Brinkley is setting the new standard for the RV industry. I have become a Brinkley evangelist and have no problem promoting their brand every time I hear a RV horror story like yours. I hope to be able to purchase one later this year God willing. To me Brinkley personifies made in America.
You’re spot on with that comment ! I’ve said the same thing to some of these full time RUclips/influencers whom are bragging the Brinkley. Well I’ve said to them look at grand design and alliance with all the frame issues, water leaks and slide out issues and the crappy support. My point to them is in time Brinkley will be no better. Sounds pessimistic buts happened time and again.@@TonyBenton0728
They will not be bought out. I asked this question to all the owners this past week and they all said no. They plan to keep this company private and not even entertain a buyout. I believe them, they want to build a strong company with the highest quality products and most importantly a company that puts the customer and their employees first.
Well, I feel this group of owners have already set a new path and don't believe they will fall into the same trapings the other have. Yes, time will tell, but I have a good feeling this is the beginning of new RV company model.
So here we are 6 months later from this video. With that said, when is Brinkley going to stop using lag screws and start using carriage bolts like Riverstone to secure their walls to the upper deck mainframe? I did send Nate a message, which he responded to and suggested that use carriage bolts instead of doing the same thing Grand Design is doing. I wonder how long that will take, if they do it at all. Maybe they can cut into a tiny bit of their profit to build a better RV instead of doing the same thing that everyone else does in Indiana. I was glad to hear from Nate that they do offer the MORryde independent suspension/disc brakes. As we all know right now, so many consumers do not trust anything coming out of Indiana and especially with concerns about the workforce (some being questionable) going from one assembly company to the next. Also, given that Nate was the architect and product manager for the Solitude and Reflection models when he was at Grand Design and there are a ton of problems with those model years, when he was still there, it does make me leary of what to expect from Brinkley. Who knows, maybe Don Clark over road their recommendations and they wanted to jump ship. I do know that 2 main RV designers/architects, the CFO, COO, Head of HR, Account manager, Quality Manager and several others left Grand Design for Brinkley. -Pete West (@GrandDesignRVMajorIssues, Facebook)
EXCELLENT VIDEO! We have watched since your mishap with your first toy hauler. I have one request, please do something with the volume of your videos. I have to turn the tv volume up as high as it will go and sometimes still cannot hear you.
Yes, I'm trying to figure this out. Others have no problem while a few hae issues. Are you always watching from your TV? if yes, what are you streaming through?
Great video Geoff! It’s awesome that Nate took the time to help make it happen. Love what Brinkley is doing. Do you happen to know if they will be offering a full body paint option in the future?
I agree with your statement that walking inside a Brinkley and seeing the difference firsthand is the best way to decide. I personally stepped into the G3500, and within minutes, I knew that I had found my new home. I told my salesman not to bother showing me anything else as there's no need. Placed my order, then took the factory tour, which was great on many levels. Now waiting to take delivery end of January. #0482 G3500.
Now we are hearing from an rv manufscture talking smart about how they manufacture! When a manufacture and vendor work together the rv mfg is in charge of what they want built! Any failures in anything in any rv should be honored by the rv mfg and they go back to their vendor to iron out any issues! Rv manufacturers as a whole have not done this! Warranty claims should drive engineering in design issues and failure of bought components like water heaters, microwaves, stoves, furniture etc should also be guided by warranty claims. That is the only way to improve a product. and it drives vendors to improve their products! Anything manufactured thing that moves around like an rv will have issues but Warranty Claims and customer imput will actually lead to success if the manufacture reads and listens!! Brinkley is on the right track!! Kudos!!!
There's gotta be a way for y'all to get into a Brinkley. You're such a great spokesperson for them and it shows how much you believe in their product and processes.
Valparaiso IN native, Ive been around rv’s my entire life!!! Worked for rv manufacturers.. the philosophy was get it out the door, it’ll be the consumers issue. Y’all bar none starting with the chassis up.. not Hurd off in this industry…. Grand design momentum fifth wheels. Have had and still have major upper deck frame issues.. if base is isn’t strong, rest of build will be a waste.. you guys are literally killin’ the rv game…. Clownin’ every other manufacturer…. Hats off !!
Geoff I’m overjoyed you got a Brinkley. They, just like Apple, are top notch in customer service. iPhone haters about but my primary requirement for a product is a domestic customer service base staffed by English speaking Americans not overseas call centers that suck money from our economy. I probably wouldn’t be ranting about this but we just moved house, and I spent about an hour on the phone trying to get support from att internet. I finally got some guy who I literally could not understand. We love Apple support, T-Mobile support and of course Brinkley support (never needed it, tbh, that’s based on owner comments in the Facebook group and the several owners here with channels.
