Fun fact, The dancing CGI figures during the sound examples, was all done by Mark wearing a motion tracking suit. Awesome review there guys, this thing sounds wonderful!
£3.6k is a lot of tea and biscuits. Or an average gas bill, if you speak realpolitik. As a PC wonk, I consider myself fortunate to be exempt from the urge to splurge it on a greenbox. A patchbay, some audio interface I/O, and some portly rack gear will hafta do. There'll be no shortage of tea and biscuits at Studio Dw00m this week. Hurrah!
Nice review 🖤 Clever the Royal Q plugin is a digital EQ plugin with an analog saturation section which then utilizes APB circuitry to apply the analog character. Brilliant.
I do like what it does but more and more I feel that analog outboards (or hybrid solutions in this case) are a luxury hard to justify in the modern studio. I'd love to have the APB but I don't miss it really. Still, I think a lot of engineers who feel attached to their outboard equipment will find this amazing and embrace it in an instant. Again, great video guys ;)
Another great presentation gentlemen -I've been an enthusiastic user of McDSP for a very long time and lucky enough to know Colin and the guys at the McDSP shop ... you got me thinking about making a purchase for the third quarter of this year - damn you to hell !!!! just kidding - keep up the good work - much respect
Great Review!! My hold back on this system is the Thunderbolt 2 connectors which was not specified in your review. It is certainly fine using it with an adapter from TB2 - TB3 but investing so much on such unit is kind of a concern to be eventually outdated, as TB4 is now becoming the standard. Universal Audio has addressed this by having their connectors replaceable. Other wishes for this system is to design the hardware as an open system to accept Hardware Plug-ins. Example it will be so nice to be able to drop Transformers on each channel and drive them, or simple Eq circuits which this system currently does not have. I'm referring to the almost standard hardware plugin's like "Louder than Liftoff", "HRK", "DIY Recording Equipment". It still sounds great for what it is. McDSP has been the leading analog sounding plugins developer for years and Colin McDowel is a Genius!!
This box includes a lovely new eq unit from the Royal range 💚 remembering that mcdsp are releasing new units for the apb and we get them for free ! Who else is doing that 🤷♂️ this is sooooo far ahead of the game ✌️💚☯️
@@alexanderaseffa hey , that may be so but it’s a bloody sexy eq unit 💚 especially the 20-25k section 💚 the air it gives a mix/master is beautiful ... honestly I own some nice gear and this box and all the toys we get with it are next level 🙌 I see people hating and I just think ..... why ? It’s a great new bit of gear bringing analog to the “in the box” workflow and with ease and style 🤷♂️ haters gonna hate I guess , but I’m a lover so I save the hating for real reasons 🙌 like the need to government Re form 🎯 and even then I keep the hate to a minimum lol anyway ... I can’t recommend the apb highly enough 💚 well worth saving for ✌️💚☯️
@@Skimatik_DnB I actually like the unit. I usually do not purchase first iterations. So, hopefully McDSP will release the MK II. It’s a device that you keep for good as it sounds really nice.
@@alexanderaseffa I just don’t see the need for a mark 2 🤷♂️ have you seen what’s inside this box ? It’s not exactly cheep components .... if you like what you see and here from all involved I’d say go get it 💚 I’d be surprised if a mark 2 comes out any time soon if at all . This box is built to last and from what I hear Collin say it will do just that ..... ✌️💚☯️
🤔🤦♂....No. The Cranborne Audio 500ADAT/USB is better. The APB is $4k to $6K and its Compression and Saturation only, no EQ???? And it can't be used on your front end, nor as an insert.... its Brilliant technology but doesn't make sense at that price point.
@@Skimatik_DnB you bought it, so I expect you to disagree. But the Cranborne 500 series chassis is better and it’s cheaper, more versatile as you are able to load whatever you want in the rack and swap out modules as needed, and you can get analog goodness on the way in, and you can sum/mix through it, you don’t even need an audio interface....you can’t do that with the APB. How is the APB better...in what way?????
