If You're an INTROVERT WATCH THIS | Aaron Beverly Championship Speech

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  • If you're an introvert watch this speech from Aaron Beverly given in the 2016 Toastmasters World Championship of Public Speaking. In this World Championship speech, he shares the value of a few words in a time when people think more is better. This is a a speech for introverts given by an introvert
    Before joining Toastmasters International, and competing in the International Speech Contest, Aaron believed that public speaking for introverts and public speaking for quiet people didn't exist. But it doesn't matter if you're an introvert as you'll hear in this Aaron Beverly Toastmasters Speech.
    ⁣⁣⁣⁣⁣0:00 - The Title
    (Note: My title was an exaggerated 57 word title that had to be read twice per contest tradition)
    1:42 - Speech Begins (reason for title explained)
    2:20 - The Quiet Guy Needs to Say More
    3:20 - Story: Austin and the Bus Lady of Doom!
    5:02 - Anecdote: Words Every Parent Wants to Hear
    6:05 - Story: The Girl Alone on the Stage
    8:19 - Conclusion: It's Okay to Be a Quiet Person
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    My name is Aaron Beverly I'm the 2019 World Champion of Public Speaking and I will be your speech mentor. Public speaking and story telling drastically changed my life for the better. I believe that better communication can improve your life and help make this world a better place. The education of a skill that crucial should not be hidden behind ridiculously expensive pay-walls. That's why I dedicate this RUclips Channel to help people improve their Public speaking and communication skills for the best price possible: Free!
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Комментарии • 145

  • @inquisitivemind4193
    @inquisitivemind4193 5 лет назад +10

    I love you so much, Aaron. A million thanks for this.
    As I listen to you, I realized that you have the inner gift in speaking. May your voice be heard more. Dont stop speaking, the world is hungry for your words.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  4 года назад +1

      I really appreciate that. Trust me, I would not stop speaking even if my voice was taken away :)

  • @stephanvillavicencio5679
    @stephanvillavicencio5679 11 месяцев назад +3

    i love it! i am an introvert and proud of it! Thank you, Aaron Beverly, for this great speech, featuring few words but maximal effect! ❤😅🎉

  • @jonisiah5774
    @jonisiah5774 8 лет назад +26

    I was moved to tears. Thank you for sharing such a beautiful message.

  • @pulangpandong
    @pulangpandong 6 лет назад +2

    First time I've seen somebody get laughs per minute before even starting the speech. Genius.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      Thank you kindly. I wish I could say the idea was originally mine, but I got the idea from another Toastmaster by the name of Andy Dooley who used it for one of his district contests.

  • @Satheendra
    @Satheendra 7 лет назад +5

    Being a quiet person and having recently joined Toastmasters, your words were just what I needed to hear, Aaron. Clever speech, brilliant delivery! Wish you all the best for your future endevours! :)

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (extremely late reply) I am glad to hear that. Wishing you well on your future endeavors too.

  • @anartsetsegbayarsaikhan1645
    @anartsetsegbayarsaikhan1645 7 лет назад +8

    This title is awesome. Creativity mixed with humour ... it was priceless. Your speech made my day!

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (extremely late reply) Thank you very much for the kind words. Glad to know it made your day those years ago 🙂

  • @periclesdasilva5973
    @periclesdasilva5973 2 года назад +1

    Thanks. You can change the world. The ability to speak is a powerful gift. Every good and perfect gift comes from the Father of Lights (ultimately). The best gift ever given to mankind is the Living Word Which became flesh and died for us so that we might have everlasting life. When we wait on His love, our fears our cast away and we gain control over ourselves. Thus our voice will have a wonderful influence on those who hear us. Blessings

  • @maharafaibrahimacoulibaly298
    @maharafaibrahimacoulibaly298 7 лет назад +2

    Great ! Absolutely great !

  • @edwardtabokagwebu1636
    @edwardtabokagwebu1636 7 лет назад +2

    This was inspirational and eye opening.

  • @GinaAkao
    @GinaAkao Год назад

    Sublime speech.

  • @shankartamang3873
    @shankartamang3873 7 лет назад +1

    it was an awesome speech. i really was emotional and every words were in my mind as a picture while you were talking about it .

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (sorry, late reply 🙂) Thank you so much. I am glad to know that you resonated with this speech so much. Thank you for watching.

