Lisa Edwards in Knoxville, TN was sad like this, too. She went to the hospital and really WAS having problems. But she got discharged once (and should not have been) and the cops arrested her. They treated her like POS and were so horribly hateful to her. Long story short, she died in the cops car while they were talking crap about her. These cases make my heart hurt
I witnessed a lady die in an ER years ago in a NYC hospital. The staff didn’t believe that she was having chest pains and thought she was just being dramatic. After she yelled, screamed and pleaded for help, she collapsed. At first the staff was laughing and mocking her, then they went into panic mode
I lost my 21 year old son Jordan on 10/17/22. He walked into the ER, I told them over and over he was having a stroke. He had had kidney disease for 9 years, and I knew the signs. They thought I was just a hysterical mom who was clueless. He stroked out in front of an entire hospital of doctors and nurses who were NOT busy-they were joking around and talking as I begged for help and my son screamed in agony. The stroke took out his entire brain stem. I am so angry!!!! We tried to hold them accountable, the one competent medical personnel who was there was supposed to be our star witness, but the hospital got to her. They threatened her so she backed out of testifying. The hospital continues to destroy families every day now.
I am so sorry this happened to you, I recommend getting a good lawyer and contacting lots of news channels and RUclips channels simultaneously to tell the story. Hospitals won’t do anything unless they’re forced ❤
I'm so sorry about your son. A coworker had a similar story with her son who had heart problems. She cried forever for his loss. May time be your healer and God bless you and grant you every night a good rest.
As a psychologist, I'm shocked they "diagnosed" her with schizophrenia so quickly without a medical workup. There are A LOT of medical issues that can present as paranoia and schizoaffective disorders. Hospitals are blatantly incompetent when it comes to mental health, and it's far more common than it should be, unfortunately.
as someone who has a lot of disabilities and disorders, i’m not. My Psychiatrist has another patient with c-ptsd and autism, and when they went into the ER/ED they got diagnosed with BPD. My psych works at that department yet still cannot get the misdiagnosis off of all of his patients documents.
Absolutely. I had a lot of similar symptoms to this woman. I was at first diagnosed with an unspecified dissociative disorder bc I went for psych treatment inpatient. In the first year or so of my symptoms I thought it was psychiatric. That was until I started having temporary partial paralysis from the waist down that came and went, during those times I had to get a catheter in the ER. But they'd just send me home right after. Ultimately it was determined that I had autoimmune encephalopathy from underlying conditions. I've been diagnosed with Crohn's disease and am about to see a specialist for suspected Ankylosing spondylitis. Since a long course of steroids in 2022 I'm still recovering and a lot of my memory is gone. But I'm so grateful that I have my wonderful wife who tended to me constantly and made sure I was okay. If not for her, there's no telling what could have happened to me.
My boyfriend works in a hospital, he works in the kitchen and brings food to patients. He walked into the elevator a couple weeks ago and there was a woman sitting on the floor struggling to breath. He immediately ran to grab help. I can’t fathom the fact that the actual doctors and nurses just stared at her on the floor like that. Poor woman
sometimes the support staff in hospitals are more caring than the actual medically trained staff..... hate to say it but some of them feel so high and mighty that they regard patients like nobodies.
I remember that I had thrush. I came into the emergency room three times. My internist told me to go back to the emergency room or else my throat would close up. I received a cat scan. This person who worked in the emergency room told me to take an oral steroid. I was terrified. The worker said it was for a life threatening situation. I refused. Then, an ears , nose, and throat doctor came in to say that a steroid would make my thrush worse. Whenever I swallowed my saliva, my throat hurt badly. The EMT stuck something up my nose and down my throat. There were white spots in my throat. I saw a picture. It was gross. I was on a soft food diet. I stayed at the hospital for one day and two nights. After I was discharged, the manager from work told me to not come to work for two weeks. It would have been nice if the hospital admitted me the first time I came into the emergency room with thrush. I think that if I had permanent damages, I should have sued. I could have sued for pain and suffering. It took a long time to get admitted. Then I had trouble breathing.
A few yeara ago I fell down 4 flights of stairs needing multiple emergency surgeries a month in the hospital I have some severe trauma disorders and the one diagnosis is controversial. But regardless of what drs think about how the disorders is categorized or the lack of research still should follow the correct treatment that is shown to work and not disrupt other care without consulting their primary psychiatric care team. The emt booked it to the hospital (i saw a short an emt made about this exact type of situation of its never a good sign if they bang on the driver door and just assure me they with you, wont let anything happen, lots of people are gonna rush out to meet you soon don't be scared) but after i was admitef to the ER i was left alone, while bleeding out and my leg was an S. I kept screaming for help, i was seeing between red snd white light, was told to shut up old people are resting. I tried to stop screaming by dissociating as couldn't even lift my pants to show, no one since the emt even lookednat my leg. I started uncontrollably screaming as this was by far the worst pain of my life and told not onky shut up, but ilk be restrained saying they saw im mentally ill on my file and i just twisted my ankle, quit the drama and being a dumbaws or go home. I eventually mustered up just the words "I'm not ready to die, someone call my mom and dad, I don't want to die alone." The ole woman i was bothering wasnt complaining i was screaming she was begging staff to listen to me and eventually i was turning blue and she was worried I would die. Eventually it was the janitors, a lovely couple from west africa who ill never forget just looked st me, the husband held my hand while his wife working with him grabed med students touring the ER and their university supervisor, they flooded my room, called a code, was immediately wheeled into the OR to wait for the surgeon, scans done, realized I was nearly fead and at first thought my leg had to be completely amputated. Those two janitors not only listened and comforted me, they saved my life. And if they soent another 20 minutes and didnt grab as many people as possible right away instead of having metal bone implants id have lost my leg or died. My mental illnesses shouldn't impact my ability to just have my leg examed after the EMT told staff I was very hurt and needed a surgeon rifht away and likely blood transfusions. Then when staying in the hospital they lept me on psych watch, wouldn't let me even go outside with my parents as the floor psychiatrist say my file and decided I was faking my diagnosed disorder. Put me on bipolar meds which caused me to hallucinate but was told im lying, as i appear sedated. While yeah he gave me enough sedatives to knock out a horse. I felt worse. It was the attendant who brings food and helps with baths and stuff, not nurses or drs who stood up for me to the drs. She just went I'm a mother, i can see suffering, hes a good kid don't do this to him and his mom sitting here watching him cry seeing thingd he knows are in his head. They reduced the meds and let my mom take me outfront. My main nurse let me go for secret walks with another patient that was also a dr in his own life to the store to get snacks to feel better. It changed my moral so much. The drs were more worried about their egos and pushing their ideas onto random people based on passed history than listen. The way psych patients are treated when need medical help is nust diabolical
Also im so glad your bf and people like him work in hospitals. If he is that fast to care can only imagine how much he helps in tiny ways. Feeding the sick is an under appreciated and under paid but such an important job.
We are taught as EMTs that if a patient says “I feel like I’m going to die.” We take that seriously. Many times they are right. The sense of impending doom is a very serious symptom. It often accompanies strokes/blot clots.
An old man collapsed onto me when I was waiting at er once and I freaked and the nurse took forever to come check him and acted like I was over reacting and making a scene like one I’m also a patient and two another patient clearly much older and sicker than me just collapsed on me how am I supposed to handle that
I do not have medical training, however…this should have never happened to Ms. Green NOR anyone!! I do work in the medical industry (no medical training & I am just in data analysis), HOWEVER, we all have to be CPR certified and trained as a first responder!!
I'm so thankful for medical/hospital social workers!! I wish more people understood they are there for them! I have had chronic kidney stones and infections that lead to sepsis and when it kicked back up again after a 10 year reprieve, I went into hysterics. I had not been treated well during some of my previous surgeries and dealt with secondary infections like MRSA....there was a lot of trauma. I reached out to the social worker for help getting the strength to proceed crying like a baby and she was so good with me. She was 100% compassionate, kind and helpful. She wrote up a letter explaining my past medical trauma and history for me to share with my future surgeon/s.
The inhumane and stripping of any dignity is abhorrent. The worst thing to do was sitting for 24 hours. Perfectly healthy people die after long flights from this. It’s positively sickening to see this. My heart breaks for Esmin and her family.
Agreed. I once had a stomach bug so bad that I had to be hospitalized after not keeping any fluids in me for 8 hours. They knew I was sick when I dragged myself from my wheelchair in the waiting room and laid face down on the floor. Normally, I wouldn't even want to touch that floor with my hands, but I couldn't sit up anymore. And the floor was cold. It felt so good. You have to be on death's door to find relief in an ER floor. It's horrifying that she didn't receive the same urgency from staff when she did that.
My mom used to have psychosis when she was experiencing bowel blockages. She had diverticulitis, we learned that any time she started to lose her mind, it meant she was septic becauseof a bowel obstruction. True story!!
@@nunyabidness6045 Yes, true! I forgot about that, wild isn't it? So many times my mom was mistreated because they thought she was drunk or on something, but rather, she had an infection!
@@nunyabidness6045yes. as a lab professional that at one point was contracted to go into nursing homes to collect samples , any time i heard of a elderly patient seemingly having a random episode of mental delirium my first instinct is and was always “should add a urine culture”
One of the symptoms of a blood clot/heart attack is a feeling of impending doom ... she had a real feeling like she was dying and it was overlooked and lumped in with her schizophrenia. She never should have been treated this way. I hope she's at peace now.
That is true. Whats also true is the low IQ the staff had - to not realise their lack of responses were going to be seen on the camera! Geez. what were they thinking to get away with it.
Oddly, it's also a symptom of nasopharyngeal reflux, though it's more likely to strike when lying down. If you're having panic attacks when you're trying to go to bed, see an gastroenterologist.
my mom was a paranoid schizophrenic and died in the same manor as Esmin. i never knew until now that there was a connection between schizophrenia and blood clots/thrombosis. this video & your coverage that actually gave me answers for my own grief. rest in peace Ms. Esmin Green, and thank you Petal 🖤 my mom didn't die due to the neglect Esmin did, but Esmin DESERVES justice. there needs to be way deeper research into the connection of schizophrenia & blood clots/embolisms so no other schizophrenic patient dies so horribly neglected
Poor Esmin, she was too easily overlooked; mental health patient, immigrant, black, woman and too nice to demand anything for herself. How can any medical professional walk away from collapsed person, face down on the floor.. deplorable! Im angry, she was someone and deserved better!
I could hear some of the frustration, anger, and sadness in your voice when telling parts of this story. You are an amazing story teller and your passion for it radiates. You’ve quickly become my favorite RUclipsr. Much love Petal!
How would any member of hospital staff look at a patient lying face down on floor and assume they were sleeping and not check on that patient and think that was ok???
im saying like??? its so fcking infuriating!! like yea, sleeping face down on the floor when security JUST talked to her literally 30 seconds ago is so normal.
And even if she was just sleeping, you'd think they'd wake her just to check on her and get her into a more comfortable position than laying face down on the floor
So NOT ONE PERSON offered this lady any food or water , a bed to sleep in 24 hrs😢😮. She was inpatient, admitted, but left to sit on a chair for that length of time!!!And the indignation of using their feet to check her responsiveness is disgraceful.
Things have changed in nursing since you and I had started. I worked with too many who shouldn't made it through the program. And administartion protected them despite they put patients an co-workers at risk.
Im not even medical professional, but the shoe-nudging was too much for me. I had to take a break and go get ice cream. Who does that? She wasnt worth of kneeling down? And why go to mental health profession, if you dont want to do the actual job? Full day, four shifts and they just periodically looked at her, even laying face first on the floor.. I might need more ice cream, this is unsettling in so many ways :(
Honestly this is how a lot of women are treated when they have a medical problem or even an emergency, I was in acute kidney failure and they wanted to send me home despite me, my grandma, and my mother (who’s a physician) saying something is seriously wrong we were all ignored no matter what they said or could prove, until my disabled grandfather came in and insisted they check the labs again. I had blood redrawn within 5 minutes and had my actual results within 25 minutes, and they showed my kidneys were failing. Had I gone home like they wanted me too I would have either lost both kidneys and been on dialysis for the rest of my life or I would have died. Women should be taken more seriously, I’m tired of us being treated like we are constantly hysterical. 9/10 times we are actually experiencing a medical problem.
It’s even more depressing when your family gaslights you along with the medical professionals. Every time I've pushed hard enough to actually get checked out, I've been right about something being wrong, yet they *still* shrug off everything I say as anxiety and paranoia. Which is absurd because I'm a pretty laid-back person and have never struggled with health anxiety at all.