@@bigdap100 I’m guessing we both own the tool we want . I can’t compare to the brand you are promoting as Iv never owned one 🙌 as you haven’t the apb . The apb is a first of its kind , you can’t compare it to something cheaper and older in technical ability 🤷♂️ you can daisy chan the apb , you can plug it straight into your laptop if you want and you have real analog at your fingertips 💚 the quality this box brings is noticeable and so say all that hear it with honesty .... you can hate on it but your comparing it to something bellow it 🤷♂️ enjoy your chosen tools, I know I am ✌️
@@Skimatik_DnB I didn’t say it was bad, I said it was brilliant...I just think that at that $4 to 6 or $7k price point, it doesn’t make a lot of sense...in my opinion...never said it didn’t sound good, but I think it’s a bad design at that price point....it doesn’t do a single thing for you on the front end...that’s utterly ridiculous I’m my opinio. I’m sorry...Colin didn’t think that it was worth another 50 bucks to add inserts on this thing? That, in my opinion, is not a good design...I still love the guy though, it’s nothing personal, I own McDsp plugs. 🙂
If anyone remembers the very early days of ‘digital’ consoles, Euphonix’s only console was D-controlled A, and it sounded fantastic. I considered one for my remote truck but the rackspace and wiring requirements were outrageous. Like 50-60RU!! The hardware dictated by D controlled A architecture is literally disqualifying for console design, despite the brilliance of the concept. Making the guts digital was a game-changer and console design will not be going back.
Well impressed . The compressors sound great. I could well use a 16 version on stem mixing. Sell a few hardware units and get ITB. A great idea only limited by thunderbolt. It could fit in my ruck sack with my MacBook Pro and headphones. Thanks for the video and the dancing.
Two Jameses, this has to be good. My best take away from the video is, you shouldn't have more channels than fingers. Even with a fair plp, it's not coming to my studio, I'm afraid, but thanks for the review nonetheless.
It sounds super good for sure. And I trust Colin's magical skills. But it's digital-analogue - and digital (or semi-digital) gear doesn't age well (I had a Soundtracs DPCII, I had a ProTools TDM system). You'll be dependent on software and drivers and 3rd party ... without the software you'll end up with a green box full of very cool, but useless electronics. I'd love to try the APB-8 though ... maybe I'm too sceptical these days ;-)
I've managed to solve the obsolescence issue by not throwing out expensive legacy hardware every time an OS jumps a version. Focusrites Liquid 32 only works reliably up to Win XP, so it's plugged into an XP box. The 400 processor plugins attached to it are very decent quality, even if they're 32bit. The same applies to my TC Powercore kit. It didn't suddenly become harrbl overnight, just because Steve Ballmer wanted to scratch a commercial itch. Powercore kit works fine with Win 8.1 and Win 10, although, once again, it's all 32bit. I'll keep my X8 rack until the sun goes cold, because it has a Virus vst synth , and a full set of System 6000 plugins installed. 32bit kit works fine in Mixcraft without any additional bridging software. Jbridge is free, and works with most 64bit DAWS , although some developers are finally building that backwards compatibility into their sequencers in response to users finally getting antsy about arbitrarily torpedoed software investments. Built in obsolescence is a shitty way to do business, and it never ceases to amaze me how many people play along with it for the sake of their fragile street cred..
@@MisticDW I tried all the fixes with the Liquid Mix, but it seems to be allergic to the FW drivers on my Win 8.1 and Win 10 boxes.. I don't want to fix one thing while unfixing two others. It works fine on the XP workstation, so I'm happy.
My only concern is that (story time) I have a TC Powercore external DSP, was about £1k. After about 6-7 years it went redundant due to the tech being sold to UAD and then discontinued. Thus one OS update to many and it no long functions…… So how future proof is the McDSP? I wonder if it could have another unit that was a universal controller with all all the Adat/madi/analog I/O. You could then patch everything like you would normally and incorporate you preamps/Eq for tracking and could use for analogue summing etc. That way it could be a standalone unit. Like a rack kemper/axe fx style physical controller for ‘hands on’ tweaking but just controlling the analogue goodness within.
Bad taste, poorly designed, outdated skuomorphism is my take on why their UI looks and is so crappy....not to mention the metal embossed graphics on the box. The guy who art directs it probably thinks the Brady Bunch and the Ford Pinto were the height of fashion style.....
