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Josh needs to give thanks to God that he did not marry a Hispanic woman like myself. Many Hispanic women just cut it off and serve it to you for breakfast. I'm sure you all have read in the news.
Hum I guess your right in that they dodge that but their no saints either. Their famy is just as screwed up just not everyone knows that because their family isnt in the public eye like the Duggars are.
I didn’t believe in divorce. My husband committed adultery, wouldn’t let me go to church, beat me, strangled me. Friends encouraged us to go to counseling. The ‘Christian’ pastor told me it might be my fate to die…. I took our 3 month old son and left.
The more I see Anna, I no longer see a helpless victim. She is very calculating and manipulative. She comes off sweet, clueless and meek…but watch her eyes. I believe she knew what Josh was up too and played a part in that behavior. I feel sorry for the children.
When she said after she had a baby she got to sleep and josh did everything even changed the diapers I got sick to my guts. Omg. 🤮🤢 I don’t trust him at all.
She was referring to Michelle. She said "you come over and help when I am in labor". I agree she needs to put her kids first, especially now they are going HBO grow up without their father.
Anna hasn’t be arrested yet! But she could go to jail for intimidating a witness. It’s a class C felony in Arkansas she could potentially face up to four years in prison!
@@tracyh.8877 she’d get witness intimidation boy witness tampering! The crime she committed is much much more serious than witness tampering! If she gets arrested and charged she will possibly face a class C felony!
I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian household. Both parents involved in the church. My father was a serial adulterer and multiple elders from multiple churches told my mom to divorce my dad
@@erismana2105 yes. She has been free for over 20 years and has never been happier. It was actually us kids that finally inspired her to as a neighbor asked "is that the kind of man you want setting an example for your daughters in what a husband should be?"
Exactly. Fundamentalist allow and often encourage divorce if a spouse is behaving abusively or cheating. But the Duggar’s aren’t fundies, they’re in the IBLP cult 😵💫
It has not been determined that Anna or the Duggars will be approved to supervise Pest when he’s released from prison in 10+ years. A lot can and will happen in the next decade.
If his parole officer allows Anna or the Duggar's to be the supervisors of his interactions with children, then it's the epitome of irresponsibility from the state.
What woman in their right mind would want Josh? I realize that before everything came out no one knew what he really was, but even so, there's something about him that is just creepy, and he's not exactly hot either.
Not putting your kids first and giving them a secure environment can cause serious harm to kids that never goes away no matter how many years of therapy you have.
I still think Jana “lied” bc she wasn’t actually the one responsible for them that day and they just had her take the fall bc it would be bad for the case if it fell on Anna
I absolutely don’t believe Jana was babysitting Anna’s kids that day. That’s why she didn’t know what to say to police. I believe Jana was told/made to take the fall.
Anna can’t give Josh what he wants because he wants little kids. Clearly Anna is too old for Josh’s liking. She can pump out children which means she isn’t one herself
I'm a Christian and I believe when it comes to immoral behaviors and also breaking the vows......you have every right to get out of that toxic relationship/marriage!!!! He is toxic not only to Anna but to those children!!!!
@karenhamon2036 yes you're right, and I use to feel sorry for Anna. But as time went on, and realized she always defending him and blaming others for his behavior, she's just as guilty. If she chooses to stand with this man, she deserves everything she gets.
watching Anna talk about letting a man pursue you and "guarding your heart" is so triggering *rolls eyes* XD the moment I let go of this false theology I found my wonderful husband. We pursue EACH OTHER, that's what marriage is about!
The irony the people who say they love children and want to bring all these children into the world are the ones actually harming them and causing trauma
Who knows the reason why Jana is still there. But it was her choice. To stay calm and to be so obedient to jb and church, or drop it all and go to pursue her own life
...except at the IBLP conferences, etc where Anna now gets held in high regard, gets invited to speak, feels rewarded & "proud" for all of the "forgiveness", "sacrifice" and "God's kind of love" she has for her husband, etc. Pride goes before a fall...
I used to think Judge Brooks understood how the Duggars operate, but after he allowed himself to be swayed by those ridiculous letters, and now allowing Anna and the Duggars to be the supervisors, I’m just feeling bewildered and sad!😢 I mean, what the hell?!😳
@@bmxsickness1975 he was talking about how the letters touched him, and how they showed Josh has a good support system. He clearly doesn’t understand that what he sees as support, is actually them enabling him to continue hurting people.
As a Christian I do believe that a couple should not divorce. However, there are situations that my faith allows for divorce. If my husband did what Josh did, I would divorce and take my daughter as far away from him as possible.
4] Divorce was not a rare occurrence in the community of God’s people. Moses may have divorced his first wife Zipporah (Exod. 18:2-3). Abraham effectively divorced Hagar, with God’s instigation and approval (Gen. 21:14 cf. Gen. 16:3). God said about himself that he divorced Israel because of her infidelity (Jer. 3:8). Under Ezra’s leadership, the Jews divorced their pagan wives (Ezra 10:2-3 NLT). In the New Testament, Joseph was planning on divorcing Mary by breaking their legally binding betrothal. In the Hebrew of Malachi 2:16, God does not say, “I hate …” (first person singular); rather God says, “He [who] hates …” (third-person masculine singular). This “he” seems to be the man who hates and divorces his wife, and in so doing behaves unjustly towards her. (A divorced woman in Bible times could be very vulnerable and disadvantaged.)[1] look up marg Mowzcko this is her scholarly work.