@@veronicalagor4771 And it was the person on the bottom rung, with the least amount of training and authority. Never the people at the top who are running things.
@baie9944 especially the doctor that switched her from high priority to low priority based on a test he did without even looking at the actual patient
Even sadder is that a nurse aid could vehemently inform every doctor in the ER that a patient is in a dangerous state and no one would have listened. And she still would take the heat.
Having been a former hospital security guard, I know for a fact late night shifts aren’t busy so ATLEAST they could’ve helped her plus there is no way I would’ve seen a patient like that and not did anything! They deserve to be fired too
As someone who knows what it’s like to be a very mentally Ill person being left in waiting room or beds In a hallway or hospital basements this hurts my heart so badly. This woman went there for help and was completely neglected
@@midnight_x_editsthey do have certifications just not licenses. You have to take a state board exam to be licensed. CNAs are considered UAPs..."unlicensed assistance personnel". Which means everything they do is supposed to be ultimately the responsibility of the licensed person, that CNA should def not have been the only one who got charges...
these people need to be in fkn jail!!!! as a student nurse i cannot stand seeing someone who’s sick or feeling unwell let alone collapsed faced down and not helping… it just makes my blood boil
I am not defending these people bc this was disgusting but in all fairness this is a big city problem, there are bodies of homeless and drug addicts strewn everywhere in NY... the homeless and addicts coming in and trying to get some sleep in a hospital waiting room is a VERY common problem and liberals think they are protecting "POCs" by leaving them to get some sleep in the waiting rooms... those who stay in the lanes of "it's not my job to kick them out" also stay in the lanes of *_it is not my job to triage_*
People need to remember that they also have friends and family who no one knows how their lives will be and may need help. Life is cruel. Be careful how you treat others medical team.
As a current nurse, dont lose this empathy. You will lose employment over it but stay true to it...may you save as many as you humanly can kind soul....❤
I work in healthcare and I cannot even fathom seeing somebody in her state and not helping immediately. It is really frustrating to see that so many people go into the field without patient care being their top priority. This is unfortunately not surprising to hear that it happened within a psychiatric unit because I have witnessed firsthand how those patients and geriatric patients in memory units as well are mistreated and overlooked simply due to their mental state or inability to communicate their needs properly. I really hope this case gets all the attention it deserves and can be a real wake up call for healthcare workers and just people in general that we need to DO BETTER!
the fact that you can collapse in the one place you should be medically safe, only for staff to look at you and ignore you like filth boils my blood! I can understand other patients and/or family members of those patients not doing anything since they won't know Esmin's condition and since staff didn't do anything, they could have thought this was a "normal" occurance.
Had I been in that waiting room, I definitely would've gotten her help! Nothing about someone laying face down on the floor of a hospital seems right to me and it screams, get immediate help!
@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206 while I agree that nothing about the situation is right, we don't know what the other people in that room were dealing with at the time, if they were all patients then they were probably not in the right state of mind themselves to understand the gravity of the situation, and if those people were family members of other patients, they might have been so concerned with their own family member that they just let it fly, seeing as multiple staff didn't even seem bothered.
@@Nyxxeonn I'm sorry, I wasn't blaming or judging anyone. I was on my lunch break and didn't think it thru apparently, as I didn't mean to come off as sounding like I was blaming anyone that was there for treatment. I only blame the hospital staff & security. Just saying what I'd do in any type of similar situation. ☮️💜
@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206I like to think I’d do the same, getting her help. If I am mentally stable I would for sure have help even if it were just rolling her over to her side in recovery position
Petal, what you do is SO important. These cases need to be aired, and those involved held accountable for their appalling behaviour. Call these people out - there is far too much 'secrecy' around medical abuse. I salute you, and might add that your voice is perfect for this type of narration! Keep up the great work, I'm sure that the families affected are grateful. ❤
Lacking. I had surgery and was treated like a body part by every single staff member at the hospital. I have had friends with serious health conditions be ignored in the ER or left bleeding out and sent home because their insurance is not great. A friend was wheeled out and left on a bench with a vomit bag around his neck and still in his hospital gown while dealing with gastroparesis. Imagine that sight when picking up a loved one and realizing there’s no empathy in the medical field. If you’re Black or Native/Latinx, going to the hospital may mean you still don’t get help like in this story.
@@cafreria_en_potewhy is usa so backwards when it comes to race and humanitarian fields like education and health care? And no I'm not talking about the scientific side of things.
Christ. I understand people become hardened and burnt out, but this is a level of indifference that's beyond comprehension. Rest in pace, Esmin. You deserved better.
Esmin made the ultimate sacrifice and has still impacted so many. She has changed a hospital's whole operation so that better care can be given to patients. She is a queen, an angel, and a hero.❤
Wow. This was so triggering. I live in Brooklyn and about 3 years ago I was admitted to kings county psychiatric er. I am bipolar and was actively manic. I was there for about 4 hours then they discharged me. Of course, in my manic state, I was joyed to be released. But I should’ve NEVER been discharged. Thank God the next day my partner contacted my treating psychiatrist at Down state hospital and I was seen immediately. He said I should’ve never been released because I needed a meds adjustment. The meds I was being prescribed were too stimulating for someone who was manic. In retrospect, I’m not a doctor but it’s common sense that stimulating meds should be discontinued for someone who is manic. Had my partner not contacted my psychiatrist the next day, I might not be here today.
Your partner was given the responsibility of making vital medical decisions for you, and made the right call. I am more and more fearful of the responsibility for my own care that I do not feel qualified to make. My husband is showing signs of cognitive decline. I don't think I want him in charge anymore either. I'm glad your partner is someone you can count on.
I have friend with bipolar and have seen her in the mania state - first time I was so worried, I didn’t sleep the whole night (because she didn’t, naturally), strongly felt like I needed to keep an eye on her and act as a damper against her wildest ideas. I was in my early 20s, probably didn’t know anything about bipolar, only that it existed. Suddenly our traditional hair dying & mani-pedi sleepover with drinks had taken very unexpected turn and my best guess tactic was to play goalie to her rapid fire slapshots, sorta. When morning (and her spouse, who had been out drinking) came, we called an ambulance and she got the help she needed. Phew! I couldn’t nor wouldn’t want to even imagine what she could’ve done on her own, even less for her to be sent back home from the hospital in that state! Hell no. Even lay-person can tell something is wrong! I just keep shaking my head in disbelief.. You’re so lucky to have your partner, who was present, willing and able to look after you, when the medical professionals failed you horribly. And to have an actual, caring doctor in your corner. I wonder, would they have paid your funeral, if you were alone and would’ve ended playing chicken with trains or something? In my mind it would’ve been on them, they should’ve known the risks. It doesn’t seem like Kill County has enhanced anything, when yours happened over 10 YEARS after Esmins deplorable treatment..
@@janemiettinen5176 i also was transported to an open house like setting, mid bipolar episode. I had been blacking out and hadn’t slept in 9 days by the time I got to the hospital. They were so quick to get rid of me, thank god that when I got into the back of the ambulance to that house I was starting to come to a little. I still wasn’t fully okay, but my episode made me extremely afraid of everything, so I was terrified to run or leave so I finally got convinced by one of my close friends to start taking the antipsychotics…because I was almost going to refuse the medication because I was so terrified and paranoid, not trusting anyone. So I can’t even imagine how much worse it could have been if I wasn’t as terrified of everything as I was or I had the idea to run away or something…it could’ve been really bad. Mental health really needs to be taken a lot more seriously than it is, they actually discriminate against people almost immediately in a lot of situations.
"i might not be here today!!!" lmfao mania will not kill you. you might make some bad decisions, but the chance of DYING is literally zero. i'm an amphetamine addict who has been in a 'manic' state quite often and you're being so extremely dramatic like chilllll.
This happened to me. I almost died. Thank God a nurse tech saw me in the waiting room and lost his mind, he saved me! Everyone else ignored my desperate situation ( anaphylaxis ). The sign in nurse was a totally uncaring person and refused to rush anything, even for someone in an emergency, I had rounded a corner as I walked back to the sign in desk for help as I had started to black out and couldn't breathe, and I ran into a group of young Dr's and nurses literally taking bets on what drug I had taken to cause me to do this!!!?? I was incensed but threw up on the floor, they ran grabbed a bag of vomit and ran back to test it for drugs without even talking to me!!! I went back to the waiting room as told to by the sign in nurse again. As I was loosing consciousness a male nurse walked in and saw me and lost it! He started screaming and calling for help and a wheel chair and an emergency room for me! He ran me back to a room, sedated me and set me up with a drip as he pulled me back to safety!! Everyone else there was going to let me die in waiting!!!!!! P.S. the nurses and do tors taking bets on the hallway ran tests and found nothing in my system.. but nota darn one appologised to me after.....
This absolutely broke my heart💔 blood clots and extremely high blood sugars cause mental killed symptoms including hallucinations. This woman was living the American Dream, built on her hard work. She supported her family here and in her home country. Those people who watched and let her die should NEVER be around patients again.💔💔💔💔
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As a retired ICU nurse, this makes my blood boil. The second Esmin hit the floor, not only should “heroic lifesaving measures” been taken but what about just normal human care and compassion? Imagine dying alone surrounded by caregivers…this tragedy is heartbreaking and infuriating.
You sat up here, went to school, paid for your education, and probably told everyone within ear shot how you’re going into nursing because you “Love to help people” only to let the people you vow to save die on the floor and will even go so far as to kick them to see if they’re still alive! And that’s forever my fear as someone who has seen hospital walls more times than Ive been alive. I will never understand. And honestly, I am slightly nervous about trying.
At this point if I'm unconscious on the floor in a waiting room, the nurse who kicks me is better than the ones who just roll their eyes and decide I'm acting out!
Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t care anymore! They go to school to make money and not to work/help. It’s disgusting and sad! This is everyday and all day..
@@meloyello3904 Money has its uses and is necessary, but even atheists usually regard service and kindness to others as a better way to value life. I think the apathy you are talking about grows in children who don't see their parents much because they're out trying to make that necessary money, and who see too much of teachers who are exhausted and given too much blame and too little power to make decisions. I don't know. I just see a lot of children who haven't developed empathy and the biggest change is that they don't have a parent at home.
@sherilynn1310 they don't develop the apathy as kids. Nursing is incredibly short staffed. Hospital administrators do not care if people die - they just want to cut spending by staffing the bare minimum. I've seen nurses work 16 hour days 6+ days in a row. The ones who get into nursing to help people either leave or they become apathetic. You don't have the time to do your job properly. Your bosses and patients treat you like crap. Multiple nurses get assaulted and are told to roll with it. Our healthcare system is completely rotten.
I had to take my sister to A&E once and just as the nurse called her she had an intense faint. The nurse just stood there and told her to ‘wake up’ as she was very obviously unconscious and I was just trying to keep her head secure. She then refused to make a note of the faint despite me reminding her. Fortunately my sister recovered quickly, but I was so mad. I work in dental care and I see it sadly fairly often where patients are ‘acting out’ or ‘overreacting’ and staff will just roll their eyes and carry on with their day
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So many people failed this poor woman! I enjoyed your presentation and thank you for bringing this tragic story to our attention. This should never happen to anyone!!!
Is there a more beautiful woman who has ever been born? Petal is so far above, so intelligent, articulate, compassionate, and stunningly beautiful. Thank you, Petal, for your time, your shedding light on very difficult subjects.
I've been medically gaslit almost to the point of dying twice in New York State. There's no care in the medical care industry, and no recourse for patients. I hate the stink people make over "access" to medical professionals. They don't care about people's health, so accessing them doesn't help us.
I was misdiagnpsed with Schizophrenia in 1999. I qas correctly diagnosed with MS in 2010. The "hallucinations" were actually neuropathy, causing the sensation of cobwebs and crawling bugs. I was able to demonstrate that I knew that these sensations weren't bugs or cobwebs, nut that is what rhey felt like. In psychiatry, this is called reality-checking, and is a clear indication that a person does NOT have schizophrenia. I now have Tardive Dyskinesia and Tardive Dystonia from taking insane amounts of psychiatric medications that I did not need. I also missed out onS treatments which slow down the progressive incurable disease. These MS treatments work best when they are started early.in the disease process. Since I had MS for ar least 11 years before it was correctly diagnosed, I missed put on getting appropriate treatments at the time they would have been most effective. Also, I was acrually in the drug study for Abilify, an anti-psychotic drug, before it was FDA-approved. So, at least one person in the studies for Abolify's safety and efficacy for treating psychosis rid not actually have psychosis nor any other perception disorder for which that drug was approved, at that time or since. One MRI. That's all it would have taken. Paychiatry is the only field of medicine where the organ/system that they treat does not first get imaged, physically look at or tested in some other manner. One damned MRI.
