Crinacle and rtings did extensive research on this and concluded it doesn't exist. It all depends on our ears, listening to an iem for extensive period of time makes our ears to get used to that particular tuning and thus the sound gets more natural, which is absolutely not burn in or the driver opening up.
Hey there, while it's true that personal perception and adaptation play a role in our listening experience, the concept of burn-in or driver opening up is still a topic of discussion among audio enthusiasts. Crinacle and Rtings have provided valuable insights based on their research, highlighting the influence of ear adaptation. However, some users claim to notice subtle changes in sound characteristics over time. Ultimately, it's up to individual interpretation and preference. So, whether you believe in burn-in or not, the most important aspect is to enjoy the music and find the best sound that suits your taste.
@@s1lverhand_ You need to check out the videos on RUclips of headphones/earphones using test rigs playing for hours. The aftermath test results are significant!! And they do make a difference !!
After trying 15 hours of different burning-in sounds, i have not heard sound differences in about 30 IEMs with dinamic drivers, also no change in Bedyerdynamic 990 pros, also no difference to report in hifiman anandas. There is no change in sound in my experience.
The changes are very subtle and mild ... You need to listen carefully. Some earphones straight out of the box have very harsh trebles but after a 48H (Bare minimum) of burning in. You find a good difference.
I bought my 1st pair of headphones recently and saw this Smart Burn-in function when I started to play around with the App, but then forgot about it. Now, a month later, I decided to do it: I started the Smart Burn-in but it says that it will take 12hrs to complete phase 1! So it seems I'll have to do several sessions of 12hrs each! That's just crazy!!!
I have burned in my DCA Noire closed backs for a month now, and they still sound dull and lifeless. Luckily, my reseller has a 12 month return policy, and these are going back. Thanks for the great video, Ragav...
Ah, the love-hate relationship with us audiophiles! But hey, passion is passion, whether it's for audio gear or collecting stamps shaped like fruit. As long as it brings joy, right? 😄
Hahaha, I remember when I bought my first IEM (KZ ZSN Pro), I had no idea of these technicalities and was disappointed when first listening to them. They sounded very low. Good to see these videos, it will be helpful for the beginners!
Hey brother, I just bought kz edx pro and I am disappointed too but one of my friend suggested to burn in. Will it really help or will it keep getting better with daily use?
I have buyed cca lyra iem last year . Can I burn-in now ? Is it will work at these after 1 year? Burning-in means , it should be continuously playing for several hours?
Burn-in for IEMs is done when they're new. After a year of use, they should be settled into their sound signature. However, if you feel like they've changed or degraded over time, you can try a short burn-in period by listening to them continuously for a few hours. But typically, it's not necessary after extended use.
Thank you for the feedback about the colour of the KZ EDX Pro. A burn in is always recommended for any new IEMs/ Headphones as it loosens the drivers and enable the gear to perform at it's maximum potential.
I also bought KZ edx pro but I didn't find its Audio good as I am shifting to these IEMs from Realme Buds Wireless 2. Currently doing the burnout to my IEMs. Hoping that after burnout they will sound good 😢
Sure, but not it's not easy to find the right track combination and order for your headset. I made a tool (free, no ads, just a website) that does it, all you have to do is press play a few times.
Hey, Raghav Can you please tell me what type of sound should i play while burn in [ Pink Noise / any kind of music ] ☞ waiting for your reply....... ☺️
*Any wired earphones that you people recommend for listening to indian classical music (raag based) and western classical (instrumental) like Mozart and Bach.* Under 1k and 2k Also suggested an DAC/Amplifier under 2k
@@dhiaoshaish driver its moving part, which can do resonation of vibration - sound. Brand new driver is too hard for some vibration and needs time for “burn”, for smoother driving, then gives you better sound, smooth sound, not so hard.
