Folks. There's also a setting so you can't accidentally change the last setting. Choose the one with the ⬇️ next to it. That way, it only changes with the shutter button half way pressed 🤓 I love that ring.
Ugg, it's annoying when people make videos about a product they aren't fully knowledgeable about. There is video on Canon's channel that shows exactly how to set this option to prevent the problem this tuber is concerned about.
thank you, I learned something today. I was looking for a good use of the ring. I didn't know about the "half-pressed-shutter-button" enabler. Now I can think of some senarios....I think....
I use it to go from eye/ face detection to one point auto focus! It works great! I don’t have to go into the settings, I just change it with the control ring
Many of the more expensive Z-mount lenses also have the “extra” control ring, and noticed the same problem. I was unknowingly changing the exposure compensation.
I only have one RF lens, 24-105 F4 L. So I never wanted to get used to using the ring for ISO because I knew it wouldn't be there on my adapted lenses. But I have it set on my RP where I have to hold one of the other buttons down before the ring will work, so I don't have to worry about accidentally moving it.
I have yet to see if I like the Control Ring or not, since I still have all EF lenses with the basic adaptor. However, as one who first learned photography on a film camera, I assume that I would use it for aperture since that's how we did it back in the day.
Oh come on you know your camera better than that. Everything you can set the control ring to has the option of not functioning unless you half press shutter for the reason of not accidentally changing a setting. I find it perfect for bird photography for a bird on a perch to a bird flying you can very quickly and very easily change your shutter speed from say 1/60th to 1/2500th a second. Due to the size of the ring it changes rapidly compared to using a small dial on the camera body. For landscape it again very handy for exposure compensation though not essential as there no rush in a landscape situation, well not normally anyway. I do like to use all the functions the manufacturer offers us and though the control ring is not essential it can come in handy. For sure they making muscle memory difficult by placing controls in different positions on different lenses but take it away? No l think we need all the custom controls of our camera we can get. It is very handy to set your autofocus zones to or if you a technical shooter you may even assign your Kelvin to it, honestly it is very handy as it a fast way to access features you use often that cannot be a bad thing surely.
@@BillEricPhotography I do feel they can always assign more features to it to give us options to make it useful but l just don't understand all the fuss around accidentally changing settings when they have built in the half press shutter option which totally removes the accidental issue.
I set mine to exposure compensation but feel the same way that there is greater risk of accidentally changing it versus how often I would ever really make use of it.
FWIW I tried out a lower end RF setup. On estate challenged smaller cameras, I can see the control ring OK for say EV. Having said that, using the RF 50MM the lens hood hampered things. No physical MF/AF lens switch may work OK on some bodies, but it's not across the board. I can see a few sides: I take onboard your points; Canon felt a must include. Overall, the actual , one size fits all, implementation needs a good rethink as we transition.......
I have 2 RF lenses to go with my RP (24-105 f4-7.1, and 50 f1.8) , I exclusively use the ring for exposure compensation or ISO depending on whether I'm shooting manual or Aperture Priority. I tried manual focus on the 50 but it is so electronic (detached) feeling I never use it. I just wish Canon had gone the Fuji route and used 3 dials plus exposure compensation. The control ring must be in one (the same) place on all lenses. And please bring back full time manual focus override on all RF lenses. My favorite EF lenses all support that and I do use it. I don't think I will ever sell my Canon EF 70-300 L lens. It doesn't do everything, but what it does is perfect. If only it was a constant aperture f4 (it actually holds f4 zoomed out to 150 mm). So yes I agree that the control ring has too many exceptions and flaws to be the brilliant piece of awesome Canon wants us to buy!
Like the other Nikonians stopped using their Z lens' control rings, I stopped using mine on the Z 50 f/1.2 S too. However, thinking about its advantage for +/-EV, I use a rubber band to fix it, just like the way we fixed the lens creep on the old DX 18-200 lens. Although there will not be any accidental changes, but it leads to my wish for an instant +/-EV reset. 🙂
The RF glass is not worth the extra money. They had some Refurbished RF glass on Black Friday sale wtih decent prices, but only for 1 day. 24-70RF and 15-35RF were $1300 and 70-200 was $1600 . My point being get older EF glass wtih control ring adapter. The control ring is right next to the camera body every time!
You know if you set the control ring to a function with an arrow on it, it allows you to only use the control ring while pressing another button at the same time right? Therefore avoiding those pesky issues. It helps to read the instructions before making a video about a feature like this ;P
Im sitting here on lake lanier shooting a sunset and thought hmmmmmm i sure wish i could use that control ring to set my timer… @canonusa are you listening
With the Control Ring Canon created a solution to a problem that didn't exist, an astonishingly bad idea. The only logical selections for that switch are AF/MF.
Folks. There's also a setting so you can't accidentally change the last setting. Choose the one with the ⬇️ next to it. That way, it only changes with the shutter button half way pressed 🤓 I love that ring.
Ugg, it's annoying when people make videos about a product they aren't fully knowledgeable about. There is video on Canon's channel that shows exactly how to set this option to prevent the problem this tuber is concerned about.
thank you, I learned something today. I was looking for a good use of the ring. I didn't know about the "half-pressed-shutter-button" enabler. Now I can think of some senarios....I think....
I use it to go from eye/ face detection to one point auto focus! It works great! I don’t have to go into the settings, I just change it with the control ring
That’s a good one! If you can find a good use for it than that’s great, anything that can help make your photography a little more seamless.
