Fixing the Wavy Floor Structure | Home Renovation & Addition Part 27

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024

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  • @mariowickel456
    @mariowickel456 2 года назад +56

    I'm impressed with Donavan, be glad you started this project and got the right contractor. He's correcting all the previous work that was done poorly

    • @dawsie
      @dawsie 2 года назад +1

      I know I was shocked to see the rookie mistakes made by the previous builder

  • @nkuete
    @nkuete 2 года назад +8

    Ship of Theseus
    An easier way to remember that concept though is "This is my grandfather's ax. My father replaced the handle and I replaced the head"

  • @billk8780
    @billk8780 2 года назад +27

    Applaud Donavan's attention in following the engineering drawings AND properly fixing other structural deficiencies you discover! All the best to you guys!

  • @ObiSeanKenobi
    @ObiSeanKenobi 2 года назад +18

    The ship thing Matt was trying to recall is the ship of Theseus , from Wikipedia, "In the metaphysics of identity, the Ship of Theseus is a thought experiment that raises the question of whether an object that has had all of its components replaced remains fundamentally the same object. The concept is one of the oldest in Western philosophy, having been discussed by Heraclitus and Plato by c. 500-400 BC."

    • @technolefty
      @technolefty 2 года назад +2

      Came here to say Ship of Theseus. Good it's already been answered. Philosophers all.

    • @sfan2767
      @sfan2767 2 года назад +3

      Came here for this too.
      I recently fixed my back gate which was rotting in place. I now call it the "Gate of Theseus" because I took it off the hinges, and replaced every piece except the hinges and fence board slats before putting it back up. I couldn't decide if I repaired my gate or made a new gate with some salvaged pieces.

    • @dkstotz
      @dkstotz 2 года назад +2

      See Sampson Boat Co episode 58:
      ruclips.net/video/tW15VnkEmQ0/видео.html

  • @kellilangvo
    @kellilangvo 2 года назад +2

    I’m stepping way out of my lane but I’ll say it anyway: every time I hear you say welcome back to this ‘renovation thing’, I think to myself - it’s not a renovation thing…calling it that minimizes the enormity of what you’re undertaking - with just the help of one other person! …I’d say it’s a major home remodel/addition project…I’m learning so much following along and appreciate you sharing it with everyone…to quote Essential Craftsman: Keep up the good work👍🏽❤️

  • @johnking8679
    @johnking8679 2 года назад

    Moving right along !! Slowly, but surely, Matt and Donavan !!

  • @18robsmith
    @18robsmith 2 года назад +25

    Perhaps the name you are looking for is "The Ship of Theseus"?

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад +3

      Thank you!

    • @18robsmith
      @18robsmith 2 года назад +2

      @@mcremona My pleasure to have been of service Sir 🙂

    • @OntarioFirewoodResource
      @OntarioFirewoodResource 2 года назад

      🤣🤣

    • @RobotRiedingerEd
      @RobotRiedingerEd 2 года назад

      Matthew, check out the Tally Ho project. ruclips.net/user/SampsonBoatCo

    • @TowerHand
      @TowerHand 2 года назад +3

      Or Talley Ho? 😉 ask Leo on the Sampson Boat Co channel.

  • @hitnorcal
    @hitnorcal 2 года назад +25

    Donovan is hilarious. I hope you make this a regular thing where you visit him on future job sites and bs for an episode.

  • @michaelsnell4034
    @michaelsnell4034 2 года назад +10

    Ship of Theseus. I know this from watching Sampson Boat Company rebuilding Tally Ho

    • @mikemcphaden5364
      @mikemcphaden5364 2 года назад +1

      Thats where I was going. LOL!

    • @michaelsnell4034
      @michaelsnell4034 2 года назад

      @@mikemcphaden5364 It was also mentioned in Wanda Vision when the Vision she created met the Vision that was rebuilt from dead Vision.

    • @wlmjbrown
      @wlmjbrown 2 года назад +1

      Did we all learn about the Ship of Theseus from Leo Goolden.