@@miroslavpaulovic17 waiting for headphones to burn in is a myth in my experience. I remember buying a Fedilo X2 after owning Audio Technicas M50. When I listend to it the first time and the first few weeks I was underwhelmed by the prominent but very loose and floppy bass, I didn't like it. weeks later (2 months to be exact) I was falling in love with it and I believed it all had to do with headphones burn in, I was a believer, of course burn in had to be real or why has the sound become so so much better. In fact,I loved these headphones enough that I bought another pair 4 months later. When they arrived, I was ready to have them play music for hundreds of hours, but to my surprise they both sounded 99% the same. Actually, the newer one sounded 1% better cuz of the healthy pads. That experience repeated itself with the sennheiser ie300, one year later after purchasing one and loving very very much, I ordered another, and this time the newer one sounded 100% like the one year old Sennheiser. Burn in happens in the brain, its called getting used to something. I learned from this that, sure, if you buy a headphones and you dont like it in the beginning, you might get used to it and love it later (fidelio x2), but the sennheiser taught me I can love a headphones from the first minute i listen to it and keep loving it, and thats a far better experience.
You should checking out the TANGZU - Wan'er S.G as these are natural sounding IEMs with a warm and smooth sound signature. Here's the link: www.headphonezone.in/products/tangzu-waner-s-g .
i have recieved focal celestee these week im kinda a little disapointed still in some aspects only base is brutal great they have 15 hours right now one night i let them whit white sound for 8 hours at 60 porcent laptop volumen i personally listen them for 4 or 5 hours 2 hours at 85 porcent with youtube and mp3 at 320kpps im planing leave them 2 times more for a 8 to 10 hour naight playing is that corect.
You're absolutely correct! While some of us audiophiles like to speed up the process with dedicated burn-in sessions, simply listening to your headphones over time can also contribute to a natural burn-in effect. So, whether it's intentional or not, your headphones are on their way to unlocking their full potential! 🎧🔥
@@Akshay-ts4bv DAC is a digital to analog converter which used to convert your digital audio files to a analog output. It'll make your audio better like what they actually recorded in the studio when you're using it with a Hi-Res audios like FLAC, ALAC.
At 400 hrs of contant use this will reduce lifespan of the headphone or speaker😂then one is left with a better sounding but a lot less lifespan from headphone
@@SuryaBhanKhare how to burn it Bro Like you should play music continuously for hours? How can I do that my phone's battery will be dead after 6 to 7 hours
This is an explosive topic! Many people are ardent votaries of it, while others vehemently deny it. Deniers say that it is just a placebo, nothing else. They claim to have seen scientific papers on this but cannot say from where. I prefer the term “aging”, as Final Audio calls it. Final Audio has provided a nice explanation of this “aging” process on their website. I request every audiophile to read it and then make up their mind on this.
Eh lazy bs. The burden of proof lies with the owner of the claim. When snake oil sellers claim burn in is real do they give any measurable proof or evidence that can be repeated? No Whereas a lot of journalism publications have time and again wasted their resources in proving that "burn in" doesn't exist. There is no graph that shows change in frequency response or phase response of different headphones. Reviewers like Rtings dot come have done similar tests on 4 driver types and shown that the "burn in" miracle doesn't happen. Some psychologists have reasoned that it might be people getting used to the audio device. I'm not as polite, I call it bs. Have HPZ or other major "burn-in" believers ever come out with any measurable results? Nope nada never.
Thanks for the video, brought the needed 'clarity' on a 'burning' issue. Can you please give some idea about the type of music we should use for burning in? There are some tracks available on You Tube, would these be the right ones? Or should we just play the type of music we usually listen to as per our preferences?
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Beginners after watching the video-😀
Beginners after reading the comments-😑
@@sagnikmaji8935 exactly😂 btw i just got my first IEM and DAC
Tangzu Wan’er Studio Edition + FiiO Jade Audio JA11 DAC
Crinacle and rtings did extensive research on this and concluded it doesn't exist. It all depends on our ears, listening to an iem for extensive period of time makes our ears to get used to that particular tuning and thus the sound gets more natural, which is absolutely not burn in or the driver opening up.