Christian here as well. God does not want you to be cheated on. But NO She stayed and he has SA issues. All she got was more children. Now 7 all going to be hurt their dad was not the man he said he was. This is going to hurt them if it has not already. One day they will see him in the news.
Anna's dad said don't tell your mom, don't tell anyone about her feelings for Josh,, its ok to keep secrets from the Spouse? If anyone should know about who your daughter loves should be her mom??!
It was don’t tell “Mommy”. Just so creepy. I keep using that word, but I can’t think of another. And, I don’t care what Anna says. She pursued, and her Father, pursued Josh for 2 years before “courting”. They were so convinced Josh was “the one” they were unwilling to see the copious red flags.
Many years ago I was friends who worked at the Men's Prison in San Luis Obispo CA. She cared for Tex Watson, a killer who ran with the Manson Family. After Tex got to prison he found Jesus and started his own ministry. He was married to a gal and he used to SCREAM at her on visiting days if she bought curtains or spent money in a way he did not OK. That's Ana future. I fully expect Josh to start a prison ministry too.
This is interesting information. Something tells me Tex Watson didn’t find Jesus. He just used Jesus , probably hoping it would get him released. His wife should be glad he wasn’t or screamed at for buying curtains would probably be the least of her worries.
I guarantee Josh secretly recorded his sister's changing when they all still lived together.. he's always been into electronics, so he would've absolutely had the latest and greatest. I'd bet anything he did.
I have never seen Anna as a helpless victim. I see her as an enabler and completely aware of her husbands predilections and activities. Obviously she only cares about one person….Josh. I believe in my heart that these children have been damaged by this whole situation. What I cannot accept is
Well, when Josh gets out, his youngest sister will be an adult. He can always move into the big house. Something that annoyed me about Anna was an episode of Counting On where all the sisters and sisters-in-law got together at Jessa’s to take a picture of all the baby girls and make nursing cookies. Anna made kind of a snarky comment to Kendra, because Kendra said she had trouble nursing her oldest. Then Abbie had picked up Maryella when she was crying and Anna was like “is that my baby?” Both Lauren and Kendra seemed uncomfortable around her. It seems like she’s been nasty to them in the past and it’s like, chill, woman, they don’t want your husband when they got the younger, better versions.
Lol…she thinks he is a real “ prize”. I can’t see anybody wanting that Elmer Fudd looking weirdo, even if he wasn’t a perverted convicted felon. It’s mostly the way he has acted since the very beginning of the show, you could tell he really thought he was something special.
I thought maybe she was just trying to be gender neutral. But with everything else we know about the family, giving the benefit of the doubt isn't warranted
Haha funny to watch how he REALLY was bother to " pursuing" her. Still busy thinking about. Haha. (Sorry for my grammar mistakes. English my 4th languish
If Anna was so jealous about other women being around Josh, wonder what her feelings are about “Bubba” in prison?? Surely she must know what goes on behind prison doors!!
Except Seagoville prison where he is headed is mostly filled with predators because this specific prison has unique programs for them. So sadly, he will actually be around a bunch of (SICK AND TWSITED) empathizers.
“You don’t need to be feeling your package”. My gosh Anna gets creepier by the day. I no longer believe she was/is some naive brainwashed victim. Anna ( and her Dad) are obsessed fans of Josh and the Duggar’s.
Susan Kennedy, they also visibly obsessed from the begginning with Duggars wealth and fam. Just listening what her dad said before her marriage...that's all was important for him then?
Sounds like Josh gave Anna the impression he couldn't be trusted in the company of another female. I think it is the tip of the iceberg of what Josh has done!
You can blame parents all you want. But, there comes a time when you need to realize you are a grown up and take responsibility for your own actions. I think subconsciously Anna is so worried he is going to stray she attached to him at all costs and her children need her... If you can't trust your husband maybe you shouldn't be with him.. Anna is not his mother she is his wife... She should not have to worry about what Josh is doing it's taking time from her kids.. if she can watch his every move maybe she can control the situation.. obviously she can't do that. He has made his own decisions
Michelle does the same thing it’s some weird thing their religion does they train the girls to stare at their husbands when she talks like they need permission
I've always doubted how he could be supporting a family or even himself at that car lot. How much money can you legally make at a used car lot out in the "boonies"?
Supposedly, most of his sales were online, Internet sales. And I think the IBLP community tries to support each other’s businesses, giving Josh a built in sales market. Suck up to JB & Michelle, buy a car from Josh.
Well considering every problem is somehow the woman's fault in the IBLP it's no wonder Anna blames the other women instead of Josh. Michelle even said on the show once that if you aren't giving your husband what he wants he'll go find it elsewhere (part of that gross 'joyfully available' thing).
They will never be able to supervise Josh. They have already failed at that miserably. Josh is a master manipulator and JB, Michelle, and Anna are all too busy telling Josh how awesome he is to be effective as supervisors. And as far as his probation goes, he will be done with that in his mid 60’s which is still young.
Seems like a lot of this cult abdicates the raising of the young ones, to the older ones. I still remember KJ showing a clip of Michelle saying after she weaned the babies, she was done and handed them off to the older girls to raise. That video haunts me.
