OPAS Behemoth Colony Warship Breakdown | The Expanse Ships
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2020
- A detailed breakdown of the OPA's massive warship the Behemoth. From Mormon dream vessel to its current incarnation as Medina Station, we take a look at it's evolution and explain every single feature of the ship.
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This is one of the funniest ships in sci-fi to me. It's a Mormon temple/generational colony ship, turned the largest cueball ever constructed, turned barely functional warship, turned space station at the center of an extradimensional netherspace. There's no other ship I can think of with such a wacky history.
I LMFAO when Joe told him he was gonna steal it and throw it at Eros 🤣
Lol I'm gonna use some form of this line in my video on Joe.
Keep making these Expanse breakdowns...best Sci-Fi going right now.
Best show on at the moment of any genre.
Read the books
Shit gets wild
"Holy fucking shit. That just happened."
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You know its good with a quote like that
Haha. I'm a mormon, and I've never heard about this ship. This is hilarious/awesome
Glad you commented! I was actually wondering, the golden spire itself - do you know if it has any religious symbolism in Mormonism?
@@GenerationFilms The golden spire doesn't mean anything and is probably a design choice.
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The spire was likely paying homage to the usual design of Earth-based Temples, and as a place where we can mount the Angel Moroni and easily orient him.
Thanks for asking! Great Video! A bit of sass, but I like it. ;)
All in good fun! Remember, I only make fun of groups and people I really like! That's my rule and I try not to be mean spirited about it in any way! Thanks for your responses re: the spire as well.
@@GenerationFilms its because of the Angel Maroni giving the gold plates to Joseph Smith to translate them into the book of Mormon. So some homage to the Angel for helping to start the religious beliefs.
I suspect if the ship had been allowed to continue under construction till completion, we would have seen a lot more green on the interior floor of the drum. Would have looked like a modern city or whatever built on the inside, just as with any large colony station typically depicted of similar style. For example, the interior of the core of Babylon 5.
Ben thank you for all your videos and especially for the ending of this video. Thank you for your genuine concern for our well being. That was quite nice of you. To answer you on my behalf, yes my family and I are staying safe and healthy. We do appreciate you and your fun videos about the Expanse.
So good to hear my friend, I know a lot of people are quietly having a hard time right now! Thanks so much for watching.
A colony ship done right. A warship done horribly.
a mobile space city made perfectly
@@NightRaven-lh1bf Well the thing was still a few years away from completion
Any colony ship that cannot function as a warship is no vessel I’d want to board, probably better to just scuttle should any hostile forces arrive
@@corrat4866 lets be honest you have little chance to be attacked in interstellar space. Maybe if someone really hates you , they will send some missiles after you. But nobody with common sense will chase colony ships for tens of years....
They should of just use it for building a colony to the nearest solar system and start a empire there while allying with the earth and mars government to make humans multi solar system race and keep going while working together to advance there engines.
"There's OPA and there's OPA"
There's OPA and there's OPA and
...there's free-navi.
As far as i know that bridge was originally a chappel but the belters quickly relayed all functions there because of the rooms layout or so ( that also explains the com-lasers wiring running through that room )
When the OPA completely goes full Orc on a space-hippie generation ship
**Laughing in Martian**
What?
The launch of and the recovery of The Nauvoo are the two best VFX sequences the show has done (two the best TV CGI sequences I have ever seen)... some of the people who do reactions on RUclips skip these, I don't know why!
The ironic thing is that the Mormons dont actually need it anymore, cause as of Season 4 there's easier ways to go places. So the OPA can keep it.
I’m sure they want their money back however
@Blue .Barrymore This is just me personally but I ain't ever met a Mormon who didn't chase down a refund. Might just be the Mormons I know though.
Also its...kind of a big investment and stuff. But its not really THEIRS anymore and is kinda/sorta stuck as a waystation so.
Blue .Barrymore you try spending billions on something, not getting it and then tell me if you’re happy
It'd be spoilers to explain why, but sending out STL colony ships would have been a really good idea, specifically *because* of the rings.
it's the biggest thing built in space right ? it can't have been cheap
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Love the series your doing it’s made me rewatch The Expanse again. Keep it up and stay safe
You too my brother.