Hey there, while it's true that personal perception and adaptation play a role in our listening experience, the concept of burn-in or driver opening up is still a topic of discussion among audio enthusiasts. Crinacle and Rtings have provided valuable insights based on their research, highlighting the influence of ear adaptation. However, some users claim to notice subtle changes in sound characteristics over time. Ultimately, it's up to individual interpretation and preference. So, whether you believe in burn-in or not, the most important aspect is to enjoy the music and find the best sound that suits your taste.
@@s1lverhand_ You need to check out the videos on RUclips of headphones/earphones using test rigs playing for hours.
The aftermath test results are significant!! And they do make a difference !!
Very Controversial topic
Eat some roti
@@houman2009 and some dal too :)
With achar😊
How did it taste
@@Truth11173 like roti daal and achar💀
After trying 15 hours of different burning-in sounds, i have not heard sound differences in about 30 IEMs with dinamic drivers, also no change in Bedyerdynamic 990 pros, also no difference to report in hifiman anandas. There is no change in sound in my experience.
The changes are very subtle and mild ... You need to listen carefully.
Some earphones straight out of the box have very harsh trebles but after a 48H (Bare minimum) of burning in. You find a good difference.
So pre owned headphones are the way to go as the burning in is already done?
I bought my 1st pair of headphones recently and saw this Smart Burn-in function when I started to play around with the App, but then forgot about it. Now, a month later, I decided to do it: I started the Smart Burn-in but it says that it will take 12hrs to complete phase 1! So it seems I'll have to do several sessions of 12hrs each! That's just crazy!!!
I have burned in my DCA Noire closed backs for a month now, and they still sound dull and lifeless.
Luckily, my reseller has a 12 month return policy, and these are going back. Thanks for the great video, Ragav...
burn in only makes a small difference. yes u did good returning them although EQ is not out of the question
I have a Schiit Loki that helped, but could not "lift the veil" of lack of clarity. Bass is very good though.
Totally agree with you same thing goes with expensive pair of home theater speakers. You have to break them in...
this is why people hate audiophiles
Ah, the love-hate relationship with us audiophiles! But hey, passion is passion, whether it's for audio gear or collecting stamps shaped like fruit. As long as it brings joy, right? 😄
I dont need to burn my tangzu Wargner, because it's already on fire when i brought it
Is there any upcoming sale??
Instruction unclear i completely burnt my headphones and now its not working💀
I agree to raghav. I used an iem that's 7hz selnotes zero sounded much better after a month.
Hahaha, I remember when I bought my first IEM (KZ ZSN Pro), I had no idea of these technicalities and was disappointed when first listening to them. They sounded very low.
Good to see these videos, it will be helpful for the beginners!
How long did it take before they reached their full potential?
@@ashwamedh3603 5 days of normal duration listening per day
Hey brother, I just bought kz edx pro and I am disappointed too but one of my friend suggested to burn in. Will it really help or will it keep getting better with daily use?
@@SasukeUchiha-uy9lf you can just plug it to laptop, play some music overnight. That's enough burning
I have personally tried burning in on some headphones, and for me, it does not make much of a difference in sound. imo
I have buyed cca lyra iem last year . Can I burn-in now ? Is it will work at these after 1 year?
Burning-in means , it should be continuously playing for several hours?
Burn-in for IEMs is done when they're new. After a year of use, they should be settled into their sound signature. However, if you feel like they've changed or degraded over time, you can try a short burn-in period by listening to them continuously for a few hours. But typically, it's not necessary after extended use.
@@headphone_zone I tried and It works . Much improvement in sound quality
I bought your company's KZ edx Pro earphones today. Will it also have to go through the burn-in process? And its Cyan colour is amazing
Thank you for the feedback about the colour of the KZ EDX Pro. A burn in is always recommended for any new IEMs/ Headphones as it loosens the drivers and enable the gear to perform at it's maximum potential.
@@itssahil2017 so how's the result after burning
Hey brother, I also bought a kz edx pro iem today did you find any difference after burning in?