    • @andrewscott9919
      @andrewscott9919 2 года назад

      @@wlmjbrown yes we did. I commented before I read the rest of this thread. You all are really great!

  • @jeffgrant935
    @jeffgrant935 2 года назад +24

    It might go unnoticed, but your camera placements and editing on this are really, really good... excellent perspective on what's going on.

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад +21

      Things that if done well, should go unnoticed 😄

    • @jeffgrant935
      @jeffgrant935 2 года назад +2

      @@mcremona Exactly. :)

    • @clamage
      @clamage 2 года назад +3

      @@jeffgrant935 10:07 is particularly fine - I'm sure Donavan appreciates that one :D

    • @RobertHorton1975
      @RobertHorton1975 2 года назад +1

      For example, 4:30

  • @donwilliams3626
    @donwilliams3626 2 года назад +17

    The quality control guy must have blinked when the carpenter installed those floor joists!

    • @lyndamcardle4123
      @lyndamcardle4123 2 года назад

      What Quality Control bloke ?
      I think the previous owner / owners may have bypassed that !

  • @northvegassailrabbit3642
    @northvegassailrabbit3642 2 года назад

    I also enjoy Donovan and hope you guys will be making more videos after this job.

  • @IEnjoyCreatingVideos
    @IEnjoyCreatingVideos 2 года назад +2

    Great progress Matt you and Donavan make a great team :) Thanks for sharing the video with us!👍💖😎JP

  • @dazryan3463
    @dazryan3463 2 года назад +7

    Really love the positive banter in these videos. It is a joy to watch you guys push through obvious frustrations

  • @hjemison
    @hjemison 2 года назад +5

    To see a good example of a ship restoration like you were speaking of, see Sampson Boat CO’s rebuilding of the 111 year old sailboat “Tally Ho”.

    • @CharlieTidwell
      @CharlieTidwell 2 года назад +1

      Yes! I don’t comment often, but popped into comments to make sure someone mentioned them!

    • @jumar360
      @jumar360 2 года назад

      That's where I learned about the ship of Theseus. It's the same boat but all the parts have been changed.

    • @andrewscott9919
      @andrewscott9919 2 года назад

      @@jumar360 In the Tally Ho re-construction, all but part of the transom were replaced. BTW the original transom had to be cut back on the sides, so the wood became lower than it was origninally, but it worked.

  • @markbrown6236
    @markbrown6236 2 года назад +3

    The dip in the floor, you always find something like that when remodeling.
    Good job fixing that.

  • @QuinLeach
    @QuinLeach 2 года назад

    Ship of Theseus or "grandfather's axe" - good video.

  • @anthonynicholas1165
    @anthonynicholas1165 2 года назад

    It's a bit like my fifteen year old broom, it's had four new heads and ten new handles, it's a great broom.

  • @jeffgrant935
    @jeffgrant935 2 года назад +20

    You two have a really great chemistry. Hopefully you exploit that further well after you're done your reno here.

  • @nickpeelman
    @nickpeelman 2 года назад

    i loved watching This Old House with my dad when i was a kid. this brings back those same juices.

  • @gdp3rd
    @gdp3rd 2 года назад +6

    When our kitchen floor was pulled up we found a hole patched with a flattened Pabst Blue Ribbon can, but at least all the joists were attached. But the entire house sagged about 3/8" in the middle, so we have a series of permanent jacks down in the unfinished basement.

    • @judithfairchild8620
      @judithfairchild8620 2 года назад

      You need a Donovan to come fix it properly. The sags in both yours and Matt's floors may be due to ground sagging after the build.

    • @kenc2257
      @kenc2257 2 года назад

      @@judithfairchild8620 Well...at least 2 of the sags/swales in Matt's floor are caused by those joists NOT being connected.

    • @judithfairchild8620
      @judithfairchild8620 2 года назад

      @@kenc2257 yes I noticed. Poor construction.

  • @bay9876
    @bay9876 2 года назад +2

    The building and entertainment at it's finest. Great works come from great bantering between builders.