Love your content guys , keep it up!!! Now... i'm disappointed on this one... simply because... it is always the same circuitry in the analog part of it... so again it is up to the software to simulate different compressors... and for the money... forget it... you can get 8 warm audio 76s/2as/bus comps...and actually get different flavours... that's my 2 cent love mcdsp plugins, but this one... nope
@@WillyJunior oh I'm writing the paper as a student! part of my curriculum is to take a marketing course (which I found surprisingly more interesting than I thought), and I decided to write my final paper about an audio console that has the potential to track and mix with EQ and compression similar to that of an SSL, but with a lower track count and less options for routing and monitoring. It's similar to this product, but imagine it has an audio interface and preamps (so you can track with it) as well as a physical controller (like the UC1) instead of a board-wide user interface or a digital-only plugin. The idea was to make the processing sleek and out of sight, but the controllability expandable and ergonomic. I never liked leaning over the big ol' boards, but just knowing I'm using something analog is cool. However, while researching I realize there's some questionable design choices, as well as the costs being not as high as I originally thought. But, whatevs, it's just a dream console that I decided was more interesting to write about than an automatic back-scratcher! if any of this is a good idea though, contact me [insert company name]...
Very interesting. I was interested in getting one. Not having the EQ running through the analogue process is definitely making the choice easier. If I may comment on a side topic-this is also a good example of a GUI design that makes me feel the quality is not as good as the product probably is. Not because it tries to look like old real gear but how they do it. It's with graphic design just as with sound and hardware: you can do it really well and you can do it not so well even if it's kind of OK. MacDSP has a history of horrible GUI but these are on the way of getting better. Although I do think he should look further and polish the graphic design into something really good that reflects the quality of his product. (I know, subjective right?!)
Terminator says: “Come Dancing with me, if you want to Jive..!” Fantastic... that means one can chain 8 of these to a fully-loaded Apple Studio Ultra... super deal..! (?) My 80s Accessit mono compressor has two real knobs (count ‘em)... do I win..?
I owned 5 of those luxuriously appointed Accessit boxes as a young'un, including a couple of the panners. And one of the mysterious 5 way 5 pin din power supplies. Multipass! I see them for sale on the fleabay for credulous hipster prices these days, and snicker quietly into my vocoder, while stroking my pet tasmanian devil
The only problem is it’s thunderbolt 2 not 3 or 4… they could do with a version with digital ins and outs or even analog… it’s hybrid so probably digital ins and out would be better
For me Bouncing offline in Pro Tools with hardware inserts on the mix bus (the hardware is digital fancyness pretending to be analog gear but Pro Tools just sees a “hardware insert”) sounds as though the hardware inserts aren’t there at all, it’s just as if i bypassed or removed the insert from the signal chain.
@@PresentDayProduction But then... stutters and mess all over the place is probably the eventual fate of most of us of a certain vintage, as the years go by.
@@PresentDayProduction Seems like a potential for cool glitchy sounds. Is there a way to record the output, as the offline bounce is happening? I guess it could be done simply by replacing the outboard hardware with a recorder.
I had a very bad experience with this company. I have bought some years ago windows version of many of their plugins and found them to crash my Studio One sessions plus values are unreadable. It's been years and they never update the windows versions. I've contacted their support many times and they keep telling me that they don't have no plan to fixe these bugs. Crazy. I'll never buy anything else from them let alone a 5000$ box.
I have some of their plugins, and not a single issue with them, studio one on the other hand, I had so many issues with that I stopped using it and switched to reaper. Studio one can't even handle offline processing if using prism interface, crashes every time. It is a known bug with studio one (other prism users have it too, yet not with any other daw). Maybe studio one is your problem?
@@rectape You'd need to ask studio one that, why is studio one seeming to work with every other interface besides prism? It's hardly like Prism is cheap... their cheapest 2 in 2 out interface is $2000. The issue myself and any other prism users have with it, is when offline rendering, it freezes/locks up and then just crashes.
Question: Does an external DSP hardware that works with any plugin in the daw exist? I mean not a hardware only with its own plugins (like this one, or UAD, and so on).
The thing in this video is ENTIRELY different to the UAD stuff. The UAD stuff is dsp processing running plugins, entirely digital, the McDSP thing in this video is actual hardware processing, controlled via digital interface
Build your own. In fact it does exist but as you’d imagine it’s locked down to support only proprietary plugins (Waves Soundgrid) which uses a normal computer as it’s server. This space is very interesting and Mac M1 is a perfect solution if you wanted to build your own dsp server using Audiogridder or even Reaper. Not sure if AG supports Mac but you can repurpose any old computer to do this or even build a dedicated one. Some people may not want to be mucking around with this sort of stuff so you can buy a Waves Soundgrid server and use that. It is locked to Wavea and a few other plugin manufacturers.