I also bought KZ edx pro but I didn't find its Audio good as I am shifting to these IEMs from Realme Buds Wireless 2. Currently doing the burnout to my IEMs. Hoping that after burnout they will sound good 😢
@@pabbn bro what happened after the burning process
Does this concept apply for IEM's too?
Yes absolutely!
anybody know the burn in time of 7hz salnotes zero?
Does headphone burn in work
Yes absolutely!
@@headphone_zone how long to do it I only did it for 6 hours
Sure, but not it's not easy to find the right track combination and order for your headset. I made a tool (free, no ads, just a website) that does it, all you have to do is press play a few times.
@@InExt-l7u what website?
can you tell what to play whole night for burning in then I'll pick it up in morning
You can play any music which you prefer at 70% volume or you can play white noise/ pink noise videos on youtube.
Hey, Raghav Can you please tell me what type of sound should i play while burn in [ Pink Noise / any kind of music ] ☞ waiting for your reply....... ☺️
Pink noise but depends upon the frequency response of the listening device
*Any wired earphones that you people recommend for listening to indian classical music (raag based) and western classical (instrumental) like Mozart and Bach.*
Under 1k and 2k
Also suggested an DAC/Amplifier under 2k
Moondrop Quarks
Moondrop Chu. It's even better then quarks
7hz salnotes or thruthear hola. Moondrop chu2 is also good.
Bro I ordered one iem for me but I don't know how to track or how to see my product pls help me
You can get in touch with our team at direct@headphonezone.in and our team shall surely assist you further.
What music should I play while burning in ? Kindly guide me in this regard. Thank you in advance.
don't, its a myth
@@dhiaoshaishyou are myth itself, its simple physics jesus 😂.
@@miroslavpaulovic17 explain the physics then
@@dhiaoshaish driver its moving part, which can do resonation of vibration - sound. Brand new driver is too hard for some vibration and needs time for “burn”, for smoother driving, then gives you better sound, smooth sound, not so hard.
@@miroslavpaulovic17 waiting for headphones to burn in is a myth in my experience. I remember buying a Fedilo X2 after owning Audio Technicas M50. When I listend to it the first time and the first few weeks I was underwhelmed by the prominent but very loose and floppy bass, I didn't like it. weeks later (2 months to be exact) I was falling in love with it and I believed it all had to do with headphones burn in, I was a believer, of course burn in had to be real or why has the sound become so so much better. In fact,I loved these headphones enough that I bought another pair 4 months later. When they arrived, I was ready to have them play music for hundreds of hours, but to my surprise they both sounded 99% the same. Actually, the newer one sounded 1% better cuz of the healthy pads. That experience repeated itself with the sennheiser ie300, one year later after purchasing one and loving very very much, I ordered another, and this time the newer one sounded 100% like the one year old Sennheiser. Burn in happens in the brain, its called getting used to something. I learned from this that, sure, if you buy a headphones and you dont like it in the beginning, you might get used to it and love it later (fidelio x2), but the sennheiser taught me I can love a headphones from the first minute i listen to it and keep loving it, and thats a far better experience.
which IEM's will be better, one with 1DD or with 1DD and more than 2 BA
The driver count is not as important. What truly matters is the tuning of the drivers - be it a single DD or Hybrid setup.
Hii, I'm looking for good iem(my first) in and around 2k ,could you suggest me some good ones from your website.
You should checking out the TANGZU - Wan'er S.G as these are natural sounding IEMs with a warm and smooth sound signature. Here's the link: www.headphonezone.in/products/tangzu-waner-s-g .
Bruuuhhh, it might be real but doing it for the sake of it feels stupid to me
should i plug my iem in dac or directly in my smartphone's audio jack for burning in
Yes, you can plug-in your new IEMs directly into the headphone jack of your smartphone.
Can you please do a comparison between hexa, aria and titan s
Same here
I vote for hexa
Sir, i have been using Sennheiser IE 200. Is IEMs also need burn in process
i have recieved focal celestee these week im kinda a little disapointed still in some aspects only base is brutal great they have 15 hours right now one night i let them whit white sound for 8 hours at 60 porcent laptop volumen i personally listen them for 4 or 5 hours 2 hours at 85 porcent with youtube and mp3 at 320kpps im planing leave them 2 times more for a 8 to 10 hour naight playing is that corect.