Anna once said something about that, she wasn’t going to be like m, she was going to care for her babies and children. It seems like they just don’t like babies and children, so pass them off to anyone. They are so weird
And then to say it’s gods will to have as many children as you can? Nah. Pretty sure he isn’t ok with your procreating so much that you can’t take care of them.
The only problem that Michelle DONE too soon. Often you can watch "older" little girls draging few months old babies around. Even the last one girl, born with special and very serious health complications, was from the beginning in Jana's arms.
If Anna doesn’t buckle down, she could lose those kids. I feel for those kids, I can’t even imagine what their lives will be like. I also feel for Jana, that lady deserves her own life.
If you are referring to Jana, she might feel some responsibility to the children. I was hoping she would see how well Jinger has done and leave. If you are speaking of Anna, she is financially tied to the Duggar’s.
So, Anna does more against the non threat of Kaylee than the actual betrayal's of dating site/affairs/CP ... Anna lived in a constant state of suspicion yet when those suspicions have been confirmed, repeatedly, she carries on business as usual 🤔
8:41 "You don't need to be feeling your package"?!?! Anna, what the hell? And the fact that she has NO IDEA what that implies to 99% of other people on this planet proves the point that she is unbelievably immature, so naive, dangerously sheltered and therefore completely gullible. Basically the perfect IBLP wife 👍
Stupid is as stupid does! One stupid choice after another!?! Beginning was wrong and absolutely stupid. Now she is not naive teenager. And not even close like a christian. Guess, soon you'll be more shock to hear about duggars
If Anna was that way with an ex girlfriend why is she that way now; with regards towards Josh, and why she won't protect her children. I hope my comment makes sense.
Based on the behaviour we have seen from Anna thus far, she’s going to be dutifully visiting Josh every chance she has. The only thing preventing this would be if he was very far away, beyond driving distance. And then she’ll probably move closer to the prison, with or without the kids.
@@dorisbarczak3751 I agree. I’m not sure how visitation works in the federal system. Or video calls. From what I understand, the video call times are far more stringent than in county jail where he is now.
It would be good if visits would only be allowed once a month at most so Anna would have motivation to be with her kids. If she can visit weekly or more, she may ditch the kids at the big house and get a place near the prison. Of course Jim Bob would have to agree and fund the move.
@@pattyo4703 I honestly think that Jim Bob would support Anna moving close to the prison he is in. Jim Bob has shown, time and time again that he will do anything to benefit Josh. To the exclusion of everyone else. Not even Josh’s kids take priority. I can tell by the letter Michelle wrote that she appears to feel the same way.
@@candaceion9622 hopefully not. Even using a phone to take a picture of a car without permission can land him back in. Based on the guidance that was provided at sentencing-his life is over.
She's upset with how Josh was raised bc how he is falls back on them. Yet has no issues with her kids being at that house 24/7. If you don't like what they did with Josh but she'll let them raise her kids?
Anna may have left the kids at the big house because of josh. And maybe the kids didn't want to go home because of josh. Anna knew stuff she will never tell. But maybe it was all to protect the kids
I can’t believe how much I enjoyed watching their show. What a bunch of hypocrites. And poor Jana is she stuck raising Anna’s kids now. It’s one thing to not get married if you don’t want to, but it’s quite another not to have the choice to date or not to know what it’s like to share physical intimacy. I don’t trust what goes on in that house.
I loved watching their show too. I actually looked forward to it. We were lied to all along. Jim Bob, Michelle & Josh are the worst liars.They are horrible & fake Christians! I really don't have any issues with any of the other kids.
I don’t have any issues with the other kids either, but you’d think at least a few of them would rebel and want an education and a job that has nothing to do with their dad.
Josh & Anna's relationship is more unhealthy than I thought. She needs to step up & take care of her own kids! She doesn't work, so there shouldn't be any issues about that. I'll be damned if I would be raising my brothers or sisters kids so they could shack up with their sick a$$ husband or wife! I'm stunned that the judge is going to let Jim Bob, Michelle & Anna supervise Josh! WTF is wrong with him? Maybe JB paid the judge off so Josh's sentence could be shorter & allowing JB, M & A to "supervise" Josh. It's sickening!
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If she blames JB & Michelle about Josh's *issues*, why have them keeping your kids?? Anna makes NO SENSE.
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@Angela G me too, sometimes I start to watch someone else and I log off because literally their voice will annoy me. 😂 This subject I exclusively get here.
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Josh needs to give thanks to God that he did not marry a Hispanic woman like myself. Many Hispanic women just cut it off and serve it to you for breakfast. I'm sure you all have read in the news.
I'm sure the Holts feel like their entire family dodged a bullet by Josh marrying someone else.
Yeah I wonder if deep down that’s part of the jealousy from Anna. Kaylee got away and didn’t end up with the cheating manipulative offender Anna did.
I didn’t know there was anyone but Anna
Hum I guess your right in that they dodge that but their no saints either. Their famy is just as screwed up just not everyone knows that because their family isnt in the public eye like the Duggars are.
Sure they feel blessed
The Holt family was smart enough to recognize what a danger he would be.
Anna needn’t worry about Josh giving his heart away. Josh’s first and only love is for himself.
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I didn’t believe in divorce. My husband committed adultery, wouldn’t let me go to church, beat me, strangled me. Friends encouraged us to go to counseling. The ‘Christian’ pastor told me it might be my fate to die…. I took our 3 month old son and left.