  • @andrewmiller2868
    @andrewmiller2868 2 года назад +1

    "I can't deal with your feelings" Donavan just cracks me up 🤣😂🤣😂.

  • @mgena717
    @mgena717 2 года назад

    You were thinking of the Ship of Theseus!

  • @karaDee2363
    @karaDee2363 2 года назад +1

    Great job! Love watching you guys work Matt, never a dull moment. And for some reason I find your home remodeling videos the most fascinating and fun to watch besides your furniture making videos.

  • @Jammer.1
    @Jammer.1 2 года назад +1

    Yeh i agree you got one the best contractors in Donavan ! He knows how to fix the job right even wjen he has to bounce around doing it !

  • @paulhammond7489
    @paulhammond7489 2 года назад +3

    Nice fix on the 'Dippy Floor'

  • @harrygreene8669
    @harrygreene8669 Год назад

    Binging this series the past few days, been walking around the house with my tape measure. My wife is suspicious.

  • @alanblasczyk1779
    @alanblasczyk1779 2 года назад

    I just got back home from my trip to my nephews wedding in Indiana. Great video of working on the fly Matt. You both make a great team.

  • @richardthornhill4630
    @richardthornhill4630 2 года назад +3

    Much more difficult to remodel someone else's work than to build it. Will be solid when Donavan completes the project.

  • @ggbuck2625
    @ggbuck2625 2 года назад

    I've never done a remodel project (yet) that didn't have some hidden gotcha. At least you have a contractor who thinks like he's going to live there and is willing to fix the problems correctly. All that hard work and BS will pay dividends down the road and you'll be happy you tackled it when you did.

  • @itzcaseykc
    @itzcaseykc 2 года назад

    It's coming along slowly but surely... even with setbacks and unexpected issues. You guys are doing a great job!

  • @garyrogers6761
    @garyrogers6761 2 года назад

    As an aside, I am a Plumber in Australia and here we put roofs on and we use what we term 'builders blanket', which is that glass wool with a thick foil backing. When you are doing a roof here it gets warm on the roof and the glass wool sticks to you, the way I found to get rid of most of it at the end of the day is to have a warm\hot shower and use a face washer to 'wash down your skin as it removes 'most' of the prickly bits ? I am old now so it is up to you young folks to put up with those fun things .

  • @stevieg.4816
    @stevieg.4816 2 года назад

    I saw a floor out like yours once and the carpenters put shims in the buckets to raise the joist, absolutely JACKLEG. You guys did it the right way, not easy, but right never is on a repair. Great Job.

  • @jimp.4531
    @jimp.4531 2 года назад

    thx for the journey so far.

  • @moes2168
    @moes2168 Год назад

    How do three missing hangers go unnoticed? All the way from workers who installed the joists, the baseboards, the furnace? Sounds like they all had "not my problem" complex. Glad it was caught and repaired.

  • @chrisbarr1359
    @chrisbarr1359 2 года назад +1

    I can also hear the 'Steve Martin' in Donovan's voice now that a fellow sub mentioned it.
    PS: Donovan's new company shirts look great. Big improvement, more stylish 😎.

  • @rayvoorhies7180
    @rayvoorhies7180 2 года назад +9

    Note to self. Don't attend any party's at Matt's with more than ten people in the room. 😉 Its a lot stronger after your repairs. You'll see a lot more progress after the electricians move the wires.

  • @andrewscott9919
    @andrewscott9919 2 года назад

    Check out tally ho. Leo had to essentially replace they entire boat. He had a segment about what it is called when you replace, in his case, the almost the entire boat, but O don't remember what he called it. Just checked out your comments and some else came up with the same comment. How wonderful that I am not the only one to think of this. Great youtube channel.

  • @Hertog_von_Berkshire
    @Hertog_von_Berkshire 2 года назад +1

    The little yellow pry-bar: I have a very similar one by Faithful. One of my favourite tools.