Okay so that is burn in I just about throw my first iem to the oven 🤣
🥹🥹🥹🥹
Signature Acoustics FE-01 (RIVER) vs hola which one is good can you plz tell me
Should i buy a dac if i am using iem connected with gaming moniter ?and will mic work via monitor aux?
They will eventually burn in when listening to it for long periods of time for like a month or nah?
You're absolutely correct! While some of us audiophiles like to speed up the process with dedicated burn-in sessions, simply listening to your headphones over time can also contribute to a natural burn-in effect. So, whether it's intentional or not, your headphones are on their way to unlocking their full potential! 🎧🔥
Best Dongle dac under 2k
Can anyone tell how much time final e3000 will take to burn in. Its been 3 days but it is still having low sound.
use dac/amp
@@mukulmanghani8255 What is that bro...can you plz explain
@@Akshay-ts4bv DAC is a digital to analog converter which used to convert your digital audio files to a analog output. It'll make your audio better like what they actually recorded in the studio when you're using it with a Hi-Res audios like FLAC, ALAC.
what device you using? for my iphowe, yes it sound so low. but my vivo nex, it sound better because it have dac built in.
@@Bizarre5165 I'm using Xperia 1 IV with KZ ZS10-pro.
Now planning to upgrade to a portable DAP.
Excellent videos
Ok i must say this. "headphone zone" channel. About sound and sound quality... and sound in this video is so bad. Can't watch this. Sorry.
At 400 hrs of contant use this will reduce lifespan of the headphone or speaker😂then one is left with a better sounding but a lot less lifespan from headphone
We havent crossed the 400 hour mark. So it'll be hard to be able to comment on what happens then.
Yes headphones and earbuds do smoothen out after a few days.
I recently purchased the kz zsn pro x so the burnin process required ? If required how many hours do I need to do and will it give a good impact?
5 days
Mice doing hiss hiss sound work on mic quality
Works with iems?
In IEM you will get only 10% improvement after burn in for about 40 hrs , because IEMs drivers are too small compared to Headphones
@@SuryaBhanKhare how to burn it
Bro
Like you should play music continuously for hours? How can I do that my phone's battery will be dead after 6 to 7 hours
@@SuryaBhanKhare"10%" 🤓
This is an explosive topic! Many people are ardent votaries of it, while others vehemently deny it. Deniers say that it is just a placebo, nothing else. They claim to have seen scientific papers on this but cannot say from where. I prefer the term “aging”, as Final Audio calls it. Final Audio has provided a nice explanation of this “aging” process on their website. I request every audiophile to read it and then make up their mind on this.
Eh lazy bs.
The burden of proof lies with the owner of the claim. When snake oil sellers claim burn in is real do they give any measurable proof or evidence that can be repeated?
No
Whereas a lot of journalism publications have time and again wasted their resources in proving that "burn in" doesn't exist. There is no graph that shows change in frequency response or phase response of different headphones.
Reviewers like Rtings dot come have done similar tests on 4 driver types and shown that the "burn in" miracle doesn't happen.
Some psychologists have reasoned that it might be people getting used to the audio device.
I'm not as polite, I call it bs. Have HPZ or other major "burn-in" believers ever come out with any measurable results? Nope nada never.
Couldn't find them, a link would help
Thanks for the video, brought the needed 'clarity' on a 'burning' issue.
Can you please give some idea about the type of music we should use for burning in? There are some tracks available on You Tube, would these be the right ones? Or should we just play the type of music we usually listen to as per our preferences?
Burning it now.. hope it wont catch fire. hehe...
They will definitely sound fire!
can confirm after using the same airpods almost daily since 2019 they sound like shit and the battery runs out in 45 minutes max😁👍🏼
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Totally agree
Telugu lo explanation sir plese