@@kehindea thank you. I know I can use a second computer to do the job, with VEP for example. I was wondering why nobody built a hardware box to do just DSP for any plugin. The technology behind it would be just a computer but with one gol. Like a PlayStation… is just a computer for gaming only, but it’s still just a computer. I’m pretty sure it would sell very well, it wouldn’t need proprietary plugins, it could connect through an Ethernet cable maybe with Dante, and that’s it. It could have expandable ram at need, and it could be very cheap, under a $1000… Let’s call it UDSP, like in Universal DSP. Sounds good?
I don't believe in the concept of dedicated dsp outboard processors for plugins. A better alternative is in my eyes track and mix e.g. with a 32 Bit converter (e.g. the ones from Steinberg) and use your plugins in 96 kHz. Probably use the HypersonX filters from airwindows and you will have the same analog sound with no aliasing and these sweet highs above the 20 kHz Nyquist Frequency and beyond. And you are much more flexible.
Utter waste of money. 6 grand to 11 grand here in Oz. If I ever wanted to go analogue I certainly would not want to use a box that looks digital but has ‘analogue’ circuitry under the bonnet. I would rather buy the outboard gear. Half the fun of Anna Log is the physical knobs and bottoms. I am not interested in harping back to the days of analogue. This obsession is stunting development and innovation in recording technology. It’s time to start moving on from the need to have more gear that looks backwards. It’s a NO from me.
I never reads so much understanding about this product….. This is enterré analog and it’s 500 euros a channel. You don’t need cable, you have total recall and actually all the top pro engineer I know (yes I know CLA) told me it’s a game changer and sounds like another hardware. With one unit you having tons of comp, saturation, EQ and the beauty is to do not having to pay for 16 different hardware unit (including the electricity bills). No man, you are definitely wrong about this product, it’s a really game changer And about the knobs buy a Avid programmable controller, you can map all the knobs on the console like a real console. Well you are so wrong
🤔🤦♂....No. The Cranborne Audio 500ADAT/USB is better. The APB is $4k to $6K and its Compression and Saturation only, no EQ???? And it can't be used on your front end, nor as an insert.... its Brilliant technology but doesn't make sense at that price point.
A single/dual channel version of this would be insane for some smaller,newer producers/engineers
Fun fact,
The dancing CGI figures during the sound examples, was all done by Mark wearing a motion tracking suit.
Awesome review there guys, this thing sounds wonderful!
Sounds so good! I'm kind of gutted and also glad it doesn't work with the pc, saves me the money I'd otherwise end up spending on one lol
One of the best production/studio videos ever!
Wow! Thanks so much! 😱
£3.6k is a lot of tea and biscuits. Or an average gas bill, if you speak realpolitik.
As a PC wonk, I consider myself fortunate to be exempt from the urge to splurge it on a greenbox.
A patchbay, some audio interface I/O, and some portly rack gear will hafta do. There'll be no shortage of tea and biscuits at Studio Dw00m this week. Hurrah!
Lovin' the idea of a StudioRats / PDP collab!
Nice review 🖤 Clever the Royal Q plugin is a digital EQ plugin with an analog saturation section which then utilizes APB circuitry to apply the analog character. Brilliant.
Been waiting for this! :D
While I don't have a studio or do any recording these days, I have to say this is one of my favorite PDP videos of all time.
Wow, thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed it! Just so we can further improve further videos, what did you like about it more than the others? :)
Brilliant except for Mac only thunderbolt. Thank you guys for the detailed video
I do like what it does but more and more I feel that analog outboards (or hybrid solutions in this case) are a luxury hard to justify in the modern studio. I'd love to have the APB but I don't miss it really.
Still, I think a lot of engineers who feel attached to their outboard equipment will find this amazing and embrace it in an instant.
Again, great video guys ;)
A must for an experienced Mixer producer...etc
Evening guys
I guess your guest liked the ATCs)
Another great presentation gentlemen -I've been an enthusiastic user of McDSP for a very long time and lucky enough to know Colin and the guys at the McDSP shop ... you got me thinking about making a purchase for the third quarter of this year - damn you to hell !!!! just kidding - keep up the good work - much respect
it sounds like every unit has a "clarity" function or something in addition to their main purpose :) sounds fantastic.
Thank you so very much! That was Flopcatastic!