*Need many more* in this series
The giant spinning tube is to turn the vessel into a small O'Neill cylinder on arrival, sourcing the atmosphere & dirt on arrival so you don't have to carry that extra mass between the stars.
The inside of the drum would be landscaped and terraformed before leaving the system. Farming would supply the food etc and absorb the waste CO2 on their journey.
In regards to the elevator shafts, might I suggest asking Willy Wonka? Maybe you can get a tour of his chocolate factory as he explains how the elevators work.
What I undestood the central empty space on the drum was ment to be turned space to grow plants and food. Just they needed to collect allot of dirt and soil to do it.
And way more
The Mormons lucked out. Now instead of taking generations to reach a new star they can use the Rings. They should get a refund for the ship, though.
Somehow I doubt the dude running Tycho gives refunds.
We never get refunds.
I do agree the poor Mormons should get a refund! Or at least a planet to settle!
@@GenerationFilms It wouldn't be the first time something like this happened considering the early days of the Church's history.
@@GenerationFilms Funding of the LDS church, or mormons as you not members call us, comes from 10% of all members income. This money is used to built and maintain temples and supply farms and factories supported by the church.
Plus it the end, all members can get a part back of the money for the donation.
Tanksa th gudvid, beratna!
Do video on The Ring, it's station and it's wierd Space inside the Ring
Great video milowda!
When you bash parts together you need to have the collective faith of the masses to make them WAAGH, I mean work.
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@@TimonPOL91 no yellow it sploads better
The Belters looked at the Mormon temple and said "IT NEEDS MORE DAKKA!"
Can we get a video going through the crazy slingshot maneuvers Alex did with the Roci while trying to reach Ganymede via thrusters only?
Not a bad idea!
Great vid!
As for your comments at the end of the show... no no, thank you. We really need you & your many colleagues, doing these shows. With out them...the riots world have started sooner. -& for bad excuses, instead of any kind, of reasons ...good, or bad. So keep going, and thanks.
Pretty Cool. I've never saw this series, but it looks good . Great video also !
Thank you GF for your content, and best of wishes for all you do for SIFI in all it's many facets. Mark of the Ohio valley.
Thank you Mark of the Ohio Valley, your words steel our hearts as we venture further into the great void.
keep up the great work
Stargate in Space? Beware the Ori! Loved thesee vids and Hope yall are well too at "Generation." We're thinking abt you and NY
Love these videos. Just wanted to say all the LDS people I know do have guns. To go wifh their food stock piles. So they would most likely have had an armory. And maybe even a few weapons mounted on the ship. Very self sufficient sort of people. Keep up the great work!
LOL the Doug DeMuro of spaceships. Great vid!
Nice video!! Love The Expanse!! Interesting commentary on God's Thumbtack!!
" we steal a church and put guns on it, now we call it a warship."
Works for the Imperial Navy
The Great Journey is Nigh, and nothing, not even the OPA can stop it.
The OPA stops the Great Journey.
It really bummed me out.
😂. Aww. C'mon now, the journey doesn't end, it just changes direction! And I'm sure in the end the Mormons were happy to dedicate the ship to protecting humanity!
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Always, but if our resources could, you know, for once, be left in *our* care, instead of taken away...
That’d be great.
Cool video.
We're doing OK American Ben, you hand in there too!
appreciate all the Drummer footage.
About the elevators can be explained very easily. I believe that you simply use linear induction motors. This type of motor is split up, you have magnets in the vehicle you want to move, in this case the elevator car. And then you have electro-coils in the rails. If you now create a magnetic field in the coils, you can get the vehicle to move. This is completely free.
A German elevator company is already working on elevators that run on rails and use linear induction motors. So you don't need a rope anymore and you can build the elevators as high as you want and let them run sideways. You can only build elevators up to a certain height because the ropes start from a walking length and start to break their own weight. You are currently testing the new lifts so that it is safe enough.
I believe that they simply use magnetic fields on the ship to keep the elevator in the desired position.
