BRNO ZH205 Combo Gun: Fantastic VALUE!
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- I picked up this used BRNO Model ZH205 Combination Gun - part of the exodus of firearms from Europe. BRNO Combo Guns are undervalued and offer incredible value and utility; in addition to accuracy, unique function and elegance. This BRNO Model ZH205 is in .22 Savage Hi-Power and 12 gauge. Come see how it performs in the mountains.
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This rifle in 7x57 and 12/70 is all what you need for a hunter's life.
Couldn't agree more. A perfect combination for a one gun mixed hunt.
That's what I have, it's a ZH 104 with a double shotgun barrel ZH 101 to swap out...
The CZech’s are masters at making a truly useful firearms🙌
They're an amazing people and country IMHO
I have had the ZH304 plus the Skeet barrels since the early 1980's. Mine is topped with a fixed 6x scope, heavy reticle. Took my first European boar with the 7x57R. Hunted with the ZH for many years in Europe and on the U.S. east coast. With me again overseas. The 7x57R can be reloaded using standard 7x57 dies with zero issues. Great combo firearm and totally suited to Europe or Stateside hunting where you can legally hunt with shotgun and rifle.
Great European gun, it is a lot of used in Balkan teritory, I mean Croatia, Bosnia, Serbia.. All models from Brno are very popular in my country, ZH 304 is one of the most popular combination guns. It is chambered in 12 gauge and 7x57R. Of course someone has this gun in 16 gauge and 7x57R, there is also few guns in 7x65R or 8x57IRS, but you can't find this calibers so easy. Of course 7x57R is the weakest caliber in this group, but it worked very well for years even on the biggest game here, like wild boars or bears... Nice video by the way, and thank you for this...
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You are so right on the 7x57 which Capstick used to save Africa’s people from the tigers that tormented the poor people. Jack Oconners wife loved using it to for a lot of her hunts!
@@lovacporodjenju4363 that was Corbett with his 7x57
Mine combo is a Italian one in 12-76 and 7x57R
@@MrPh30 I have also Italian combo gun in 12/76 and 30-06, my gun is Sabatti Forest and I can tell you that I am happy with it..
Thank you for the note! These are so fantastic - you knew long before us - or me anyway. The accuracy of the 5.6x52R in mine is remarkable. I hope to find one in 7x57R. All the best to you!
22 Savage High power is basically a 30/30 necked down to .228. 75 gr bullets and I believe a one in 9 twist was required to stabilize it. Fast twist for heavy bullets in a 110-year-old caliber. Who knew? LOL!
Original U.S. ammunition uses a 70 grain semi-pointed bullet, according to my understanding. I believe that the European rifles use a 1-10” twist or something very close to that. The Hornady 70 grain spitzer bullet was designed for the faster twist barrels and should be ideal for this gun.
If memory serves me correctly, there is/was a 70 grain semi-pointed .224” Speer bullet which has been used successfully in original Savage rifles.
In Europe it is the 5.6 x 52R . Same ballistics as the 22 Savage hi power.
. .228 in not .224 Dia
@@georgesheffield1580 It reportedly obturated sufficiently-in some barrels-to do the job.
22 Savage High Power (5.6x52mm R) hold the record for the worlds largest tiger taken in india and was a very popular seal, whale, and polar bear cartridge amoung the eskimos!
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I didn't know
Thank you for amazing content! I live in Greenland and I am from Canada. Gun culture here is insane, you can buy a rifle in a GROCERY STORE and you don’t even get them registered (unless it’s a semi-auto which requires a special license) it’s funny that the rifles hang on the wall they are not even locked on the wall you can take it off the wall and look at it and craziest thing is that all the ammo is on shelves right beside the guns (the guns have bolts in them) and you can put ammo in your shopping cart. Just thought I’d share. Have a good one😁
Thank you! That is one of the best posts ever : ) You likely triggered a mass migration to Greenland! I should visit! Over time I had a few Greenlanders write - all kinds of coastal shooting adventures - some at very long range if I remember correctly. All the best to you in Greenland!