Great Review!! My hold back on this system is the Thunderbolt 2 connectors which was not specified in your review. It is certainly fine using it with an adapter from TB2 - TB3 but investing so much on such unit is kind of a concern to be eventually outdated, as TB4 is now becoming the standard. Universal Audio has addressed this by having their connectors replaceable. Other wishes for this system is to design the hardware as an open system to accept Hardware Plug-ins. Example it will be so nice to be able to drop Transformers on each channel and drive them, or simple Eq circuits which this system currently does not have. I'm referring to the almost standard hardware plugin's like "Louder than Liftoff", "HRK", "DIY Recording Equipment". It still sounds great for what it is. McDSP has been the leading analog sounding plugins developer for years and Colin McDowel is a Genius!!
This box includes a lovely new eq unit from the Royal range 💚 remembering that mcdsp are releasing new units for the apb and we get them for free ! Who else is doing that 🤷♂️ this is sooooo far ahead of the game ✌️💚☯️
@@Skimatik_DnB a digital software Eq but not using the analog system.
@@alexanderaseffa hey , that may be so but it’s a bloody sexy eq unit 💚 especially the 20-25k section 💚 the air it gives a mix/master is beautiful ... honestly I own some nice gear and this box and all the toys we get with it are next level 🙌 I see people hating and I just think ..... why ? It’s a great new bit of gear bringing analog to the “in the box” workflow and with ease and style 🤷♂️ haters gonna hate I guess , but I’m a lover so I save the hating for real reasons 🙌 like the need to government Re form 🎯 and even then I keep the hate to a minimum lol anyway ... I can’t recommend the apb highly enough 💚 well worth saving for ✌️💚☯️
@@Skimatik_DnB I actually like the unit. I usually do not purchase first iterations. So, hopefully McDSP will release the MK II. It’s a device that you keep for good as it sounds really nice.
@@alexanderaseffa I just don’t see the need for a mark 2 🤷♂️ have you seen what’s inside this box ? It’s not exactly cheep components .... if you like what you see and here from all involved I’d say go get it 💚 I’d be surprised if a mark 2 comes out any time soon if at all . This box is built to last and from what I hear Collin say it will do just that ..... ✌️💚☯️
Really appreciating the dancers along with the demos 😂
Me watching the Terminator dance: "LOL"
Me as soon as the compressor kicks in: "Oh shit."
I have an 8 and love it 💚 for so many reasons if your serious about your music and can’t save the money I’d say do it 🎯 ✌️
🤔🤦♂....No. The Cranborne Audio 500ADAT/USB is better.
The APB is $4k to $6K and its Compression and Saturation only, no EQ????
And it can't be used on your front end, nor as an insert....
its Brilliant technology but doesn't make sense at that price point.
@@bigdap100 what utter nonsense 🤦♂️ the apb is such an amazing analog hybrid tool 💚 and you want to compare it to what ?.. 😂 stop trolling ✌️
@@Skimatik_DnB you bought it, so I expect you to disagree. But the Cranborne 500 series chassis is better and it’s cheaper, more versatile as you are able to load whatever you want in the rack and swap out modules as needed, and you can get analog goodness on the way in, and you can sum/mix through it, you don’t even need an audio interface....you can’t do that with the APB. How is the APB better...in what way?????
@@bigdap100 I’m guessing we both own the tool we want . I can’t compare to the brand you are promoting as Iv never owned one 🙌 as you haven’t the apb . The apb is a first of its kind , you can’t compare it to something cheaper and older in technical ability 🤷♂️ you can daisy chan the apb , you can plug it straight into your laptop if you want and you have real analog at your fingertips 💚 the quality this box brings is noticeable and so say all that hear it with honesty .... you can hate on it but your comparing it to something bellow it 🤷♂️ enjoy your chosen tools, I know I am ✌️
@@Skimatik_DnB I didn’t say it was bad, I said it was brilliant...I just think that at that $4 to 6 or $7k price point, it doesn’t make a lot of sense...in my opinion...never said it didn’t sound good, but I think it’s a bad design at that price point....it doesn’t do a single thing for you on the front end...that’s utterly ridiculous I’m my opinio.
I’m sorry...Colin didn’t think that it was worth another 50 bucks to add inserts on this thing? That, in my opinion, is not a good design...I still love the guy though, it’s nothing personal, I own McDsp plugs. 🙂
Whoa… now I need some professional-level prosperity.
Really digging the giant cat face and panda.
Multiband Compression is so cool! An dancing dudes too!
