I am almost clueless about Lord of the Rings, but it’s interesting how salient and reflective this is of current events. And I think it’s a very reasonable, nuanced take.
If there's anything I can say positive about the rings of power TV series is that they do actually dig into why some people may wanna join the Shadow and fight for Sauron and it gets to display a bit more of the diversity but, yes, much context lost in the films though the vibes ❤ 😝
That's a good point. We have loads of problems with rings of power, but trying to present the other side for joining Sauron isn't a bad idea necessarily. -E
Thank you. There's a lot more on the spectrum thinking than we might care for. The oppression of the Dunlendings of course doesn't justify their siding with Saruman. But they wouldn't need to do that if they had been given equal rights in the first place. -E
Another good example of the less "clear-cut" sides of the heroic factions also relates to the Rohirrim. In Return of the King, there's a scene with Theoden negotiating an agreement with the chief of the "wild men" who live in the forest to the north-east of Minas Tirith. That's how the Rohirrim reach the Pelennor fields in the middle of the siege. Gan-buri-gan (or however it's written, didn't read LotR in English) basically sets demands that asks the Rohirrim to leave him and his people alone and "not hunt them more like animals", those guys actually are given the forest they live in officially at the end of the war of the ring, so for now they made out okay.
Yeah for sure. The idea that the Rohirrim wouldn't also be a negative effect on their neighbours is a contentious idea. They're a warrior culture of note; of course they're going to do some heinous stuff. -E
Dunland has some of the best pikemen in middle earth. Rohan has some of the best cavalry. A combined, dunlending/rohirrim culture would be a very powerful military. You have huge well trained blocks of pikes to be anvils and great cavalry to hammer the enemy. -E
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I am almost clueless about Lord of the Rings, but it’s interesting how salient and reflective this is of current events. And I think it’s a very reasonable, nuanced take.
Oh yes sadly😢😢😢
Uhh fascinating topic! We need more analysis like this!!I will watch after work, as a treat! ❤❤🎉
Oh also
Free Palestine!!
Thanks. Hope work is okay
-E
If there's anything I can say positive about the rings of power TV series is that they do actually dig into why some people may wanna join the Shadow and fight for Sauron and it gets to display a bit more of the diversity but, yes, much context lost in the films though the vibes ❤ 😝
That's a good point. We have loads of problems with rings of power, but trying to present the other side for joining Sauron isn't a bad idea necessarily.
-E
Very insightful, have to stop falling into that binary mindset and think dialectically
Thank you. There's a lot more on the spectrum thinking than we might care for. The oppression of the Dunlendings of course doesn't justify their siding with Saruman. But they wouldn't need to do that if they had been given equal rights in the first place.
-E
Another good example of the less "clear-cut" sides of the heroic factions also relates to the Rohirrim. In Return of the King, there's a scene with Theoden negotiating an agreement with the chief of the "wild men" who live in the forest to the north-east of Minas Tirith. That's how the Rohirrim reach the Pelennor fields in the middle of the siege.
Gan-buri-gan (or however it's written, didn't read LotR in English) basically sets demands that asks the Rohirrim to leave him and his people alone and "not hunt them more like animals", those guys actually are given the forest they live in officially at the end of the war of the ring, so for now they made out okay.
Yeah for sure. The idea that the Rohirrim wouldn't also be a negative effect on their neighbours is a contentious idea.
They're a warrior culture of note; of course they're going to do some heinous stuff.
-E
Rohan my problematic faves.
I agree with your suggestion of integration as a solution. Certainly would be interesting to see.
Dunland has some of the best pikemen in middle earth. Rohan has some of the best cavalry.
A combined, dunlending/rohirrim culture would be a very powerful military. You have huge well trained blocks of pikes to be anvils and great cavalry to hammer the enemy.
-E