Ordered and now Picking up the G3950 very soon.. trading in our 2022 fuel 287 .. oh my this is what love feels like …. My Harley will have a new home …. Fancy A’F pinky’s out when sippin’ Bourbon 🥃 🤣🤣🤣….
Good info. We’re waiting to hear if our frame can be repaired or not. If not, we may see a Brinkley in our future because we are those consumers he was talking about that keep their rig for 10 plus years!
Great video Geoff, hopefully you got out of that other brand you had so much trouble with and got into a Brinkley . Oh and I'm an Android user....lol, but I get it.
@@MyBucketListDay there's a third party place in Elkhart that can fix your rig, do it right and you'll never mess with it again. I cannot remember their name at the moment and I remember commenting to someone their name. I'll see if I can find them and share.
All good things to hear, however, with such a short manufacturing history time will tell. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Brinkley is already dealing with a recall of the very model you were talking about in this video. Apparently undersized wiring was used during installation of the power control unit.
The model we were in was the G3950, none has shipped yet, this was a prototype RV right now. Expected delivery is late spring 2024. So no recalls on this one.
An undersized wire may overheat, increasing the fire risk. Brinkley RV is recalling certain 2024 Brinkley RV Model G fifth wheel toy haulers. Oct 9, 2023 Government Releases Weekly Recall List - RV News
Several things they should be looking at to really differentiate from most out there. Get rid of the crappy, loud, inefficient AC units and install residential Mini-Splits (heat pumps) like New Horizon and Spacecraft do... bonus is 3 less holes in the roof and more room for large solar systems. Use a drop frame up front to gain a ton of storage. Offer units will 10guage or higher solar wires (2 complete sets minimum) from the roof down, but do not install any solar equipment. (The stuff they offer is low end, custom users are all going Victron or Magnum) Offer Independent suspension. Full Body Paint...these are all just Gel Coat and stickers (in 5 yrs they will have faded and cracked stickers and the gel coat will be powdery)! Gen-Y on other models (non Toy Hauler). Better slide mechanisms...use hydraulic or high end electric slides everywhere.
@@MyBucketListDayNew Horizons, and Spacecraft. LUXE offer most bit not Mini-split. DRV if through Alisha at Rolling Retreats qill do quite a few...less Mini-split unfortunately. We boondock around 80% of the time and so the Mini-split is important for us...I installed my own and it is a game changer.
I totally agree the mini split is the way to go, but sometimes not practical on some models without major modifications. I also agree a mini split designed in the manufacturing would be a great benifit like spacecraft does. I'm going to ask the powers to be at Brinkley if this has ever been considered.@@dankarau2307
Their walls are thicker than almost all other rigs with R11 insulation. I dont know of any mass production coach having wrapped water lines. Their baggage doors are also thicker
Redwoods have 2.5 walls. Riverstone have 3.0 walls, luxe have 3.0 walls, new horizon has 3.5 walls. Wrapping the water lines would help with the water not freezing in low temps.
I would want to compare this to an iPhone either and also your interview is very difficult to listen to Al. That was a great interview, but the background noise was ridiculous.
Please let us know if any updates with grand design and your frame. Wish you all the best with whatever you decide in the future lord knows if anyone deserves it it is you.
We have a Grand Design I can't break! It's a 24mpr Imagine toy hauler with a 10' garage...It's short and impossible to bend, it's not Titanium, it's Mike Tyson. So like all the other good ideas Grand Design comes up with, they stop making them.
Please don't compare them to Iphones. Iphones are nothing special, they have been forced to refund billions for false claims about their products...their so called security can be broken by a high school computer buff and my wife will attest that their security is no better than an android ( she administered 100 cell phones as part of her job with a major credit union. I do agree after checking their units out in person that IMHO they are the best constructed on the market available from mass producers. Our next will be a Brinkley once they inrtoduce a couples travel trailer.
They do have a couples trailer, it's called the Z Air 285. Its not at the show, but does have the floorplan displayed next to the Z Air 295. So if your still at the show, go see it.
First, this post is full of misinformation re Apple phones. Apple’s class action suit applied to only certain models, not all of them. Second, Brinkley does make a trailer now. I’m glad Geoff found his joy again. We love our Brinkley.