  • @kashifjamil5499
    @kashifjamil5499 7 лет назад +9

    Yes this did leave a lasting memory :)

    • @mosesndisa7027
      @mosesndisa7027 5 лет назад +1

      Kashif Jamil I still remember this speech to this day and I watched it ages ago

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (very late reply) Thank you. I'm happy to know I achieved my goal 😆

  • @hruday1982
    @hruday1982 7 лет назад +1

    What a wonderful speech!! I loved each words and especially the 57 words of the title of the speech:)

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (sorry, late reply 🙂) The title was definitely the highlight, so I'm not mad about that 😆

  • @FinStroke
    @FinStroke 7 лет назад +1

    Your message resounded with this quiet person,thanks!

  • @adrianaserna9336
    @adrianaserna9336 7 лет назад +1

    Brilliant!!!! Well done.

  • @KevinPreciado
    @KevinPreciado 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you for sharing your video. It is amazingly inspiring

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (extremely late reply) My pleasure to share it. Glad that it inspired you.

  • @pennyvieau2706
    @pennyvieau2706 7 лет назад

    Yes, I loved it. Very motivating. I just started in Toastmasters and I love it. Coming up with speeches is the hard part.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад

      Awesome! Glad to hear it. My advice is just start by talking about yourself.

  • @grimoire800
    @grimoire800 5 лет назад +1

    your amazing I wanna be taught by you Aaron your a great inspiration to us all

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (bit late of a reply 🙂) Thank you for taking the time to watch. I do plan to release more regular content now that I hope can help you.

  • @MuhammadAli-xt7mn
    @MuhammadAli-xt7mn 7 лет назад +2

    This is a such a motivating speech. Love it.... :)

  • @mredawardani2311
    @mredawardani2311 5 лет назад +1

    I love this guy

  • @tawakaltogunjobi4099
    @tawakaltogunjobi4099 2 года назад +2

    This really touched me, i have heard words that have broken me from closed families, friends, colleagues and a boss. and I have also heard little words from strangers that stick with me, that motivate me, that keeps growing and struggling to become the better part of me. Thanks, Aaron, I just stumbled upon your videos but they are inspiring me and motivating me. God bless you.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  2 года назад

      Thank you for your kind words, Tawakalt. I am very glad to hear that this speech touched you. The reason why I choose to do what I do and make the videos I make is because I know there are others out there like me who need to hear it like I did in the past.

  • @juliesimonmac
    @juliesimonmac 7 лет назад

    Very well done!! Whew, I'm glad I've stumbled into your video, I was able to write my speech for my icebreaker.. that is, in two weeks!!
    Oh by the way, "very well done" is understatement, not even close! Way awesome!

  • @triciamesko3984
    @triciamesko3984 8 лет назад +2

    Great message. Amazing performance. 'Nuff said!

  • @84solmaz
    @84solmaz 7 лет назад +2

    beautiful speech! Great job! I specifically love the title of your speech...smart choice.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      Very late to the reply, but thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed the speech.

  • @kevinnyafwa1375
    @kevinnyafwa1375 7 лет назад +1

    Simply the best

  • @DeeDoo123456
    @DeeDoo123456 7 лет назад +1

    Powerful speech, it's the quality and not the quantity of our words that matter.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (extremely late reply) Yes I'm glad to know that you understood the message here.

  • @jerrycaleb5805
    @jerrycaleb5805 7 лет назад +2

    awesome speech. great message. everybody asks me to speak a lot, but now I'll tell them this that, it is not how much you speak, it is what you speak

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (extremely late reply) Thank you, Jerry. Indeed, I rather be efficient with my words that way when I do say something, people will know that it's quality.

  • @deslozada
    @deslozada 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you Aaron. I resonate so much with your story. All throughout my life, others would tell me to talk more, say more, be more outgoing, and so on. I seemed to find this video at the right time, as I'm slowing starting to accept that I'm naturally quiet. I've been in Toastmasters for about a year and a half now, and it is challenging at times, but I do sense the feeling of confidence increasing gradually. I can now refer back to this speech and remember that even though a person is quiet, being a great speaker is absolutely possible. Thank you for your inspiration. You did a wonderful job :)

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад

      Thank you for the kind words Desiree. One thing that truly surprised me was the amount of people who felt the same way as I did. I am very glad to have given this speech and that you could connect with it.