Good show USOG. Brno (CZ) makes and made as you can see great firearms. The 205 is a bit bulky/unwieldy but very affordable and good quality. It will never break, the perfect survival Gun. Combination weapons are very common here in Sweden. Common brands are Finnish Valmet and Tikka. Angelo Zoli and Merkel are also common brands. I myself have a Miroku 12/6.5x55 which I am very happy with. Thanks again for a great channel.
Thank you for the note! This is such a fine, fine rifle/shotgun - hard to believe the accuracy. All the best to you in Sweden!
Great guns those combo's 👍I don't like the drilling because of the weight but i own the Krighoff Ultra combo in 12/.222rem. Mine is very light because of the alloy action, has the German "stecher" trigger and EAW quick mount for a Leupold VXIII 1,25-5 magnification. This is the rifle i always carry for hunting birds, hare, fox, badger, and roe deer. The Krighoff and my Varberger .308win are the last guns i'll ever sell. Thanks for showing. Cheers!
Krieghoff : fantastic!
This is the best, most wholesome channel on RUclips, guns or otherwise. Thank you for all your great work.
Thank you for your kind words 🙏 They help me.
Older (80's) Blazer 12/70-222.rem its light and accuracy kombination gun, with Rottweil Whidemannsheil & Sako or Lapua 222.rem 3,2 g.
BRNO famous too.
219 zipper, 22hp, 25-35, 7-30 waters, 32 win, 38-55 all based off the 30-30 case.
I have bought several firearms from the same supplier you mentioned , great deals, take a look at Intersurplus as well.
Thanks for the note
I was looking at those, but I wasn’t too keen on the calibres they came in.
I recently bought one of those Swedish Mausers that were converted to 9.3x57 from a little company here in Quebec. It’s in really beautiful condition, and the stock is a sporterized stock, but really wonderfully done. I paid $235!!!
I want to get a Brno one day, but I just bought a modern gun, and work is slow for now, so I’ll have to wait.
A couple years ago I got an Italian made Husqvarna OU 12g for $450. It’s a real gem. Can’t miss at the range.
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Somehow I missed the Quebec Mausers - I would have bought right away
Another great video on another great series of guns! I think we are brothers from another mother!
I have a ZH 202 Skeet gun with built in compensators. I bought it in the Czech Republic in 2005 when I was working in eastern Europe and the gun shop handled the importation for me. While overseas I also bought a BRNO O/U rifle in 9.3x74R and an Opava Ferdinand 16 ga. SxS . I got them for prices no one would believe. Even after import and shipping costs. Absolute bargains!
Quality is great! Though I would not call the finish on the CZ 202 as refined as some others, the action lockup is incredible! The unique takedown allows for extra barrel sets to be easily interchanged (they are truly interchangeable barrels sets) and were available in different chokes and lengths. No doubt your combo barrels would fit on my frame also. I bought mine with only one set of barrels as I intended it for skeet shooting and it excels for that.
Some other interesting info on these guns:
"ZH" stands for "Zbrojovka Holek". Holek is the name of three brothers who were, essentially, the "John Brownings" of Czechoslovakia. They designed, among others, the ZB 26 machinegun that the British would adopt as the "BREN".
The double triggers on my gun are what are called "Double Single Triggers" Pulling the front trigger fires the under barrel first, a second pull of the front trigger fires the upper barrel. If you pull the rear trigger first, the upper barrel fires first and a second pull fires the under barrel. Perhaps the combo model works the same? Try it. The triggers are the selectors!
BE AWARE, BRNO did not use an "inertia block" in the trigger mechanism. The result? If you fire it off your shoulder (unsupported) it will "double" every time. It is actually "bump firing". The inertia block on most doubles and O/Us prevents this. If you fire it from your shoulder, as is normal, it is not a problem. Hold it unsupported down at your hip, and you will get a "ba-boom" and both barrels will be fired.
The .22 Savage High Power is a good cartridge, way ahead of its time. Designed by Charles Newton in 1912. It is essentially a .25-35 WCF necked down. The biggest issue is that the cartridge uses a .228" diameter bullet, rather than the standard .224". Winchester made the .219 Zipper in 1937, which is similar but made for .224" bullets. The .22 Savage High Power was intended for deer sized game, and was offered in 70-90 grain bullets. It just never caught on in the USA but was more popular in Europe. Americans, in 1912, weren't accepting .22 centerfires as deer rifles and the Model 99 never had the accuracy needed for varmint hunting.