I watched a video that had a doctor on it who had patients with MS and other diseases and in her research to find a cure she found out that the majority of her patients had parasites, in the spinal column area, the reason the radiologist do not find the parasites on the images taken is because they are not taught to look for them. That taking a cocktail of natural remedies such as Black walnut green hull, Cloves and wormwood get rid of 99% of the majority, and the patients health improved, even the cancer in the body shrunk. I had years of blood tests, tons of scan cat scans MRI they kept telling me there was nothing wrong with me all in my head, or the Endometriosis, which i knew it wasn't, over a ten year period then I had sepsis and they eventually found the several internal abscesses making tracks throughout my body creating more abscesses. the main one attached to my colon the size of a mug, yet they saw nothing in the scans???
I hear you, hon. I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia back in the late '80s and early '90s. No-one reality checked me; my "hallucinations" were me seeing motion in the corner of my eye. Unfortunately, I had autism, which at the time had nearly the same diagnostic criteria as schizophrenia. Hallucinations were the only difference. I finally got correctly diagnosed in my 40s. My memory is permanently damaged due to the improper medications I had to take.
Yeah psychiatry to me is a hoax. Mental health issues are generally disorders caused by something else going on in the body. Without the root cause, you get crappy treatment like dangerous antidepressants and psych drugs.
So sorry to both of you. Personally, I think a lot of people are written off with a psychiatric condition when that's not the case at all. It's like if they didn't learn it in school "it can't be possible" so "it must be in your head". I can't tell you how many times things have happened to me that "no Dr ever heard of" or they claimed "wasn't possible". I'm like a medical anomaly every time something happens, which thank God isn't very often. But it's still frustrating when it happens. First time it happened was as a child. My ears don't clean themselves properly, like the wax won't come out, so I have to get them professionally cleaned and when I was a kid and they would do it, it didn't bother my ears but for some reason it BURNED my eyes like fire and I would scream and cry and the doctor world tell me that wasn't possible, but it was, because it DID! That was the beginning of my distrust of doctors and my opinion/experience has not improved since becoming an adult and now a middle aged adult (39). I hate doctors SO much that I have panic attacks if my body feels the slightest bit off or sick. Like I literally have health anxiety as an adult now and it's mainly due to past experiences I've had with Drs.
ALL of them should have been charged!!! This is the textbook definition of "cascading failure", from start to end, just failure upon failure. I wish I could honestly say "I can't believe..." but sadly, I CAN believe that they chose to charge only the least experienced person at the bottom of the ladder instead of ANY of the others in higher roles: not the nurses, the doctors, the security guards. Sure, their names and faces are out there, and some would say that's punishment enough, but... The sheer lack of humanity is just enraging. If they were drowning in patients and lack of resources that would be one thing, but this is just inexcusable. This was SO preventable.
i don't understand why the psychiatrist couldn't perform the medical exam. he has a medical degree, that's literally what differentiates psychologists from psychiatrists and allows psychiatrists to prescribe medication. he's perfectly qualified to perform a basic medical exam.
Another great video. I didnt know I would bawl my eyes. I can't imagine how she felt,waiting for help among people who took an oath to protect human life only to die in their hands.
A few years ago I was having severe stomach pain, naturally, I'd gone to the hospital thinking it was some kind of infection or organ failure of some sort. They told me it was just some form of period pain (I wasn't on it at the time) and was given a few Panadol and told to leave. Around a week later the pain was still there, so I went to my doctor and got a scan organised. It turns out I had severe gallbladder inflammation, and had several stones stuck in the bile duct. Once more, I went to the hospital and was told to wait a few hours for a bed... After throwing up and fainting I was admitted while unconsious. In between getting to the hospital and fainting, my gallbladder ruptured, so I spent around a month in the hospital recovering from sepsis. I told my doctor later that it was strange that they thought it was period pain, she told me it was because I had bipolar disorder, that they thought I was having an episode
Sans the mistreatment, I also suffered from my gallbladder rupturing, spending a week in pain before going to the hospital. I hope you're doing well! You deserve a lot better than what you experienced
Holy geezus...I had this same thing happen to me but I guess I was lucky because I already knew I had gall stones at the time. I went to the hospital, was given pain meds, had to fly home (because I was away at the time), ended up back in the hospital. Then the next day finally saw a specialist and I think it was basically the next day after that I had a procedure done to remove the stuck stone. My gall bladder surgery was done maybe like a week after that, but it had been scheduled for that time well before my trip out of state. To be honest, I shouldn't have left the state but I literally had no clue my gall bladder could do all of that....
I live Brooklyn N.Y and very close to this hospital. I will never forget this story. Especially because I was having a miscarriage in 07 at this hospital and a staff laughed at me like I didn’t know what I was talking about. On top of that I lost my child and spent the night with his body, crying and taking videos 😢😢😢😢 To this day I am still messed up because of that night in this hospital. I always think about what happened. Even when getting discharged I had to ask what would happen to the body because he was still in the room alone under my flowers😢😢😢😢
this is why i want to go into medicine. i just had my first day at the hospital today and ive seen a lot of stuff already. i want to be a part of the good
Ill be thinking of you and your goals. In fact all ive seen with medical is awful.... People judging my mom who had psychosis and sighing, gossiping with other staff and ignoring her.. Once i had gastrtis and panic atracks and went to ER, had a huge stomach infection with "bacterial gas everywhere!!!" according to the lead doc reading the x ray, and he lookrd at my male friend and said "bend your girlfriend over and tell her to fart. Shes holding her farts!!!" he shouted this for the whole control room, where he had brought me to see his computer and the x ray with a systemic weird bacterial infection. Dr laughed and made gross sex jokes while i continued to hyperventilating from a panic attack (caused by infection) and deny that im "not holding my farts" while standing and laughing to all the staff in the room.. I was crying at that point and hyperventilating. Also im a lesbian, d1ckhead!!! Anyway it was a stomach infection. Your farts dont go up to your stomach and esophagus.. Wtf.. This was a head dr at a hospital!!! Then he said okay, you might have cancer then. Heres an apt to whatever. Pointless colonoscopy. It was, in the end, a stomach condition cause. Who would have thought!! D1ckface!!
I pray you maintain that attitude. We need physicians that are grounded in compassion, able to utilize common sense as well as astute medical practitioners
What a compassionate account of someone’s life you did Petal. Adore your name too! Your voice and demeanor exudes such grace and it truly defines the lovely person Esmind was.
Thats really, really horrible. The fact that people cant even be certain of their own safety in a hospital, or that theyll be treated with dignity and respect, is extremely horrible. This woman never had to die.
I was put in psych because my feet hurt too much to walk, lasting about 3 months. The doctor said I was taking away his ability to be there for his "normal" patients. stinker. Turns out I was suffering from vitamin B6 overload. PS Haldol makes you want to pace. It's horrible
I got kicked by a horse. I was writhing on the floor crying and screaming in pain. I did that for 3 hrs. I had a broken vertibrea and it was against my spinal cord. My neck wasn't actually attached. I could have been paralyzed. I was vomiting.
@@hannahrosa5485 Years ago, there was a couple where we lived whose adult son spent a lot of time walking the neighborhood. He lived in a tent in their backyard because he didn’t like being inside. There were neighbors who claimed he’d ruined his brain with drugs, but I pointed out that he could have a mental illness and the meds were why he walked compulsively. That shut them up. His parents kept to themselves, so nobody knew for sure. I hated that people were so willing to basically blame him for what was probably an illness and not his fault.
@@MamacitaNatural I hear so many stories from nurses who are run off their feet during shifts: barely any time to use the restroom, lucky to get five minutes to inhale some food. Meanwhile, these 🤡🤡 are sitting around taking hour-long breaks instead of doing basic checks on their patients. And of course the only one who was criminally charged was a nursing aide, the employee on the bottom rung with the least amount of authority.
I used to work the night shift @ a hospital in the psychiatric unit. I was SHOCKED that the majority of the staff did what I called “imaginary rounds” i.e for the 15-30 minute checks the staff just wrote that they had done them when they hadn’t. The LPN & RN’s knew knew this was happening & were also negligent. The staff covered for other staff so they could take hour long breaks where they would sleep. Also, almost every night they would have “dinners” where everyone would bring a dish & then the staff would be enjoying their meals, talking etc. Many hospitals even medical units slack off during the night shift when the “top” people are gone. It’s very scary & an embarrassment to the American health system!
I believe every word you say. Insane how lazy and disturbing this Is. If someone dies of neglect the whole staff of that Shift should face legal consequences (in my Option a couple of years in prison) In this Case there are even Multiple shifts involved..gross
I've been hospitalized a lot in my life and I've been nocturnal since I left "standard" schooling due to disability when I was 15. My experience is that staff basically disappear from 1am, when even the most dedicated doctors go home, to 5am, when doctors begin their rounds. I figure they're sleeping, like you said, or they're all hanging out in the same room. I've actually knocked on doors to ask, "Hey, can I get a bunch of juice boxes? I'm really thirsty and tend to choke up plain water." I don't begrudge it, really, for typical heart floors or step-down, but it's infuriating when the ER staff do it.
As a medical student with a strong interest in psychiatry, this breaks my heart. I'm so sorry for Esmin and her family. She didn't deserve this. No-one deserves this.
Being mentally ill health care and access to good healthcare is complicated most times. They tend to assume we exaggerate our symptoms or we're too mentally ill to give valid feedback about our own health. They'd rather ignore us than run tests & actually find what the real problem is.
i'm a therapist and omg haldol AND risperidal AND ativan AND xanax?? that combo sounds so dangerous like that sounds like it would knock you out permanently. i don't think anyone would be compliant with that. it sounds horrible.
Thank you SO much for bringing light to these issues, as someone who is chronically ill with autoimmune diseases that have caused me to battle the healthcare industry just for BASIC CARE that they STILL WON’T PROVIDE 😞
I’m not a mental health pro, but I’ve dealt with anxiety and depression. It seems atypical for her to develop schizophrenia at midlife. It sounds like she was healthy and functioning in Jamaica. I wonder if stress, homesickness, and missing her family triggered severe depression. There is a form called agitated depression that includes pacing and restlessness. Severe depression can sometimes trigger psychosis-it’s what happened to Andrea Yates. It’s so utterly tragic what happened to Esmin, and I wonder if returning to her family in Jamaica would have been better for her mental health.
It sounds like she was under a massive amount of stress. I can’t imagine working that much while being apart from my family. That loss, plus knowing that she was her family’s safety net and that she herself lacked a safety net, could push anyone into intense depression/psychosis. Her psychological break should have been a sign that she needed support, but instead it marginalized her even further
@@bubblescheck3359 False. You can easily even google this information: "Women tend to get diagnosed in their late 20s to early 30s. People rarely develop schizophrenia before they're 12 or after they're 40."
Thank you for bringing awareness for this case and highlighting the beauty of Jamaica. With regards to this case, it is very sad and disturbing that this woman was neglected and not provided the care she needed, they are responsible for her death! Locally, we refer to Kings County Hospital as “Killer County.” The service there is awful, I have been there on numerous occasions. On one occasion, I had chest pains and was not seen. Instead, the woman at the front desk interrogated me about the intensity and description of my pain despite having a heart condition (noted on file) 🙄. I left immediately to find care elsewhere. Killer County is the WORST! RIP Ms. Green!
Not many men or women are this articulate. She is so intelligent and able. I am glad she is on the side of making things better instead of taking, taking, taking; me, me, me.
I’m so mad that only the aide was charged! He was working under the license of the nurse. She was responsible as well. It sounds like the hospital had the same lazy culture that happens when admins are greedy. Short staff, bad supervision, etc. I’m so sorry for the loss of this woman. ❤
I think the meds play a big part of it They are quick to prescribe multiple meds When I had to pass those meds I worried about some of those patients Especially the ones who didn't always have a healthy lifestyle with food, other health issues and such They were to busy just trying to survive daya to day. There was one parrticular med they put everyone one on as the miracle drug which I won't mention and put on huge doses. We started to lose patients and some later on. I still remember many of them to this day. We could avocate, but we were shut down with our concerns.