  • @sandeepisamazingg9326
    @sandeepisamazingg9326 7 лет назад +1

    Amazing speech Aaron! Loved every bit of it! I'm a Toastmaster too and I hope I learn to speak with the grace and confidence you posses! Keep it up! Lots of love from India!

  • @dannicordovababik7732
    @dannicordovababik7732 8 лет назад +6

    Aaron, I was there to enjoy and be moved by your speech. A truly memorable presentation, and I very much appreciate you sharing it! Thank you!

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  8 лет назад +4

      Danni I am very glad that you connected with this speech. Thank you for your words.

    • @cillae8119
      @cillae8119 6 лет назад

      Yes

  • @nf6386
    @nf6386 7 лет назад +1

    Gold. Thanks Aaron, I will make sure everyone in my club watches this clip to see how it should be done.

  • @Elostora1999
    @Elostora1999 7 лет назад +1

    Great job Aaron!

  • @joytekb
    @joytekb 7 лет назад +2

    Great speech!

  • @terenceyoung-thetimeisnow
    @terenceyoung-thetimeisnow 7 лет назад +1

    Nice job Aaron. Well done!!

  • @wolverine2604
    @wolverine2604 7 лет назад +2

    Great speech. I'm a very quiet person, yet I want to become more influential. I am going to practice speaking to be able to speak like you do Aaron.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +1

      Hello Hung thank you. I am glad I can be an inspiration to you. It just takes practice and patience. Keep finding those who inspire you and learn from them as I have and still do.

  • @oaoaoamayday
    @oaoaoamayday 7 лет назад +1

    Wow, I love your speech. Several stories made up a whole speech and each of them was related to your topic. Your pause and stress are so appropriate that can really trigger the thinking!

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (extremely late reply) Thank you for the insight, Fei. I am glad that you liked the speech. All the elements you mentioned were definitely planned so that it could have maximum effect.

    • @feixie8503
      @feixie8503 3 года назад +1

      @@publicspeakingmentor Thank you for your kindness to reply to each of the posts! And this response gave me another chance to retrieve the memory of watching it three years ago! I have not graduated from university then! Anyway, thank you again for bringing us such a marvelous speech! Hope you all good! Stay safe!

  • @Nurythepoodle
    @Nurythepoodle 7 лет назад

    I was at the convention so I already heard your speech live. But watching this here has given me the chills all over again! Great poise, humor, and inspiration! Amazing job!

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад

      Many thanks...btw did you compete as well this year in the semi finals? Your name seems very familiar.

    • @Nurythepoodle
      @Nurythepoodle 7 лет назад

      Yes! I was in Semi final group #3, the same group as Elliot Eddie :) Also we are friends on Facebook so maybe that's why my name looks familiar!

  • @VictorFursov
    @VictorFursov 7 лет назад +2

    Thank you for Video! Best greetings from Toastmasters Ukraine!

  • @mjfor-short4844
    @mjfor-short4844 7 лет назад

    That was awesome! Really.

  • @SylviaBaffour
    @SylviaBaffour 7 лет назад +9

    Wow Aaron (not sure if you remember me from competing in Malaysia), an incredible performance clearly not fully rewarded by the "speaking gods" but I digress. The bottom line is, you presented a simple yet powerfully memorable message that no one who's heard it will soon forget. Very well done on your unique approach and outstanding presentation. Bravo!!

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +3

      WOW hey Sylvia! Long time no see. I definitely do remember you from KL and your story that you shared about your meeting with Maya Angelou. Sorry for taking so long to reply. I hope everything has been good with you.

    • @SylviaBaffour
      @SylviaBaffour 7 лет назад +2

      Hi Aaron, great to hear from you. All is well with me and I hope the same with you. Hopefully, our paths will cross again in the near future. Cheers for now!

  • @ye_da
    @ye_da 7 лет назад +1

    His speech was the best!

  • @DPNavigator
    @DPNavigator 6 лет назад +1

    Hey Aaron It was a pleasure meeting you at the Toastmasters yesterday (6/26/18). Once again this was a great speech 🗨. I can relate to this about being a quiet person back when I was growing 👆. 👍

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад +1

      (bit late of a reply 🙂) Thanks Darren. Hope you are well during these crazy times.

    • @DPNavigator
      @DPNavigator 3 года назад

      @@publicspeakingmentor No problem bro!