If anyone remembers the very early days of ‘digital’ consoles, Euphonix’s only console was D-controlled A, and it sounded fantastic. I considered one for my remote truck but the rackspace and wiring requirements were outrageous. Like 50-60RU!! The hardware dictated by D controlled A architecture is literally disqualifying for console design, despite the brilliance of the concept. Making the guts digital was a game-changer and console design will not be going back.
Rupert Neve design the first digital console
Interesting tech if a little gimmicky. Another great video!
Well impressed . The compressors sound great. I could well use a 16 version on stem mixing. Sell a few hardware units and get ITB. A great idea only limited by thunderbolt. It could fit in my ruck sack with my MacBook Pro and headphones. Thanks for the video and the dancing.
man i want this on pc so i can use it along with all my uad stuff.
Two Jameses, this has to be good. My best take away from the video is, you shouldn't have more channels than fingers.
Even with a fair plp, it's not coming to my studio, I'm afraid, but thanks for the review nonetheless.
It sounds super good for sure. And I trust Colin's magical skills. But it's digital-analogue - and digital (or semi-digital) gear doesn't age well (I had a Soundtracs DPCII, I had a ProTools TDM system). You'll be dependent on software and drivers and 3rd party ... without the software you'll end up with a green box full of very cool, but useless electronics. I'd love to try the APB-8 though ... maybe I'm too sceptical these days ;-)
I've managed to solve the obsolescence issue by not throwing out expensive legacy hardware every time an OS jumps a version.
Focusrites Liquid 32 only works reliably up to Win XP, so it's plugged into an XP box. The 400 processor plugins attached to it are very decent quality, even if they're 32bit.
The same applies to my TC Powercore kit. It didn't suddenly become harrbl overnight, just because Steve Ballmer wanted to scratch a commercial itch. Powercore kit works fine with Win 8.1 and Win 10, although, once again, it's all 32bit. I'll keep my X8 rack until the sun goes cold, because it has a Virus vst synth , and a full set of System 6000 plugins installed. 32bit kit works fine in Mixcraft without any additional bridging software. Jbridge is free, and works with most 64bit DAWS , although some developers are finally building that backwards compatibility into their sequencers in response to users finally getting antsy about arbitrarily torpedoed software investments. Built in obsolescence is a shitty way to do business, and it never ceases to amaze me how many people play along with it for the sake of their fragile street cred..
I've managed to keep my Liquid Mix 32 and Powercore X8 running on my 12th gen i9 system running Windows 11
@@MisticDW I tried all the fixes with the Liquid Mix, but it seems to be allergic to the FW drivers on my Win 8.1 and Win 10 boxes..
I don't want to fix one thing while unfixing two others. It works fine on the XP workstation, so I'm happy.
yeah just like the ssl duende! And soon to be poo a d.
Great review, Flop Cat will love the chicken head sauce! 😁😁😁
Indeed!
Wesaudio FTW
My only concern is that (story time) I have a TC Powercore external DSP, was about £1k. After about 6-7 years it went redundant due to the tech being sold to UAD and then discontinued. Thus one OS update to many and it no long functions……
So how future proof is the McDSP? I wonder if it could have another unit that was a universal controller with all all the Adat/madi/analog I/O. You could then patch everything like you would normally and incorporate you preamps/Eq for tracking and could use for analogue summing etc. That way it could be a standalone unit.
Like a rack kemper/axe fx style physical controller for ‘hands on’ tweaking but just controlling the analogue goodness within.
Exactly this
every bypassed state felt like a count down to when apb was flipped on
also I thought the last eq was analog
awesome vid
I'd love one, but too expensive. I'll drool.
I can't stand the look and feel of McDSP's GUI's since ever. There is something about this brand that just turns me off. I really don't know why tho.
Bad taste, poorly designed, outdated skuomorphism is my take on why their UI looks and is so crappy....not to mention the metal embossed graphics on the box. The guy who art directs it probably thinks the Brady Bunch and the Ford Pinto were the height of fashion style.....
Cheers
Love your content guys , keep it up!!!
Now... i'm disappointed on this one... simply because... it is always the same circuitry in the analog part of it... so again it is up to the software to simulate different compressors... and for the money... forget it... you can get 8 warm audio 76s/2as/bus comps...and actually get different flavours...
that's my 2 cent
love mcdsp plugins, but this one... nope
I'm writing a marketing paper on something almost like this,, why couldn't this come at a time other than a day before the paper's due
What is your job, if you don't mind me asking?
