Touring Alfa Romeo's Secret Vault of Never Released Cars/Engines/Prototypes, ft. Dino DC
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The red 155 next to the 164 Procar is a 155 GTA, 2.0 16v turbo. 164 Procar was capable of 300+km/h and was almost a f1 car in a 164 shell. There is some footage on youtube about it. It sounds mental.
That row with the 155GTA, 164 Procar and late 155 DTM would make a mighty fine setup for my dream garage..
The Carabo or louvre-car is based on a tipo 33 Stradale, it's a design study. There is only one. Imagine the price on it.. many multimillion cars in the museum there. Those pre-war 6c and 8c models were the top of the line what money could buy in those days. 180-200km/h was possible if you dared..
Amazing history if you look at it. Shame about the last 30 years they've been struggling to stay alive. Hope the future is good for them.
Props to Dino for being fluent in Italian, Japanese and English! Being able to translate on the fly for all of these garage, factory and museum tours for Larry and all of us!
Alfa Romeo museum is on my to do list for this year!
Despite being a 90s kid and growing up with all the same video game JDM hero cars like the rest of my generation, the more I've gotten into cars and into the history the more I've fallen in love with classic Alfa's and Lancia's to the point that my dream garage would have an Aurelia B24S and an Alfaholic GTA-R with their timeless style. This museum was already on my bucket list and I can't wait to see the vault cars I'd probably never get to see otherwise, so thanks Larry and Dino.
B20GT Outlaw for me
It was a dream come true for me to visit the Nissan DNA museum , it will probably be a bigger dream to visit the alfa museum.
I'd suggest to look into some of the other countries with car making history too, but I mean more like the strange experimental stuff going on. Even a sedate brand like Volvo has made some mindblowing stuff at times, like the 850 'T-röd' sort of things. It's just an example, but picture a partially carbon kevlar racecar Volvo 850 station wagon type thing with a huge turbocharger forcefeeding raw methanol mix to I think it was a 2.3l 5cylinder or something to get like 800+HP in it's "street trim". I don't know what adjectives to use but whacktastic is fairly on point. I'm a 90s kid too I guess, I grew up part in Italy, part in Sweden, and to round off I was married to a Japanese girl and have spent time there too, so I've seen a lot of funky things. Many JDM rocketships are virtually unknown outside Japan, some really sleeper like things, street legal basically racecars that were never exported...
By halfway in, I was thinking how much was missing from your understanding... and I mean so very much.
You walked by cars that are worth $10 - $20 Million, or perhaps more, but then acted amazed by the mundane. A
1939 Alfa Romeo 8C 2900B Lungo Spider was the most expensive pre-war car when it sold for nearly $20 million in 2016. The 33 Stadale and the prototype analysis cars are one-offs, priceless.
Thanks for taking us along even if you are exhausted. The museum has some interesting history in it.
Love the Group C car and the 164!! The 164 can do over 360kmh in a road legal car from the 90s, what a machine!!
The 155 was my favorite race car in gran turismo 2
I love it! Slowly getting into Alfa Romeo's. Trying to learn everything I can about them. doing a lot of sim race builds. I love the sound of the engines.
An american learning about Alfa Romeo’s - this is hilarious! 😊
My favourite car museum bar none, been there twice. But I’ve never been able to get into the vault! Thank You!!
Ferrari's first V12 in his first car was a 1.5L V12 designed by Colombo...the 125 S is in the Peterson, in the basement...everyone should see it
Super grateful to have seen an Alfa Romeo Montreal in person here in Adelaide (Australia), such a beautiful car. Wish I took more photos and videos of it. 02:43
That edit at the end encapsulates everything I love about cars without saying a word
My Mum and Dad had an Alpha Sud when I was a kid and one of the last cars my Dad owned was an Alpha T Spark Coupe so thank you for sharing this video and bringing back so many memories for me.