I interpreted the "iphone" comparison statement more to the market setting of new trend / device. Regardless of liking an iPhone or not, the iphone & apple ecosystem have provided a path over 50% adopted...mainly for the innovative designs, quality, build detail, reliability and integration... And Iconic Brand man want to be associated with Owning. Similarily, Brinkley has introduced some designs and build techniques that have quickly proved and been recognized superior and innovative! A young company that's jumping ahead of established competition and these established companies are even coping some features. Brinkley in many ways... Has become the Leader to Follow and the Desired Iconic Brand to Tow & Own!
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Brinkley is setting the new standard for the RV industry. I have become a Brinkley evangelist and have no problem promoting their brand every time I hear a RV horror story like yours. I hope to be able to purchase one later this year God willing. To me Brinkley personifies made in America.
You’re spot on with that comment ! I’ve said the same thing to some of these full time RUclips/influencers whom are bragging the Brinkley. Well I’ve said to them look at grand design and alliance with all the frame issues, water leaks and slide out issues and the crappy support. My point to them is in time Brinkley will be no better. Sounds pessimistic buts happened time and again.@@TonyBenton0728
They will not be bought out. I asked this question to all the owners this past week and they all said no. They plan to keep this company private and not even entertain a buyout. I believe them, they want to build a strong company with the highest quality products and most importantly a company that puts the customer and their employees first.
Well, I feel this group of owners have already set a new path and don't believe they will fall into the same trapings the other have. Yes, time will tell, but I have a good feeling this is the beginning of new RV company model.
See my comment below.
@@MyBucketListDay 100% agree.
You're absolutely right. The goal of getting an RV is to travel and explore! Not be dealing with constant break downs and issues, lol
So here we are 6 months later from this video. With that said, when is Brinkley going to stop using lag screws and start using carriage bolts like Riverstone to secure their walls to the upper deck mainframe? I did send Nate a message, which he responded to and suggested that use carriage bolts instead of doing the same thing Grand Design is doing. I wonder how long that will take, if they do it at all. Maybe they can cut into a tiny bit of their profit to build a better RV instead of doing the same thing that everyone else does in Indiana. I was glad to hear from Nate that they do offer the MORryde independent suspension/disc brakes. As we all know right now, so many consumers do not trust anything coming out of Indiana and especially with concerns about the workforce (some being questionable) going from one assembly company to the next. Also, given that Nate was the architect and product manager for the Solitude and Reflection models when he was at Grand Design and there are a ton of problems with those model years, when he was still there, it does make me leary of what to expect from Brinkley. Who knows, maybe Don Clark over road their recommendations and they wanted to jump ship. I do know that 2 main RV designers/architects, the CFO, COO, Head of HR, Account manager, Quality Manager and several others left Grand Design for Brinkley. -Pete West (@GrandDesignRVMajorIssues, Facebook)
EXCELLENT VIDEO! We have watched since your mishap with your first toy hauler. I have one request, please do something with the volume of your videos. I have to turn the tv volume up as high as it will go and sometimes still cannot hear you.
Yes, I'm trying to figure this out. Others have no problem while a few hae issues. Are you always watching from your TV? if yes, what are you streaming through?
Great video Geoff! It’s awesome that Nate took the time to help make it happen. Love what Brinkley is doing. Do you happen to know if they will be offering a full body paint option in the future?
Not sure on the paint, I will ask!
@@MyBucketListDay yea I’ve heard some rumors but it looks like you have the inside scoop so I figured I’d ask you. Thanks!
I agree with your statement that walking inside a Brinkley and seeing the difference firsthand is the best way to decide. I personally stepped into the G3500, and within minutes, I knew that I had found my new home. I told my salesman not to bother showing me anything else as there's no need. Placed my order, then took the factory tour, which was great on many levels. Now waiting to take delivery end of January. #0482 G3500.
Thanks for sharing!!
Now we are hearing from an rv manufscture talking smart about how they manufacture! When a manufacture and vendor work together the rv mfg is in charge of what they want built! Any failures in anything in any rv should be honored by the rv mfg and they go back to their vendor to iron out any issues! Rv manufacturers as a whole have not done this! Warranty claims should drive engineering in design issues and failure of bought components like water heaters, microwaves, stoves, furniture etc should also be guided by warranty claims. That is the only way to improve a product. and it drives vendors to improve their products! Anything manufactured thing that moves around like an rv will have issues but Warranty Claims and customer imput will actually lead to success if the manufacture reads and listens!! Brinkley is on the right track!! Kudos!!!
