Mason struggling to keep track of just the two Kangs we've seen so far is a good indication of how normal audiences will react when there's infinite Kangs to fight.
Mason didn’t lose track at all, his recap of the Kangs thus far was spot on! But they had a lot of questions about what happens next, which Kang is going to be THE Kang, was this Kang pure evil? I agree that it may get very messy and confusing to general audiences. I genuinely don’t know how they are going to tackle this.
I turned to my brother and was like "I suppose this is why they first called Hank Ant Man" Batman was using entire populations of bats to make a sonar map, typical hipster doing it before it was cool. I want to see more thematically appropriate bugs. Let's have Spiderman train an army of tarantulas.
I’ve been fatigued by the MCU for a while and was expecting this movie to be bad and just didn’t think it was and I’m not sure why. Cassie isn’t like Cassie, the Ant-Man powers don’t work like the past movies, it’s not very funny, and Hope and Janet don’t do anything but for some reason those criticisms don’t affect me much. I just liked it
Hank Pym is my favourite character now! Loved him in the what if episode, loved him in the ANT-MAN promotion from nine years ago and now i love him as an absolute mad lad
I miss watching these on RUclips, I remember years ago, literally over half a decade now actually lol when I discovered these fellas, I was going through an opiate addiction (and it's subsequent recovery, there's a happy ending lol) and there was nothing better than being unemployed, getting high in the sunshine through my basement window as I hid in my damp dark domain lololol, and blissfully drifted off listening to these 2 aussy weirdos lol Luckily enough, during my cold turkey recovery, these 2 were one of the only pods I could listen to that would bring me peace. The upbeat positivity and genuine good souls of these two was just a beautiful thing that doesn't exist in too many places. I listen on Big Sandwich these days but miss tuning in here, there's a nostalgia to it. So here i am for old times sake lol grab that pill..I mean...gem...grab that gem folks! ✌️ ☯️
I hope things are going great for you. I was in a similar situation.... I am now a practicing Methadonian.... I hope to ween off by the end of the year. But to be honest, just staying out of trouble is the primary objective this year. Congrats on your recovery. It is not easy, so really, big ups to you... 😊🐻
I think the comment about critics reaching their breaking point was spot on. I desperately want to avoid DCEU style 'critics are bias' talk, but with this entire phase, there has been a critcal feeling of 'oh, we don't have to be nice to these anymore.' It reminds me of the Michale Bay Transformers' films where the reviews quickly became less about appraising the film and more just airing grievances and bemoaning the 'state of things.'
32:15 that’s exactly what I said! It’s the best Marvel poster in a veryyy long time, no big faces, no random splashes of BS, it’s art and it looks good
The Victor Timely guy is the Quantum realm Kang. He's also the Kang statue at the end of Loki. He's stepped in to control the TVA since Sylvie killed Hehoo Remaynes. And time dilation.
I was having a right good time with Quantumania myself. Sorry y’all seem to not have had the best time. I was having some chuckles, loved the 60s sci fi vibes and pulpyness. I loved MODOK’s little butt. Just a good time I had.
@@thedarkemissary lol i kinda do hope this happens. I kept an eye on his heart rate monitor as he died hoping it wouldnt flatline but it looks like he did.
DC 100% had the conversation with Grant Gustin when Phase 4 integrated series into the MCU. If it was a year ago when they were still trying to play catch up this would be happening.
I really like Ant-Man. Really enjoyed it. I don't see what the problem is that critics seem to have but I tend not to listen to critics anyway. They are after all just people with opinions.
I liked Quantumania more than most of Phase 4. I think James is right on the money that this got the low rating on RT because it was one mediocre marvel movie too many. The goodwill has dried up and the critics are no longer giving them the benefit of the doubt. Swap the release dates of this with Love and Thunder and you'd likely swap the critical response as well.
fun fact: “Schweppervescence” was a word made up by AZ on Nas’ song “Life’s a Bitch” and, if I remember correctly, refers to the simplicity of life in the ghetto.
I guess you missed the part where they literally say they agree with EVERY criticism they have read and heard about the movie. They don’t think any better of the movie than anyone else. They simply aren’t invested in hammering the criticism in. That’s all. They didn’t say anything new and the share the same opinions as everyone else. The movie is bad. And most people don’t need someone to talk softly about how bad it is for them to accept it’s bad.
Having worked at the cinema, hearing "Yell at the teenage projectionist" had me LOL! I was the teenager cleaning up after the movie, the projectionist was a PROFESSIONAL in a TRADE UNION who slotted in just under the CEO of the theater chain...wouldn't be surprised if he had been granted the power of flight on account of his elevated status.
@@luckyspurs As someone who's listened to almost every episode, I'm pretty sure it's just that James loves the theme song and any time they used to mention Defender's of the Earth, James would stop Mason so he could edit in the theme song. What that has to do with it being edited into the show's theme song now, I couldn't tell you.