  • @rogerdudra178
    @rogerdudra178 11 месяцев назад

    Greetings from the BIG SKY. To error is human I've heard.

  • @irvanairvana4055
    @irvanairvana4055 2 года назад +1

    Looks like you guys make the best of a not perfect situation. Makes for good viewing for us.

  • @kenbabione7946
    @kenbabione7946 2 года назад +1

    Channel Lock makes a nifty side cutter that makes pulling headless nails easy.

  • @GB-dj1kg
    @GB-dj1kg 2 года назад

    I am proud of you guys for not saying the swear words I know you were thinking! As others have said, you did good when you picked your contractor. Thanks for taking me along the ride!

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад +1

      Plenty were said and plenty ended up on the cutting room floor

  • @mauriceryton
    @mauriceryton 2 года назад

    Starting to get there.

  • @george8873
    @george8873 2 года назад

    You and Donovan make a great team. Surprised the inspector didn't catch those floor joists that weren't attached on the final inspection. Looks like that slate was supporting the whole floor. Shows how good of a job that floor installer did if the slate never cracked without being properly supported.

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад +1

      Wasn’t easy to see from below with the furnace trunks in place

  • @tomfeldkamp4554
    @tomfeldkamp4554 2 года назад

    We saw what looked like sheets of 3/4 inch tongue-and-groove OSB used as the new sub-floor patches, but how did you secure them... nails, screws, with or without adhesive??? Good job of fixing the root causes of the problems you uncover ("I live here!") and letting us look over your shoulders. As a DIYer, I'm learning a lot, but especially from the remodel part of your project. Thanks for sharing the brutal reality of schedule disruptions and the interconnectedness of it all. Very helpful RUclips series! Thanks.

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад

      They’re just dry fit for now so the electricians can access everything from above if needed. Thanks!

  • @jeanhawken4482
    @jeanhawken4482 2 года назад +1

    Such a huge build and you are all doing a brilliant job

  • @jimmowers7675
    @jimmowers7675 2 года назад

    Great progress Matt. Thanks for sharing. God Bless.

  • @MichaelNatrin
    @MichaelNatrin 2 года назад

    Great video.

  • @keithkenny4576
    @keithkenny4576 2 года назад

    It helps when you have the right man for the job, when things go bad they just keep going bad

  • @seanchinery
    @seanchinery 2 года назад

    The Ship of Theseus

  • @RatelLaw
    @RatelLaw 2 года назад

    Thank you for sharing

  • @SteveP-vm1uc
    @SteveP-vm1uc 2 года назад

    I think the original builder came from Florida. Down here it is impossible to find a plumb wall or a straight tile line. Every electrical wire is pulled tight and forget about trim!!! Cabinets in this house were hung from a lowered ceiling that had 2x4s on their SIDES that had zero bridging. I swear the drywall on the dining room side was all that was holding up that side of the kitchen ceiling and cabinets. Adding insult to injury, they did this to have an "OPEN FEEL" from the kitchen to the dining room.. My builder buddy was here helping me tear out the kitchen and we both saw this at the same time and looked at each other in disbelief!!

  • @jonahbones7901
    @jonahbones7901 2 года назад +1

    lol whenever your tempted to use a li-ion battery as a hammer, remember they are expensive and if the damage results in thermal runaway you have a fire u cant put out in a wooden room :)

  • @MikeWest_W
    @MikeWest_W 2 года назад +3

    It’s called the ship of Tally Ho

    • @berg8970
      @berg8970 2 года назад +2

      I find it interesting how many of us watch the same things.

    • @18robsmith
      @18robsmith 2 года назад +2

      @@berg8970 We enjoy hard work - especially when it's being done by others who are skilled craftsmen.

    • @MikeWest_W
      @MikeWest_W 2 года назад

      There are a lot of skills that are learned better with a mentor than from a book. RUclips creators (like Matt and Leo) have inspired and enabled me to pursue hobbies and crafts I’ve always been curious about.

  • @doriWyo
    @doriWyo 2 года назад +2

    10:34: Donavan's disappearing shoe treads prove he's a working man!