Oh my gosh!! Glad you got out! Idiot paster. So sorry that happened to you. :,(
@@hollylanevintagetreasures thank you! Kindness is more valuable than gold and more scarce than hens teeth.
oh my god i am so sorry this happened to you. i’m happy you were able to escape with your son and i hope you guys are doing much better now.
Same
Wow. That So called Pastor needs to be exposed. I am so sorry❤️
The way she looks up at him like Michelle does with Jim Bob is nauseating.
Yes it's really weird to watch them do that 😕
Yeah, I hate it.
They both come off as pathetic followers that don't have a thought of their own. That soft baby talk they often use is disgusting.
I hate that look
Why do the do that?! It’s so weird.
Okay. So Anna can't handle that her husband had a previous girlfriend, but is okay with him SA- ing his sisters?
I mean...
Make. It. Make. Sense. 🤦♀️
Bizzarrooo
Omg what can I say
She is sick...
The more I see Anna, I no longer see a helpless victim. She is very calculating and manipulative. She comes off sweet, clueless and meek…but watch her eyes. I believe she knew what Josh was up too and played a part in that behavior. I feel sorry for the children.
When she said after she had a baby she got to sleep and josh did everything even changed the diapers I got sick to my guts. Omg. 🤮🤢 I don’t trust him at all.
If she didn't know shame on her ifshe new shame shame on her
I agree
She was referring to Michelle. She said "you come over and help when I am in labor". I agree she needs to put her kids first, especially now they are going HBO grow up without their father.
I don't know how HBO got in their!😂I hate spell check!
Why wasn't she arrested for witness intimidation, or interfering in an investigation? It is illegal to try to get a witness to lie.
That was my question, all of the people she called and tried to sway like Carlin Bates. Witness tampering?
Anna hasn’t be arrested yet! But she could go to jail for intimidating a witness. It’s a class C felony in Arkansas she could potentially face up to four years in prison!
@@tracyh.8877 she’d get witness intimidation boy witness tampering! The crime she committed is much much more serious than witness tampering! If she gets arrested and charged she will possibly face a class C felony!
Well, I hope the law is working on this.
Oh my God I would love to see that happen
I grew up in a fundamentalist Christian household. Both parents involved in the church. My father was a serial adulterer and multiple elders from multiple churches told my mom to divorce my dad
Did she ?
@@erismana2105 yes. She has been free for over 20 years and has never been happier. It was actually us kids that finally inspired her to as a neighbor asked "is that the kind of man you want setting an example for your daughters in what a husband should be?"
Exactly. Fundamentalist allow and often encourage divorce if a spouse is behaving abusively or cheating. But the Duggar’s aren’t fundies, they’re in the IBLP cult 😵💫
2015 she found out he was dilly dallying around and yet she still had more kids.
Are you f-ing kidding me??? Anna, Jim Bob and Michelle can supervise the visits??? What's wrong with the courts?
What's wrong with the courts?: money😜 sounds that this judge is not much better
Jim Bob who has shown he will stop at nothing to silence josh’s victims. odd.
It has not been determined that Anna or the Duggars will be approved to supervise Pest when he’s released from prison in 10+ years. A lot can and will happen in the next decade.
All three of them should be in jail
That won't be decided until he is let out of prison in 12 1/2 years.
If his parole officer allows Anna or the Duggar's to be the supervisors of his interactions with children, then it's the epitome of irresponsibility from the state.
The Luggage did not stop Josh from molesting his sisters what makes anyone think they would do anything now and Anna will do what ever Josh says.
If I were his parole officer I would never allow Anna or any of the Duggars to be chaperones for him to have contact with any minor children.
We don’t have to worry about that for 12 1/2 years.
I don’t want to think about Josh caring for any child let alone a newborn 😖
She was referring to Michelle.
Yes creepy
If Josh’s parents did such a bad job raising him right, what the hell is she dumping her kids over to the “big house” all the time? 😵💫
Exactly!!!
Because she doesn’t GAF
Jana is probably watching them
I hear Jana is quite mean.
@@keeplearningandliving3995 Probably just fed up with being everyone's mother and having no life.
What woman in their right mind would want Josh? I realize that before everything came out no one knew what he really was, but even so, there's something about him that is just creepy, and he's not exactly hot either.
Josh, not honest with Anna before they married? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Referring to babies as "it" is depressing.
I agree but probably because they are big on gender reveals
Absolutely my first reaction, too! "It"???
She's saying that to talk about different sexes. Instead of saying he/she
She just flat out didn’t trust him. If there’s no trust there’s nothing there
He taught her to distrust him over & over again. The Duggars strongly encouraged Anna to forgive over & over again.
I agree!!! That is the HARDEST part to get back in a marriage when one partner was not faithful!!!
Exactly!
Not putting your kids first and giving them a secure environment can cause serious harm to kids that never goes away no matter how many years of therapy you have.
I can't imagine what the kids were thinking while she was living with Josh
@@terrihartung7837 I wonder, what she told the kids, about daaady?🤔🙄
@@jacquelinedavis253 true. SMH
True, but the less time they were with him, the better.
@@terrihartung7837 I know, they didn't figure out that something was seriously amiss?
Babies should not be left with him! I go cold at the thought. Thanks Katie.