@@luckyspurs go RAWCollings youtube channel and find the video 'The Defenders of the Earth The Weekly Planet Animated' for a quick explanation. They just put it over the podcast theme as James felt the mention of butholes might put some people off, and stop them from listening to the podcast
I think my biggest problem with A+W: Our Quantums are Manic is that the entire movie's plot wouldn't have happened if Janet had at any point told her family "HEY, there's this scary multiverse ending madman trapped in there, maybe don't try to send messages into it." Seriously, did she and Hank Pym just not discuss anything about her time in the Quantum Realm for the who knows how long she's been back?
Yep. "This entire issue could have been prevented with a two minute discussion" is a painfully annoying thing in films when you spot it. See also; Holdo refusing to say the basic words "Trust me, I have a plan..." to Poe, for instance.
It all happens through convenience, and there are no new characters. It was Kang's movie but he didnt really get anything definitive for the character either.
People did not watch Loki and it showed with No Way Home and the stupid questions of how it’s plausible. MoM, Loki, No Way Home essentially serve as the Multiverse Trilogy and Quantamania just furthers that story
1:00:20 Haven't even seen the movie yet but that is one of the coldest lines I've ever heard and very accurately describes how a lot of the MCU humour feels to me. It's been said many times before, but it's like innocuous dialogue delivered with the rhythm of comedy to give you the feeling you're listening to a joke.
Michelle Pfeiffer is Janet Van Dyne, the previous Wasp. So this movie being called Ant-Man and the Wasp, and being focused more on Janet rather than Hope is still accurate.
Spoliers I think the implication is that all the Kangs had a multiversal war, lots of destruction, then The One Who Remains was the sole survivor, and kept the multiverse limited to one timeline. Once he died, the multiverse came back, and new Kangs were made. THEN one of these Kangs saw the end of the universe, saw the Beyonder destroying all of existence, then decided to conquer all realities to "save" it from the Beyonder. This sparked new multiversal conflicts, which led to him being Exiled.
I was under the impression One Who Remains just shielded his timeline from the ongoing multiverse, but his death reconnected his timeline to the wider verse, but could be wrong, haven't seen Loki in a while
@@trancedoutkid I'll never understand paying for youtube, just the thought alone makes my brain my hurt. I'm sure you've bought the blue twitter check mark and can't wait to pay for facebook also.
The head Kang from the post credits said that the outcast Kang was dead. But what if he was actually talking about He Who Remains (Immortus) from Loki season 1 finale, and the Kang from Quantumania is still alive?
I got the solution for the Kang problem! The upcoming MCU properties need a Kang counter, which goes down with every Kang killed, so that we know when things get interesting.
I'm always torn when a big movie (I'm interested in) comes out, and I haven't seen it before the latest episode of TWP drops. Usually I give it a like, and skip the review until later in the day (Theaters are cheaper on Monday here). I've had to do that for M3GAN, A Knock at the Door, and now this.
My takeaway was that this movie's Kang isnt truly trying to stop something awful from happening, but rather he's the one Kang who thought he was above the whole council of Kangs bullshit and wanted to go solo/rule the others. So the council banished him to the quantumrealm. But yeah, I dont fucking know. The real shit that needs explaining is how Incursions work. Doc Strange movie said that if you spend too much time in another universe it just fucks it up, but like, isnt that exactly what Kang does? Just hang out and take over other universes? Does he cause incursions? Does Loki cause incursions in his show from hanging out in other dimensions? Im too fucking stupid to understand these Marvel movies anymore.
Heres my theory: Kang the Conqueror IS the Kang from Loki, just him way down the timeline. In Loki he explicitly says that hes defeated the other Kangs and stopped the multiversal war... that is secret wars. Time is a loop, and He Who Remains said all of this basically. After what happens to Kang in Antman, hes gonna get stuck for a long "relative" (like a combo of ants) time in the probability storm, and will become well versed in killing versions of himself in there. All versions of Scott wanted the same goal, NOT the same with Kang. Then he comes out after X amount of time, presumably with time powers now and murders the fuck out of the Council of Kangs and unites all of their empires in the Prime Kang Dynasty.
I think all the Kangs believe they are stopping some bigger evil by eliminating everyone else's timelines. He who remains was the last winner, but ultimately that's just a title given to the guy who won this time.
Grant gustin said he’s been playing the flash for basically a decade and is ready to wrap up and move on. I definitely don’t think there’s a chance of him being the dcus flash. Maybe a cameo
You know, if you're just gonna try rebooting Hellboy (again)... just make Hellboy 3 already. The reboot bombed and made considerably less money than the two Hellboy movies people actually liked.
1:38:19 *I know how you feel. Yesterday my girl and I were laying in bed watching the latest law and order svu. In the end of it they were talking about Richard Belzer’s character. My girl told me that his character, Sgt Munch, was her favorite character, then asked me what Richard Belzer was up to. I told her jokingly I thought he was dead. Then an hour later I found out he actually just died.*
To cement Kang as a genuine Thanos-esque threat, one of Scott or Hope should have died, even if it was just Kang taking them out as he was stopped/sucked in. I enjoyed Quantumania, but my biggest criticism is that it tied up too happily; it needed that Empire Strikes Back moment to set Kang up as a really big bad.