Great video! I bought a 80's Alfa Milano as my first car in high school in 2001. It was a super cool car, handled amazingly but was so slow. I loved watching those 80's and 90's boxy touring cars race on tv growing up.
The stories that come with so many of these cars are really what makes them special. Love this episode.
Everybody needs an Alfa Romeo in their life :)
Larry is living my dream, being immersed in cars and talking the culture is dreamworthy
Appreciate videos like this 👍
maybe,they´re not the most reliable cars,but no one can make cars look that good and sound better than italians.Bertone,Pinninfarina,Ghia,Carrozzeria Touring,etc,etc.Also,we can speak too about their bikes,like the Ducati 916...thanks from Spain to Larry,Dino and the crew for this amazing piece¡
Alpha Romeo have produced some of the most beautiful cars in the world and some of the most outrageous. Thank you Larry for the tour 😁👍🏻
Alfa 🙄
LOL! HAHAHAHAHAH ARE YOU SERIOUS ?
Alpha Romereo
Yes Larry , Alfa’s have been in North America for awhile, thats what Dustin Hoffman drove in the movie “The Graduate “
Alfa 8c engine developed by both Ferrari & Maserati (F136 YC V8) and 4.7L version was used in Maserati Quattroporte/GranTurismo models
I thought ferrari owned maserarti and fiat
@@connoisseuroftigolbitts The Maserati and Alfa Romeo Group owned by Fiat Group. The Maserati and Alfa Romeo group, under FIAT Group, started in 2005, when Maserati was split off from Ferrari. Ferrari was owned by Fiat from 1963 to 2014 not the other way around.
@@drunkdenny ahh thank you
Awesome Larry that you shared this visit with us man ,totaly fn Awesome 👌
It's all about the handling, I've had 5 Alfas starting with an Alfetta GT and ending with a GTV , had minimal mechanical issues and loads of fun on twisty roads.
Thank you for video brother 💙🔥🤘🏿
Love love this!
Glad youre finally discovering (and helping other Americans as well) the wonderful world of Italian cars, Larry...theres a reason they are so popular in Japan amongst the cognoscenti ;) many of your favorite Japanese cars were directly inspired by Italian cars that came first
Those 155 v6 engines sound sooo good. Yeah they are the best sounding v6.
That opening made you look like every uncle asleep at a family party. 😂
The 164 Procar was Bernie Ecclestone trying to revive the Procar series that used to run with F1 at the end of 70s beginning of 80s with the BMW M1s prepared by Ron Dennis. Then Bernie changed his mind.
Also, the 2 engined car, one for each wheel. That is an innovative way to do torque vectoring
Man the 164 is brutal just the meat on them tires alone🤤
I'm not sure how you do it. My face would be stuck in a permanent smile from all the ridiculous spots you get to check out lol. Thanks for bringing us along for the ride.
24:45 - As James May would say, I'm getting a fizzy feeling in my pants.
Those lines of an Alfa! It's amazing.
Hat off to Larry Chen top bloke top job fantastic uploads 😊 cheers Larry all the best mate
i saw dino's coverage this morning , i even interrupted my sleep and i started to watch your coverage but fell asleep and now have watched it 👍👍👍
Epic! I'll never get to travel there, so thank you a ton!
GREAT Vlog !! .......Simply SUPERB !! ............. Bless You & You're Team ........PEACE
Museum was cool.
Storage space was insane.
Could spend days in there.
Some of the most important and beautiful looking cars in the world ❤
Inboard rear disc brakes were all the rage on the Jaguar's, the hot rods nearly every custom car in the 60s...
I was just there last summer. I went to Milan just to see the storica museum as recommended from my Alfa facebook group. It’s amazing.
I bet that 2.1 ltr twin turbo sounds amazing. 640 hp. BALLS
That silver Alfetta sedan!
Perfecto 👌
This one was special, and that is saying something, as all of your productions are insanely cool
I’m a huge JDM fan but also a huge Alfisti. Without a doubt most Japanese manufacturers took styling cues from the Italians.