I think the giant hollow drum was supposed to have a living space in it when the ship was completed which makes sense since the Behemoth would house not only the original crew but their children and grandchildren also they probably would have had inessential things like movie theaters and museums since it was supposed to function like a small town.
elevators work via electro magnets like a mono rail. the track switching would most likely demagnetize the unwanted track and magnetize the one that it wants to take as to attract it and once aimed right it continues the thrust sequences of - +
Love your attention to the detail and explanation of the series; so hope I can pick your brain about the rings. So the initial ring is the slow burn ring-zone which leads to other rings and worlds, right? If not please explain the rings and beyond. Thank you.
you Americans... always pushing stuff on me.. making it look cool.. I may have to watch this now.. Thanks.. I have a fairly large "to watch" list as it is.... and I'm a Canadian that lives in the US, yup a stealth immigrant .
A drum that large is necessary for minimal Coriolis nausea. Downside is the middle of it should have visible weather patterns.
When he talked about a journey and religious stuff I thought the covenant got a hold on him.
Well... the behemoth guards a big dangerous ring... and it was originally crewed by a religious group... halo vibes anyone?
Rob Bagel all we are missing is monks going: “aaahhhahhhahAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAahahahahahahhahahahahahhahahaahaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaahaaahhahhahahahhahahhahahahahha
Infinite omega
It’s the great journey
I really should reread the books - there is so much stuff happening, that at one point I thought I've skipped a volume. And watch the series.
I am trying to visualize the exterior of Medina Station described in book 7:: "Outside of the drum section two structures ran the entire length of the ship from the engineering deck aft of the drum to the ops deck in the bow. They housed machinery, conduit, and a pair of elevators for moving from one zero-g section to the other without passing through the drum itself. Bobbie and Clarissa planned to use one of them to climb the station to the comm array on the nose, and back down to the Laconian ship docked at the stern"
So exterior elevators from bow to stern going around and over the rotating drum?!
There's supposed to be another elevator system along the spine near the artificial sun light source but we never see it used in the series. Another thing is the drum is much thicker then portrayed in the series, I think there's like at least 3 decks of thickness to it (owing to the redundancy built into the design). Never explicitly explained those were cattle pens being used as the brig. I'd have to read the third book again, I don't think the elevator does that dogleg bend at the aft of the ship. I could swear those outside elevators were mere redundancy when the central spine elevator didn't work or for emergency.
Good comment thank you. I will say the show does have a brief scene where it zooms in on the brig from the outside and there's text on the ship outside of the area that says "livestock".
I would assume that the elevators operate using magnetic levitation, like maglev trains. They basically hover ever so slightly inside the tubes/guiding tracks
I think that is the same way the trams on Ceres station work, so it is logical to assume the elevators work the same way and are in fact just a smaller version. It might be better to call them trams, rather than an elevator, since they don't just go up and down
The big hollow drum keeps the mass down while giving the ship an appropriate circumference to generate the gravity they want at the angular velocity they can manage.
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mor-oh-nigh, thank you very much
@generationfilms read this plz. The whole polygamy thing is annoying.
Did anyone ask?
@@corrat4866 he did say to comment what he missed and or got wrong so yes, someone did ask
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There is only one thing I can correct you on with your use of Mormons. And that is the armory I believe that the Mormons would have had armories on their ship. It’s like just look at Utah it’s literally Mormon Texas.
Destination Tau Ceti!
Being a native Utahn, I had a private chuckle at how you pronounced Moroni
Like the CIC in Battlestar Galactica.
I when American Ben said crazy diehard fan I felt like he was talking about me
i’m just kidding I’m sure he’s talking about all of us
4:20 Good joke. Holden is probably the single biggest coffee drinker in the entire universe.
If you look closely you see a lot of red spots on the ceiling.
Every one of those spots comes from one unlucky crew member who got smashed against the ceiling during the slowdown in the ring sphere.
A good overview of the ship from the perspective of the TV Series. In the books, there is only one elevator in the Nauvoo/Behemoth/Media Station, the one that runs from the engineering section to ops. Book 3 describes in good detail how the transition happens from the drum section to the rotating drum, it is basically a long winding ramp from the spin gravity to the float of either of the end sections.
The parts that you were showing of "Ops" from season 4 isn't actually ops, it is the commander's office as Drummer said. I don't think that the production company put the 3d projection into the center console in season 3 due to the costs and the fact that it was, at the time, a "final" season for the series.