@@paleo-bites-podcast yes, but he was also barely seen on screen until then, really. Just in snippets. Kang/HWR has had more prominence and so by this point I think he needs to feel much more genuinely dangerous, and killing a hero is a good shortcut to that.
I think the exiled Kang will either take the place of God Emperor Doom in Secret Wars or will become He Who Remains, or perhaps they will do both, or he is the one who restores the main universe from battleworld from another Kang. Just like with thanos, it's not as easy as good or evil. Thanos truly believed he was conducting a necessary evil for the greater good. I think it is the same with our exiled Kang He who remained was confident in his planning that if Sylvie and Loki killed him he would end up right back where he was, reincarnation style. It could be that, either through his own design or just "destiny" that one Kang will always rise to fill that spot he left.
Can you imagine a scene where Chidi from A Quiet Place has to read Michael Penas mind and ends up just passing out as we hear Michael Penas internal monologue? Missed opportunity for sure
@@Matt-xc6sp My favorite part was him trying to silently teach John Krasinski about philosophy, but Eleanor and Jason keep talking and putting them in danger.
I really think this version will return to become the main villain of the next two Avengers’ films. Or even the Dick Tracy sequel to find the Celestial Madonna. 🎵Back again like a Boomerkang…🎵
Avengers: Secret Wars is likely based off the modern Secret Wars by Jonathan Hickman. The fact incursions have been mentioned in Quantumania and Multiverse of Madness supports this.
The biggest thing holding Quantumania back is that it's completely inconsequential. There's a single villain that's soundly defeated by the end. Everyone is back in the same place they were when the film began. And you can't even say there was a completed character arch in this story.
Soundly defeated? They telegraphed "The End..?" incredibly hard. And Modok counts! This was a great version of him and I will be disappointed if its the last time we see him.
It's always been somewhat of an issue with the MCU where villains are like baddie of the week, I think it was less prevalent before cause it actually felt like it was building up the characters, but now it just feels like pointless fluff where the characters come out identical to before the movie started, and the characters in the movie don't seem to take anything seriously either, making everything REALLY feel like a pointless waste of time because you can't enjoy the movie for itself, bc the sense of humor comes across like corporate executive/focus tested dialogue that you can only describe with 'cringe'.
I wish they would just recast Joker with John Travolta. Then we could FINALLY get a good interpretation of the character on screen. For the first time.
Nah, I had a good time. Funnier than the others yet had dead serious villain. I can see it violated Antman as the cutesy guy who we get to see small things big, because quanta is beyond our scope of understanding (Cassie's "we're mapping the Quantum Realm!" makes as much sense as the Webb Telescope mapping the entire multiverse). But it also followed basic movie series rules of not repeating the same schtick with the same character and story.
Haven't seen the movie, but I'll still tell you that it feels like marvel (it's Disney though) are resting on their laurels with these post endgame productions. The mcu of the 2020's reeks of corporate hubris; Feige is sprinting around trying to lend his vision to people who've been told to press forward regardless of anything, meanwhile a bunch of Harvard mba doofus' get red in the face imagining all the easy nerdmoney they're gonna make putting in zero thought or effort into their most well known ip. The mcu is a house Feige and Downey Jr. built, yet neither seem to be primary voices in anything they've released since endgame (except for Loki, which for my money is easily the best piece of cinematic marvel content released since endgame, and is palpably connected in spirit to what came before, unlike whatever the fuck this new mess is). Until the suits realise that the mcu succeeded due to love and care and not whatever their professor told them was foundational for consumerism and their wife's boyfriends happiness, this is a ship doomed for nothing more than pitiful remembrance and the collection of increasingly diminutive sadbucks, which is actually a concept closely tied to the original working title of the third feature star wars production, "Blue Harvest", a subtle remark on capitalism's innate enemy, capitalism but not american.
Kang Predictions: The Kangs are planning to collapse the multiverse into a single world they can rule over as a single combined being. I think they're adapting the mid 2010's version of Secret Wars, and Kang is taking Doom's role as the "savior-god" of the combine Battleworld.
Scott Atkins Diet is BIG MAN and has Big Martial Arts, damn horrible filmography but creamy smooth kickbuttery, I LIKE THAT! Also, Michelle Pfeiffer was the original Wasp, so the title still works!
What is sadder: the relentless onslaught of time's destruction of all physical matter, or me saying westworld without James to back me up (It's neither; Mason lacks a nonsensical catchphrase. I am crying).
I havent been keeping up, I know they always joked about not liking "shooting up your butthole" part of the open and wanting to remove it, but now... "He's gone hasn't he? He talked for so long about leaving. I didn't think he'd really do it."
I’m gonna wait for Quantumania to stream on Disney+ without a pay wall because it’ll probably happen around the same time as Loki series 2 and will be a nice appendix I love Paul Rudd and he’s perfect as Ant-Man but I suspect Loki series 2 will be better than this and therefore I won’t feel let down.
