually work, unless a dedicated static display. Look at the steam museum in Toowoomba. Not all that old really but things run. They did not waste money. They got it up and running. It even joins the main line for trips. Downs Steam and Tourist Railway. Check them out. I have no vested interest, but it makes Dorrigo look like Dad's Army. No rusting junk or "oiled over" locos at Toowoomba Museum. Only 5 dollars to get in too. Bargain.
Whilst the 42 and 421 class are General Motors Corporation engines of US design they both differ in appearance because they are a separate class of diesel engine. The 42 class were withdrawn in 1983 around February of that year and none got to be repainted in the Candy stripe livery after overhaul. They entered service in NSW in 1956. Introduced in 1965, the 421 class lingered on until January 1987 and that is the reason why 42102 is painted in Candy as shown here. One 421 managed to get painted in the Tuscan Reverse colour scheme in 1979 but was unfortunately scrapped at Simsmetal Mascot in January 1991 along with 42110 in the original colour scheme. The 42 class has grooves at the base of the nose and the 421 class doesn't. The 42 class has more ventilation grills on the side and the 421 class has a combination of grills and extra paneling which make it less streamlined looking than a 42 class in my opinion. However, a 421 class looks better at the front with no grooves at the base of the nose but this class of engine was notorious for emitting sparks and starting lineside fires in the NSW Southern Tablelands. Cullarin Range - Ilabo/Gunning/Breadalbane those sorts of places.
Hahahahaha mate here's a list of the items sent from Thirlmere to dorrigo ......aahhheem ... *1880's vintage 12 wheel pullman car with clerestory roof. *1870's vintage 6 wheel steam loco tender with grease fed axle boxes. *Bogie shunting steam loco tender LO34. * Brand spanking new standard goods Wampu tender tank replica that was ment for 5461. *Over 140 box trailer loads of thirlmeres spare parts and tooling. *Express passenger steam locomotive 3813 the only cardiff built steam locomotive left in existance. See what ever thirlmere doesn't want ends up being saved from scrap by dorrigo hahahah...........send it to thirlmere your funny hahaahaha! 😄👍
Not a museum. A hoarders possessions. A graveyard of trains and of other peoples dreams. Terrible waste. Mostly scrap value only. It took over 10 years and millions to restore the prized loco 3801. Who will pay for these ? The line to the coast is closed. These objects will never move again. Tragedy.
How hard would it be to crowd fund a semi tanker of Tuscan red and an industrial sandblasting unit? That display is a greedy obsession, not an interest in railway history.
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Bloody shame, the railway isn't what it use to be, i drove a 47 class when i was 14 ,it was used as a bank engine to get the goods train up tumulla hill, then uncoupled at Wimbledon then went back to Bathurst, the driver let me drive it into the loop and back to the station, loved it, thank you driver , you have given me a childhood memory I'll never forget 👍👍
Tis a grand scrapyard. Sims will enjoy the nostalgia when Jonsey carks it.
My partner and I had a 2 hour personal tour with Keith Jones in December 2020, arranged by our AirBnB host in Dorrigo.
The only request was that we make a 'donation' to assisting them.
This video seems to show the worst of the decay except the steam locos briefly resplendant in their used oil preserative coating, after the important brass bits have been removed to prevent pilfering.
We saw lots of railway heritage that would have been cut up, junked and lost for ever. We saw cranes, carriages, locos and even a special tank carrier plus tank that were is reasonable order, plus volunteers labouring away reroofing carriages, waterproofing and some restoration. Huge earth works are gradually expanding the level area, with the excavation done free in return for clean fill used locally.
Keith was generous with his time and deeply committed to a dream that exceeds potential resources.
He reminds me of two members of the Citroen car club who had the largest collection of old and classic Citroens and I have known through the course of 50 years and 17 Citroens.
They are absolute enthusiasts, not businessmen. One lost many of his cars in a bushfire. Much like the Zig Zag Railway at Bell.
The other has some very rare Citroens including 2 x Traction coupes, a fully restored and RHD converted SM, a GS birotor and many Tractions in a paddock similar to some of Dorrigo rail stock.
He at least had a number of large sheds.
When we left Kieth we made a $50 donation. Then I has a rush of blood to my head because I was impressed at the genuine enthusiasm to prevent rail heritage items disappearing.