  • @jensenex9270
    @jensenex9270 7 лет назад +13

    Amazing speech Aoran ! Thanks for the sharing ! I'm having my Area humorous speech contest this weekend. Your speech motivated me 😀

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +1

      Awesome! Glad I could help. Good Luck!

    • @jensenex9270
      @jensenex9270 7 лет назад

      ***** Thanks a lot but unfortunately I got time disqualified for my speech 😥.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +4

      Aw man!...Well think of it like this, it was a few extra seconds of awesome 😀....but seriously these are the growing pains of the contest that everyone goes through . Hopefully you can take those lessons learned this time and apply them in the international contest next year. Just keep going.

    • @jensenex9270
      @jensenex9270 7 лет назад +1

      ***** Yea I was actually speaking according to what I've prepared but all of sudden a few amazing words pop up in my mind so I just spoke it out... but those few words got me disqualified of over time ..sigh. Well thanks a lot for your reply 👍😀. I'm learning how to keep track of my time now by having a gaol to complete my speech within 6-7 minutes.

  • @Studeo22MediaGroup
    @Studeo22MediaGroup 7 лет назад +1

    This was awesome AB

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (extremely late reply) Thank you very much. Glad you enjoyed it.

  • @pattho9427
    @pattho9427 7 лет назад +6

    Yo Aaron! Put Second Place in your title proudly Bro! This speech was AMAZING and many would agree good enough to have won first place!

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +2

      Many thanks Patrick! I do proudly wear that title.

    • @omeibongos7185
      @omeibongos7185 4 года назад

      And today he is the World Champion of Public Speaking. I am beyond inspired. Well done, Aaron 🙌🏾🙌🏾

  • @tanzuwei8306
    @tanzuwei8306 2 года назад +1

    Doing an experiment here. I leave this comment here to check back whether if I remember this content after a few months or years. Interesting... :)

  • @talessp6411
    @talessp6411 7 лет назад +1

    Really nice!

  • @mimosakhoo
    @mimosakhoo 7 лет назад +6

    That is really good speech. I'm a quite person too and don't speak much.

    • @pattho9427
      @pattho9427 7 лет назад +2

      May I be the first to encourage you to join Toastmasters? It is a safe place to grow: www.toastmasters.org/ www.toastmasters.org/Find-a-Club

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      I echo this....(although I'm extremely late 🙂)

  • @dz-ir8hf
    @dz-ir8hf 7 лет назад

    inspiring ..

  • @cherrypaulse3346
    @cherrypaulse3346 11 месяцев назад

    Pragtig 😊

  • @oliverolonan2556
    @oliverolonan2556 6 лет назад

    Very profound. I think he deserves 1st place

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад +1

      (sorry, late reply 🙂) Thank you for the kind words. The contest is subjective in the end, I was thankful for the 2nd place win then. I did come back and win it 3 years after this though.

  • @SajidhMarikkar
    @SajidhMarikkar 2 года назад +1

    Hi TM Aaron, thank you for your videos. In one of your videos you recommended a particular mic. Can you remind me of that mic please

  • @doggiedoge
    @doggiedoge 5 лет назад +2

    "Leave a lasting memory using as few words as possible and strive with every fiber of your being to avoid being the type of person who rambles on and on with no end in sight more likely than not causing more listeners to sit and think of themselves, oh my goodness can somebody please make this stop." -57word title

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      😆😆 It was actually supposed to be "most listeners" but I think the contest chair deserved a pass.

  • @henniealyssagutierrez5686
    @henniealyssagutierrez5686 7 лет назад +5

    You enjoyed that, didn't you? Lol!

  • @ProfLambertonCCV
    @ProfLambertonCCV 7 лет назад +2

    Did you take down the video of your practice session for this speech? I am a teacher and had posted both your practice version and competition version for my class, but now the practice version is private. Could you please set it as unlisted or post a link to it here? Thank you.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +2

      Sure thing. I had assumed no one would be interested once the final version was up. I can definitely put it back up.

  • @hpapc686
    @hpapc686 2 года назад +1

    How can he can read that with a straight face.. oh... he's an Indian man(Dad)

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  2 года назад +1

      Haha...he was required to read that with a straight face to not appear to favor me or the speech over the other contestants. However, I will say is straight delivery actually made it better in my opinion. :)

  • @Nurythepoodle
    @Nurythepoodle 7 лет назад

    BTW, how much time did you hit? It looks to me that you hit very close to 7:30! You managed the time very calmly as well!