I still think Jana “lied” bc she wasn’t actually the one responsible for them that day and they just had her take the fall bc it would be bad for the case if it fell on Anna
I agree with you!!! My gut tells me that Jana was completely innocent!!!
Could be.
I absolutely don’t believe Jana was babysitting Anna’s kids that day. That’s why she didn’t know what to say to police. I believe Jana was told/made to take the fall.
@@donnam.8254 the cop brought Mariella to the big house and Ana told the cop she didn’t know who mariella was . So she LIED.
Anna can’t give Josh what he wants because he wants little kids. Clearly Anna is too old for Josh’s liking. She can pump out children which means she isn’t one herself
I'm a Christian and I believe when it comes to immoral behaviors and also breaking the vows......you have every right to get out of that toxic relationship/marriage!!!!
He is toxic not only to Anna but to those children!!!!
@karenhamon2036 yes you're right, and I use to feel sorry for Anna. But as time went on, and realized she always defending him and blaming others for his behavior, she's just as guilty. If she chooses to stand with this man, she deserves everything she gets.
watching Anna talk about letting a man pursue you and "guarding your heart" is so triggering *rolls eyes* XD the moment I let go of this false theology I found my wonderful husband. We pursue EACH OTHER, that's what marriage is about!
The irony the people who say they love children and want to bring all these children into the world are the ones actually harming them and causing trauma
Yep this is so 💯 true. Sadly I’ve seen that situation up close and personal
The only person that wants Josh is Anna. Girl got some nerve to be so damn jealous.
Poor Jana. She's never given birth but has spent her whole life raising children who were not really her responsibility. Poor woman.
I wonder if she is there to protect her siblings there is so many secrets and lies in the Duggar cult house.
Maybe Jana is gay. Wouldnt that be a hoot
Who knows the reason why Jana is still there. But it was her choice. To stay calm and to be so obedient to jb and church, or drop it all and go to pursue her own life
Yes it is her choice ..she is codependent ..
She is awfully quiet she hasn’t said much about Josh ..
they are sick as their secrets !
I agree. Jana has gotten short changed
The Bible actually lists three causes for divorce: 1. Immorality, and 2. Abandonment. 3. Abuse.
Would cheating count as abandonment or immorality?
Cheating is the last of their issues. He’s attracted to children. That’s as immoral and abusive as they come.
This is a genuine question.. what verse(s) is this in?
She qualifies on all 3 counts as far as I’m concerned. Lol
@@emloufox it’s Mathew 5:31-32 is the verse most Christians have given me regarding divorce.
so if she favors her husband over her kids what did she allow him to do to their own?"
Calm down Anna! Your husband, Josh, wasn't a catch before, now, nor any time in history!
...except at the IBLP conferences, etc where Anna now gets held in high regard, gets invited to speak, feels rewarded & "proud" for all of the "forgiveness", "sacrifice" and "God's kind of love" she has for her husband, etc.
Pride goes before a fall...
I used to think Judge Brooks understood how the Duggars operate, but after he allowed himself to be swayed by those ridiculous letters, and now allowing Anna and the Duggars to be the supervisors, I’m just feeling bewildered and sad!😢 I mean, what the hell?!😳
There was no way the judge was going to give Josh the max. His sentence lines up perfectly with the average amount of time he sentences other SO to.
I'd like to josh in jail for life but that's not going to happen.
@@bmxsickness1975 he was talking about how the letters touched him, and how they showed Josh has a good support system. He clearly doesn’t understand that what he sees as support, is actually them enabling him to continue hurting people.
So basically, no supervision...that is so sick..
@@willowzoey3096 these judges make such weird choices
Wasn't there a "mother's helper", a young girl, living with Josh and Anna at some point? I wonder if anything happened to her regarding Josh...
She's a niece of Michelle's. She is doing fine. She was homeschooling with their tutor. I don't believe she lived with them.
YES!! That is the first thing I thought of when it started to hit the fan!!!
As a Christian I do believe that a couple should not divorce. However, there are situations that my faith allows for divorce. If my husband did what Josh did, I would divorce and take my daughter as far away from him as possible.
4] Divorce was not a rare occurrence in the community of God’s people. Moses may have divorced his first wife Zipporah (Exod. 18:2-3). Abraham effectively divorced Hagar, with God’s instigation and approval (Gen. 21:14 cf. Gen. 16:3). God said about himself that he divorced Israel because of her infidelity (Jer. 3:8). Under Ezra’s leadership, the Jews divorced their pagan wives (Ezra 10:2-3 NLT). In the New Testament, Joseph was planning on divorcing Mary by breaking their legally binding betrothal.
In the Hebrew of Malachi 2:16, God does not say, “I hate …” (first person singular); rather God says, “He [who] hates …” (third-person masculine singular). This “he” seems to be the man who hates and divorces his wife, and in so doing behaves unjustly towards her. (A divorced woman in Bible times could be very vulnerable and disadvantaged.)[1] look up marg Mowzcko this is her scholarly work.
As a Christian- I’m a huge advocate of divorce! And abortion!
@@jennb1152 I'd like to see the scripture that approves abortion.
Christian here as well. God does not want you to be cheated on. But NO She stayed and he has SA issues. All she got was more children. Now 7 all going to be hurt their dad was not the man he said he was. This is going to hurt them if it has not already. One day they will see him in the news.
@@r.peebles3290 go read the book of Numbers.