You can find the BRNO ZH models on auction sites and usually go for a reasonable price. They are definitely overlooked gems.
Very informative post! I didn't know about the triggers or the doubling! I'll look for the ported shotgun model and now that you informed me - another set of barrels. All the best and thanks again!
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Thank you for this detailed post!
I have ZH301/304 and last winter I had a couple of ''ba-booms'' with quick draw and not properly shoulder supported stock while shooting heavier loads in first barrel (36g duck hunting load). I thought thought that triggers needs a repair but with your post everything is clear.
Thank you again!
@@jerkojuric6137 Yes, it will do it if the gun is not tightly shouldered, especially with heavy loads.
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns I see your combo gun has two triggers, so I assume they work the same.
In theory, they wouldn't have to for a combination gun, but since the frames are made to accept interchangeable barrel sets, I bet they do.
BRNO ZH guns were not the only ones to use "double single triggers", but they are fairly rare, especially in O/U guns.
Try it next time you are out. Most likely the front trigger fires the shotgun (under) barrel first, a second pull of the front trigger will fire the rifle (over) barrel.
You may also find that your gun would not "double" if you fire the rifle barrel first. The .22 Savage High Power may not generate enough recoil to cause it to happen.
Hi mate. I have owned a ZH304 since the 80's and it has always been a versatile performer for me in the bush in Australia. It is a 12g/243 combo, and I use it for pigs, goats and other ferals. I also always carry slugs and also 4/7 shot in case I want some pigeon pie for the camp pot. I also got a over under 12g barrel set when I bought the gun as a bonus. Your relaxed style is very Aussie-like. Keep up the good work.
So good to hear from you. Ideal for the bush/outback - and I've been there - amazed at the goings on in what looks (from a distance) like not much happening. I always love being in the Lucky Country - hard to leave. For sure it would be a better world if everyone adopted the Aussie ease. All the best to you and good shooting!
On a 22 Savage High power the bullet is 227 Diameter and you can shoot a 70 gr bullet 3100 FPS .
Thank you! I think it's a fantastic cartridge. Cheers
I own 5 of them beautiful guns growing up in my lifetime I've always gave them guns nicknames like the deer drive guns because one barrel is for long range and the other barrel is for short range
223/20ga 3inch
7mm/28ga
30-06/12ga 3 1/2inch
25-06/12ga 3inch
My all time favorite of all of them is my vary rare
577 nitro Express/6ga I'm guessing back in the day when they made that thing they were hunting dinosaurs in Africa
Thanks for the note - I can do that - the neck down route; just have to find time : ) Cheers!
I had one, I sold it to help fund something else, mine was ZH 304 7x57r over 12, add a 4x Zeiss scope on it, it shot decently enough for hunting !
Great Model
I love mine, my only complaint about is that the operating levers aren't textured and it can be rather easy for your thumb to slip off them.
They really are incredibly undervalued for the level of quality you're getting. Like you say, they're almost comically strong.
I like the idea of checkering the steel on the lever - good point!
I absolutely love a combination gun. Thanks for sharing this wonderful gun.
You're most welcome
Very good combination for the money and they will do the job .. I've got
brno 802 combination 222-12g, great on Roe deer and fox's 🤙
I’ve seen exactly one Savage .22 Hi-Power in my life. It was a Savage M99, held in the hands of a sales-floor mannequin at BassPro in Manteca California. It’s a shame your gun wasn’t chambered in a less obscure cartridge like a 25-35. Nevertheless, if the price was right, I’d be delighted to own it. Good to see a shooting channel that features classic hunting rifles instead of one more variation of the countless varieties of AR15s. The Czech’s are such imaginative innovators and fine craftsmen that fine gun making must be part of their DNA.
Great post; especially fine is the DNA comment. I agree - the Czech's are masters at making incredibly fine firearms.