@Noah Valdez sorry! Best of luck! :D
@@WillyJunior oh I'm writing the paper as a student! part of my curriculum is to take a marketing course (which I found surprisingly more interesting than I thought), and I decided to write my final paper about an audio console that has the potential to track and mix with EQ and compression similar to that of an SSL, but with a lower track count and less options for routing and monitoring.
It's similar to this product, but imagine it has an audio interface and preamps (so you can track with it) as well as a physical controller (like the UC1) instead of a board-wide user interface or a digital-only plugin. The idea was to make the processing sleek and out of sight, but the controllability expandable and ergonomic. I never liked leaning over the big ol' boards, but just knowing I'm using something analog is cool. However, while researching I realize there's some questionable design choices, as well as the costs being not as high as I originally thought. But, whatevs, it's just a dream console that I decided was more interesting to write about than an automatic back-scratcher!
if any of this is a good idea though, contact me [insert company name]...
Very interesting. I was interested in getting one. Not having the EQ running through the analogue process is definitely making the choice easier.
If I may comment on a side topic-this is also a good example of a GUI design that makes me feel the quality is not as good as the product probably is.
Not because it tries to look like old real gear but how they do it. It's with graphic design just as with sound and hardware: you can do it really well and you can do it not so well even if it's kind of OK.
MacDSP has a history of horrible GUI but these are on the way of getting better. Although I do think he should look further and polish the graphic design into something really good that reflects the quality of his product.
(I know, subjective right?!)
This is cool. Thanks for the demo. Antelope audio also makes FPGA based analog plugins.
fpga's are digital circuits, they're technically not analog
@@Websurferz I though the logic gates were analog?
Terminator says: “Come Dancing with me, if you want to Jive..!”
Fantastic... that means one can chain 8 of these to a fully-loaded Apple Studio Ultra... super deal..! (?)
My 80s Accessit mono compressor has two real knobs (count ‘em)... do I win..?
I owned 5 of those luxuriously appointed Accessit boxes as a young'un, including a couple of the panners. And one of the mysterious 5 way 5 pin din power supplies. Multipass!
I see them for sale on the fleabay for credulous hipster prices these days, and snicker quietly into my vocoder, while stroking my pet tasmanian devil
I'll take the SSL Fusion.. costs less.. more fun!
last!... currently :P
If I had like $7k I didn't know what to do with I wld def get one of these!
14:51... flashing red lights 😇 somewhere
This does a DA Conversion, processing through analog circuits and then back through an AD conversion into the digital workflow?
Correct. Through AKM converters to make the conversion as un-noticeable as possible
@@PresentDayProduction Any issues with heat?
explain how this box can do analog vacuum tube compressor emulation without any real vacuum tubes in it....
Ouch so expensive
He looks like David Bowie's long lost nephew.
It is absolutely crazy that it doesn´t work with PC, they are just loosing customers... Maybe you could tell them?
The only problem is it’s thunderbolt 2 not 3 or 4… they could do with a version with digital ins and outs or even analog… it’s hybrid so probably digital ins and out would be better
This is a great idea for companies in the future… digitally controlled analog units to put in the chain of a mixer or a summing unit
@@TheSakuraGumiLTD Bettermaker does this
i've never owned an interface with a wordclock..
Anyone who ever bought a tc powecore will be giving this a wide birth...
Does it come with those dancers? :)
It does!
Can't find any information is this is Mac only or if it supports windows. Super lame. :\
It’s definitely mac only - there are only mac software downloads on their website (it was also briefly mentioned in the video too)
They only support mac users. The windows versions are abandonware
8:54 should i be the one to tell him?
What does the result sound like, when you do offline bounce through an analog hardware?
For me Bouncing offline in Pro Tools with hardware inserts on the mix bus (the hardware is digital fancyness pretending to be analog gear but Pro Tools just sees a “hardware insert”) sounds as though the hardware inserts aren’t there at all, it’s just as if i bypassed or removed the insert from the signal chain.
On the APB-8 it it unusable in offline bounce. It’s stutters and mess all over the place. But that’s fair enough as it’s not designed for that
@@PresentDayProduction But then... stutters and mess all over the place is probably the eventual fate of most of us of a certain vintage, as the years go by.
@@PresentDayProduction Seems like a potential for cool glitchy sounds. Is there a way to record the output, as the offline bounce is happening? I guess it could be done simply by replacing the outboard hardware with a recorder.
