Kontakt Tutorial: How to Make Round Robin Samples That Don't (Completely) Suck
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- In this video, I explore some dos and don'ts of round-robin sampling. First, I show how to create a the most basic violin patch imaginable with just one sample, then we convert it to a round-robin patch with 4 samples. After seeing why traditional round robins suck, we use a custom script to create a version that randomizes samples without ever repeating them.
You can find that super useful "random no-repeat" Kontakt script here: normalsounds.c...
IMPORTANT INFO MISSING FROM VIDEO: At the top of the script, there is an array variable declaration that looks like this:
declare %list[7]
You’ll need to change the number 7 to however many groups you have. So if you have four samples, it should like this:
declare %list[4]
Also: you'll want to make sure you hit the "Apply" button after you make any changes to the script. This is very easy to forget.
Good luck!
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The default group that Kontakt provides when you create a new instrument has an envelope and velocity modulator. The groups you create by clicking the create empty group button don't have these default modulators (who knows why NI chose to do this!). So your first group will always sound different to the others. Best way around this is to duplicate the first group rather than pressing the create empty group button.
I have already created the groups. How can I do that now? Thank you!
@@lluannr I think it's a one at a time process for adding the modulators if you've already created the groups.
I've been going through all your videos and just wanted to say THANK YOU for the wisdom. Very straight forward, easy to digest for people new to this whole thing, and entertaining. Cheers! Mike (Toronto)
This is what I have been searching for …I have zero knowledge of making a round robin at all. Most videos assume prior knowledge or terminology. Thank you hopefully I can copy the script and paste it into kontakt 6 or 7. Thank you again
Thank you for taking the time to post this David for Kontact newbies like me.
You seem to be a smart and talented young man. I appreciate the explanation and I hope you get the success you deserve!
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Great video, but now this will be stuck inside my head for a couple of weeks.
Great explanation! Thank you!
I love that your Ableton page says"Report Crash"! I always wondered what a Round Robin was. Now I know.
Thanks for your generosity David!
Thanks for this! I assumed it would be a built in function and have struggled for hoursto get it to wokr, finally found your video. Much appreciated
This man is a saint.
Thank you David!
I have never seen a tutorial like this...
Best tutorial of the decade😊😊
What a kind offer to the world of Beginners in Kontakt Scripting !!! Thank you very much !! Will be watching more tutorials !!!!
Amazing video. This was enlightening
Really helpful, man. Thanks!
Can't wait for the "1 2 3 4" sample pack
I'd replace my metronome with it tbh.
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Very interesting.
Such an excellent and thorough demonstration yet still well paced. Well done and thank you. One thing, what language is the Kontakt script in? I’d love a breakdown of the script, or scripting as a recourse for musicians. This is a much overlooked area that is so powerful. Any coding or scripting lessons or tutorials are typically done by coders for other coders so tend to be a bit......terse, and hard to grok. Yet, so many creative tools (in music and visual arts) have some sort of scripting engine
Thank you so much!
I just discovered your channel a few days ago. What great content and what a great video! Wow, thanks! 🤩
Thanks David! Very helpful 🙃
I really enjoy your videos!
Great stuff David! Thanks for the help!
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You helped me! Thanks David! Regards! :)
This is a really great way to do round robins and makes perfect sense. QUESTION - How do you do it in Live?
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Yes. Very helpful.
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Great video, very useful :)
Awesome vid! I always wondered how to escape the double repetition of RR in Kontakt...apparently scripting is the only answer. Thanks for this!
How do I add velocity “in you example• here for each violin note ? Please
I love your tutorial! I want to add velocity layers but it isn't working. Do you know how can I do this? Thank you!
Thanks for this tutorial. I reckon you need the full edition of Kontakt to be able to script like you did?
Hi @David Hilowitz Music! I was just wondering if you would be able to advise me of how the attached script would work when using multiple groups/buses. No worries if that's too big a question for on here. All the best Paul :)
cool, but can you do the same thing.... but in SFZ?
Do you have a suggestion on where or how to learn Konstantinos scripting?
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Great Vid! Please, i need the same script but which would work for multiple groups! (Lets say I have 4 groups for snare round-robins and 4 for kick round-robins)
For me all random modes (the default one AND the script) will always skip random notes causing gaps in the music... What is happening there, I followed the tutorial step by step.
Thanks for posting this! May I ask for some expertise? Your script works great for me when it is in an instrument with just my 8 round robin layers. However, I’d like to create an instrument that has 12 layers of sustains and 8 layers or round robin staccato notes. How to I apply your script JUST to the particular eight round robin layers in my instrument containing 20 layers including sustains that don’t need the script.
Really interesting. I tried with a couple different samples, and once the script added, for some reason not all the samples are triggered... or should I say theres is not always a sample triggered everytime I play the key... wonder what I do wrong
Dee Lanee Ah, I bet I know what the problem is. At the top of the script, there is an array variable declaration that looks like this: declare %list[7]. You’ll need to change the number 7 to however many groups you have. So if you have four samples, it should be: declare %list[4].
I should have mentioned this in the video.
Were you able to get it to work?
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I had the same problem, after applying the script to a patch I had made earlier with only 3 groups. I had already set the variable at the top of the script to 3 but it was still only triggering the groups occasionally. It didn't take me long to figure out though that all I needed to do was set each group back to trigger 'always' and let the script do the work. Having the groups set to RR or Random, obviously conflicts with the script.
Great video, great script, thanks.
I tried to understand how the round robin/random is managed in Studio-Drummer with so many articulations and different microphones for the same note. The randomness is not between different groups but within the group itself, between samples, whose alternative moves are distributed on notes that do not correspond to the playing note. What part of the script does this? Thank you!
This is the most unmusical process of sampling I've ever come to know. Thank you!!
How to DISABLE round-robins?
hey, how about if you want to have round robins for samples that have multiple microphones recorded? are there any subgroups?
there are no subgroups, but there are busses. you can set a bunch of groups to output to the same instrument bus the change the volume of the instrument bus instead of the individual group volume. this is what I did for my nagoya harp instrument.
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There is a way to random only group 4 to 6 for example, with your script ?
Thanks for asking. I think not without significant modifications. :/
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