Very informative video; I garnered some new information about this category of long guns. I looked up some prices after watching, and you are correct - the cost is very reasonable for the quality.
Cool video thanks.
Thank you for us budget minded folks.
Sweet combo. I’d own one.
Hope you get one
I have a Bruno ZH 300 series,7/57-12; 22HP/12;12/12. Have the one action, all 3 barrels fit, great gun, also have a LPVO scope on the Bruno mount . Get the scope, really extends the use of the shotgun , and yes you can hunt ,shoot clay birds with the scope on ,just use the lowest power
Excellent post - thank you
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns Live in Canada,I use Intersurplus as a source. Lots of combinations guns come in from Europe. . I have several combo guns all sorts of caliber. Really like that type of gun, just got a Velmet Lion 25/35-12 with an extra barrel in 12/12. Happy shooting!
Greetings from Slovakia. These go for dirt cheap here. It's an outdated Model also The 100 series 104s and 124s etc. Basically every Hunter and family in czechoslovakia has had one. I have a 7x57r +16ga best for driven hunts. The export models were better made than home sold. Main cons are the heating up of the soldering and basically moving the zero of the rifle barrel after 2-3 shots 😊. One more tip btw you can shoot the rifle barrel also by second pull od the rear shotgun trigger. So basically shotgun barrel rifle barrel second.
Greetings to you in Slovakia! Thank you for the note and the trigger function information; I didn't know. The 7x57R would be lovely to buy here - but not easy to find. All the best to you.
Brno (CZ) a class of its own.
I agree
Nice rig and you're looking very well! 👍
Thank you!
Great video as always!
I have a ZH304, a newer model but basically the same gun. Great guns and very popular among hunters in my country. They are very solid built guns but the have one weakness - barrels are not chrome lined and they needs to be thoroughly cleaned and oiled after shooting.
P.S. Rear trigger fire BOTH barrels, first the bottom and the the top one (like classic OU shotguns).. There was also an option to buy set trigger for this rifle but they are very rare these days and hard to come by.
Thank you very much! These are gems - not so common over here. Thanks also for the trigger information - I didn't know. Good health and good shooting, Mike
I have a CZ hammer coach shotgun. An absolutely beautiful gun.
Those are the best recent hammer guns IMHO
great firearm. I have 2 of these, both with 7mm mauser/ 12 ga combos
Good on you - that's an ideal rifle chambering; you're set : )
I have a Brno , log heavy and BULL FOR STOUT! I love it.
Great wording - they're immensely strong.
Some additional information on operating those BRNO ZH guns, because you didn't mention it in the video:
- The front trigger can also be used as a set trigger, just push it forward and you get a very light trigger pull.
- The rear trigger is a double trigger, if you shoot the lower barrel first and pull the rear trigger a second time it fires the top barrel.
And they are quite heavy compared to other combination guns. I have one of those in 7x57R/16ga and an additional pair of 16ga shotgun barrels and I use them as beater guns for hunting.
Combination guns lost rapidely in popularity here in Germany since supressors were legalized for hunters. That's why a lot of cheaper combination guns get exported to the US where they can be sold at a higher price.
Thank you - I hope people read your post. I didn't know : )
I think Fox bullets also make .228 bullets for itm
Rhino for sure makes them, Norma also ammo .
Odd to think the .5,6*52R was used on Tigers also.
Many in drillings to find also, good prices since they are roe deer aized game max legal .
Man I wish they would bring roe deer to the states so we would have a deer to hunt in the summer outside of the very limited range of free ange axis deer (basically only Texas, as Florida refuses to release any).
@@Steve-ev6vx And Axis is better suited for 7mm like 7x57 . Question would be if the biology of them would be suited for the us . But Turkey and other big birds also its excellent on also.
@@MrPh30 there are substantial free range herds of Axis deer in Texas. Both in the Hill Country and in South Texas. I harvested a 24" main beam 3x3 Axis with a .30-06. Dropped in its tracks, tried to get up, and went back down with follow up shot. We also have them on high fenced ranches in Florida, but no free range. There are free range sika deer in Texas, Maryland and Virginia. Maryland and Virginia have pure Japanese Sika. There are also free range Sambar in California and on St. Vincents Island in Florida, which is open to the public for hunting but requires drawing a quota hunt permit.