I offer Keith $100. He declined. "$50 is enough support and appreciated."
I am sure that if the same level of Government support that was put into Thirmere Rail Museum was made over a 5 or 10 year period, with a maximum of 10% for future 'special acquisitions',
plus some bureaucratic concessions, like a modest car park (+ overflow parking along the road or in a paddock) - both Dorrigo and the state would have a great asset for the future.
You need both the enthusiast plus a businessman..... AND - less bureaucratic misadentures/////////
The Dorrigo Steam Railway Museum is really a scrapyard.
@@danielwright5901 Actually they saved most of the collection from becoming scrap metal in pieces
You got conned, Keith is a con artist and a thief, he should be in goal, he ripped of millions of other peoples money, used for his own personal gain and has used your donation for his own purposes !!
@@aussienscale He declined my offer to double the donation....
I have seen it before... people with an obsession who lack the resources...
I choose to see a sad vision un-realised.
Not a greedy one.... Unless we are inside Keith's head will will never know.
It was not Keith's fault the restored rail link down mountain was washed away and with it a key component of the viability. Flood has drained many resources.
Sometimes life conspires against out dreams.
Recently we attended the 30th Steamfest at Thirlmere. Fabulous weekend.
$10s of millions of government money made it a reality.
Zig Zag lost their dream too.... bushfire this time.
I had 21 backers for my own dream in 1990-1993,
Only the one investor profited considerably. All the rest of us lost $1m in total - close to $3m in today's terms. Some of those who lost the most are my closest friends over 3 decades later....
@@stephenberry1205 Suggest you look up his history and what he has done with donated money !
What a horrible sight to see so much rust and decay. Nothing has been restored. I used to be a member of this museum until it became obvious it was going nowhere. It will never open to the public, and no train will ever run on the Dorrigo branch line again.
4:37 in take another look this is one of over a dozzen cars that have been cosmetically restored in the last 14 months so you cant say the museum hasnt done anything .........besides save the worlds largest railway exibit collection.
Oh hello Adrian,I thought I’d see you here.
@@thatonec_set3730 👋😌
The graveyard of a train hoarder. It’s surreal. Literally the end of the line.
Yea its a shame he needs to give up some of the collection to other organisations so it can be preserved not go to dust like it is
A hoarder, yes.
Some classic locos and rolling stock there - would love to see them restored. As a young boy growing up in southeast QLD and northern NSW in the 70s and 80s I have fond memories of seeing (and somewhere, photos of) 42-class locos hauling the Brisbane Limited on the standard-gauge track around Vulture Street and South Brisbane, 44-class locos hauling the Gold Coast Motorail around Murwillumbah and the Tweed Coadt hinterland. I also remember being quite disappointed when boxy 422-class locos started replacing them on these services, as to me they lacked the elegance of the "streamliners".
Dorrigo Railway Junkyard
A great collection I remember working on most of those locomotive s what a shame no cover
Great video tour, however, is it sad, pathetic, heart breaking or just downright disgusting? Many of the locomotives arrived at Dorrigo in fair to excellent condition, some were still near or in working order on the premise that they would be restored and used for heritage workings or static display etc. Many donated these engines and other rolling stock in good intention to what was perceived as a "good cause" only for them to end up like this. One of the sadder stories of NSW rail preservation. Should I be sad, angry, or bewildered at seeing them rotting away like this? Thanks for the video.
Agree, a tragedy
Quite clearly you dont have any clue whats been going on up there this vidio showes recently cosmeticaly restored rolling stock yet you fail to see what the museum is achieving thats what i think is pathetic, is that you are so blind!
@@cathycastleton this guy hasnt got a clue what hes saying but you agree !
@@barryphillips7327 i dont think you quite understand the magnitude of what this museum is acheiving, no its not just money i wpuld go and visit befor you be so quick to judge the museum.
@@adriankingston4338 it’s still a waste and what else can you say ? Rusting and destroyed historic trains going to the rust grave yard , sad that there’s no future for this history, sad no efforts at all to preserve
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I love this place. Great video! Thanks!
Thanks for the memories i worked trains with many of the locomotives shown in your great little video it's a shame to see such a mess maybe the people running the show ran out of money?