Many of the more expensive Z-mount lenses also have the “extra” control ring, and noticed the same problem. I was unknowingly changing the exposure compensation.
Yeah it’s almost as if they didn’t think this all the way through
Yes to the R touch bar I forgot about that!!
I only have one RF lens, 24-105 F4 L. So I never wanted to get used to using the ring for ISO because I knew it wouldn't be there on my adapted lenses. But I have it set on my RP where I have to hold one of the other buttons down before the ring will work, so I don't have to worry about accidentally moving it.
Good strategy. Too many steps for me though.
I have yet to see if I like the Control Ring or not, since I still have all EF lenses with the basic adaptor. However, as one who first learned photography on a film camera, I assume that I would use it for aperture since that's how we did it back in the day.
Yeah that makes sense!
Thanks for the tip..... I went in and turned mine off. I can see how easily settings could be changed quite by accident.
Oh come on you know your camera better than that. Everything you can set the control ring to has the option of not functioning unless you half press shutter for the reason of not accidentally changing a setting. I find it perfect for bird photography for a bird on a perch to a bird flying you can very quickly and very easily change your shutter speed from say 1/60th to 1/2500th a second. Due to the size of the ring it changes rapidly compared to using a small dial on the camera body. For landscape it again very handy for exposure compensation though not essential as there no rush in a landscape situation, well not normally anyway. I do like to use all the functions the manufacturer offers us and though the control ring is not essential it can come in handy. For sure they making muscle memory difficult by placing controls in different positions on different lenses but take it away? No l think we need all the custom controls of our camera we can get. It is very handy to set your autofocus zones to or if you a technical shooter you may even assign your Kelvin to it, honestly it is very handy as it a fast way to access features you use often that cannot be a bad thing surely.
If you can find a good use for it and make it work for you, then sure it’s a great feature
@@BillEricPhotography I do feel they can always assign more features to it to give us options to make it useful but l just don't understand all the fuss around accidentally changing settings when they have built in the half press shutter option which totally removes the accidental issue.
60th to 2500th you would also have to change your iso then surely
@@mikebennett4922 l use auto iso but always changing my set up so different now.
I had the same problem with my Nikon lenses as well. I totally agree with you. I don’t use it as well.
I wish they would find a different purpose for it, if possible, or focus their development on something more useful.
I set mine to exposure compensation but feel the same way that there is greater risk of accidentally changing it versus how often I would ever really make use of it.
I had mine set to exp comp too, it made sense and I was excited to use it
Yeah. Good effort/nice idea if kind. No MF/AF switch is naughty. Looking into systems as it stands and this ring set up is on the minus side.
I agree
FWIW I tried out a lower end RF setup. On estate challenged smaller cameras, I can see the control ring OK for say EV. Having said that, using the RF 50MM the lens hood hampered things. No physical MF/AF lens switch may work OK on some bodies, but it's not across the board. I can see a few sides: I take onboard your points; Canon felt a must include. Overall, the actual , one size fits all, implementation needs a good rethink as we transition.......
I have 2 RF lenses to go with my RP (24-105 f4-7.1, and 50 f1.8) , I exclusively use the ring for exposure compensation or ISO depending on whether I'm shooting manual or Aperture Priority. I tried manual focus on the 50 but it is so electronic (detached) feeling I never use it. I just wish Canon had gone the Fuji route and used 3 dials plus exposure compensation. The control ring must be in one (the same) place on all lenses. And please bring back full time manual focus override on all RF lenses. My favorite EF lenses all support that and I do use it. I don't think I will ever sell my Canon EF 70-300 L lens. It doesn't do everything, but what it does is perfect. If only it was a constant aperture f4 (it actually holds f4 zoomed out to 150 mm).
So yes I agree that the control ring has too many exceptions and flaws to be the brilliant piece of awesome Canon wants us to buy!
Great points thanks!
Well done video - Hi from Michigan 🚂
Like the other Nikonians stopped using their Z lens' control rings, I stopped using mine on the Z 50 f/1.2 S too. However, thinking about its advantage for +/-EV, I use a rubber band to fix it, just like the way we fixed the lens creep on the old DX 18-200 lens. Although there will not be any accidental changes, but it leads to my wish for an instant +/-EV reset. 🙂
The RF glass is not worth the extra money. They had some Refurbished RF glass on Black Friday sale wtih decent prices, but only for 1 day. 24-70RF and 15-35RF were $1300 and 70-200 was $1600 . My point being get older EF glass wtih control ring adapter. The control ring is right next to the camera body every time!
Completely agree. I’ve had the same experience.
You know if you set the control ring to a function with an arrow on it, it allows you to only use the control ring while pressing another button at the same time right? Therefore avoiding those pesky issues. It helps to read the instructions before making a video about a feature like this ;P
Agree, take away the control ring and lower the lens prices
Im sitting here on lake lanier shooting a sunset and thought hmmmmmm i sure wish i could use that control ring to set my timer… @canonusa are you listening
I did the same thing with Nikon. It’s too easy to change by accident. And not all lenses have one.
Agreed Jim!
I have not found the control rings very useful either.
Canon should at least make it more functional. Give it more options and we may find something useful.
I totally agree.
First class Eric👍
Thanks! 😄👍🏻
With the Control Ring Canon created a solution to a problem that didn't exist, an astonishingly bad idea. The only logical selections for that switch are AF/MF.
After 2 min a waste of my time
Ok thanks
Not every video needs to be for every one.
You can turn it off, or buy ef lens instead
Yes, it is off on all my RF lenses