Also to note many of the well known Japanese technologies (like VTEC) were taken from Alfa Rome.
Of course Honda made it more reliable but regardless many people do not give credit where it is due.
Larry I love your factory, garage, and museum tour you can see your passion for all the cars. More videos like this. ;) And this museum has just become a must-see for me :)
Watching this channel helps calm me down. Must be the vibes ✌🏽
Amazing episode.
Awesome video, when I landed in Milan after seeing you guys in Tokyo I wanted to visit the museum but unfortunately I was too jet-lagged.
By the way the red 155 touring car in the basement (34:54) is a GTA which uses the Delta Integrale drivetrain, it had a short but successful career.
After this epic episode, you have to find me Saab museum Larry
Last summer I visited both Ferrari museums Modena, Lamborghini museum and factory Bologna, Ducati, BMW Munchen museum, Mercedes Stuttgart museum, Porsche Stuttgart museum and Pagani. Alfa Romeo museum in Milano was the most impressive.
Any video game nostalgia that's come to mind with the DTM Alfa Romeo. Gran Turismo 4 is the one. Winning the European Event La Fiesta Italiano.
@LarryChenPhoto sounded like you where going to say what are thoooooose!!!! when you saw the rims lmao... they where cool
Thanks for this, honestly!
Lots of the race cars are RHD because circuits in Europe are clockwise, so you sit in the inside of corners. Easier to place the car on the apex
39:06 First 4C press cars had those headlights and they got brutal critic from journalists. They changed them before customer delivered cars.
41:00 Wow, Alfa’s shooting brake is not the best, I love it still. :D
The Monteal 2.6ltr was a detuned 3ltr F1 engine and with the right exhaust sounded like a screaming formula 1 car.
If you owned a Sud you had to become a mechanic and learn how to adjust the hand brake or you would need to get it seviced every month.
Their Tippo 158/9 won 47 races from 54 starts!!!
When they released the 155 gta race car apparently the plan wash to drive it accross the stage of a famous historic exhibition hall, the car had a stutter on start up and ripped up a period carpet worth thousands of dollars!!!
The stories go on for ever, such a rich history and so many are my favorites.
I recently started driving an alfa romeo giulietta, coming from a VW it is not as solid of a car but the sound, driving experience, big brembo brakes, stiff suspension and looks makes up for all, I don't think there is a more enjoyable hatchback in that price range and I am still very happy with the car
The 155 says Larini on the side rear window... Larry, you need a 156, its faith 😂😂
Alfa Romeo was the first manufacturer yes from Italy but here in DC that caught my eye as a kid. They will forever be popular to me! That orange Alpha looks like a Dodge a lil lol
That was fun👍
Thats my favourite alfa aswell larry wor kid 155 dtm car is fire 🔥
My grandpa had a Alfa Romeo in Oregon in the 80's. When he passed my mom got it. My sister and I used it as a play car and filled it up with water in the gas tank. We were like 5 and six. My mom was so mad. Do not remember model but it kinda looked like a 80"s bmw.
Can't believe you didn't show more of the 155. Originally they had straight exhaust pipes, but because the firing order of the v6 was very odd they went above the allowed decibel range.
So Alfa Romeo installed the exhaust system that faced upwards.
Unfortunately the rivals figured out that if you push a little from the back (push and shove was allowed back then) that you can restrict the exhaust gas coming out and make the car useless lol.
My favourite Alfa tho by miles
"We're so jetlagged flying from LA to Milan."
* chuckles in Australian *
The tailgate light on the Free Time is called a heckblende.
Dude liked the Alfasud.... Wait til you see the sprint veloce.
ALFISTI 🍀❤
You can't be a true petrolhead until you've owned an Alfa Romeo - Jeremy Clarkson
I want to see more Italian cars.