That is exactly why my divorce was granted, he was cheating.
Well the real problem is that they think they're better than everyone else and that they're compliance doesn't count.
Why does she still have custody someone help the kids.
Been saying that all along. Get those kids out of there
Anna's dad said don't tell your mom, don't tell anyone about her feelings for Josh,, its ok to keep secrets from the Spouse? If anyone should know about who your daughter loves should be her mom??!
It was don’t tell “Mommy”. Just so creepy. I keep using that word, but I can’t think of another. And, I don’t care what Anna says. She pursued, and her Father, pursued Josh for 2 years before “courting”. They were so convinced Josh was “the one” they were unwilling to see the copious red flags.
weird
Yes this was very disturbing being forced to KEEP JOSH SECRET FROM HER OWN MOTHER!! SICK FATHER!
If Anna was uneducated with regard to sexuality, etc. - did she REALLY understand what he did to his sisters before she was married???
something will happen and this will break. the tension. the story isn't over at alllllllll
I hope you’re right.
Agree
That’s what I just said too. Like it’s going to implode.
@@glorycloudwatch I feel like they are just working tooo too hard. if it was over they could all relax now and just accept that Josh is in prison.
Sounds chaotic af over there. Hot Mess Express. ☕🐸
Kinda makes my skin crawl. She is either the most gullible person in the world or she is a consenting part of this evil. Maybe both!
Anna is plain evil
Many years ago I was friends who worked at the Men's Prison in San Luis Obispo CA. She cared for Tex Watson, a killer who ran with the Manson Family. After Tex got to prison he found Jesus and started his own ministry. He was married to a gal and he used to SCREAM at her on visiting days if she bought curtains or spent money in a way he did not OK. That's Ana future. I fully expect Josh to start a prison ministry too.
This is interesting information. Something tells me Tex Watson didn’t find Jesus. He just used Jesus , probably hoping it would get him released. His wife should be glad he wasn’t or screamed at for buying curtains would probably be the least of her worries.
I just noticed that Anna looks at Josh the same way Michelle looks at Jim Bob.
You look great!
I guarantee Josh secretly recorded his sister's changing when they all still lived together.. he's always been into electronics, so he would've absolutely had the latest and greatest. I'd bet anything he did.
I have never seen Anna as a helpless victim. I see her as an enabler and completely aware of her husbands predilections and activities. Obviously she only cares about one person….Josh. I believe in my heart that these children have been damaged by this whole situation. What I cannot accept is
Well, when Josh gets out, his youngest sister will be an adult. He can always move into the big house.
Something that annoyed me about Anna was an episode of Counting On where all the sisters and sisters-in-law got together at Jessa’s to take a picture of all the baby girls and make nursing cookies. Anna made kind of a snarky comment to Kendra, because Kendra said she had trouble nursing her oldest. Then Abbie had picked up Maryella when she was crying and Anna was like “is that my baby?” Both Lauren and Kendra seemed uncomfortable around her. It seems like she’s been nasty to them in the past and it’s like, chill, woman, they don’t want your husband when they got the younger, better versions.
Lol…she thinks he is a real “ prize”. I can’t see anybody wanting that Elmer Fudd looking weirdo, even if he wasn’t a perverted convicted felon. It’s mostly the way he has acted since the very beginning of the show, you could tell he really thought he was something special.
@@SAC-xz5gl. Elmer Fudd is more attractive than Joshua Duggar.
I’m cringing when she refers to a newborn as “it” multiple times.
I thought maybe she was just trying to be gender neutral. But with everything else we know about the family, giving the benefit of the doubt isn't warranted
@@kristinhinton5789 I think they view babies as objects 😬
@@brittneylyntalks you could very well be right. I would not be surprised.
What?? She didn’t like the way they handled his court case!? WTF? Is there a “How to Handle a Paedophile (case)” manual written by annaduggar?
Anna’s speech about needing to be pursued prior to marriage made me GAG.
Haha funny to watch how he REALLY was bother to " pursuing" her. Still busy thinking about. Haha. (Sorry for my grammar mistakes. English my 4th languish
If Anna was so jealous about other women being around Josh, wonder what her feelings are about “Bubba” in prison?? Surely she must know what goes on behind prison doors!!
Haha! Josh will probably lie if that is the case. Not that I'd blame him. But he is so good at lying badly, why not.
🤣🤣🤣I hope he’s joyfully available for Bubba 🤣🤣🤣
I am sorry but what is bubba?
Except Seagoville prison where he is headed is mostly filled with predators because this specific prison has unique programs for them. So sadly, he will actually be around a bunch of (SICK AND TWSITED) empathizers.
A guy in prison that will do to him what was done to the children in the videos he watched.
“You don’t need to be feeling your package”. My gosh Anna gets creepier by the day. I no longer believe she was/is some naive brainwashed victim. Anna ( and her Dad) are obsessed fans of Josh and the Duggar’s.
Susan Kennedy, they also visibly obsessed from the begginning with Duggars wealth and fam. Just listening what her dad said before her marriage...that's all was important for him then?
And..." Don't tell mommie" 😯
@@melissakuipers7034 that always creeps me out… who tells their child not to tell their other parent anything, that is messed up!!
@@melissakuipers7034 ??
Wait, what???
Sounds like Josh gave Anna the impression he couldn't be trusted in the company of another female. I think it is the tip of the iceberg of what Josh has done!