Please stay on top of your health. My family has dealt with similar things and us younger generations are learning that a trip to the doctor might save us a lot later. I hope you stay safe ❤
I think the meds are really rough on the system's. My son is squizopreninic and he has issues with his legs swelling and draining. He used to walk 5 miles a day including work.
you're not alone either! i literally just found out a few hours ago that many antipsychotics and antidepressants can cause high cholesterol, in addition to weight gain (including the one i'm on, after i just got labs back saying mine is high). so it seems to be a problem compounded on my multiple factors :(
Due to my intense health anxiety, I've been to multiple hospitals. I'm from Greece, for reference. Here, doctors are obliged by the law to automatically do any actual physical examinations based on the symptoms you describe or that are visible, without any waiting or bypassing it by saying they're registered in a computer. They do EVERYTHING, without having to beg them. But in the US, it seems that examinations are bypassed and dead people like Esmin are ignored for an entire day INSIDE A HOSPITAL. May she rest in peace.
exactly, same in spain. sure negligence happens everywhere but i’ve never heard stories like these in my country’s healthcare system, where usually in urgency care you’re met with all the tests and examinations you’d need based in symptoms. It’s heartbreaking to see cases like Esmin’s that could have been avoided if professionals showed more empathy and were actual professionals 💔
These are tragic and sad stories that you cover but you explain them so well and I learn so much. You are very knowledgeable and you have a way of explaining complex things in very clear and understandable ways. You seem like you'd be a great professor or medical professional. You really have a gift.
I'm not from the US and went through a similar situation aswell. Not from a physical injury, but a mental illness. One time i went to the emergency room because i was having a psychotic episode. I had to wait for about 7 hours and when i finally got to talk to someone they just told me that it was nothing. NOTHING. I even got my blood drawn and had to pee in a cup because they thought i was on drugs. It was so unnecessary, man. They had my medical records right in front of their stupid faces. I was having all types of thoughts and they didn't take me seriously at all. I felt so alone and helpless Ps: this happened by the end of may (2024)
I’m so angered and confused at doctors acting like since the illness is in your brain, they’re allowed to just wash their hands of it. The brain is still an organ in the body - it’s still your flipping JOB to treat anything wrong with it. If you personally can’t because it’s not your specialty, that’s completely understandable, but you’re still required to get the patient treatment from the acceptable physician if you can’t. What you don’t get to do is act like it’s not real just because the problem didn’t show up on a urine test.
I had a similar experience- went to a children’s hospital ER in my city for psychosis (I was worried I was going to hurt myself because of the increasing delusions) and I was left the wait in the ER for 7 hours. When I was finally triaged, they left me in the hospital room without treatment for at least 1/2 an hour, after which I was told that I could not be treated there because I was a legal adult… even though my parents had called the ER explaining the situation ahead of driving there, and they assured us that I was able to be treated as an 18 year old. Luckily I had my family to advocate for me, and then to wait up with me and drive me to another hospital in the middle of the night where I could actually receive inpatient treatment. If I was all alone experiencing this, I’m not sure I’d still be here today. A friend of mine who works at the same children’s hospital I went to all those years ago, told me that a psychotic episode with fear of self-harming tendencies should be treated as a top priority in triage from her training… so I’m not sure why I was neglected for 7 hours. Hopefully things have changed in the last 10 years.
I've worked in hospitals and nursing homes for 15 years and this makes me sick to my stomach. I've seen nurses who act this way and it always baffles my mind.
RN here... This is absolutely sickening- and one of the main reasons I left the hospital to practice community health. Shame on every single one of the people who ignored her. They should all lose their licenses.
Wow. You think being in that situation, the best place to be would be a hospital. Clearly not. That doctor and all of the staff who was seen on camera needs to be charged for atleast neglect. This is disgusting and I'm glad you brought this to light. Thank you. You are a beautiful soul❤❤
I live in the Bronx and was in the ER with chest pain. The didn't have an EKG machine. It was just a panic attack but if I was actually having a cardiac event I could of ended up just like her. This is disgusting
that is horrifying. when i had a pulmonary embolism the first thing they did was give me an EKG to make sure it wasn't a heart attack. when that came back clear they sent me for an MRI with contrast and that lit up the clots like a christmas tree. i had been having chest pains for over 12 hours at that point, the clock was definitely ticking.
My brother has a mental illness and it breaks my heart how he is treated. From family “friends“ and all the drs that we take him to for help. He is treated less than all too often. He’s 47 and has a mind of a teenager. God bless her ❤
I am a strange person. My rage tends to manifest towards computer problems instead of human problems. This case is making my blood boil. I am so, so angry. What the hell? This isn't mere medical neglect, this is a straight up moral failure.
i try not to ascribe morality to things because everyone's moral flowchart is different but when a licensed medical physician pokes their head in a waiting room, sees someone lying face-down on the floor not moving, and just WALKS AWAY, that is not medical neglect, that is medical malfeasance with malice.
As an RN in the ER, I am appalled. I pray I never allow myself to become even a fraction as indifferent as the staff involved in this tragic loss of precious human life.
Your delivery only gets sharper. Your lighting is perfect. The fit is great, and I’m always here for a dark lip stain! Thanks again for amazing content Petal!
This pisses me off so much! In 2009 I was a psychiatric nurse on a mens unit. Even back then we had a specific tech EVERY shift that made 15 minute rounds to verify that each and every patient was safe and accounted for. As nurses we were required to make rounds every hour to confirm what tech said. I am disgusted with each of those staff members. The doctor doesn't surprise me they DO NOT like getting their hands dirty. The nurses and techs blow my mind. Absolutely senseless, they have hearts of stone 😢
I've been in a psych ward three times, and I know countless people who have been put in one, and we all say the same thing; they suck. The doctors, nurses, and other staff do not give a flying flip about the people there no matter if it's attached to a bigger hospital or a standalone place. The last one I was at there was another patient who had a stomach band to help with her weight issues and she was supposed to eat smaller meals throughout the day, but they basically fed us breakfast/lunch/dinner with no snacks and we weren't allowed food outside the cafeteria area under any circumstances. When she asked for an accommodation to be able to bring in her own snack foods and store them there and go eat more frequently she was told no, and even after her doctor called in and told them that's what she needed they said it was against policy and she would not be allowed to eat outside the designated times unless she had diabetes or a similar condition that would be life-threatening if she wasn't allowed that. Same place also forcibly drugged me each night I was there; I'm a night owl, and am typically asleep from 7am to 3pm because that's my natural circadian rhythm. They didn't want to hear it and told me I could sleep 'regular hours' [10pm to 6am] or they'd make me. When I said "fine, make me" that was....a mistake. They strapped me down, forcibly injected me with a sedative, and then left me there all night with no one checking on me at all to make sure I wasn't overdosed or having an allergic reaction or something. Several of my friends have been assaulted, had stuff stolen, and been told that they need to 'behave and do as told' or else the psych docs would make sure they were never allowed to get out. Mental health care in the US is a joke, no one cares and people take advantage because "You're crazy, who's going to believe you?" as one of the nurses that drugged me said when I threatened to have the place investigated for doing that. Lots of these places don't have cameras, or if they do it's only in the admitting areas and such because they can say filming patients is a violation of HIPPA and courts are like yeah that makes sense. And a lot of them aren't accountable to anyone, if the victims are believed [which in a lot of cases they aren't] then filing a lawsuit against any medical establishment is a huge mountain to climb and often isn't successful, or if it is the money gained by the victims and/or their families isn't nearly enough for how much they've suffered and then the medical establishment goes right back to business as usual :/
Oh man, regarding the meals allowed...I'm vegetarian with vegan preferences (still required to eat some dairy due to low bone density, but I keep it minimal), and have been for all of my adult life. In the psych ward of my hospital, they consistently would only serve me meals that were composed of meat and animal products, despite the fact that they had vegetarian options available to the rest of the hospital. And then they wondered why my health started to flag due to malnutrition after a short stint there, since I could only eat about a fruit cup and a serving of vegetables consisting of about 300 calories total daily.
Someone lying unconscious and dying on the floor of a hospital filled with countless doctors who could’ve saved them is such a sad way to pass
Lisa Edwards in Knoxville, TN was sad like this, too. She went to the hospital and really WAS having problems. But she got discharged once (and should not have been) and the cops arrested her. They treated her like POS and were so horribly hateful to her. Long story short, she died in the cops car while they were talking crap about her. These cases make my heart hurt
@@AlphaFemmeXtinethat case is heartbreaking. I work in healthcare and I was disgusting to my core learning about that case.
It sure was. That's a case I was reminded of as well when I watched this@wayierotoro
@@AlphaFemmeXtineI remember that case. So sad, and disgusting how they treated her.
It makes me so angry! Poor lady ❤
I witnessed a lady die in an ER years ago in a NYC hospital. The staff didn’t believe that she was having chest pains and thought she was just being dramatic. After she yelled, screamed and pleaded for help, she collapsed. At first the staff was laughing and mocking her, then they went into panic mode
They laughed at her?!
I am wondering if this patient was black?😢
Thank God for security Cameras.
that’s sickening. the medical industry is full of psychopaths
Was this kings county?
I lost my 21 year old son Jordan on 10/17/22. He walked into the ER, I told them over and over he was having a stroke. He had had kidney disease for 9 years, and I knew the signs. They thought I was just a hysterical mom who was clueless. He stroked out in front of an entire hospital of doctors and nurses who were NOT busy-they were joking around and talking as I begged for help and my son screamed in agony. The stroke took out his entire brain stem. I am so angry!!!! We tried to hold them accountable, the one competent medical personnel who was there was supposed to be our star witness, but the hospital got to her. They threatened her so she backed out of testifying. The hospital continues to destroy families every day now.
That is a terrible thing to go thru, both you & your son. I pray he is in peace and that your heart will be healed of this devastation.
I am so sorry this happened to you, I recommend getting a good lawyer and contacting lots of news channels and RUclips channels simultaneously to tell the story. Hospitals won’t do anything unless they’re forced ❤
I am so Sorry. Can you tell us the hospital so nobody goes there? Fortunately here in Wisconsin we don't have those issues.
That’s horrible, I would be livid, I can’t imagine how helpless that has to feel. I’m so sorry that happened to you and your family.
I'm so sorry about your son. A coworker had a similar story with her son who had heart problems. She cried forever for his loss. May time be your healer and God bless you and grant you every night a good rest.
As a psychologist, I'm shocked they "diagnosed" her with schizophrenia so quickly without a medical workup. There are A LOT of medical issues that can present as paranoia and schizoaffective disorders. Hospitals are blatantly incompetent when it comes to mental health, and it's far more common than it should be, unfortunately.
as someone who has a lot of disabilities and disorders, i’m not. My Psychiatrist has another patient with c-ptsd and autism, and when they went into the ER/ED they got diagnosed with BPD. My psych works at that department yet still cannot get the misdiagnosis off of all of his patients documents.
Absolutely. I had a lot of similar symptoms to this woman. I was at first diagnosed with an unspecified dissociative disorder bc I went for psych treatment inpatient. In the first year or so of my symptoms I thought it was psychiatric. That was until I started having temporary partial paralysis from the waist down that came and went, during those times I had to get a catheter in the ER. But they'd just send me home right after. Ultimately it was determined that I had autoimmune encephalopathy from underlying conditions. I've been diagnosed with Crohn's disease and am about to see a specialist for suspected Ankylosing spondylitis. Since a long course of steroids in 2022 I'm still recovering and a lot of my memory is gone. But I'm so grateful that I have my wonderful wife who tended to me constantly and made sure I was okay. If not for her, there's no telling what could have happened to me.
My boyfriend works in a hospital, he works in the kitchen and brings food to patients. He walked into the elevator a couple weeks ago and there was a woman sitting on the floor struggling to breath. He immediately ran to grab help. I can’t fathom the fact that the actual doctors and nurses just stared at her on the floor like that. Poor woman
sometimes the support staff in hospitals are more caring than the actual medically trained staff..... hate to say it but some of them feel so high and mighty that they regard patients like nobodies.
BLESS YOUR HUSBAND 🙌🏾🙏🏽
I remember that I had thrush. I came into the emergency room three times. My internist told me to go back to the emergency room or else my throat would close up. I received a cat scan. This person who worked in the emergency room told me to take an oral steroid. I was terrified. The worker said it was for a life threatening situation. I refused. Then, an ears , nose, and throat doctor came in to say that a steroid would make my thrush worse. Whenever I swallowed my saliva, my throat hurt badly. The EMT stuck something up my nose and down my throat. There were white spots in my throat. I saw a picture. It was gross. I was on a soft food diet. I stayed at the hospital for one day and two nights. After I was discharged, the manager from work told me to not come to work for two weeks. It would have been nice if the hospital admitted me the first time I came into the emergency room with thrush. I think that if I had permanent damages, I should have sued. I could have sued for pain and suffering. It took a long time to get admitted. Then I had trouble breathing.