I was thinking will MBJ play his son who is older now, but Jaden Smith was his son in that movie? So does Will not want Jaden to reprise his own real life role? If so then Will strikes again
Marvel superfans please forgive me But in quantumania is the council of kangs exiled kang to quantum realm because it's outside of time is there only one quantum realm or does every universe/timeline have a quantum realm
After 31 films, this is the first MCU movie have to say I didn't really like. I've been generous to most of Phase 4, but this Quantumania really felt like it needed a few more rewrites. Kang was cool though. Legit got hyped whenever Jonathan Majors was on screen.
No hope for Hellboy. Guillermo Del Toro made the best ones. Studios missed out on his talent. Imagine if he made Pacific Rim 2 and Hellboy 3. Studio's just messed up.
I went with my family and we burst out laughing a lot. BUT OMG They should have brought in Louis and Agent Woo!!!! the movie would have been 100x better
Enh. I thought it had fewer but better jokes than the others. I had a good time. I wish Modok came back. This version was hilarious. Don't understand anyone going "Bad cgi!" at something that is so obviously a joke look.
Other RUclipsrs: **make hour long rant videos about how every new mcu movie is the worst thing ever and the death of cinema** James & Maso: "Yeah it was fine." Love these guys.
Frankly, the compositing on Ezra Miller's face and costume in the trailer is so terrible it would be easy to replace him with another actor. The TV Flash is a variant character and we have already seen him in trailers. Who knows what Gunn wants, I'm totally sceptical about his plans.
Mason struggling to keep track of just the two Kangs we've seen so far is a good indication of how normal audiences will react when there's infinite Kangs to fight.
@@conormurphy4328 Isn't that becoming the literal definition of villain of the week though.
Mason didn’t lose track at all, his recap of the Kangs thus far was spot on! But they had a lot of questions about what happens next, which Kang is going to be THE Kang, was this Kang pure evil? I agree that it may get very messy and confusing to general audiences. I genuinely don’t know how they are going to tackle this.
@@luckyspurs the strength and threat of Kang comes in his infinite variations who would all have a grudge with the 616 avengers
@@conormurphy4328 Kang the Conqueror will be back i'm sure
I could hear the elderly couple behind me get confused about the smart ants.
When Hank came back with the ants at the end my wife turned to me and whispers "grandpa Hank's giant smarty-pants ants" 🤣
😅🤣😂
Your wife has an excellent sense of humor.
I turned to my brother and was like "I suppose this is why they first called Hank Ant Man"
Batman was using entire populations of bats to make a sonar map, typical hipster doing it before it was cool.
I want to see more thematically appropriate bugs. Let's have Spiderman train an army of tarantulas.
Wait, so they eventually start discussing the film?
You married well
1:04:27 "Kang's Lair BnB" was a fantastic joke and it's frankly insulting that we as a society have not stopped to acknowledge this
As a funny man who knows big good jokes, I can confirm that "Joker Face" is indeed a big and good joke.
I’ve been fatigued by the MCU for a while and was expecting this movie to be bad and just didn’t think it was and I’m not sure why. Cassie isn’t like Cassie, the Ant-Man powers don’t work like the past movies, it’s not very funny, and Hope and Janet don’t do anything but for some reason those criticisms don’t affect me much. I just liked it
Hank Pym is my favourite character now! Loved him in the what if episode, loved him in the ANT-MAN promotion from nine years ago and now i love him as an absolute mad lad
i'm sorry that was _nine years ago?_
@@cluckendip i guess it was only 7 years ago idk where i got 9 from
@@Star_Wars_With_PercyMan nah i'm just surprised at thow time flies
I miss watching these on RUclips, I remember years ago, literally over half a decade now actually lol when I discovered these fellas, I was going through an opiate addiction (and it's subsequent recovery, there's a happy ending lol) and there was nothing better than being unemployed, getting high in the sunshine through my basement window as I hid in my damp dark domain lololol, and blissfully drifted off listening to these 2 aussy weirdos lol
Luckily enough, during my cold turkey recovery, these 2 were one of the only pods I could listen to that would bring me peace. The upbeat positivity and genuine good souls of these two was just a beautiful thing that doesn't exist in too many places.
I listen on Big Sandwich these days but miss tuning in here, there's a nostalgia to it. So here i am for old times sake lol grab that pill..I mean...gem...grab that gem folks! ✌️ ☯️
I hope things are going great for you. I was in a similar situation.... I am now a practicing Methadonian.... I hope to ween off by the end of the year. But to be honest, just staying out of trouble is the primary objective this year.
Congrats on your recovery. It is not easy, so really, big ups to you... 😊🐻
I can't wait to see Joaquin do a big Joker rap.
I'm pumped for this & I was very against a sequel.
Will he finish with "It's Joking Time!"?
Do you wanna hear a joke? As I take this toke.
Gonna make Batman croak when I send two shots to his throat.
Some shit like that😂
"My name is Joker and I'm here to say: I fell in a vat of acid yesterday"
@@judeconnor-macintyre9874 👏🏻
27:27 this flash riff was amazingly accurate to the show😂
I think the comment about critics reaching their breaking point was spot on. I desperately want to avoid DCEU style 'critics are bias' talk, but with this entire phase, there has been a critcal feeling of 'oh, we don't have to be nice to these anymore.' It reminds me of the Michale Bay Transformers' films where the reviews quickly became less about appraising the film and more just airing grievances and bemoaning the 'state of things.'