  • @OzMurf
    @OzMurf 2 года назад

    This is really great real content. I am always entertained. Thank you

  • @robertpearson8546
    @robertpearson8546 Год назад

    What are the joists made of? They look like particle board, but particle board is just sawdust and glue and bows under even the slightest load.

  • @kbaker7430
    @kbaker7430 2 года назад

    Thank you for another entertaining and informative session. Good work fellas.

  • @richardangevine3768
    @richardangevine3768 2 года назад

    So glad you all found that, before trying to set a piano on that area.

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад

      The furnace would have caught it 😄

  • @pl5bnsf
    @pl5bnsf 2 года назад

    I was groaning thinking of how to fix that floor sag. But you made it look almost easy. Watching you tear up the floor to expose the joists was painful!

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад

      That’s where all the work was. I spent the previous day removing the subfloor that was missing in the intro

  • @surebrah
    @surebrah 2 года назад

    I like this series. Feels relatable.

  • @acoow
    @acoow 2 года назад

    Ship of Theseus. See also Trigger's Broom and Grandfather's Axe.

  • @kajem575
    @kajem575 2 года назад

    GET A HAIRCUT YA' HIPPIES!
    (My father and his National Guard buddies)
    So at 15 I left home joined a R&R band 🔉🎛🎚🎧🎤🎙🎸🥁🎹⌨️💽🖥🎷🎼🔊 and started growing my hair and by 20 it was at my beltline.😁
    Fairly complicated stuff.
    Coming along nicely.
    You are doing a fine job.
    How many more weeks do you project to finish?
    🙂✌️❤

  • @shantanarain2841
    @shantanarain2841 2 года назад

    Get er done Donivan Matt was able to walk on the joists because he's soo light soaking wet he could dance on those floating joists and it's only slightly moving .. if I stepped on that I would have fallen through ages ago

  • @charlesbrunner258
    @charlesbrunner258 2 года назад

    Wow a working video great job of going from plan a to plan z nice

  • @OceanofMaya
    @OceanofMaya 2 года назад +7

    Guy with 30 years experience "I wouldn't stand there" Guy with 1 year experience "I would"...when that happens, it's always best not to stand close to the guy with one year experience:).

  • @danbrookshire5628
    @danbrookshire5628 2 года назад

    Looks like the electricians need to make an appearance.

  • @neilscole
    @neilscole 2 года назад

    Matt, you're thinking "Ship of Theseus." :)

  • @JosephClatterbuck
    @JosephClatterbuck 2 года назад

    3:53 Ship of Theseus

  • @FredMcIntyre
    @FredMcIntyre 2 года назад

    Awesome stuff Matt! 😃👍🏻👊🏻

  • @kimAndNate
    @kimAndNate 2 года назад +1

    ship of Theseus

  • @TaylerMade
    @TaylerMade 2 года назад

    you were lucky you got an old school experienced builder. this is why when you set a budget for renovation you double it.

  • @charlesarnold4963
    @charlesarnold4963 2 года назад

    I cannot believe a builder would leave joists that are not connected at one end. That is quite scary! Also I noticed that there are no noggins between the joists, to prevent them warping and twisting.

  • @chipeddy7303
    @chipeddy7303 2 года назад +1

    3 things you rarely find in a house are level, plumb & square

  • @silverwoodchuck47
    @silverwoodchuck47 2 года назад

    4:00 Ship of Theseus

  • @normolson1
    @normolson1 2 года назад

    Great job guys, thanks

  • @Drew-de7ey
    @Drew-de7ey 2 года назад +2

    ship of theseus

    • @MarkUKInsects
      @MarkUKInsects 2 года назад +1

      In the UK we also have "Trigger’s broom", from a BBC sitcom. Watch on RUclips, will make sense.