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +1

      Haha it wasn't as bad as it seemed. I clocked in around 7:13. I just stayed on stage so long that it seemed like it was really close. In all of my practices that is around the time I always finished (and I practiced with pauses and laughter in mind) so I knew I had enough time.

    • @Nurythepoodle
      @Nurythepoodle 7 лет назад

      Wow You are a pro! I didn't give my speech enough breathing room when I practiced, so I had to skip one paragraph on the spot just to finish on time. Still, I hit around 7:23 LOL

  • @AidanChinSungLing
    @AidanChinSungLing 7 лет назад +2

    0:47 That facial expression xD

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад +1

      (extremely late reply) 😂 yes he was very much surprised by the reaction. And his relief when the title was done I found funny too.

    • @AidanChinSungLing
      @AidanChinSungLing 3 года назад

      @@publicspeakingmentor oh man, you just brought me back to rewatch this. So good!

  • @maddiehouser3462
    @maddiehouser3462 7 лет назад

    Hello, I'm Maddie. I am having a really hard time trying to get confident in front of a high school crowd. Especially because they're my age, and it's the whole school. How do I get more relaxed on stage?

    • @pattho9427
      @pattho9427 7 лет назад

      Start by #1 Practice, #2 Practice in front of a mirror and giving yourself eye contact, #3 Practice in front of your family, friends and pets. Those closest to you tend to be the toughest crowd. If you can do it in front of them, the HS crowd will be a piece of cake.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад

      Hi Maddie. Firstly sorry for reading this so late. I hope that your presentation went well. However everything that Patrick stated is absolutely correct. I will add that it is very beneficial to audio and video record yourself speaking and listen/watch to the recording. This helps you identify what you need to work on personally and it also helps you internalize/memorize your speech just like your favorite songs.

  • @paulartale4243
    @paulartale4243 6 лет назад +1

    did toastmasters give you permission to post this? I would love to post my semi final speech online

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      Hi Paul (bit late of a reply so sorry if you already have your answer) They did give us permission to post it, they just asked us to not monetize it. We signed a document during the finals briefing.

  • @forUall
    @forUall 7 лет назад +1

    Hey Aaron give some tips to be a public speaker

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +1

      I am working on being more active on RUclips. Please stay tuned.

  • @prashantpant2876
    @prashantpant2876 7 лет назад

    Was this an impromptu speech?

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад +1

      No this was for the World Championship of Public Speaking. It is a 6 round contest every year where participants prepare speeches with a time limit of 5 - 7 minutes long.

  • @XX-tq1oe
    @XX-tq1oe 7 лет назад

    u got disqualified that's messed up.
    you could've been world champion with that speech
    shame. but that's life.
    chin up . next year you'll do it.
    I believe in you.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  7 лет назад

      I wasn't disqualified I won 2nd place. Seems like I was up there too long but from start to finish I was within time.

  • @user-ww4jx9fe7p
    @user-ww4jx9fe7p 7 лет назад +1

    I like you.

  • @grimoire800
    @grimoire800 5 лет назад +1

    sad you became 2nd place because of the title even thou that was the subject of it all

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  4 года назад

      Hi Derick, there is no way for sure knowing why I was placed second but I am extremely confident that it was not due to the title. In fact had I not had that title, I doubt I would have placed 2nd. Sometimes the difference between first and second is only a matter of luck and subjection.

  • @XX-tq1oe
    @XX-tq1oe 7 лет назад

    oh I see . btw the man who introduced you on stage seemed furious due to the length of the speech title.
    he needs to be sacked
    good luck next year.

    • @prudvinathmalepati3322
      @prudvinathmalepati3322 7 лет назад +2

      His speech title is really funny and if the contest chair had introduced him normally, the audience would have been carried away by it. So, I think the chair has intentionally increased the pace of his words to avoid the halo effect in audience's mind. Anyway, the speaker gave a simple message with an effective delivery style..

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (Extremely late reply) Thank you for the comment. I never thought about him reading the title for that reason. That's a good insight. Appreciate the kind words.

    • @publicspeakingmentor
      @publicspeakingmentor  3 года назад

      (Extremely late reply) In honesty, it was likely because he didn't want the audience to react in the middle of it the way they did. Behind the scenes he was always kind spirited about it.