32:15 that’s exactly what I said! It’s the best Marvel poster in a veryyy long time, no big faces, no random splashes of BS, it’s art and it looks good
It seems like the teaser posters are always better than the official ones for some reason. Imma guess the next one is gonna be exactly like the rest
All the intense speculation about Kang is so funny in retrospect.
The Victor Timely guy is the Quantum realm Kang. He's also the Kang statue at the end of Loki. He's stepped in to control the TVA since Sylvie killed Hehoo Remaynes. And time dilation.
I want another Ron Perlman Hellboy movie! We haven't concluded _his_ story, doggone it! How will Liz suffer the most of all?
“His lair BnB.” Under-appreciated by James, I feel.
I was having a right good time with Quantumania myself. Sorry y’all seem to not have had the best time. I was having some chuckles, loved the 60s sci fi vibes and pulpyness. I loved MODOK’s little butt. Just a good time I had.
im upset that modok died not gonna lie. wish he coulda stuck around a bit more.
@@noealva Fun fact: He woke up a few hours later, "Hey. I'm not dead. And I'm not a dick. Ha."
@@noealva I dont think he died tbh. at this point if the character doesn't have a funeral I dont think they are dead.
Yeah the movie wasnt bad, solid 7/10. I thought MODOK was funny and enjoyed him on screen.
@@thedarkemissary lol i kinda do hope this happens. I kept an eye on his heart rate monitor as he died hoping it wouldnt flatline but it looks like he did.
Hellboy grows to an adult extremely fast and then is long lived. He should be an adult in Crooked Man
Ahhh the one I’ve been waiting for, I was forced to rewatch the Shrek 3 video just to keep me going until this comes along 😂
DC 100% had the conversation with Grant Gustin when Phase 4 integrated series into the MCU. If it was a year ago when they were still trying to play catch up this would be happening.
I really like Ant-Man. Really enjoyed it. I don't see what the problem is that critics seem to have but I tend not to listen to critics anyway. They are after all just people with opinions.
Have you guys read “Kang: only myself left to conquer”? Great comic, maybe the best kang story ever told
I liked Quantumania more than most of Phase 4. I think James is right on the money that this got the low rating on RT because it was one mediocre marvel movie too many. The goodwill has dried up and the critics are no longer giving them the benefit of the doubt. Swap the release dates of this with Love and Thunder and you'd likely swap the critical response as well.
Man we did not deserve Jonathan Majors but we got him anyway
I feel bad that I only know Jonathan Majors from the Johnnie Walker advert now.
In which you can tell he has charisma.
Absolutely. DoubleToasted said that Kang was a defibrillator for this movie and I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Well this has aged like milk lmao.
fun fact: “Schweppervescence” was a word made up by AZ on Nas’ song “Life’s a Bitch” and, if I remember correctly, refers to the simplicity of life in the ghetto.
Quite right, but have you heard that Vigo Mortensen broke his foot for real in Lotr?
🤣👌
Maybe the real Council of Kangs are the friends we made along the way
You guys have the best version of Marvel critiques. Pls never stop
Actual dialogue, fair criticism and nuance. All this and they’re still funny. Shame that these qualities are becoming so rare on RUclips.
I guess you missed the part where they literally say they agree with EVERY criticism they have read and heard about the movie. They don’t think any better of the movie than anyone else. They simply aren’t invested in hammering the criticism in. That’s all. They didn’t say anything new and the share the same opinions as everyone else. The movie is bad. And most people don’t need someone to talk softly about how bad it is for them to accept it’s bad.
Having worked at the cinema, hearing "Yell at the teenage projectionist" had me LOL! I was the teenager cleaning up after the movie, the projectionist was a PROFESSIONAL in a TRADE UNION who slotted in just under the CEO of the theater chain...wouldn't be surprised if he had been granted the power of flight on account of his elevated status.
James' breakdown of Australian wildlife was incredible, more of that please
- Now I have to try to explain a 3+ year old running joke built into the theme song, when I try to promote you guys to friends. 🤦♂️
What's the joke?
As someone who started listening weekly in 2021.
@@luckyspurs As someone who's listened to almost every episode, I'm pretty sure it's just that James loves the theme song and any time they used to mention Defender's of the Earth, James would stop Mason so he could edit in the theme song. What that has to do with it being edited into the show's theme song now, I couldn't tell you.
DEFENDERS!
It also used to be very loud. I would jump every time it started in the early days
@@luckyspurs go RAWCollings youtube channel and find the video 'The Defenders of the Earth The Weekly Planet Animated' for a quick explanation. They just put it over the podcast theme as James felt the mention of butholes might put some people off, and stop them from listening to the podcast
I think my biggest problem with A+W: Our Quantums are Manic is that the entire movie's plot wouldn't have happened if Janet had at any point told her family "HEY, there's this scary multiverse ending madman trapped in there, maybe don't try to send messages into it."
Seriously, did she and Hank Pym just not discuss anything about her time in the Quantum Realm for the who knows how long she's been back?