A few yeara ago I fell down 4 flights of stairs needing multiple emergency surgeries a month in the hospital I have some severe trauma disorders and the one diagnosis is controversial. But regardless of what drs think about how the disorders is categorized or the lack of research still should follow the correct treatment that is shown to work and not disrupt other care without consulting their primary psychiatric care team. The emt booked it to the hospital (i saw a short an emt made about this exact type of situation of its never a good sign if they bang on the driver door and just assure me they with you, wont let anything happen, lots of people are gonna rush out to meet you soon don't be scared) but after i was admitef to the ER i was left alone, while bleeding out and my leg was an S. I kept screaming for help, i was seeing between red snd white light, was told to shut up old people are resting. I tried to stop screaming by dissociating as couldn't even lift my pants to show, no one since the emt even lookednat my leg. I started uncontrollably screaming as this was by far the worst pain of my life and told not onky shut up, but ilk be restrained saying they saw im mentally ill on my file and i just twisted my ankle, quit the drama and being a dumbaws or go home. I eventually mustered up just the words "I'm not ready to die, someone call my mom and dad, I don't want to die alone." The ole woman i was bothering wasnt complaining i was screaming she was begging staff to listen to me and eventually i was turning blue and she was worried I would die. Eventually it was the janitors, a lovely couple from west africa who ill never forget just looked st me, the husband held my hand while his wife working with him grabed med students touring the ER and their university supervisor, they flooded my room, called a code, was immediately wheeled into the OR to wait for the surgeon, scans done, realized I was nearly fead and at first thought my leg had to be completely amputated. Those two janitors not only listened and comforted me, they saved my life. And if they soent another 20 minutes and didnt grab as many people as possible right away instead of having metal bone implants id have lost my leg or died. My mental illnesses shouldn't impact my ability to just have my leg examed after the EMT told staff I was very hurt and needed a surgeon rifht away and likely blood transfusions. Then when staying in the hospital they lept me on psych watch, wouldn't let me even go outside with my parents as the floor psychiatrist say my file and decided I was faking my diagnosed disorder. Put me on bipolar meds which caused me to hallucinate but was told im lying, as i appear sedated. While yeah he gave me enough sedatives to knock out a horse. I felt worse. It was the attendant who brings food and helps with baths and stuff, not nurses or drs who stood up for me to the drs. She just went I'm a mother, i can see suffering, hes a good kid don't do this to him and his mom sitting here watching him cry seeing thingd he knows are in his head. They reduced the meds and let my mom take me outfront. My main nurse let me go for secret walks with another patient that was also a dr in his own life to the store to get snacks to feel better. It changed my moral so much. The drs were more worried about their egos and pushing their ideas onto random people based on passed history than listen. The way psych patients are treated when need medical help is nust diabolical
Also im so glad your bf and people like him work in hospitals. If he is that fast to care can only imagine how much he helps in tiny ways. Feeding the sick is an under appreciated and under paid but such an important job.
We are taught as EMTs that if a patient says “I feel like I’m going to die.” We take that seriously. Many times they are right. The sense of impending doom is a very serious symptom. It often accompanies strokes/blot clots.
That’s so interesting.
@@elyse443 Yes, I personally witnessed this twice (both strokes that didn’t end well, so unfortunately they were correct) it’s a fascinating thing.
Medical social worker here, I'm screaming code blue at the video and horrified at the apathy shown by all the staff.
An old man collapsed onto me when I was waiting at er once and I freaked and the nurse took forever to come check him and acted like I was over reacting and making a scene like one I’m also a patient and two another patient clearly much older and sicker than me just collapsed on me how am I supposed to handle that
I do not have medical training, however…this should have never happened to Ms. Green NOR anyone!!
I do work in the medical industry (no medical training & I am just in data analysis), HOWEVER, we all have to be CPR certified and trained as a first responder!!
I'm so thankful for medical/hospital social workers!! I wish more people understood they are there for them! I have had chronic kidney stones and infections that lead to sepsis and when it kicked back up again after a 10 year reprieve, I went into hysterics. I had not been treated well during some of my previous surgeries and dealt with secondary infections like MRSA....there was a lot of trauma. I reached out to the social worker for help getting the strength to proceed crying like a baby and she was so good with me. She was 100% compassionate, kind and helpful. She wrote up a letter explaining my past medical trauma and history for me to share with my future surgeon/s.
@@stormygirl1989that's absolutely terrible and terrifying, do you know if he was OK?
Clearly a case of people soft quitting and only doing it for the paycheck! Sadly you can find people like this everywhere....
The inhumane and stripping of any dignity is abhorrent. The worst thing to do was sitting for 24 hours. Perfectly healthy people die after long flights from this. It’s positively sickening to see this. My heart breaks for Esmin and her family.
People don't generally lay face down on a nasty hospital floor. This is sick. As a retired im mortified.
Agreed.
I once had a stomach bug so bad that I had to be hospitalized after not keeping any fluids in me for 8 hours. They knew I was sick when I dragged myself from my wheelchair in the waiting room and laid face down on the floor. Normally, I wouldn't even want to touch that floor with my hands, but I couldn't sit up anymore. And the floor was cold. It felt so good. You have to be on death's door to find relief in an ER floor.
It's horrifying that she didn't receive the same urgency from staff when she did that.
I totally agree! Curiously, are a you “a retired”…nurse, doctor, EMT? It wasn’t clear. Thanks.
Right
My mom used to have psychosis when she was experiencing bowel blockages. She had diverticulitis, we learned that any time she started to lose her mind, it meant she was septic becauseof a bowel obstruction. True story!!
Same thing can happen to the elderly with UTI's.
@@nunyabidness6045 Yes, true! I forgot about that, wild isn't it? So many times my mom was mistreated because they thought she was drunk or on something, but rather, she had an infection!
@@nunyabidness6045yes. as a lab professional that at one point was contracted to go into nursing homes to collect samples , any time i heard of a elderly patient seemingly having a random episode of mental delirium my first instinct is and was always “should add a urine culture”
One of the symptoms of a blood clot/heart attack is a feeling of impending doom ... she had a real feeling like she was dying and it was overlooked and lumped in with her schizophrenia. She never should have been treated this way. I hope she's at peace now.
That is true. Whats also true is the low IQ the staff had - to not realise their lack of responses were going to be seen on the camera! Geez. what were they thinking to get away with it.
I was thinking that too. Which is so so tragic. She knew it. She said she needed forgiveness 😢 a person can't do that, only God.
That's a really scary symptom to know when you have an anxiety disorder that always makes you feel that sense of dread.
Oddly, it's also a symptom of nasopharyngeal reflux, though it's more likely to strike when lying down.
If you're having panic attacks when you're trying to go to bed, see an gastroenterologist.
@@kcpoodlesofpa Forgiveness for what?
my mom was a paranoid schizophrenic and died in the same manor as Esmin. i never knew until now that there was a connection between schizophrenia and blood clots/thrombosis. this video & your coverage that actually gave me answers for my own grief. rest in peace Ms. Esmin Green, and thank you Petal 🖤 my mom didn't die due to the neglect Esmin did, but Esmin DESERVES justice. there needs to be way deeper research into the connection of schizophrenia & blood clots/embolisms so no other schizophrenic patient dies so horribly neglected
So sorry for your loss x
Poor Esmin, she was too easily overlooked; mental health patient, immigrant, black, woman and too nice to demand anything for herself. How can any medical professional walk away from collapsed person, face down on the floor.. deplorable! Im angry, she was someone and deserved better!
would think they'd be on it quick pronto,shows stupid is all colours
Those doctors sound like they could be immigrant, so it was her being a BW.
@@sORrYiMLaTe_wHAtdiDiMisSshes jamaican not black
@@midnight_x_edits Black people can be from anywhere just like white people can be from anywhere, the skin doesn’t change somebody’s from
I could hear some of the frustration, anger, and sadness in your voice when telling parts of this story. You are an amazing story teller and your passion for it radiates. You’ve quickly become my favorite RUclipsr. Much love Petal!
How would any member of hospital staff look at a patient lying face down on floor and assume they were sleeping and not check on that patient and think that was ok???
im saying like??? its so fcking infuriating!! like yea, sleeping face down on the floor when security JUST talked to her literally 30 seconds ago is so normal.
I’ve seen it.
And even if she was just sleeping, you'd think they'd wake her just to check on her and get her into a more comfortable position than laying face down on the floor
Because they dont care
Its new york nobody gives a shit about anyone
So NOT ONE PERSON offered this lady any food or water , a bed to sleep in 24 hrs😢😮. She was inpatient, admitted, but left to sit on a chair for that length of time!!!And the indignation of using their feet to check her responsiveness is disgraceful.
No! No! No! OMG!!!!? As a retired RN.,.. no way would I walk by and not do an assessment! This is sickening😢
Things have changed in nursing since you and I had started. I worked with too many who shouldn't made it through the program. And administartion protected them despite they put patients an co-workers at risk.
Im not even medical professional, but the shoe-nudging was too much for me. I had to take a break and go get ice cream. Who does that? She wasnt worth of kneeling down? And why go to mental health profession, if you dont want to do the actual job? Full day, four shifts and they just periodically looked at her, even laying face first on the floor.. I might need more ice cream, this is unsettling in so many ways :(
@@MagpieAnnie73 Sad 😢
@@MagpieAnnie73I stopped renewing my RN license after 5 years in the 90s. I saw even then where healthcare was going.
Just even call a code blue at the very least. I know this is a psych hospital but it's still medicine.
Honestly this is how a lot of women are treated when they have a medical problem or even an emergency, I was in acute kidney failure and they wanted to send me home despite me, my grandma, and my mother (who’s a physician) saying something is seriously wrong we were all ignored no matter what they said or could prove, until my disabled grandfather came in and insisted they check the labs again. I had blood redrawn within 5 minutes and had my actual results within 25 minutes, and they showed my kidneys were failing. Had I gone home like they wanted me too I would have either lost both kidneys and been on dialysis for the rest of my life or I would have died. Women should be taken more seriously, I’m tired of us being treated like we are constantly hysterical. 9/10 times we are actually experiencing a medical problem.
or when they decide to chalk it up to period pain 😬 Like bruh i know what my fucking period feels like, thats not IT
@@robyyyneYes! it can cause so many issues by belittling an entire population about their health.
@@robyyynea doctor said this to my friend…she had a baby not long before…turns out she had some placenta still inside her, she could have died
It’s even more depressing when your family gaslights you along with the medical professionals. Every time I've pushed hard enough to actually get checked out, I've been right about something being wrong, yet they *still* shrug off everything I say as anxiety and paranoia. Which is absurd because I'm a pretty laid-back person and have never struggled with health anxiety at all.
That is insane how only the nursing aid received charges, but unfortunately that makes sense with healthcare culture….
@@veronicalagor4771 And it was the person on the bottom rung, with the least amount of training and authority. Never the people at the top who are running things.
I agree that’s insane.. everybody should have been charged especially the nurses and doctors
@baie9944 especially the doctor that switched her from high priority to low priority based on a test he did without even looking at the actual patient
Of course, the one getting paid the least, the one with the least education, that's the person we think is responsible. Gosh
Even sadder is that a nurse aid could vehemently inform every doctor in the ER that a patient is in a dangerous state and no one would have listened. And she still would take the heat.
It amazes me how many people get into the medical field yet loathe helping people. I know burnout is a thing, but this is becoming endemic. 😢
A lot of people in the medical field just get in for the money, nothing else.
Having been a former hospital security guard, I know for a fact late night shifts aren’t busy so ATLEAST they could’ve helped her plus there is no way I would’ve seen a patient like that and not did anything! They deserve to be fired too
I can see them thinking ‘she’s being dramatic, she’s putting it on’ ‘these patients’. I’ve heard all that before.
As someone who knows what it’s like to be a very mentally Ill person being left in waiting room or beds In a hallway or hospital basements this hurts my heart so badly. This woman went there for help and was completely neglected
I am thinking of you and hoping you can stay well. You are worthy of love and proper care.
Nobody without an advocate with them while being very ill is safe even in a hospital apparently...gross but true
So, the only person who was legally held accountable is the unlicensed staff member, even though the licensed staff also falsified records?
So technically cnas are licensed but not by the state medical board or board of nursing
@@midnight_x_editsthey do have certifications just not licenses. You have to take a state board exam to be licensed. CNAs are considered UAPs..."unlicensed assistance personnel". Which means everything they do is supposed to be ultimately the responsibility of the licensed person, that CNA should def not have been the only one who got charges...
these people need to be in fkn jail!!!! as a student nurse i cannot stand seeing someone who’s sick or feeling unwell let alone collapsed faced down and not helping… it just makes my blood boil
And have their practicing licenses black listed.