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"thats so the kind the new money buys..." LMAO! "Behemoth" (in beltolawda accent) sounds much better than "Medina". Great great Vídeo Américan Ben! Love You, man! The EXPANSEverse sounds even better with you.
Love you too my friend! I hope you're staying safe!
6:06 The Giant hollow Drum is basically the living space for the colonists. It's a moving O'neill Cyllinder.
This isn't a battle barged this is a forge world.
Ah, the Behemoth. A battleship so bad that the chief engineer doubted it could fire its railguns without destroying itself. And yet both Earth and Mars who sent entire taskforces paused when the Behemoth arrived and took things very very carefully.
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Think of a bicycle wheel, axel and frame. The artificial "sun" in the drum is on a shaft (the axel) that runs through the center of the ship and is connected to the command, engineering and external elevator (the frame) which are all fixed together. The drum (wheel) rotates around the shaft and inside the command/engineering/elevator framework which don't move. If you Google image search "expanse nauvoo" there's a 3D computer render in greyscale that shows fairly well how the fixed-point framework encompasses the rotating drum.
I’m doing well hopefully your are the same, I rally enjoy your groups videos and also hope the expanse returns for a fourth season, but however one of the characters may not want to return so it will be questionable if it does return
The 4th season has already aired, and the fifth season will air later this year.
Uhm. If this thing was so much better than any habitat the belters had. Why not have it as their central base instead of as a warship? Like you said all they basically did was bolt weapons on a hull not made for this. But with the habitat space, growing areas, schools etc. This would have made a great place to have the belters step up a rung on the social ladder. Strap those guns to vessels that could actually maneuver them.
My uninformed guess is the elevators would be moved by linear induction motors. That would eliminate the need for motors in the elevator cabins.
I think the bridge of the Nauvoo/Behemoth is also the Bridge of Medina station. However as Medina station the commander spends more time in an administrative office overlooking the interior of the drum instead of on the bridge.
Also note, the members of The Church of Jesus Christ: Later Day Saints intended to cover the interior surface of the drum with several meters of arable soil. They intended to farm on the ship maintaining a supply of livestock and plants for food and to supplement the life support systems.
Yeah, that's why I tried not to use the word bridge there but because we hadn't seen that office previously I assume it was put in or at least redesigned following the ship being renamed to Medina Station. And because the table console in that office seems to work just as the one in the bridge does and play the same role, I referred to it as the same console. Though, as I said in the video, I'm not sure if it's software is necessarily new or we just hadn't seen it before.
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Not a criticism just my thoughts on the matter. I'm a member of the Church of Jesus Christ Later Day Saints and the office reminded me a lot of a Bishop or Stake Presidents officer which is why I think it was always there just not being used by the Belters.
I need to read the books but the belters really ought to start growing things in Medina Station it would save then a lot of energy and strain on the stations life support, might even improve their health. They don't need to spin it at the intended speed but even if slower and with less simulated gravity it would help them.
The bridge looks like Liberacci took over the CIC on the Galactica.
A Mormon ship? If excommunicated, do they space or recycle you?
I'm still a bit lost about the deteilles of the salvage. As far as I understood Drummer did that, but she was working for Tycho station at the time witch had a contract with the Mormons. So how exactly did they not get their ship back?
If i where the OPA I would have called it Ziz instead of Behemoth. Being that Behemoth is the great monster of the Earth and Ziz belongs to the sky.
Also the habitation drum is meant as a farming environment it needs the Space (plus it helps the psychology of the crew) Below the surface though are many stacked Decks.
The Drum is essentially Central Park with the rest of the structure being the city where people live and work.
This would also make it very easy for a black market or terrorist group to function somewhat unknown in a relatively finite space
Does it have a coffee maker onboard?
If it did nit have I'd just get on my Evac. Pod
Nope. Coffee is not permitted. But they make killer hot chocolate and spectacular pasta.