I guess they aren't big on small talk.
Yep. "This entire issue could have been prevented with a two minute discussion" is a painfully annoying thing in films when you spot it. See also; Holdo refusing to say the basic words "Trust me, I have a plan..." to Poe, for instance.
It all happens through convenience, and there are no new characters. It was Kang's movie but he didnt really get anything definitive for the character either.
I think the point was to highlight Kang's character and motivations while setting up Antman's daughter as a Disney+ character.
It’s the sticky note conflict again. So many movies still do this and it’s so irritating.
So glad the defenders of the earth are here defending and I totally get that reference and totally love it
People did not watch Loki and it showed with No Way Home and the stupid questions of how it’s plausible. MoM, Loki, No Way Home essentially serve as the Multiverse Trilogy and Quantamania just furthers that story
The discussion as to whether Kang is less or more evil that He Who Remains made me laugh.
1:00:20 Haven't even seen the movie yet but that is one of the coldest lines I've ever heard and very accurately describes how a lot of the MCU humour feels to me. It's been said many times before, but it's like innocuous dialogue delivered with the rhythm of comedy to give you the feeling you're listening to a joke.
That new Hellboy sounds like a perfect time for Rodney's cinematic return
Michelle Pfeiffer is Janet Van Dyne, the previous Wasp. So this movie being called Ant-Man and the Wasp, and being focused more on Janet rather than Hope is still accurate.
Spoliers
I think the implication is that all the Kangs had a multiversal war, lots of destruction, then The One Who Remains was the sole survivor, and kept the multiverse limited to one timeline. Once he died, the multiverse came back, and new Kangs were made.
THEN one of these Kangs saw the end of the universe, saw the Beyonder destroying all of existence, then decided to conquer all realities to "save" it from the Beyonder. This sparked new multiversal conflicts, which led to him being Exiled.
I was under the impression One Who Remains just shielded his timeline from the ongoing multiverse, but his death reconnected his timeline to the wider verse, but could be wrong, haven't seen Loki in a while
Came for the comic book movie banter
Stayed for the Kieren Perkins jokes.
(NB I have no idea who Kieren Perkins actually is)
Man this is the only channel where I'm like checking constantly for uploads. I'm literally never early to any other channel on this whole damn app
Ewwww...... using the YT app, what's wrong with you? Don't you want your internet experience to be add free?
@@tappajavittu RUclips Premium exists.
@@calebmurphy9406 So do adblockers.
@@tappajavittu most definitely. That's why I have premium.
@@trancedoutkid I'll never understand paying for youtube, just the thought alone makes my brain my hurt. I'm sure you've bought the blue twitter check mark and can't wait to pay for facebook also.
The head Kang from the post credits said that the outcast Kang was dead. But what if he was actually talking about He Who Remains (Immortus) from Loki season 1 finale, and the Kang from Quantumania is still alive?
I got the solution for the Kang problem! The upcoming MCU properties need a Kang counter, which goes down with every Kang killed, so that we know when things get interesting.
I'm always torn when a big movie (I'm interested in) comes out, and I haven't seen it before the latest episode of TWP drops. Usually I give it a like, and skip the review until later in the day (Theaters are cheaper on Monday here). I've had to do that for M3GAN, A Knock at the Door, and now this.
Is _A Knock at the Door_ anything like _Knock at the Cabin_ ?
We got a $6 Saturday morning showing here that I need to use more.
23:05 im happy to say i understood that WIN community tv reference
My takeaway was that this movie's Kang isnt truly trying to stop something awful from happening, but rather he's the one Kang who thought he was above the whole council of Kangs bullshit and wanted to go solo/rule the others. So the council banished him to the quantumrealm. But yeah, I dont fucking know.
The real shit that needs explaining is how Incursions work. Doc Strange movie said that if you spend too much time in another universe it just fucks it up, but like, isnt that exactly what Kang does? Just hang out and take over other universes? Does he cause incursions? Does Loki cause incursions in his show from hanging out in other dimensions? Im too fucking stupid to understand these Marvel movies anymore.
Heres my theory: Kang the Conqueror IS the Kang from Loki, just him way down the timeline. In Loki he explicitly says that hes defeated the other Kangs and stopped the multiversal war... that is secret wars. Time is a loop, and He Who Remains said all of this basically.
After what happens to Kang in Antman, hes gonna get stuck for a long "relative" (like a combo of ants) time in the probability storm, and will become well versed in killing versions of himself in there. All versions of Scott wanted the same goal, NOT the same with Kang. Then he comes out after X amount of time, presumably with time powers now and murders the fuck out of the Council of Kangs and unites all of their empires in the Prime Kang Dynasty.
He couldn't even figure out how to shrink his power core or build another one.
Everytime Pinocchio is mentioned I get a good laugh tbh I will never forget Mason’s utter disappointment that James skipped it
There’s no such thing as “too medium” of a gun Mr. Wick, please! Time is of the essence! 😭😭😭 omg I’m dyin that was so great
I think all the Kangs believe they are stopping some bigger evil by eliminating everyone else's timelines. He who remains was the last winner, but ultimately that's just a title given to the guy who won this time.