It's a nice interesting change
29:00 reminds me of the Yamaha OX99-11
The beautiful Carabo looks like a classic anime car to me.
You never call yourself a true petrolhead unless you have owned an Alfa .❤
Larry needs to watch "The Graduate". lol
I haven't watched the full video yet, but I swear to God Larry, if you don't capture and dedicate a full at least 5 minutes to the 33 Stradale, I'm going to snap 😵💫😤😅 literally one of, if not thee most gorgeous Italian cars ever produced in history, period, and I do mean period, regardless of Lamborghini, Ferrari, Alfa, Lancia, whoever, the 33 Stradale is absolutely stunning.... you better have captured it (and no, not the remake, the original, hopefully the magnesium bodied one)
Group C cars, it's endurance precursors and the current prototype classes, are RHD drive, as all endurance circuits run in a clockwise direction. The driver has a better view of the corner apex from the RHS driving position. They can see around the frontend wheel arch better.
Castagna at 11.25 means chestnut in Italian and if you have ever opened a chestnut when its nearly ripe still on the tree all those windows resemble the chestnuts in the pod as to speak.
Old school Alfas are so cool and iconic..
proud to be italian, VIVA LA MIA ITALIA
I love the multiple mechanical engineering departments a lot of European countries took, like Sweden and Husqvarna. Their museum in the aforementioned city has missile launchers to sewing machines, oh and some significant motorcycles.
That 2 motor alfa is so cool. I wonder if you detuned one of them, how well it would do on smaller ovals back then.
Not too crazy about modern Alphas, but the 70s Alphas are very easy on the eyes. That Montreal is to die for.
It’s fun to see you guys realize that most of the 70’s japanese cars you worship are actually copies of Italian prototypes and low volume production.
3:31 There are a couple of Montreals in Vancouver…sounds nice. Understated…not loud like American muscle.
nice
Alfa Romeo 🇮🇹❤
By 1938 electric starters were available. The slot is somewhat vestigial, but also for emergencies. A Triumph TR3 also has that grill opening. I have no idea why you would crank start vs. push start!?
Honestly i can say this for Alfa Romeo appreciate their liveries in the time of Formula 1 but seeing this really want to support them with cars as well
I really want to see the weird and experimental things they do
A lot of old cars had electric starters with crank handle as a backup
I want to see the Montreal at the next Montreal Grand Prix lol
In the neighbourhood i grew up as a kid, we had people stand out with an Alfa 156, a Citroen 2CV 4x4 and this crisp bmw 2002 around the corner which sat way too much. Wonder what happened to those
Wait until you see the tipo 33 definitely my dream alfa
I think a lot of cars back in the day did have electric starters, but kept the crank port at the front incase the starter motor failed.
14:38 the crank was an option if the electric starter didnt work , even the first beatle got that option , 28:25 right and drive normal for the Le mans cars, the pits are at the the right, is faster and safer to change drivers
Discbrakes on the engine, just like the Citroen DS in the sixties. the right solution if you do not want the weight at the suspension.
Brilliant thanks Larry, in the UK your not classed as a car lover petrol head unless you have owned an Alfa as usually all models are beautiful but can be unreliable , they are far more reliable now another reason was as a brand they were 1 of the very worst for depriciation. Would love to have seen it there was a discovalante in the museum, Discovalante.was an 8C that went to touring for 1 of their coach built bodies. Alfa with quite a few of their cars were built and manufactured at Design houses contract car makers such as Bertone.
I grew up in the 70's, now in those days family's were big. 7 kids in my family. Everyone had big practical cars. Alfa Romero and other European cars were owned by wealthy people to drive on weekends. Plus they rotted out in the north east.
Why didn't the Montreal didn't succeed in the US? It cost more than a 911 back in that time. Group C cars were RHD because most turns in the old Le Mans were right turns, so it provided a lateral biased weight distribution and a better view angle for the drivers.
The twin engine race cars are amazing, must be the first car with torque vectored steering 😂