I am not defending these people bc this was disgusting but in all fairness this is a big city problem, there are bodies of homeless and drug addicts strewn everywhere in NY... the homeless and addicts coming in and trying to get some sleep in a hospital waiting room is a VERY common problem and liberals think they are protecting "POCs" by leaving them to get some sleep in the waiting rooms... those who stay in the lanes of "it's not my job to kick them out" also stay in the lanes of *_it is not my job to triage_*
I really appreciate it whenever someone in the medical field actually cares, and is angry about those that don't or are actively harmful. Thank you!
People need to remember that they also have friends and family who no one knows how their lives will be and may need help. Life is cruel. Be careful how you treat others medical team.
As a current nurse, dont lose this empathy. You will lose employment over it but stay true to it...may you save as many as you humanly can kind soul....❤
I work in healthcare and I cannot even fathom seeing somebody in her state and not helping immediately. It is really frustrating to see that so many people go into the field without patient care being their top priority. This is unfortunately not surprising to hear that it happened within a psychiatric unit because I have witnessed firsthand how those patients and geriatric patients in memory units as well are mistreated and overlooked simply due to their mental state or inability to communicate their needs properly. I really hope this case gets all the attention it deserves and can be a real wake up call for healthcare workers and just people in general that we need to DO BETTER!
the fact that you can collapse in the one place you should be medically safe, only for staff to look at you and ignore you like filth boils my blood!
I can understand other patients and/or family members of those patients not doing anything since they won't know Esmin's condition and since staff didn't do anything, they could have thought this was a "normal" occurance.
Had I been in that waiting room, I definitely would've gotten her help!
Nothing about someone laying face down on the floor of a hospital seems right to me and it screams, get immediate help!
@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206 while I agree that nothing about the situation is right, we don't know what the other people in that room were dealing with at the time, if they were all patients then they were probably not in the right state of mind themselves to understand the gravity of the situation, and if those people were family members of other patients, they might have been so concerned with their own family member that they just let it fly, seeing as multiple staff didn't even seem bothered.
@@Nyxxeonn
I'm sorry, I wasn't blaming or judging anyone.
I was on my lunch break and didn't think it thru apparently, as I didn't mean to come off as sounding like I was blaming anyone that was there for treatment.
I only blame the hospital staff & security.
Just saying what I'd do in any type of similar situation.
☮️💜
@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206 no worries
@@sweetmissypetuniawilson9206I like to think I’d do the same, getting her help. If I am mentally stable I would for sure have help even if it were just rolling her over to her side in recovery position
Petal, what you do is SO important. These cases need to be aired, and those involved held accountable for their appalling behaviour. Call these people out - there is far too much 'secrecy' around medical abuse.
I salute you, and might add that your voice is perfect for this type of narration!
Keep up the great work, I'm sure that the families affected are grateful.
❤
As an ER Nurse Practitioner it is absolutely disgusting behavior of the medical staff. Where is our compassion??
Lacking. I had surgery and was treated like a body part by every single staff member at the hospital. I have had friends with serious health conditions be ignored in the ER or left bleeding out and sent home because their insurance is not great. A friend was wheeled out and left on a bench with a vomit bag around his neck and still in his hospital gown while dealing with gastroparesis.
Imagine that sight when picking up a loved one and realizing there’s no empathy in the medical field. If you’re Black or Native/Latinx, going to the hospital may mean you still don’t get help like in this story.
@@cafreria_en_potewhy is usa so backwards when it comes to race and humanitarian fields like education and health care? And no I'm not talking about the scientific side of things.
I'm an RN of almost 10 years and this shocks the hell out of me.... Where do I even begin?! Christ.....
Christ. I understand people become hardened and burnt out, but this is a level of indifference that's beyond comprehension.
Rest in pace, Esmin. You deserved better.
Esmin made the ultimate sacrifice and has still impacted so many. She has changed a hospital's whole operation so that better care can be given to patients. She is a queen, an angel, and a hero.❤
She didn’t sacrifice she was murdered. Call it what it was
Wow. This was so triggering. I live in Brooklyn and about 3 years ago I was admitted to kings county psychiatric er. I am bipolar and was actively manic. I was there for about 4 hours then they discharged me. Of course, in my manic state, I was joyed to be released. But I should’ve NEVER been discharged. Thank God the next day my partner contacted my treating psychiatrist at Down state hospital and I was seen immediately. He said I should’ve never been released because I needed a meds adjustment. The meds I was being prescribed were too stimulating for someone who was manic. In retrospect, I’m not a doctor but it’s common sense that stimulating meds should be discontinued for someone who is manic. Had my partner not contacted my psychiatrist the next day, I might not be here today.
Your partner was given the responsibility of making vital medical decisions for you, and made the right call. I am more and more fearful of the responsibility for my own care that I do not feel qualified to make. My husband is showing signs of cognitive decline. I don't think I want him in charge anymore either. I'm glad your partner is someone you can count on.
I’m so sorry to hear that this happened to you. I pray that all is well with you now and I hope that you are doing much better.
I have friend with bipolar and have seen her in the mania state - first time I was so worried, I didn’t sleep the whole night (because she didn’t, naturally), strongly felt like I needed to keep an eye on her and act as a damper against her wildest ideas. I was in my early 20s, probably didn’t know anything about bipolar, only that it existed. Suddenly our traditional hair dying & mani-pedi sleepover with drinks had taken very unexpected turn and my best guess tactic was to play goalie to her rapid fire slapshots, sorta.
When morning (and her spouse, who had been out drinking) came, we called an ambulance and she got the help she needed. Phew! I couldn’t nor wouldn’t want to even imagine what she could’ve done on her own, even less for her to be sent back home from the hospital in that state! Hell no. Even lay-person can tell something is wrong! I just keep shaking my head in disbelief..
You’re so lucky to have your partner, who was present, willing and able to look after you, when the medical professionals failed you horribly. And to have an actual, caring doctor in your corner. I wonder, would they have paid your funeral, if you were alone and would’ve ended playing chicken with trains or something? In my mind it would’ve been on them, they should’ve known the risks. It doesn’t seem like Kill County has enhanced anything, when yours happened over 10 YEARS after Esmins deplorable treatment..
@@janemiettinen5176 i also was transported to an open house like setting, mid bipolar episode. I had been blacking out and hadn’t slept in 9 days by the time I got to the hospital. They were so quick to get rid of me, thank god that when I got into the back of the ambulance to that house I was starting to come to a little. I still wasn’t fully okay, but my episode made me extremely afraid of everything, so I was terrified to run or leave so I finally got convinced by one of my close friends to start taking the antipsychotics…because I was almost going to refuse the medication because I was so terrified and paranoid, not trusting anyone. So I can’t even imagine how much worse it could have been if I wasn’t as terrified of everything as I was or I had the idea to run away or something…it could’ve been really bad. Mental health really needs to be taken a lot more seriously than it is, they actually discriminate against people almost immediately in a lot of situations.
"i might not be here today!!!" lmfao mania will not kill you. you might make some bad decisions, but the chance of DYING is literally zero. i'm an amphetamine addict who has been in a 'manic' state quite often and you're being so extremely dramatic like chilllll.
This happened to me. I almost died. Thank God a nurse tech saw me in the waiting room and lost his mind, he saved me! Everyone else ignored my desperate situation ( anaphylaxis ). The sign in nurse was a totally uncaring person and refused to rush anything, even for someone in an emergency, I had rounded a corner as I walked back to the sign in desk for help as I had started to black out and couldn't breathe, and I ran into a group of young Dr's and nurses literally taking bets on what drug I had taken to cause me to do this!!!?? I was incensed but threw up on the floor, they ran grabbed a bag of vomit and ran back to test it for drugs without even talking to me!!! I went back to the waiting room as told to by the sign in nurse again. As I was loosing consciousness a male nurse walked in and saw me and lost it! He started screaming and calling for help and a wheel chair and an emergency room for me! He ran me back to a room, sedated me and set me up with a drip as he pulled me back to safety!! Everyone else there was going to let me die in waiting!!!!!! P.S. the nurses and do tors taking bets on the hallway ran tests and found nothing in my system.. but nota darn one appologised to me after.....
That sounds horrible I am so sorry, I’m so glad there was at least one good person that could save you ☹️💔
This absolutely broke my heart💔 blood clots and extremely high blood sugars cause mental killed symptoms including hallucinations. This woman was living the American Dream, built on her hard work. She supported her family here and in her home country. Those people who watched and let her die should NEVER be around patients again.💔💔💔💔
The American dream is a nightmare
My daughter has schizophrenia, well managed with meds for now. Less than 5 minutes in and I already know my blood will be boiling. 😢
Rest in power, Esmin. You deserved so much better and I'm so sorry you were treated so unfairly
What exactly does rest in power mean?
"Rest in power" is a phrase originating from Black American culture, most likely from the graffiti community in Oakland, California specifically. When accurately used, it is said about either political activists who contributed greatly to civil rights causes, and especially to Black, Indigenous and/or queer causes, or about people who were lost in particularly unjust and violent ways, such as through police brutality or state violence. I highly recommend the Slate articel "How "Rest in Power" Went From Radical Eulogy to Kitschy Twitter Meme" by Rachelle Hampton, as it's a relatively quick yet enlightening read and also where I got a portion of my information from.
As a retired ICU nurse, this makes my blood boil. The second Esmin hit the floor, not only should “heroic lifesaving measures” been taken but what about just normal human care and compassion? Imagine dying alone surrounded by caregivers…this tragedy is heartbreaking and infuriating.
You sat up here, went to school, paid for your education, and probably told everyone within ear shot how you’re going into nursing because you “Love to help people” only to let the people you vow to save die on the floor and will even go so far as to kick them to see if they’re still alive! And that’s forever my fear as someone who has seen hospital walls more times than Ive been alive. I will never understand. And honestly, I am slightly nervous about trying.
At this point if I'm unconscious on the floor in a waiting room, the nurse who kicks me is better than the ones who just roll their eyes and decide I'm acting out!
Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t care anymore! They go to school to make money and not to work/help. It’s disgusting and sad! This is everyday and all day..
@@meloyello3904 Money has its uses and is necessary, but even atheists usually regard service and kindness to others as a better way to value life. I think the apathy you are talking about grows in children who don't see their parents much because they're out trying to make that necessary money, and who see too much of teachers who are exhausted and given too much blame and too little power to make decisions. I don't know. I just see a lot of children who haven't developed empathy and the biggest change is that they don't have a parent at home.
@sherilynn1310 they don't develop the apathy as kids. Nursing is incredibly short staffed. Hospital administrators do not care if people die - they just want to cut spending by staffing the bare minimum. I've seen nurses work 16 hour days 6+ days in a row. The ones who get into nursing to help people either leave or they become apathetic. You don't have the time to do your job properly. Your bosses and patients treat you like crap. Multiple nurses get assaulted and are told to roll with it. Our healthcare system is completely rotten.
@@125loopy !!!!!!!
You did an EXCELLENT job in narrating this tragedy.
I had to take my sister to A&E once and just as the nurse called her she had an intense faint. The nurse just stood there and told her to ‘wake up’ as she was very obviously unconscious and I was just trying to keep her head secure. She then refused to make a note of the faint despite me reminding her. Fortunately my sister recovered quickly, but I was so mad. I work in dental care and I see it sadly fairly often where patients are ‘acting out’ or ‘overreacting’ and staff will just roll their eyes and carry on with their day
Petal,I love the way you cover these stories. Thank you so much.
I love your channel . I am fighting metastatic ovarian cancer . I love your content please keeping posting these stories you my dear are perfect for this and can go very far 🙏🏽
Keep fighting dear 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾💐💕
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Praying for your recovery ❤ stay strong
Look into the carnivore diet. 😊
Praying for you for a speedy recovery and remission 🙏🏾🙏🏾
So many people failed this poor woman! I enjoyed your presentation and thank you for bringing this tragic story to our attention. This should never happen to anyone!!!
Petal Palmer, you’re telling the stories that need to be told! Thank You 🕊
Is there a more beautiful woman who has ever been born? Petal is so far above, so intelligent, articulate, compassionate, and stunningly beautiful. Thank you, Petal, for your time, your shedding light on very difficult subjects.
This is horrific and inhumane. Thank you for bringing light to this case.
I've been medically gaslit almost to the point of dying twice in New York State. There's no care in the medical care industry, and no recourse for patients. I hate the stink people make over "access" to medical professionals. They don't care about people's health, so accessing them doesn't help us.