Grant gustin said he’s been playing the flash for basically a decade and is ready to wrap up and move on. I definitely don’t think there’s a chance of him being the dcus flash. Maybe a cameo
1:41:12 if you have a bunch of daddy long legs? 😅 Do Aussie’s keep them on the ready? Or as pets? 😂
You know, if you're just gonna try rebooting Hellboy (again)... just make Hellboy 3 already. The reboot bombed and made considerably less money than the two Hellboy movies people actually liked.
1:38:19 *I know how you feel. Yesterday my girl and I were laying in bed watching the latest law and order svu. In the end of it they were talking about Richard Belzer’s character. My girl told me that his character, Sgt Munch, was her favorite character, then asked me what Richard Belzer was up to. I told her jokingly I thought he was dead. Then an hour later I found out he actually just died.*
To cement Kang as a genuine Thanos-esque threat, one of Scott or Hope should have died, even if it was just Kang taking them out as he was stopped/sucked in. I enjoyed Quantumania, but my biggest criticism is that it tied up too happily; it needed that Empire Strikes Back moment to set Kang up as a really big bad.
Thanos didn't do any of that until he took center stage in Infinity War.
@@paleo-bites-podcast yes, but he was also barely seen on screen until then, really. Just in snippets. Kang/HWR has had more prominence and so by this point I think he needs to feel much more genuinely dangerous, and killing a hero is a good shortcut to that.
Defenders bit still laugh-out-loud funny. Will update again next week.
Happy Monday lads as always, a nice way to start the week💯.
I think the exiled Kang will either take the place of God Emperor Doom in Secret Wars or will become He Who Remains, or perhaps they will do both, or he is the one who restores the main universe from battleworld from another Kang.
Just like with thanos, it's not as easy as good or evil. Thanos truly believed he was conducting a necessary evil for the greater good. I think it is the same with our exiled Kang
He who remained was confident in his planning that if Sylvie and Loki killed him he would end up right back where he was, reincarnation style. It could be that, either through his own design or just "destiny" that one Kang will always rise to fill that spot he left.
Had to check out the Chris Franklin song. So Australian and so good.
As a kid that grew up in Australia in the 90's, I can confirm that every cool kid walked around in a pair of Water Perkins.
Can you imagine a scene where Chidi from A Quiet Place has to read Michael Penas mind and ends up just passing out as we hear Michael Penas internal monologue? Missed opportunity for sure
Who from A Quiet Place?
@@thelastsith2706 Chidi. You don’t remember him and Ted Danson try to get away from the big sound monsters?
@@Matt-xc6sp My favorite part was him trying to silently teach John Krasinski about philosophy, but Eleanor and Jason keep talking and putting them in danger.
@@qwertyferix my favourite bit was when Emily Blunt finally worked it out: “This is the *loud* place!”
I love listening to you guys. I’ve learned a lot.
I really think this version will return to become the main villain of the next two Avengers’ films. Or even the Dick Tracy sequel to find the Celestial Madonna. 🎵Back again like a Boomerkang…🎵
1:03:07 I've never laughed this hard in my life 😂
It’s 1:04:21 that did it for me.
You forgot your one bit of news, Mason! 😂
Avengers: Secret Wars is likely based off the modern Secret Wars by Jonathan Hickman. The fact incursions have been mentioned in Quantumania and Multiverse of Madness supports this.
28:15 Will Smith's real name is Willard, not William... mind-blowing right?
The biggest thing holding Quantumania back is that it's completely inconsequential. There's a single villain that's soundly defeated by the end. Everyone is back in the same place they were when the film began. And you can't even say there was a completed character arch in this story.
Soundly defeated? They telegraphed "The End..?" incredibly hard.
And Modok counts! This was a great version of him and I will be disappointed if its the last time we see him.
It's always been somewhat of an issue with the MCU where villains are like baddie of the week, I think it was less prevalent before cause it actually felt like it was building up the characters, but now it just feels like pointless fluff where the characters come out identical to before the movie started, and the characters in the movie don't seem to take anything seriously either, making everything REALLY feel like a pointless waste of time because you can't enjoy the movie for itself, bc the sense of humor comes across like corporate executive/focus tested dialogue that you can only describe with 'cringe'.
I thought this Kang was the younger version of the “he who remains” like him on his earlier travels
The thing with the Kang's is that none of them are trustworthy. We've never gotten an unbiased accounting of the events.
Am I the only one who loved David Harbour’s Hellboy?! That was an awesome movie
I wish they would just recast Joker with John Travolta. Then we could FINALLY get a good interpretation of the character on screen. For the first time.
The summary of Flash episodes is perfect
Can someone help me? I thoroughly enjoyed Quantumania. and I feel as if I'm going insane. Thanks
You very well might be.
Nah your not a lot of people love it
Nah, I had a good time. Funnier than the others yet had dead serious villain. I can see it violated Antman as the cutesy guy who we get to see small things big, because quanta is beyond our scope of understanding (Cassie's "we're mapping the Quantum Realm!" makes as much sense as the Webb Telescope mapping the entire multiverse). But it also followed basic movie series rules of not repeating the same schtick with the same character and story.