@@Steve-ev6vx That sounds good , here it’s mostly roe deer , moose , reindeer , red deer in some areas . But 6,5x55 is minimum for them anyway .
.25-35 Wcf , on same case is perhaps the better of them for break actions and levers .
That would be fantastic - although the powers that be don't like tampering with the natural environment. Wild boar/hogs are great game but maybe not the best. I'm not sure. Thanks for the post/idea.
The people saying .223 is adequate for deer, but not other centerfire .22's is conected to the military guys along with tacticool larpers who think 5.56/.223 is the end all be all. They probably think the others are for "fuds". I personally wouldn't deer hunt with one unless it's all I had and needed to eat.
Good post
@@UnitedStatesOfGunsyou are not entirely wrong, most of it is just ignorance as .223/5.56 is the only cartridge many people are familiar with whether they spent time in the military or not. .223/5.56 is adequate for most deer, but is the smallest “.22” cartridge I would use for deer. I have a sweet little h&r handi rifle in .223 that is a great deer rifle. But I would almost always go bigger just in case a larger buck decides to swing by. I am a lazy hunter due to having a bad back and knees. I don’t like chasing deer, so I prefer to put them down on the spot rather than give them a chance to run.
Thank you Mike.
Such a versatile firearm.
Good morning from Austria
I own some CZ Brno over the Time and all of them had a i will call it a settrigger for the Topbarrel,just push the forward trigger forward a you are good to go. But i think you know this already.
And sorry for my englisch.
Greetings from Austria
Thank you - Your English is great. I didn't know this - nice feature. All the best to you in beautiful Austria. Auf Wiederschauen
Looks much more refined than the Savage 24V.
That's a good way to put it
Ty so much im in usa will try to get one
Thank you - best of luck!
Haha we need them all. Love it
these older combo guns are always chambered in the wackiest of calibers for at least 1 of the barrels
I know what you mean; not too hard to find though. All the best
Hello from France. Mine is a 7x57R + 12/70 combo. I'd recommend using sub-calibre bullets in the smooth barrel cause it's very choked (3/4 I think). I personnaly shoot Brenneke S or Sauvestre bullets.
That's a fantastic cartrdige - the 7x57R - and the Brenneke slugs are perfect - thank you.
Beautiful gun.
The 22 hi power is a good deer rifle the idea would deer loading wouls be a 000 buckshot in the bottom barrel for jumped deer and the 22 high power for the longer standing shots. it would be great for black bear in the 7x 57 and 12 gage.
Great post - thank you
Outstanding 💯 looks like you😢feeling better…?… certainly hope so 🙏🏻
Getting stronger and healthier - shot by shot : ) Thank your thoughts.
@@UnitedStatesOfGunstequila or a good Canadian whiskey? 😎
Glad you are getting better.
I would like to have one. It would be great for willow grouse and blacktail.
You bet - ideal!
Nice video. In which choke did you use the slug? Thanks.
It's a Modified choke.
USOG --> hello. Looks good and functional. I like the concept of combo guns. I would like to own one someday. I looked at 3 websites here in the States, and they had no .22 Savage Hi-Power ammo. One site mentioned Sellier & Bellot, but said: "Out of stock, no reorder".
If we were to buy one of the BRNO guns in that chambering, it seems we would have to go the handloading route using 25-35 Winchester brass then neck it down to .228 caliber with a sizing die and put some .227 caliber Hornady spire point bullets in them over some IMR-3031 powder. Savage (Mr. Newton) used a .227/.228 caliber bullet, but almost all .22 caliber rifles for 60+ years have been using .224 caliber bullets.
Another good post; the 25-35 route is fairly easy.
Love my CZs and BRNO - great firearms. Hopefully they don't dumb them down and cheapen them like some American manufacturers have with crap wood, poor fit and finish, sticky operation.
I'm pretty sure they'll stick to their way of making guns.
the 22 ammo in not made in theU.S.
sorry to disappoint, but i think the correct car in the analogy would be a skoda...