I hope josh has done to him in prison what those poor babies in the videos had done to them that he liked to watch!!
He would probably like it gross 😝
You can blame parents all you want. But, there comes a time when you need to realize you are a grown up and take responsibility for your own actions. I think subconsciously Anna is so worried he is going to stray she attached to him at all costs and her children need her... If you can't trust your husband maybe you shouldn't be with him.. Anna is not his mother she is his wife... She should not have to worry about what Josh is doing it's taking time from her kids.. if she can watch his every move maybe she can control the situation.. obviously she can't do that. He has made his own decisions
I do not understand why they allegedly care for human life SO MUCH yet call newborns “it”
This is off topic but does anyone else find how Anna stares at Josh when she’s speaking super creepy?
I think she has an physical eye issue also, adding to the creep value. The kind of eye issue where you wear an eye patch and do exercises to fix it.
Michelle does the same thing it’s some weird thing their religion does they train the girls to stare at their husbands when she talks like they need permission
Oh yes and it’s disturbing!
Hair looks great what a fresh change but not too drastic. Thanks for keeping the content fresh girl!
I wonder if Anna will have a new favorite memory of josh when he's joyfully available for bubba open wide joshie lmao
That's hilarious 😂
Lol! I agree. 😂
Lmaoooo 🤣💀
Honestly he may not be attracted to woman 12 years from now!!!
I've always doubted how he could be supporting a family or even himself at that car lot. How much money can you legally make at a used car lot out in the "boonies"?
Supposedly, most of his sales were online, Internet sales. And I think the IBLP community tries to support each other’s businesses, giving Josh a built in sales market. Suck up to JB & Michelle, buy a car from Josh.
You would think, that after all this stuff, she would be wishing the first girl kept him.
Putting the Duggers in charge of Josh after he out is a joke. First time sending a message
You can’t hold someone accountable who won’t take responsibility
Well considering every problem is somehow the woman's fault in the IBLP it's no wonder Anna blames the other women instead of Josh. Michelle even said on the show once that if you aren't giving your husband what he wants he'll go find it elsewhere (part of that gross 'joyfully available' thing).
Do you think Michelle said that because she didn’t take care of her master and he went elsewhere?
This is really disgusting and this is the 'mother' of Josh. So it looks like she has built in a certain attitude in Josh.
Love the hair color! Love your videos! I can’t imagine how much research you do for each one!
Consider Anna gets blamed for Josh's behavior, she may have felt she had to keep other girls away from him. Remember too, he likes very young girls
Consider, that she married him, and had daughters. Knowing he likes very young girls.
I have no respect for Anna I hope her children are taking away from her.
They will never be able to supervise Josh. They have already failed at that miserably. Josh is a master manipulator and JB, Michelle, and Anna are all too busy telling Josh how awesome he is to be effective as supervisors. And as far as his probation goes, he will be done with that in his mid 60’s which is still young.
Knowing what we know, the beginning clips of them are so cringie!
I know, so true!
Agree!!
They are physically painful to watch 🫢🫣 lol
Yes! And ones of JB and Michelle also 🤢
I’m a Christian and in my church my pastor 100% would tell me to get divorced asap if my husband was doing what Josh was doing
Sounds like Anna knew and knows way more about Josh than anyone knows. Her behavior demonstrates that
I can’t stand the way she looks at Josh…it’s like she’s looking for approval of every word she speaks ☹️
Seems like a lot of this cult abdicates the raising of the young ones, to the older ones. I still remember KJ showing a clip of Michelle saying after she weaned the babies, she was done and handed them off to the older girls to raise. That video haunts me.
Anna once said something about that, she wasn’t going to be like m, she was going to care for her babies and children. It seems like they just don’t like babies and children, so pass them off to anyone. They are so weird
And then to say it’s gods will to have as many children as you can? Nah. Pretty sure he isn’t ok with your procreating so much that you can’t take care of them.
The only problem that Michelle DONE too soon. Often you can watch "older" little girls draging few months old babies around. Even the last one girl, born with special and very serious health complications, was from the beginning in Jana's arms.
@@lilacscentedfushias1852 I remember that vividly!
@@lilacscentedfushias1852 right, they like to be nonstop pregnant and be proud of it.
Anna….raise your own kids….raising your kids is not Jana’s job…it’s your job!
I was shocked when the judge did not make it mandatory that he take the csam classes/program.
The classes don't work.
Thanks for all you do…AND your hair colour is terrific!🇨🇦
So the other ex girlfriend was smarter then Anna. She got gone.
It is not immoral to divorce a violent predator.
Immoral to eat and sleep with him. Even touching his clothes, according the Bible. Are they not reading the Bible at all?
I find it hard to believe that Anna made him move to D.C. He went because he got a great job
I agree
SO SCARY to leave a new born baby in his hands!!
She and/or Jim Bob and Michelle ca be proper supervisors???? WTH. Absolutely unbelievable. It really seems that no one give a damn about those kids
If Anna doesn’t buckle down, she could lose those kids. I feel for those kids, I can’t even imagine what their lives will be like. I also feel for Jana, that lady deserves her own life.
She’s a middle aged woman who knows how to leave.
If you are referring to Jana, she might feel some responsibility to the children. I was hoping she would see how well Jinger has done and leave.