Well said! So Kudos to you
There's gotta be a way for y'all to get into a Brinkley. You're such a great spokesperson for them and it shows how much you believe in their product and processes.
I agree, Hey Brinkley, Listen to this guy and hook us up! LOL
We pick up our Brinkley G 4000 on Thursday, 8 February 2024. It's a 4 hour trip to South Raleigh, NC (Benson) from Chesapeake, VA. We can't wait!
So happy for you. Send me pics of the new G4000. Thats the one I want...
Sorry I am in Hawaii for work. Plenty of good RUclips videos.
Hey Nate, please make a toy hauler that we can afford and tow with a 1 ton SRW truck with 3884# vehicle cargo.
They are a bit higher in price, but well worth it for what you get. As to the truck, I would recommend a Dually, but can be done with a SRW...
Hello Geoff, I really hope to see you in your Brinkley before summer starts.
Hey Patrick, Time will tell?
Valparaiso IN native, Ive been around rv’s my entire life!!! Worked for rv manufacturers.. the philosophy was get it out the door, it’ll be the consumers issue. Y’all bar none starting with the chassis up.. not Hurd off in this industry…. Grand design momentum fifth wheels. Have had and still have major upper deck frame issues.. if base is isn’t strong, rest of build will be a waste.. you guys are literally killin’ the rv game…. Clownin’ every other manufacturer…. Hats off !!
Thanks for your comments
I want a Brinkley so much it's crazy. Maybe 2024 will be the year.
Ok, just let me know when, I can help you...
Geoff I’m overjoyed you got a Brinkley. They, just like Apple, are top notch in customer service. iPhone haters about but my primary requirement for a product is a domestic customer service base staffed by English speaking Americans not overseas call centers that suck money from our economy. I probably wouldn’t be ranting about this but we just moved house, and I spent about an hour on the phone trying to get support from att internet. I finally got some guy who I literally could not understand. We love Apple support, T-Mobile support and of course Brinkley support (never needed it, tbh, that’s based on owner comments in the Facebook group and the several owners here with channels.
I did not buy a Brinkley yet. I have to get rid of my current disaster first.
Ordered and now Picking up the G3950 very soon.. trading in our 2022 fuel 287 .. oh my this is what love feels like …. My Harley will have a new home …. Fancy A’F pinky’s out when sippin’ Bourbon 🥃 🤣🤣🤣….
Awesome, so happy for you...
Very interesting and positive philosophy - time will tell how this brand does. Great to see quality as a priority!
Right, a breath of fresh air
Good info. We’re waiting to hear if our frame can be repaired or not. If not, we may see a Brinkley in our future because we are those consumers he was talking about that keep their rig for 10 plus years!
Keep me posted on your frame issues and if you do consider getting a Brinkley. I may be able to help you get something special.
Do they have simple Wall switches for the overhead lights.
I wish, but most have been replaced with the One Control system. Its horrible.
Great video Geoff, hopefully you got out of that other brand you had so much trouble with and got into a Brinkley .
Oh and I'm an Android user....lol, but I get it.
Sadly, I still have the junk one. Still dreaming of the Brinkley...
@@MyBucketListDay there's a third party place in Elkhart that can fix your rig, do it right and you'll never mess with it again. I cannot remember their name at the moment and I remember commenting to someone their name. I'll see if I can find them and share.
All good things to hear, however, with such a short manufacturing history time will tell.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe Brinkley is already dealing with a recall of the very model you were talking about in this video. Apparently undersized wiring was used during installation of the power control unit.
Yes a recall for an undersized wire to the control system on Z models and the brake recall on the Z series....but a Lippert issue not Brinkley
The model we were in was the G3950, none has shipped yet, this was a prototype RV right now. Expected delivery is late spring 2024. So no recalls on this one.
An undersized wire may overheat, increasing the fire risk. Brinkley RV is recalling certain 2024 Brinkley RV Model G fifth wheel toy haulers.
Oct 9, 2023
Government Releases Weekly Recall List - RV News
Great hype and marketing!!
Ok, but intent was to educate the difference and why they are a better option. Hope that came through.
@@MyBucketListDay I hear ya. Just not sure how that can be finalized so soon.