Great car! I had one!! The engine was in the rear. I loved that car! If I could find one today I would buy it. Thanks for the note : )
Kersten Lock.
Great design - strong and so interesting
Hey Mike, it’s me again. Another fine educational and entertaining video. To me that gun has somewhat the same look as the Valmet O/U shotguns that were sold under the Savage name back in the 1970’s. I think it was the model 330. I’ve always had a Savage 99 in 22 HP on my dream want list but the prices have just been too high and I have things I want more. Can that combo gun be bought for less $ than what I see the Savage 99’s listed for? Where I live we can hunt deer with any legal to own center fire rifle. I don’t necessarily agree with it but I do know people hunting deer with both 223 Remington and 22-250 with success but I don’t think they’re shooting at very long distances. I do think that combination gun would be great for coyote hunting. The 22 HP out to 250 yards or so and the shotgun with heavy loads (lead #2, BB or larger) for when you can call them in close.
Hello - The combination guns seem to be refugees from European gun laws and are being sold inexpensively for now. You could buy one - good idea. The .22 Savage HP is far better than the 55 grain .22 centerfires. IMHO
If it's possible to put an adjustable aperture rear sight on this puppy, it would be a do everything gun, out to 150 yards or so. I wonder how the shotgun barrel is choked.
Hello - Yes - I've seen one with a Sako aperture sight and one with a Skinner - both excellent. The Sako looked particularly sharp IMHO
Pitaagumapaa’’ that means I want one’’’ in my language lol
I love that word!
I managed to pick up a ZH205 with a 22High Power, 12 gauge a 7x57R x 12 gauge and a 12 over 12 skeet. All really good and not bad regulation between barrels. Do you know if it's rated for steel shot? I scoped them but have gone back to open sights for handiness. As far as the 22 High Power on deer... In Nunavut I shot a lot of caribou with 223 and 22-250. They work very well and the high power with a heavier bullet would do so as well (I am sure).
Hello - I use steel shot in mine - no issues. I agree about the scope - the iron sights are much simpler and natural in that gun.
900 meters is 2950 ft/sec
Thank you - that's fast
Trouble commenting today. YooToob up to dirty tricks again? Thanks for sharing as always! 👍❤️
Sorry about the trouble
CORDITE 55 - 440 max is it a nitro express or black powder proof barrel
Thank you - I learn every day
@@UnitedStatesOfGuns great. Really greatfull if you could find some info on that .
could you re-chamber it 223/5.56,,will ir work?????
@chriscunnane7596 --- Hello. Not a good idea, and actually a waste of money. Why? Because the .22 Savage Hi-Power cartridge uses a .227/.228 caliber bullet. Almost all modern rifle barrels for 60+ years in .22 caliber are size .224 caliber. So, it would be kinda like putting a size 10 foot in a size 9-1/2 size boot/shoe. {I hope that makes sense...?)
I just did some web searching after watching the video, and about the only brand I could find is "Sellier & Bellot" (from Europe) but it seems that they are not in stock in the three ammunition websites (based in the U.S.A.). It has been an "obsolete" cartridge in the U.S.A. for 40+ years.
If you have a reloading press you can use the 25-35 Winchester brass case, necked down to .227 size (with a sizing die) and get some Hornady brand spire point .227 caliber bullets and some IMR-3031 powder and Federal primers and brew up your own loads.
@@chriscunnane7596 and 223 is a bad choice in a break action also due to rimless
One of few options to rechamber is 5,6x61R vom Hofe
Good post. On the other hand, many people find a way : ) Thanks for taking the time to write though.
And since buying the gun I spent almost on ammo and reloading dies for it!!!!
I know what you mean : )
Second trigger fires both barrels, shotgun than rifle.
Even more amazing! I had no idea - thank you. .22 HP barrel groups about 1/2" to 1" at 100
P.S. Greatings from Sarajevo, Bosnia. Big fan.
Just wondering... Why is it US in the channel name? You have the most Canadian accent I've ever heard, haha
Thank you 🤣
brother had a bruno there was something about it i hid it on him
😂 good gun to hide