I was misdiagnpsed with Schizophrenia in 1999. I qas correctly diagnosed with MS in 2010.
The "hallucinations" were actually neuropathy, causing the sensation of cobwebs and crawling bugs.
I was able to demonstrate that I knew that these sensations weren't bugs or cobwebs, nut that is what rhey felt like.
In psychiatry, this is called reality-checking, and is a clear indication that a person does NOT have schizophrenia.
I now have Tardive Dyskinesia and Tardive Dystonia from taking insane amounts of psychiatric medications that I did not need.
I also missed out onS treatments which slow down the progressive incurable disease. These MS treatments work best when they are started early.in the disease process. Since I had MS for ar least 11 years before it was correctly diagnosed, I missed put on getting appropriate treatments at the time they would have been most effective.
Also, I was acrually in the drug study for Abilify, an anti-psychotic drug, before it was FDA-approved. So, at least one person in the studies for Abolify's safety and efficacy for treating psychosis rid not actually have psychosis nor any other perception disorder for which that drug was approved, at that time or since.
One MRI. That's all it would have taken.
Paychiatry is the only field of medicine where the organ/system that they treat does not first get imaged, physically look at or tested in some other manner.
One damned MRI.
I watched a video that had a doctor on it who had patients with MS and other diseases and in her research to find a cure she found out that the majority of her patients had parasites, in the spinal column area, the reason the radiologist do not find the parasites on the images taken is because they are not taught to look for them.
That taking a cocktail of natural remedies such as Black walnut green hull, Cloves and wormwood get rid of 99% of the majority, and the patients health improved, even the cancer in the body shrunk.
I had years of blood tests, tons of scan cat scans MRI they kept telling me there was nothing wrong with me all in my head, or the Endometriosis, which i knew it wasn't, over a ten year period then I had sepsis and they eventually found the several internal abscesses making tracks throughout my body creating more abscesses. the main one attached to my colon the size of a mug, yet they saw nothing in the scans???
I hear you, hon. I was misdiagnosed with schizophrenia back in the late '80s and early '90s. No-one reality checked me; my "hallucinations" were me seeing motion in the corner of my eye. Unfortunately, I had autism, which at the time had nearly the same diagnostic criteria as schizophrenia. Hallucinations were the only difference.
I finally got correctly diagnosed in my 40s. My memory is permanently damaged due to the improper medications I had to take.
@@SewardWriter so awful that you were misdiagnosed
Yeah psychiatry to me is a hoax. Mental health issues are generally disorders caused by something else going on in the body. Without the root cause, you get crappy treatment like dangerous antidepressants and psych drugs.
So sorry to both of you. Personally, I think a lot of people are written off with a psychiatric condition when that's not the case at all. It's like if they didn't learn it in school "it can't be possible" so "it must be in your head". I can't tell you how many times things have happened to me that "no Dr ever heard of" or they claimed "wasn't possible". I'm like a medical anomaly every time something happens, which thank God isn't very often. But it's still frustrating when it happens. First time it happened was as a child. My ears don't clean themselves properly, like the wax won't come out, so I have to get them professionally cleaned and when I was a kid and they would do it, it didn't bother my ears but for some reason it BURNED my eyes like fire and I would scream and cry and the doctor world tell me that wasn't possible, but it was, because it DID! That was the beginning of my distrust of doctors and my opinion/experience has not improved since becoming an adult and now a middle aged adult (39). I hate doctors SO much that I have panic attacks if my body feels the slightest bit off or sick. Like I literally have health anxiety as an adult now and it's mainly due to past experiences I've had with Drs.
Everybody that saw this woman and walked away needs to be brought up on charges. Sickening! This is awful!
ALL of them should have been charged!!! This is the textbook definition of "cascading failure", from start to end, just failure upon failure. I wish I could honestly say "I can't believe..." but sadly, I CAN believe that they chose to charge only the least experienced person at the bottom of the ladder instead of ANY of the others in higher roles: not the nurses, the doctors, the security guards. Sure, their names and faces are out there, and some would say that's punishment enough, but... The sheer lack of humanity is just enraging. If they were drowning in patients and lack of resources that would be one thing, but this is just inexcusable. This was SO preventable.
i don't understand why the psychiatrist couldn't perform the medical exam. he has a medical degree, that's literally what differentiates psychologists from psychiatrists and allows psychiatrists to prescribe medication. he's perfectly qualified to perform a basic medical exam.
Even If they were drowning in Patients this goes too far.
Than they should rather Cut their Lunch or cigarette Breaks.
Another great video. I didnt know I would bawl my eyes. I can't imagine how she felt,waiting for help among people who took an oath to protect human life only to die in their hands.
A few years ago I was having severe stomach pain, naturally, I'd gone to the hospital thinking it was some kind of infection or organ failure of some sort. They told me it was just some form of period pain (I wasn't on it at the time) and was given a few Panadol and told to leave. Around a week later the pain was still there, so I went to my doctor and got a scan organised. It turns out I had severe gallbladder inflammation, and had several stones stuck in the bile duct. Once more, I went to the hospital and was told to wait a few hours for a bed... After throwing up and fainting I was admitted while unconsious. In between getting to the hospital and fainting, my gallbladder ruptured, so I spent around a month in the hospital recovering from sepsis. I told my doctor later that it was strange that they thought it was period pain, she told me it was because I had bipolar disorder, that they thought I was having an episode
That’s ignorant of them
I’m glad you’re here now darling to even tell your story!🩷🩷
Sorry that happened to you.
Sans the mistreatment, I also suffered from my gallbladder rupturing, spending a week in pain before going to the hospital. I hope you're doing well! You deserve a lot better than what you experienced
Holy geezus...I had this same thing happen to me but I guess I was lucky because I already knew I had gall stones at the time. I went to the hospital, was given pain meds, had to fly home (because I was away at the time), ended up back in the hospital. Then the next day finally saw a specialist and I think it was basically the next day after that I had a procedure done to remove the stuck stone. My gall bladder surgery was done maybe like a week after that, but it had been scheduled for that time well before my trip out of state. To be honest, I shouldn't have left the state but I literally had no clue my gall bladder could do all of that....
I live Brooklyn N.Y and very close to this hospital. I will never forget this story. Especially because I was having a miscarriage in 07 at this hospital and a staff laughed at me like I didn’t know what I was talking about. On top of that I lost my child and spent the night with his body, crying and taking videos 😢😢😢😢 To this day I am still messed up because of that night in this hospital. I always think about what happened. Even when getting discharged I had to ask what would happen to the body because he was still in the room alone under my flowers😢😢😢😢
I am so sorry for your loss
this is why i want to go into medicine. i just had my first day at the hospital today and ive seen a lot of stuff already. i want to be a part of the good
Ill be thinking of you and your goals. In fact all ive seen with medical is awful....
People judging my mom who had psychosis and sighing, gossiping with other staff and ignoring her..
Once i had gastrtis and panic atracks and went to ER, had a huge stomach infection with "bacterial gas everywhere!!!" according to the lead doc reading the x ray, and he lookrd at my male friend and said "bend your girlfriend over and tell her to fart. Shes holding her farts!!!" he shouted this for the whole control room, where he had brought me to see his computer and the x ray with a systemic weird bacterial infection.
Dr laughed and made gross sex jokes while i continued to hyperventilating from a panic attack (caused by infection) and deny that im "not holding my farts" while standing and laughing to all the staff in the room..
I was crying at that point and hyperventilating. Also im a lesbian, d1ckhead!!!
Anyway it was a stomach infection. Your farts dont go up to your stomach and esophagus.. Wtf.. This was a head dr at a hospital!!!
Then he said okay, you might have cancer then. Heres an apt to whatever.
Pointless colonoscopy. It was, in the end, a stomach condition cause. Who would have thought!! D1ckface!!
I wish the best for you
I pray you maintain that attitude. We need physicians that are grounded in compassion, able to utilize common sense as well as astute medical practitioners
@@sylview3808 it’s going to be something i will value more than anything and put all my effort into maintaining
Please don't sell out❤
What a compassionate account of someone’s life you did Petal. Adore your name too! Your voice and demeanor exudes such grace and it truly defines the lovely person Esmind was.
Those staff also need to get their heads checked because that is some next-level indifference you would never expect to see from healthcare workers. 😨
Thats really, really horrible. The fact that people cant even be certain of their own safety in a hospital, or that theyll be treated with dignity and respect, is extremely horrible. This woman never had to die.
This is literally one of my biggest fears. I can't even imagine the pain being untreated, and the pain of dying with so many people around
Thank you for lifting your voice up to tell Miss Esmin Green's story. Her story broke my heart & made me angry. 🙏🏼💙
I was put in psych because my feet hurt too much to walk, lasting about 3 months. The doctor said I was taking away his ability to be there for his "normal" patients. stinker.
Turns out I was suffering from vitamin B6 overload. PS Haldol makes you want to pace. It's horrible
they are monsters, right? How is foot pain a reason to imprison someone for months?
@@mobee9181 I was there for a week but couldn't walk for 3 months. I crawled on my floor to get to the bathroom. No help at all.
I got kicked by a horse. I was writhing on the floor crying and screaming in pain. I did that for 3 hrs. I had a broken vertibrea and it was against my spinal cord. My neck wasn't actually attached. I could have been paralyzed. I was vomiting.
@@hannahrosa5485 they do this to so many people. Look up Littlemissdiagnosed #31for31lmd
@@hannahrosa5485 Years ago, there was a couple where we lived whose adult son spent a lot of time walking the neighborhood. He lived in a tent in their backyard because he didn’t like being inside. There were neighbors who claimed he’d ruined his brain with drugs, but I pointed out that he could have a mental illness and the meds were why he walked compulsively. That shut them up. His parents kept to themselves, so nobody knew for sure. I hated that people were so willing to basically blame him for what was probably an illness and not his fault.
Thanks for sharing this story. This is so sad 😢😢. The kicking with the foot instead of touching her or trying to wake her up. SMH
Thank You Petal for shining a light on these very tragic,but largely unknown cases. This poor lady😢
Those ppl that failed to do their jobs are awful human beings and should all be out of any employment within the healthcare system. Just sickening
@@MamacitaNatural I hear so many stories from nurses who are run off their feet during shifts: barely any time to use the restroom, lucky to get five minutes to inhale some food. Meanwhile, these 🤡🤡 are sitting around taking hour-long breaks instead of doing basic checks on their patients. And of course the only one who was criminally charged was a nursing aide, the employee on the bottom rung with the least amount of authority.
I don’t know what’s going on today, but many seem to have lost empathy for others. It’s like we have a new group of people walking around amongst us.
@@bethany5481you are absolutely right, praying for restoration and transformation of heart, body and soul.
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
you could have stopped at the word employment tbh
I used to work the night shift @ a hospital in the psychiatric unit. I was SHOCKED that the majority of the staff did what I called “imaginary rounds” i.e for the 15-30 minute checks the staff just wrote that they had done them when they hadn’t. The LPN & RN’s knew knew this was happening & were also negligent. The staff covered for other staff so they could take hour long breaks where they would sleep. Also, almost every night they would have “dinners” where everyone would bring a dish & then the staff would be enjoying their meals, talking etc. Many hospitals even medical units slack off during the night shift when the “top” people are gone. It’s very scary & an embarrassment to the American health system!
I believe every word you say. Insane how lazy and disturbing this Is. If someone dies of neglect the whole staff of that Shift should face legal consequences (in my Option a couple of years in prison)
In this Case there are even Multiple shifts involved..gross
I've been hospitalized a lot in my life and I've been nocturnal since I left "standard" schooling due to disability when I was 15. My experience is that staff basically disappear from 1am, when even the most dedicated doctors go home, to 5am, when doctors begin their rounds. I figure they're sleeping, like you said, or they're all hanging out in the same room. I've actually knocked on doors to ask, "Hey, can I get a bunch of juice boxes? I'm really thirsty and tend to choke up plain water." I don't begrudge it, really, for typical heart floors or step-down, but it's infuriating when the ER staff do it.
As a medical student with a strong interest in psychiatry, this breaks my heart. I'm so sorry for Esmin and her family. She didn't deserve this. No-one deserves this.
Being mentally ill health care and access to good healthcare is complicated most times. They tend to assume we exaggerate our symptoms or we're too mentally ill to give valid feedback about our own health. They'd rather ignore us than run tests & actually find what the real problem is.
i'm a therapist and omg haldol AND risperidal AND ativan AND xanax?? that combo sounds so dangerous like that sounds like it would knock you out permanently. i don't think anyone would be compliant with that. it sounds horrible.