Quite sure this "Adrian Kingston" guy is actually Keith Jones (the guy who built the """museum"""), who spends all day googling "dorrigo museum" and responding to people calling him out for essentially letting these locomotives rot.
Hahaha another child that hasnt been to the museum and hasnt seen the place with his own eyes.
Oh by the way keith wouldn't waist his time arguing with people like you hes got far better things to do believe me.
@@adriankingston4338 ok Keith
@@Thebibs soooo what have you contributed to rail preservation, im guessing absolutely nothing.
Got a question for ya dennis, have you ever heard of the great Barry scrapyard in england ? Well if you have then you would know that the locos and rolling stock in dorrigo are in mint condition compared with what came out of that junk yard and 90% of the salt air rotted hulks that came out of there have been running for decades, non of thoes locos were covered in oil and were sitting by the sea in salty acidic air and in some cases longer than what our locos have been in dorrigo so its fair to say that we have every chance of restoring any of our exibits to working order with far less work than what the barry engines needed.
I dont think Dorrigo has their collection under control, id say not much of the trains could be saved back to operational condition. Dorrigo is more of a train graveyard than a future museum
Criminal negligence, these are all historic with a story to tell they need saving.
What about the Garrett at Forbes, or has been shifted too?
Many of these items are decaying faster than its possible to restore them. The line to the coast has been closed for decades and is a prime example of this. None of the steam locomotives with expired boiler certificates are ever likely to raise steam at Dorrigo again. Better to donate to a worthy and financially viable museum or send to Sims for scrap. With the current state of the line to Glenreagh, I don't know how you would get them there.
Graeme Forssberg No Mate they will be running quite surely They would’ve been scraped without Keith Jones
@@rino6711 You can blame the local council there for delaying allowing them to build a car park and other facilities to get the museum in order
RJL customs.You are surely dreaming
@@marcus2944 if the local council were stupid enough to build a carpark im guessing that Keith Jones would shit his pants
@@rino6711 give us some of the shit yr on will ya mate
What would you do if you had that place? As for me, I'd simply start building industrial roofs over the tracks with locos and rolling stock, just to keep them out of the sun, wind and rain.
Man, I'd be surprised if even one of these locomotives made it back an operable state. Dorrigo is not the right place to store machinery out in the open, and certainly not for decades on end. You may as well have scrapped them, quite honestly. They serve only as a reminder to the inevitability of time, and how all things become decayed and forgotten.
I think your confusing your own life with the museums objectives !
@@adriankingston4338 I think objectives is a strong word. Haha
@@TheMatadrum of course you would. You have no idea mate
@@adriankingston4338 turn off the internet, walk outside, have a look around and get a bit of a reality check, bud.
@@TheMatadrum mate im a member of the museum i know a bit more than you ever will !
No one is seeing the good side about having all this still. I mean yes its sad seeing all this in a bad state but dorrigo saved all of these locomotives and rolling stock. If not they would of been scrapped along time ago. Yes 3813 is in pieces but its there. At the end of the day dorrigo is good because they saved all of this NSWGR history
Gordon Byrnes _Railways Agreed Mate We will see the Trains again soon
Ma man !!! 😌👍
Not really, I've read a lot of the paper work surrounding this and it basically boils down to one person and his mate securing the land for themselves by first taking over the project in it's infancy by appointing themselves as being in charge ,relying on the naivete of the first group of enthusiasts, . In the meantime the state government paid out a lot of money to see it up and running, but it appears that most of the monies gifted were simply used to buy more locos, And keep one person in the style he assumed he was allowed to.
Several things will happen in future, the State government will demand that the site be cleaned up (waste oil and asbestos everywhere) and a commission of enquiry as to why money gifted by the state was not used as intended .
It also needs to be mentioned that only once did a train operated by the museum ever run on the tracks, and that was done illegally almost 40 years ago. there is no hope for the stuff there now .
What's the music called ?
A true Australian tragedy.. most of these locomotives will never see, well.. locomotion again.
I have nothing against Keith, if it wasn't for him these locomotives wouldn't be here, however I question which of the two was the better option, them getting scrapped, or them rotting away as they are now.
It's like the "delusion of free choice" thing that became a meme format, both are different options but result in the same thing; the locomotives never seeing the open tracks again.