Great video, thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Several things they should be looking at to really differentiate from most out there. Get rid of the crappy, loud, inefficient AC units and install residential Mini-Splits (heat pumps) like New Horizon and Spacecraft do... bonus is 3 less holes in the roof and more room for large solar systems. Use a drop frame up front to gain a ton of storage. Offer units will 10guage or higher solar wires (2 complete sets minimum) from the roof down, but do not install any solar equipment. (The stuff they offer is low end, custom users are all going Victron or Magnum) Offer Independent suspension. Full Body Paint...these are all just Gel Coat and stickers (in 5 yrs they will have faded and cracked stickers and the gel coat will be powdery)! Gen-Y on other models (non Toy Hauler). Better slide mechanisms...use hydraulic or high end electric slides everywhere.
Wow, you have a list of things, help me out, what trailer manufacturer offers all of that?
@@MyBucketListDayNew Horizons, and Spacecraft. LUXE offer most bit not Mini-split. DRV if through Alisha at Rolling Retreats qill do quite a few...less Mini-split unfortunately. We boondock around 80% of the time and so the Mini-split is important for us...I installed my own and it is a game changer.
I totally agree the mini split is the way to go, but sometimes not practical on some models without major modifications. I also agree a mini split designed in the manufacturing would be a great benifit like spacecraft does. I'm going to ask the powers to be at Brinkley if this has ever been considered.@@dankarau2307
so are you going to get one?
Time will tell... They are the best on the road IMO...
Only issue I have is the walls not being thicker for colder weather and the water lines not being wrapped.
Their walls are thicker than almost all other rigs with R11 insulation. I dont know of any mass production coach having wrapped water lines. Their baggage doors are also thicker
you are correct.
Redwoods have 2.5 walls. Riverstone have 3.0 walls, luxe have 3.0 walls, new horizon has 3.5 walls. Wrapping the water lines would help with the water not freezing in low temps.
If r 11 is 3.625 then why can’t the was be thicker
I would want to compare this to an iPhone either and also your interview is very difficult to listen to Al. That was a great interview, but the background noise was ridiculous.
Please let us know if any updates with grand design and your frame. Wish you all the best with whatever you decide in the future lord knows if anyone deserves it it is you.
We'll keep all of you posted on what happens next.
We have a Grand Design I can't break! It's a 24mpr Imagine toy hauler with a 10' garage...It's short and impossible to bend, it's not Titanium, it's Mike Tyson. So like all the other good ideas Grand Design comes up with, they stop making them.
LOL, thats funny and typical.
Well my iphone is crap. Got an Galaxies?
Great RV and yep iPhones are the best.
Right!
If they really want to be different and advanced, They should go with a fiberglass or aluminum roof
The roof is already maintenance free, so the expense of that would be necessary...
Is it a single-ply flexible material ?@@MyBucketListDay
If only Brinkley made a super C!
One can dream!
I’m bet your buying a brinkly
All still up in the air right now.
Please don't compare them to Iphones. Iphones are nothing special, they have been forced to refund billions for false claims about their products...their so called security can be broken by a high school computer buff and my wife will attest that their security is no better than an android ( she administered 100 cell phones as part of her job with a major credit union. I do agree after checking their units out in person that IMHO they are the best constructed on the market available from mass producers. Our next will be a Brinkley once they inrtoduce a couples travel trailer.
I fully agree ! Iphones are junk ant the Brinkley is quite nice !
They do have a couples trailer, it's called the Z Air 285. Its not at the show, but does have the floorplan displayed next to the Z Air 295. So if your still at the show, go see it.
First, this post is full of misinformation re Apple phones. Apple’s class action suit applied to only certain models, not all of them.
Second, Brinkley does make a trailer now.
I’m glad Geoff found his joy again. We love our Brinkley.
I interpreted the "iphone" comparison statement more to the market setting of new trend / device. Regardless of liking an iPhone or not, the iphone & apple ecosystem have provided a path over 50% adopted...mainly for the innovative designs, quality, build detail, reliability and integration... And Iconic Brand man want to be associated with Owning.
Similarily, Brinkley has introduced some designs and build techniques that have quickly proved and been recognized superior and innovative! A young company that's jumping ahead of established competition and these established companies are even coping some features.
Brinkley in many ways... Has become the Leader to Follow and the Desired Iconic Brand to Tow & Own!
Iphones are the ford pinto of phones.
Ok, Not the general census, but to each their own.
So it sucks like iPhone
Well, most of the world doesn't think this way, so to each their own. It is a high quality and innovative product...
I think the Brinkley is quite nice ! Not at all a piece of crap like an iphone !!!
To each their own...