  • @pinwizz69
    @pinwizz69 2 года назад

    Are you going to be replacing the fiberglass insulation with closed cell spray insulation thar has over double the R value of fiberglass ?
    Not to mention that it doesn't have the draft issue that fiberglass has.
    It's so fascinating watching Donovan putting up with your highjinks Matt.
    He's definitely a patient well trained gentleman.
    Tho he may take umbrage at being called a gentleman 🤪

  • @matthewwright57
    @matthewwright57 2 года назад

    Ship of Theseus

  • @benhatcher2603
    @benhatcher2603 2 года назад +1

    Ship of Theseus is the thing you were trying to remember. If every plank is replaced on the voyage, does the original ship remain?

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад

      Yes, exactly. Thank you!

  • @jumar360
    @jumar360 2 года назад

    Ship of Theseus.

  • @gayle4804
    @gayle4804 2 года назад

    Awesome! Great job!

  • @yinn2yang
    @yinn2yang 2 года назад +1

    great job

  • @johanhearn7720
    @johanhearn7720 2 года назад

    Awesome job.

  • @janedc5ch319
    @janedc5ch319 2 года назад

    The floor remains me of a apt. I once lived in. You walk in the bedroom ,and went down hill.
    You couldn't complain about anything wrong with the place , the manager would get mad. Like when the lights wouldn't go on over the sink in bathroom.
    After buying new bulbs. It still had problems. She got really mad at me and said, you have to turn the switch on very slowly. Sometimes that worked. What a pain liveing there

  • @kmccontube
    @kmccontube 2 года назад +3

    You are really lucky that floor was over the utility room. That would have sucked if it had a finished ceiling.

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад +1

      Luckily it was flat over the finished ceiling space

  • @ScottBaietti
    @ScottBaietti 2 года назад

    How did the previous builder just forget to attach the joists? Aren't there inspections that should catch that kind of thing?

  • @chwilhogyn
    @chwilhogyn 2 года назад

    Thanks for the metric, one-note that European building work is measured by 'millimetre or mill (mm)' and 'meters (m) but some builders might use 'centimetre (cm)'
    1mm = 1/25 inch
    2mm = 1/16 inch
    3mm = 3/32 inch
    4mm = 1/8 inch
    5mm = 3/16 inch
    6mm = 1/4 inch
    7mm = over 1/4 inch
    8mm = 5/16 inch
    9mm = 3/8 inch
    10mm = over 3/8 inch
    13mm = 1/2 inch
    16mm = 5/8 inch
    19mm = 3/4 inch
    25mm = 1 inch

    • @mcremona
      @mcremona  2 года назад

      Feel free to move the decimal 😄

    • @chwilhogyn
      @chwilhogyn 2 года назад

      @@mcremona 🤣👍

  • @smokencoin3425
    @smokencoin3425 2 года назад

    Coming along nice 👍🏽

  • @ohasis8331
    @ohasis8331 2 года назад

    Pretty scary floating joist problem. Those kind of things cause me to wonder what else they'd missed, forgotten or simply not bothered about.

  • @stevebabiak6997
    @stevebabiak6997 2 года назад

    The swale on the floor might have been due to the weight of that slate flooring that was there previously. Joists should have had some reinforcement before that was installed in the first place.

  • @TheVitorgoncalves
    @TheVitorgoncalves 2 года назад

    good job guys

  • @firesurfer
    @firesurfer 2 года назад

    Leaving comment, as instructed. Keep on truckin'.
    btw, those hangers seem to be short. Could have used the next size up.

  • @Mysiltour
    @Mysiltour 2 года назад

    Bonjour, ça va être un bel intérieur👍

  • @cbryantbear6498
    @cbryantbear6498 2 года назад

    Curious thought, find any “dead bodies” or “hidden treasures?”

  • @joshuahasson9687
    @joshuahasson9687 2 года назад

    Are you thinking of “lofting out” a ship?

  • @frederickboyd1415
    @frederickboyd1415 2 года назад

    So much retrofitting going on here Mat,glad I'm not doin it in mine.

  • @christobar
    @christobar 2 года назад

    Matt Cremona's "house". Well it was a house before they started! :-D :-D