Love your work guys
Petition to add Rodney the dog to the next Rodney supercut
Only thing I'm looking forward to is Kang coming back and obliterating everyone and the other Kangs running in fear.
Haven't seen the movie, but I'll still tell you that it feels like marvel (it's Disney though) are resting on their laurels with these post endgame productions. The mcu of the 2020's reeks of corporate hubris; Feige is sprinting around trying to lend his vision to people who've been told to press forward regardless of anything, meanwhile a bunch of Harvard mba doofus' get red in the face imagining all the easy nerdmoney they're gonna make putting in zero thought or effort into their most well known ip. The mcu is a house Feige and Downey Jr. built, yet neither seem to be primary voices in anything they've released since endgame (except for Loki, which for my money is easily the best piece of cinematic marvel content released since endgame, and is palpably connected in spirit to what came before, unlike whatever the fuck this new mess is).
Until the suits realise that the mcu succeeded due to love and care and not whatever their professor told them was foundational for consumerism and their wife's boyfriends happiness, this is a ship doomed for nothing more than pitiful remembrance and the collection of increasingly diminutive sadbucks, which is actually a concept closely tied to the original working title of the third feature star wars production, "Blue Harvest", a subtle remark on capitalism's innate enemy, capitalism but not american.
Perfeito 🙏💞
Kang Predictions: The Kangs are planning to collapse the multiverse into a single world they can rule over as a single combined being. I think they're adapting the mid 2010's version of Secret Wars, and Kang is taking Doom's role as the "savior-god" of the combine Battleworld.
Scott Atkins Diet is BIG MAN and has Big Martial Arts, damn horrible filmography but creamy smooth kickbuttery, I LIKE THAT!
Also, Michelle Pfeiffer was the original Wasp, so the title still works!
What is sadder: the relentless onslaught of time's destruction of all physical matter, or me saying westworld without James to back me up (It's neither; Mason lacks a nonsensical catchphrase. I am crying).
John Wick fought NBA player Boban and beat him with a book. Big strong man.
John can teach a lot when it comes to self defense. No one would ever expect a book or a pencil.
I havent been keeping up, I know they always joked about not liking "shooting up your butthole" part of the open and wanting to remove it, but now... "He's gone hasn't he? He talked for so long about leaving. I didn't think he'd really do it."
After he forgot to do it at least two years in a row, declaring he'll do it for the first episode next year I legit assumed he'd forget forever :)
I am so pissed off that James altered the theme song. I miss that "shootin' up your butthole" part. It always made me smile.
Pineapple Kang wants to know who's down for a Kang-bang.
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Gunna be that guy, John Wick gets thrown around by (genuine NBA sweetheart) Boban Marjanovich.
Dudes like 90ft tall.
I’m gonna wait for Quantumania to stream on Disney+ without a pay wall because it’ll probably happen around the same time as Loki series 2 and will be a nice appendix I love Paul Rudd and he’s perfect as Ant-Man but I suspect Loki series 2 will be better than this and therefore I won’t feel let down.
Can we make it a recurring joke that he is called He Who Rekangs or the Kang Who Remains? 👉👈🥺
I was thinking will MBJ play his son who is older now, but Jaden Smith was his son in that movie? So does Will not want Jaden to reprise his own real life role? If so then Will strikes again
Marvel superfans please forgive me
But in quantumania is the council of kangs exiled kang to quantum realm because it's outside of time is there only one quantum realm or does every universe/timeline have a quantum realm
Janet said there were world within worlds within worlds there. The section we saw feels like Hooville on a speck of flower pollen.
I genuinely hate it how my my brain set off alarms right as he mentioned "working title"
Pavlov was right
After 31 films, this is the first MCU movie have to say I didn't really like. I've been generous to most of Phase 4, but this Quantumania really felt like it needed a few more rewrites.
Kang was cool though. Legit got hyped whenever Jonathan Majors was on screen.
Can't Buy Me Love not to be confused with Love Don't Cost A Thing lol
No hope for Hellboy. Guillermo Del Toro made the best ones. Studios missed out on his talent. Imagine if he made Pacific Rim 2 and Hellboy 3. Studio's just messed up.
I went with my family and we burst out laughing a lot. BUT OMG They should have brought in Louis and Agent Woo!!!! the movie would have been 100x better
2023 is the year of the theme song changing. I remember.
Enh. I thought it had fewer but better jokes than the others. I had a good time. I wish Modok came back. This version was hilarious. Don't understand anyone going "Bad cgi!" at something that is so obviously a joke look.
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John Wick 4: 2 Fast 2 Medium
Love that the Swedish guy didn't mention his podcast in the letter.
Other RUclipsrs: **make hour long rant videos about how every new mcu movie is the worst thing ever and the death of cinema**
James & Maso: "Yeah it was fine."
Love these guys.
Frankly, the compositing on Ezra Miller's face and costume in the trailer is so terrible it would be easy to replace him with another actor. The TV Flash is a variant character and we have already seen him in trailers. Who knows what Gunn wants, I'm totally sceptical about his plans.