I saw another video that documented Dorrigo in 2018-19 and while some things had been done, overall it was such a small amount that it felt nothing had been.
Wooden rolling stock with massive boards and planks bolted to the sides to keep the wood from bowing in the middle due to the underframes rotting away, others worse to the point Keith even admitted there was no hope of saving them.
Locomotives permanently stained by oil in what has now become a poor attempt to preserve them, 3813's once still green bolted tender now just rust with mere speckles of the fantastic green she once wore.
All relics of a hope, a vision that will never come to fruition.
It has been 30 years and even the government offered to help get the museum on it's feet but pulled out after Keith would not identify where the money would go.
Dorrigo is the Barry scrapyard in an alternative reality, the unfortunate outcome of a desire to save as much as possible but only "in the moment" without a clear view for the future and the finances to do so.
Please. The "museum" has been in this "open to the public soon!!" state of limbo for thirty years. Please just admit it won't happen. The museum cannot rely solely on donations and volunteers. If the museum has any hope of getting the finances, contact Transport Heritage if they will help or get something presentable going and open the doors. It is the only way I see the museum ever becoming what it was meant to be.., a museum.
The museum has been offered grants and help before, but this would have meant becoming more democratic, transparent, and rational. This will never happen so long as KJ has control. I am also certain Transport Heritage NSW would be able to help, but again, this would require selfless interest.
@@superwombat Indeed.. at this rate I'm wondering if it'll happen at all.. most of these locomotives are likely well beyond the stage of operational restoration and even cosmetic is debatable at this point.
I get the feeling much of it will be scrapped or tossed when KJ passes away.
Whether it's either auctioned off, thrown out or some past memebers start filing lawsuit claims there's likely not much left that can be saved, if any.
It's just.. sad.
So many beautiful locomotives all left to rot due to one mans greedy "preservation" pipe dream.
Although the trains could be cleaned up and repainted as static exibits and only a few of the locos would be operational
Wow!
I'm a train and I approve this video! :D Choo choo!!!!
so much work to do. is every thing the same gauge? can a paint company make a donation? thanks for the show.
If you call the museum and speak with keith jones im sure you can arrange a donation to the museum wich would be greatly appreciated 🙂👍!
Yep 👍 You can just call the club
Shocking State some are in, why are they even there ? They'll all turn to dust in the next few decades.
It was like that in 1999 and nothing is going to change.
One day the owner will pass away like we all do.
What then, sold for scrap or bought by others.
Restoring old locos cost astronomic amounts of money and also la our to do it.
Would love to see the line reopened for tourists and those of us who love railways.
@@Steven_Rowe Then join!
@@frogleygeorgina2976 what, so I could help out???
You see when people make silly suggestions like yours perhaps you should consider where the person lives.
Obviously your not a thinker.
It has been like this for 40 years.
It's not a museum it a collection of locos that simply get covered in oil to stop them from rusting..
Well at least they aren't cut up,
It's a one man band that divided a town
Ahhh found all the armchair critics in one place!
@@Steven_Rowe once again you are just wrong you have no idea whats in store
Will they ever get started on restoring some of the old locos such a shame to let them waste away ?
The museum has been restoring rollingstock over the last 14 months plus another steam locomotive was saved only last month, portland cement N°5 wich the museum had to go to victoria to go and get it and take on a truck to dorrigo to join its sister engin N°6. So ues the museum is always doing things!
@Lachlan Smith yeah but the loco has been saved, another feather in the DSR&M's cap 😁👍
@Lachlan Smith yeah but it would be still sitting in that paddock if the museum didnt buy it mate you think what you like mate, befor you know it all of Chris Richards remaining locos and stock will end up in dorrigo too when the shit hits the fan dorrigo comes to the rescue mate with no help from you either .
This is sad, like a grave yard
None of these love,y old trains moving on a track
So they are deteriorating
Sad, There’s quite a few that should be running now
Is this Cathy from Oran Park?
@@winnieryley no
This is the saddest place I know. What a shame all those lovely engines and pieces of rolling stock where left to rot.
So sad to see that nothing has improved in all the years I had holidays on the mid north coast just waiting for something to happen, time they put there hand up for help from other museums to try and save some of them before they turn to dust.
Youve got no idea mate !