Agree. That cocktail would cause respiratory suppression. She wasn’t even on a stretcher. Horrible treatment.
Thank you SO much for bringing light to these issues, as someone who is chronically ill with autoimmune diseases that have caused me to battle the healthcare industry just for BASIC CARE that they STILL WON’T PROVIDE 😞
I’m not a mental health pro, but I’ve dealt with anxiety and depression. It seems atypical for her to develop schizophrenia at midlife. It sounds like she was healthy and functioning in Jamaica. I wonder if stress, homesickness, and missing her family triggered severe depression. There is a form called agitated depression that includes pacing and restlessness. Severe depression can sometimes trigger psychosis-it’s what happened to Andrea Yates. It’s so utterly tragic what happened to Esmin, and I wonder if returning to her family in Jamaica would have been better for her mental health.
It sounds like she was under a massive amount of stress. I can’t imagine working that much while being apart from my family. That loss, plus knowing that she was her family’s safety net and that she herself lacked a safety net, could push anyone into intense depression/psychosis. Her psychological break should have been a sign that she needed support, but instead it marginalized her even further
@@laundroismat Exactly! That poor lady.
Schizophrenia develops usually from late twenties to early forties
I am a mental health professional, and I was thinking this same thing.
@@bubblescheck3359 False. You can easily even google this information: "Women tend to get diagnosed in their late 20s to early 30s. People rarely develop schizophrenia before they're 12 or after they're 40."
I just found your channel today. Immediately a fan. Keep up the work!! Your doing amazing!!
Thank you for being so respectful while covering this case. as a nurse this video was especially informative and helpful
Exactly!!!!!
Thank you for bringing awareness for this case and highlighting the beauty of Jamaica. With regards to this case, it is very sad and disturbing that this woman was neglected and not provided the care she needed, they are responsible for her death! Locally, we refer to Kings County Hospital as “Killer County.” The service there is awful, I have been there on numerous occasions. On one occasion, I had chest pains and was not seen. Instead, the woman at the front desk interrogated me about the intensity and description of my pain despite having a heart condition (noted on file) 🙄. I left immediately to find care elsewhere. Killer County is the WORST! RIP Ms. Green!
❤ *ALWAYS* immediately click to watch a *masterpiece* from *beautiful* Petal!🌷
i really like the shirt she is wearing
@@mobee9181Yes she always looks & sounds SO lovely. Very talented & educated young lady.👑
This is HEARTBREAKING to hear & SEE what happened to🕊Ms. Esmin Green.🕊 This hospital should be shut down!!
Not many men or women are this articulate. She is so intelligent and able. I am glad she is on the side of making things better instead of taking, taking, taking; me, me, me.
@@sherilynn1310Couldn't agree with you more Petal is truly meant for greatness.
I’m so mad that only the aide was charged! He was working under the license of the nurse. She was responsible as well. It sounds like the hospital had the same lazy culture that happens when admins are greedy. Short staff, bad supervision, etc. I’m so sorry for the loss of this woman. ❤
👁️👄👁️ me with schizophrenia listening to the statistics while already having been paranoid about my family history of heart disease 😭
I think the meds play a big part of it They are quick to prescribe multiple meds When I had to pass those meds I worried about some of those patients Especially the ones who didn't always have a healthy lifestyle with food, other health issues and such They were to busy just trying to survive daya to day. There was one parrticular med they put everyone one on as the miracle drug which I won't mention and put on huge doses. We started to lose patients and some later on. I still remember many of them to this day. We could avocate, but we were shut down with our concerns.
Please stay on top of your health. My family has dealt with similar things and us younger generations are learning that a trip to the doctor might save us a lot later. I hope you stay safe ❤
I think the meds are really rough on the system's. My son is squizopreninic and he has issues with his legs swelling and draining. He used to walk 5 miles a day including work.
Me and you both! I have heart issues and struggle with schizophrenia and the way I got NERVOUS! And I’m in medical school and did not know this!
you're not alone either! i literally just found out a few hours ago that many antipsychotics and antidepressants can cause high cholesterol, in addition to weight gain (including the one i'm on, after i just got labs back saying mine is high). so it seems to be a problem compounded on my multiple factors :(
One of my worst fears is being in need of medical attention but being surrounded with incompetent people. This here is a nightmare.
Due to my intense health anxiety, I've been to multiple hospitals. I'm from Greece, for reference. Here, doctors are obliged by the law to automatically do any actual physical examinations based on the symptoms you describe or that are visible, without any waiting or bypassing it by saying they're registered in a computer. They do EVERYTHING, without having to beg them.
But in the US, it seems that examinations are bypassed and dead people like Esmin are ignored for an entire day INSIDE A HOSPITAL. May she rest in peace.
exactly, same in spain. sure negligence happens everywhere but i’ve never heard stories like these in my country’s healthcare system, where usually in urgency care you’re met with all the tests and examinations you’d need based in symptoms. It’s heartbreaking to see cases like Esmin’s that could have been avoided if professionals showed more empathy and were actual professionals 💔
These are tragic and sad stories that you cover but you explain them so well and I learn so much. You are very knowledgeable and you have a way of explaining complex things in very clear and understandable ways. You seem like you'd be a great professor or medical professional. You really have a gift.
Thank you for giving the voiceless a voice. I haven’t heard of this story and it’s heartbreaking
You did a great job covering this case
I'm not from the US and went through a similar situation aswell. Not from a physical injury, but a mental illness. One time i went to the emergency room because i was having a psychotic episode. I had to wait for about 7 hours and when i finally got to talk to someone they just told me that it was nothing. NOTHING. I even got my blood drawn and had to pee in a cup because they thought i was on drugs. It was so unnecessary, man. They had my medical records right in front of their stupid faces. I was having all types of thoughts and they didn't take me seriously at all. I felt so alone and helpless
Ps: this happened by the end of may (2024)
I’m so angered and confused at doctors acting like since the illness is in your brain, they’re allowed to just wash their hands of it. The brain is still an organ in the body - it’s still your flipping JOB to treat anything wrong with it. If you personally can’t because it’s not your specialty, that’s completely understandable, but you’re still required to get the patient treatment from the acceptable physician if you can’t. What you don’t get to do is act like it’s not real just because the problem didn’t show up on a urine test.
Here in Portland, we have a walk-in crisis center that we can go to that are better fit for situations like this
I had a similar experience- went to a children’s hospital ER in my city for psychosis (I was worried I was going to hurt myself because of the increasing delusions) and I was left the wait in the ER for 7 hours. When I was finally triaged, they left me in the hospital room without treatment for at least 1/2 an hour, after which I was told that I could not be treated there because I was a legal adult… even though my parents had called the ER explaining the situation ahead of driving there, and they assured us that I was able to be treated as an 18 year old.
Luckily I had my family to advocate for me, and then to wait up with me and drive me to another hospital in the middle of the night where I could actually receive inpatient treatment. If I was all alone experiencing this, I’m not sure I’d still be here today.
A friend of mine who works at the same children’s hospital I went to all those years ago, told me that a psychotic episode with fear of self-harming tendencies should be treated as a top priority in triage from her training… so I’m not sure why I was neglected for 7 hours. Hopefully things have changed in the last 10 years.
I appreciate everyone who spoke out about this issue. It's time for the people to UNITE & get rid of this HORRID SYSTEM that pains us all.
I've worked in hospitals and nursing homes for 15 years and this makes me sick to my stomach. I've seen nurses who act this way and it always baffles my mind.
I love you delivery of telling stories. ❤ Your voice is soothing. Keep doing great work.
Sad story. 😢
RN here... This is absolutely sickening- and one of the main reasons I left the hospital to practice community health. Shame on every single one of the people who ignored her. They should all lose their licenses.
Wow. You think being in that situation, the best place to be would be a hospital. Clearly not. That doctor and all of the staff who was seen on camera needs to be charged for atleast neglect. This is disgusting and I'm glad you brought this to light. Thank you. You are a beautiful soul❤❤
I live in the Bronx and was in the ER with chest pain. The didn't have an EKG machine. It was just a panic attack but if I was actually having a cardiac event I could of ended up just like her. This is disgusting
that is horrifying. when i had a pulmonary embolism the first thing they did was give me an EKG to make sure it wasn't a heart attack. when that came back clear they sent me for an MRI with contrast and that lit up the clots like a christmas tree. i had been having chest pains for over 12 hours at that point, the clock was definitely ticking.
My brother has a mental illness and it breaks my heart how he is treated. From family “friends“ and all the drs that we take him to for help. He is treated less than all too often. He’s 47 and has a mind of a teenager. God bless her ❤
Girl you're an amazing storyteller and there was so much emotion in your voice. You're an amazing person
You did a great job, covering this story!!! Thanks for sharing.
I am a strange person. My rage tends to manifest towards computer problems instead of human problems. This case is making my blood boil. I am so, so angry. What the hell? This isn't mere medical neglect, this is a straight up moral failure.
You might be ADHD. Alot of people with this condition are triggered with electronics.
i try not to ascribe morality to things because everyone's moral flowchart is different but when a licensed medical physician pokes their head in a waiting room, sees someone lying face-down on the floor not moving, and just WALKS AWAY, that is not medical neglect, that is medical malfeasance with malice.
I'm thankful the entire community riled up. That's one thing about New York, they gonna stand up when injustice starts getting out of hand.
As an RN in the ER, I am appalled. I pray I never allow myself to become even a fraction as indifferent as the staff involved in this tragic loss of precious human life.
Bless you for your mission to shed light on these issues.
Your delivery only gets sharper. Your lighting is perfect. The fit is great, and I’m always here for a dark lip stain! Thanks again for amazing content Petal!
This pisses me off so much! In 2009 I was a psychiatric nurse on a mens unit. Even back then we had a specific tech EVERY shift that made 15 minute rounds to verify that each and every patient was safe and accounted for. As nurses we were required to make rounds every hour to confirm what tech said. I am disgusted with each of those staff members. The doctor doesn't surprise me they DO NOT like getting their hands dirty. The nurses and techs blow my mind. Absolutely senseless, they have hearts of stone 😢
I've been in a psych ward three times, and I know countless people who have been put in one, and we all say the same thing; they suck. The doctors, nurses, and other staff do not give a flying flip about the people there no matter if it's attached to a bigger hospital or a standalone place. The last one I was at there was another patient who had a stomach band to help with her weight issues and she was supposed to eat smaller meals throughout the day, but they basically fed us breakfast/lunch/dinner with no snacks and we weren't allowed food outside the cafeteria area under any circumstances. When she asked for an accommodation to be able to bring in her own snack foods and store them there and go eat more frequently she was told no, and even after her doctor called in and told them that's what she needed they said it was against policy and she would not be allowed to eat outside the designated times unless she had diabetes or a similar condition that would be life-threatening if she wasn't allowed that. Same place also forcibly drugged me each night I was there; I'm a night owl, and am typically asleep from 7am to 3pm because that's my natural circadian rhythm. They didn't want to hear it and told me I could sleep 'regular hours' [10pm to 6am] or they'd make me. When I said "fine, make me" that was....a mistake. They strapped me down, forcibly injected me with a sedative, and then left me there all night with no one checking on me at all to make sure I wasn't overdosed or having an allergic reaction or something.
Several of my friends have been assaulted, had stuff stolen, and been told that they need to 'behave and do as told' or else the psych docs would make sure they were never allowed to get out. Mental health care in the US is a joke, no one cares and people take advantage because "You're crazy, who's going to believe you?" as one of the nurses that drugged me said when I threatened to have the place investigated for doing that. Lots of these places don't have cameras, or if they do it's only in the admitting areas and such because they can say filming patients is a violation of HIPPA and courts are like yeah that makes sense. And a lot of them aren't accountable to anyone, if the victims are believed [which in a lot of cases they aren't] then filing a lawsuit against any medical establishment is a huge mountain to climb and often isn't successful, or if it is the money gained by the victims and/or their families isn't nearly enough for how much they've suffered and then the medical establishment goes right back to business as usual :/
Oh man, regarding the meals allowed...I'm vegetarian with vegan preferences (still required to eat some dairy due to low bone density, but I keep it minimal), and have been for all of my adult life. In the psych ward of my hospital, they consistently would only serve me meals that were composed of meat and animal products, despite the fact that they had vegetarian options available to the rest of the hospital.
And then they wondered why my health started to flag due to malnutrition after a short stint there, since I could only eat about a fruit cup and a serving of vegetables consisting of about 300 calories total daily.
As a New Yorker I remember this story all too well. No one deserves that.
Thank you, Petal. You have a way of finding unique stories that need to be heard.