What if what Holden really saw in the Ring Station was the extinction of coffee?😳🤔
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Then I would jump for joy. And then mourn your loss in respectful silence.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon ok then...see you in Deep Space
Most elevators right now are based exclusively on gravity and pullies, but in space and in 3 dimensions that doesn't really function, you could go up, but down and side to side that's not going to happen without gravity or massive engineering. However if you were to use magnetic rails properly you could make gravity pretty meaningless, changing direction would be hard but not impossible especially with a system of electromagnets that you can turn on and off based on where you're going on the ship
Peace to you too.
I'm disappointed Season 5 hasn't really touched on the Behemoth or what's going on on the other side of the ring. And you're forgetting that drum is a giant air reserve. Let alone sanity for passengers.
There's no reason the elevators shouldn't work but as you got closer to the centre of the ship you would get less gravity until you reached the centre point around which the ship rotates to simulate gravity. At this central point there would be no gravity unless the vessel was accelerating then the apparent gravity would be felt in the direction of the ships aft.
Where do the construction materials come from? With the size and bulk of the Nauvoo there should be a gigantic flow of supplies to the Tycho station. Where is it?
How the Mormons were going to maneuver their massive colony ship into a parking orbit around their new world in Tau Ceti system without the benefit of maneuvering thrusters remains an open question.
One feature not discussed is the command deck escape pod, aka the Tycho Corporation recovery fleet command vessel which has remained tethered to the top of Nauvoo/Behemoth/Medina since it was salvaged drifting in deep space after being evaded by Eros. The command ship is presumably being kept as a contingency measure to allow officers and command deck personnel to evacuate in the event of catastrophic damage or systems failure.
The personnel elevators appear to function by means of maglev tracks rather than servomotors, pulleys, and counterweights, as befitting "the most advanced ship in history."
Beltalowda!
If I lived in the future, I would be waiting with baited breath for the Mormons to leave. I would be as upset as the Mormons if the OPA stole the ship in which they were planning to leave the solar system.
@Kevin Warburton
In the time frame of this story, there's billions.
Unfortunately it would only have taken away the smart mormons
Can't help but think of a ship from Star Wars when I see this. Can't remember the name of it but it's gotta very similar shape
Outbound flight?
I like that an ex-Mormon station is now called Medina station😂
I want to know how the Mormons felt
Wait, just spotted a wtf. (I think)
Assuming that the bridge operates on the same idea of "thrust is down" why didnt it have provisions for when its not under thrust, like when its spinning its habs for gravity? Or for that matter, why didnt the barrel have fixtures to work for either direction? It theoretically should have been designed like the flip ship, w everything able to operate in 2 90deg diff positions.
Edit. Thinking about it, maybe the size of the ship would allow a secondary "spin bridge" for when its not under thrust. But the lack of provisions everywhere else i think stands.
As a Latter Day Saint (LDS) (Mormon) I would have been pretty bummed out Id like to settle a new star system
Isomagnetic rails in the elevators, like maglev trains.
I would guess that the elevators are just really advanced maglev trains,
The elevators seem to run on a kinda gumball track. Probably magnetic? More feasible than the turbolifts on the Discovery. WTF is with all that empty space and where it come from?
Magnetic elevators? :o
In the series the LDS gave up the Navuo pretty easily, I guess they were tricked by Fred and Miller that there was a nuclear leak. The Mormons historically did have security when they settled across the US, they had some noted massacres with both native Americans and non believers. So I'd imagine that they'd have security personnel and facilities for wayward members as they took the big trip. The series mentions court action with alsort of jurisdictional issues but also imagine that some western type believers would get some gunships and try retake the Behemoth at some stage. A Dick Wickfare type would make a great captain, is Timothy Olyphant available?
What i learned today....
Multiple wifes...
Maybe next time, i won't answer the door with "all hail lucifer 🤟🏻", while calmly stroking a black cat...
But the real question, can this Colony be used to dropped on a city. Like on Sydney for example
It kinda looks like the elevators operate like the ones in The Star Trek universe.
OPA till i die.
Oh that ending is he starting to freek out? I think he needs to relax a bit. but then again I was watching this at 2x speed.
On then TV show, I hardly saw any Mormons. If they have the resources to finance their own Generation ship, would that make them a pretty powerful faction in the Expanse universe? I'm surprised this didnt produce some sort of mormon faction or separatist offshoot that would try to get it back by force, or at least retaliate.