Adrian Kingston Would love to know what the grand plan will be!
@@raygbrown55 its to open to the public simple as that
Adrian Kingston but that is what they have been saying for the last 30 years
@@raygbrown55 yes thats true but you havent seen the progress made in that time and when 9 out of 10 people are armchair enthusiasts like the 9 out of 10 making comments here it takes the dedicated few a long time to acheive our goals
Loco 4620 class the same as the one at 0.34 responsible for the deadly 1977 Granville Disaster.
its pisses u off and makes u sad and u think what the hell can i do to prevent this happening ......? is the biggest question
The Dorrigo Railway Museum is really a scrapyard.
pretty much but that not it name
agreed, one man's obsessive compulsive syndrome, aided and abetted by well-meaning, but gullible locals.
Better to have 1or2 working locos than a yard of scrap metal together with broken promises and people’s dreams
Exactly. Which is what most museums have. Things that actually work, unless a dedicated static display. Look at the steam museum in Toowoomba. Not all that old really but things run. They did not waste money. They got it up and running. It even joins the main line for trips. Downs Steam and Tourist Railway. Check them out. I have no vested interest, but it makes Dorrigo look like Dad's Army. No rusting junk or "oiled over" locos at Toowoomba Museum. Only 5 dollars to get in too. Bargain.
a couple those 42 class look like F-7s from america.
That's because they are pretty well based on the F-7s, basically from what I understand "Australianised".
Whilst the 42 and 421 class are General Motors Corporation engines of US design they both differ in appearance because they are a separate class of diesel engine. The 42 class were withdrawn in 1983 around February of that year and none got to be repainted in the Candy stripe livery after overhaul. They entered service in NSW in 1956. Introduced in 1965, the 421 class lingered on until January 1987 and that is the reason why 42102 is painted in Candy as shown here. One 421 managed to get painted in the Tuscan Reverse colour scheme in 1979 but was unfortunately scrapped at Simsmetal Mascot in January 1991 along with 42110 in the original colour scheme. The 42 class has grooves at the base of the nose and the 421 class doesn't. The 42 class has more ventilation grills on the side and the 421 class has a combination of grills and extra paneling which make it less streamlined looking than a 42 class in my opinion. However, a 421 class looks better at the front with no grooves at the base of the nose but this class of engine was notorious for emitting sparks and starting lineside fires in the NSW Southern Tablelands. Cullarin Range - Ilabo/Gunning/Breadalbane those sorts of places.
Sad "Museum"
Doomed.....send them to theilmere.
Hahahahaha mate here's a list of the items sent from Thirlmere to dorrigo ......aahhheem ...
*1880's vintage 12 wheel pullman car with clerestory roof.
*1870's vintage 6 wheel steam loco tender with grease fed axle boxes.
*Bogie shunting steam loco tender
LO34.
* Brand spanking new standard goods Wampu tender tank replica that was ment for 5461.
*Over 140 box trailer loads of thirlmeres spare parts and tooling.
*Express passenger steam locomotive 3813 the only cardiff built steam locomotive left in existance.
See what ever thirlmere doesn't want ends up being saved from scrap by dorrigo hahahah...........send it to thirlmere your funny hahaahaha! 😄👍
Quite obviously run by the circumlocution office.
~ frowns ~
Great montage though.
Its not a museum. Its a bloody scrap yard. And thats a bloody shame. What happened here? It was a project full of promise.
Not a museum. A hoarders possessions. A graveyard of trains and of other peoples dreams. Terrible waste. Mostly scrap value only. It took over 10 years and millions to restore the prized loco 3801. Who will pay for these ? The line to the coast is closed. These objects will never move again. Tragedy.
You are wrong !
You are a tragedy! Lucky not all of us think like you do nothing would get preserved otherwise!
And it took millions and 10 years because of the monumental fuck up that resteration was!
Adrian Kingston. If you think these locos are going to move under their own steam, you my friend are sadly delusional. Very sad indeed!
@@graemeforssberg3986 ok 😌👍
How hard would it be to crowd fund a semi tanker of Tuscan red and an industrial sandblasting unit?
That display is a greedy obsession, not an interest in railway history.
What a waste. Close to 40 years and no action.
What museum ? it is a decaying heap of nothing !!