If you are speaking of Anna, she is financially tied to the Duggar’s.
@@Lea2008-k8b I was talking about Jana. What a waste.
@@sallylunn8324 lol, at 31 or 32, Jana is not middle aged. At 34, Anna is not middle aged
@@sallylunn8324 lol, at 31 or 32, Jana is not middle aged. At 34, Anna is not middle aged
"Now they have 7 kids to take care of, on top of Anna. And Jana is basically the mom."
Well deserved.
ALL OF THEM deserve this, including Jana.
So, Anna does more against the non threat of Kaylee than the actual betrayal's of dating site/affairs/CP ...
Anna lived in a constant state of suspicion yet when those suspicions have been confirmed, repeatedly, she carries on business as usual 🤔
Anna is just a nasty human being! My heart breaks for the children! I pray CPS takes the kids!
That's my hope too.
Exactly! Absolutely agree. She's vile and gross. Get those kids out of there already!
8:41 "You don't need to be feeling your package"?!?! Anna, what the hell? And the fact that she has NO IDEA what that implies to 99% of other people on this planet proves the point that she is unbelievably immature, so naive, dangerously sheltered and therefore completely gullible. Basically the perfect IBLP wife 👍
Or she used it as a double entendre.
Stupid is as stupid does! One stupid choice after another!?! Beginning was wrong and absolutely stupid. Now she is not naive teenager. And not even close like a christian. Guess, soon you'll be more shock to hear about duggars
It's a cult, they all have dark secrets, lies and horrible behavior.
To be fair I didn’t hear it that way when she said that until I read your comment….and I went to public schools 😅
I thought Katie said if Josh was found guilty, the court would force the kids to undergo evaluations?
If Anna was that way with an ex girlfriend why is she that way now; with regards towards Josh, and why she won't protect her children. I hope my comment makes sense.
Your comment does make sense!
Based on the behaviour we have seen from Anna thus far, she’s going to be dutifully visiting Josh every chance she has. The only thing preventing this would be if he was very far away, beyond driving distance. And then she’ll probably move closer to the prison, with or without the kids.
Hopefully he won't be allowed visitors for half of the years
@@dorisbarczak3751 I agree. I’m not sure how visitation works in the federal system. Or video calls. From what I understand, the video call times are far more stringent than in county jail where he is now.
It would be good if visits would only be allowed once a month at most so Anna would have motivation to be with her kids.
If she can visit weekly or more, she may ditch the kids at the big house and get a place near the prison.
Of course Jim Bob would have to agree and fund the move.
@@pattyo4703 I honestly think that Jim Bob would support Anna moving close to the prison he is in. Jim Bob has shown, time and time again that he will do anything to benefit Josh. To the exclusion of everyone else. Not even Josh’s kids take priority. I can tell by the letter Michelle wrote that she appears to feel the same way.
She only cares about Josh she doesn’t care about her kids! Her kids are props just like Michelle used her 19 kids as props. Evil women!
The color change makes you look younger!! Enjoy the red, I had it last summer and might need to go back!
I’m not concerned with Josh getting out. Hell break those rules so quickly he’ll be back in.
Agree, but sadly, that means more innocent victims
@@candaceion9622 hopefully not. Even using a phone to take a picture of a car without permission can land him back in. Based on the guidance that was provided at sentencing-his life is over.
She's upset with how Josh was raised bc how he is falls back on them. Yet has no issues with her kids being at that house 24/7. If you don't like what they did with Josh but she'll let them raise her kids?
The big house is probably the only safe place for the kids.
I love that color shirt on you! And, the hair looks so pretty. Thanks for all your videos 😊
Anna may have left the kids at the big house because of josh. And maybe the kids didn't want to go home because of josh. Anna knew stuff she will never tell. But maybe it was all to protect the kids
I can’t believe how much I enjoyed watching their show. What a bunch of hypocrites. And poor Jana is she stuck raising Anna’s kids now. It’s one thing to not get married if you don’t want to, but it’s quite another not to have the choice to date or not to know what it’s like to share physical intimacy. I don’t trust what goes on in that house.
I loved watching their show too. I actually looked forward to it. We were lied to all along. Jim Bob, Michelle & Josh are the worst liars.They are horrible & fake Christians! I really don't have any issues with any of the other kids.
Me too I can't believe I liked the show that much
I don’t have any issues with the other kids either, but you’d think at least a few of them would rebel and want an education and a job that has nothing to do with their dad.
Me too! I used to love it because they were so different and wholesome
Josh & Anna's relationship is more unhealthy than I thought. She needs to step up & take care of her own kids! She doesn't work, so there shouldn't be any issues about that. I'll be damned if I would be raising my brothers or sisters kids so they could shack up with their sick a$$ husband or wife! I'm stunned that the judge is going to let Jim Bob, Michelle & Anna supervise Josh! WTF is wrong with him? Maybe JB paid the judge off so Josh's sentence could be shorter & allowing JB, M & A to "supervise" Josh. It's sickening!
Any "belief system" that leaves you or your children in harms way is NOTHING Jesus would support.
I don’t think Anna was insecure - she just knows how her husband is willing to cheat with anyone. She should have left him. It would have been easier
There, referring to a baby as an “it.” Michelle did the same thing. My goodness, this is very telling.
Can you imagine how Jana’s life would change if she moved in with Jinger?
That would be so cool to see.