Wes Audio >
Have yall ever used the RME Fireface or UFX+?
Poor hamster. Lol
I had a very bad experience with this company. I have bought some years ago windows version of many of their plugins and found them to crash my Studio One sessions plus values are unreadable. It's been years and they never update the windows versions. I've contacted their support many times and they keep telling me that they don't have no plan to fixe these bugs. Crazy. I'll never buy anything else from them let alone a 5000$ box.
I have some of their plugins, and not a single issue with them, studio one on the other hand, I had so many issues with that I stopped using it and switched to reaper. Studio one can't even handle offline processing if using prism interface, crashes every time. It is a known bug with studio one (other prism users have it too, yet not with any other daw). Maybe studio one is your problem?
@@UncleBenjs but then why is it working with every other plugin brand? What is the offline processing problem that you’ve had? When rendering?
@@rectape You'd need to ask studio one that, why is studio one seeming to work with every other interface besides prism? It's hardly like Prism is cheap... their cheapest 2 in 2 out interface is $2000. The issue myself and any other prism users have with it, is when offline rendering, it freezes/locks up and then just crashes.
@@UncleBenjs man I have 4 prism orpheus and have no problem with them in studio one
@@rectape You're a rare case then, when having my issue I googled it and found I was far from the only one. You on pc or mac?
Question: Does an external DSP hardware that works with any plugin in the daw exist? I mean not a hardware only with its own plugins (like this one, or UAD, and so on).
The thing in this video is ENTIRELY different to the UAD stuff. The UAD stuff is dsp processing running plugins, entirely digital, the McDSP thing in this video is actual hardware processing, controlled via digital interface
Build your own. In fact it does exist but as you’d imagine it’s locked down to support only proprietary plugins (Waves Soundgrid) which uses a normal computer as it’s server. This space is very interesting and Mac M1 is a perfect solution if you wanted to build your own dsp server using Audiogridder or even Reaper. Not sure if AG supports Mac but you can repurpose any old computer to do this or even build a dedicated one. Some people may not want to be mucking around with this sort of stuff so you can buy a Waves Soundgrid server and use that. It is locked to Wavea and a few other plugin manufacturers.
@@kehindea thank you. I know I can use a second computer to do the job, with VEP for example. I was wondering why nobody built a hardware box to do just DSP for any plugin. The technology behind it would be just a computer but with one gol. Like a PlayStation… is just a computer for gaming only, but it’s still just a computer. I’m pretty sure it would sell very well, it wouldn’t need proprietary plugins, it could connect through an Ethernet cable maybe with Dante, and that’s it. It could have expandable ram at need, and it could be very cheap, under a $1000… Let’s call it UDSP, like in Universal DSP. Sounds good?
FIRST BITCHES!
$7000.
Too bad, they've discounted Windows users. :-(
I don't believe in the concept of dedicated dsp outboard processors for plugins. A better alternative is in my eyes track and mix e.g. with a 32 Bit converter (e.g. the ones from Steinberg) and use your plugins in 96 kHz. Probably use the HypersonX filters from airwindows and you will have the same analog sound with no aliasing and these sweet highs above the 20 kHz Nyquist Frequency and beyond. And you are much more flexible.
Utter waste of money. 6 grand to 11 grand here in Oz. If I ever wanted to go analogue I certainly would not want to use a box that looks digital but has ‘analogue’ circuitry under the bonnet. I would rather buy the outboard gear. Half the fun of Anna Log is the physical knobs and bottoms. I am not interested in harping back to the days of analogue. This obsession is stunting development and innovation in recording technology. It’s time to start moving on from the need to have more gear that looks backwards. It’s a NO from me.
I never reads so much understanding about this product…..
This is enterré analog and it’s 500 euros a channel.
You don’t need cable, you have total recall and actually all the top pro engineer I know (yes I know CLA) told me it’s a game changer and sounds like another hardware.
With one unit you having tons of comp, saturation, EQ and the beauty is to do not having to pay for 16 different hardware unit (including the electricity bills).
No man, you are definitely wrong about this product, it’s a really game changer
And about the knobs buy a Avid programmable controller, you can map all the knobs on the console like a real console.
Well you are so wrong
🤔🤦♂....No. The Cranborne Audio 500ADAT/USB is better.
The APB is $4k to $6K and its Compression and Saturation only, no EQ????
And it can't be used on your front end, nor as an insert....
its Brilliant technology but doesn't make sense at that price point.