Operation Cinder - Emperor's Revenge - Star Wars Lore #1.8 DOCUMENTARY
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Wizards and Warriors Channel sci-fi animated documentary video series on the Star Wars galaxy lore will continue with the second episode on the Galactic Civil War, as in the aftermath of the battle of Scarif ( • Battle of Scarif - Gal... ) the rebel alliance got its hand on the Death Star plans uncovering its weakness. After of the destruction of Alderaan, Princess Leia Organa assisted by Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, Chewbacca, R2-D2 and C-3PO brought it to the alliance leadership with Darth Vader, Wilhuff Tarkin and the Death Star in pursuit, which led to the famous battle of Yavin ( • Battle of Yavin - Gala... ). The victory at Yavin allowed the Rebels to find new allies in Mon Calamari and their Mercantile fleet helped them create their fleet. However, the empire was still hunting the Rebels, which led to the battles of Vrogas Vas and Mako-to, where the Empire regained ground ( • Rebels Build a Fleet -... ), forcing the rebels into the Mid Rim Retreat which led to the battle of Hoth in 3 ABY ( • Battle of Hoth - How I... ). In the aftermath of Hoth, the rebels were forced to continue their retreat, but various groups like the 61st Mobile Infantry (Twilight Company) continued fighting the Empire, leading to the strategically important battle of Inyusu Tor on the planet Sullust ( • What Happened between ... ). With these minor victories, the Rebels, who learned that the Emperor is building a new Death Star, had a new opening to attack the Empire, which led to the battle of Endor ( • Battle of Endor - Gala... ). Emperor Palpatine died during the battle of Endor, but he had ordered Operation Cinder beforehand. This operation was emperor's revenge, as he wanted to destroy both the rebels, who killed him and the imperials who failed to protect him. Then infamous Shadow Wing was in charge of portions of this operation and was countered by the Republics Alphabet Squadron and the Barma Battle Group under Hera Syndulla. Their confrontation led to the battles of Pandem Nai, Cerberon and Troithe.
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Writer: Zachary Kelly
Animation: Maksym Dimarov
Narration: OfficiallyDevin ( / officiallydevin )
Editing: Kamran Maharramli
Producer: Nurlan Karimov
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I loved the video. Please let it not be too long before we see your next video on Star Wars. And if you can try to make a series on Star Trek with The War Against the Dominion. That would make a great video series.
Thank you to tell story about iden versio just keep doing to upload new video.
Please upload new video about Hera syindulla storyline including star wars squadron.
Honestly the most interesting part of Star Wars to me is that there are whole civilizations mostly unknown to the Republic/Empire because they're outside of traditional hyperspace lanes. Thinking of how the Chiss fought a whole war of similar scale without the Empire even knowing. It reminds me of Alexander or Rome fighting over Europe/Egypt/Asia, completely unaware of entire civilizations of similar scale in China, India, or Subsaharan Africa.
Rome and China were aware of each other and knew they exist.
Ya, they all knew about each other. Alexander invaded india.
The chiss are not even a 16th the size of the empire what do you mean
interesting that when rome was fighting its wars mesoamerica was at war and china too
@@batuhaninaltekin6124 yeah, but because of the vast distance from one another. Both nations couldn't establish any form a diplomatic relationships until the time of the eastern Roman empire.
Hope to see the Thrawn campaigns someday.
That part also shows a different kind of pettiness from Palpatine's part.
We won't as the Thrawn campaigns aren't apart of the Disney canon
Yes I hope so too, way more interesting than Disney canon. Hopefully after they finish with Disney canon they'll explore the Legends stuff too.
@@bluebubbadog2080They are coming in the Ashoka show, same with c’baoth
@@RomanumChristum But in what butchered form.
@@Psycorde fair point
I've done the math, according to the Disney timeline, the empire fell in little over a 1 after the battle of endor. The empire had 25,000 star destroyers and of these, half went missing over the course of the year (presumably to join the first order). That leaves 12,500 SDs that the rebels must destroy or capture to defeat the empire. If they defeated the empire in a year like Disney canon says, then they had to have destroyed or captured an average of 34 SDs PER DAY. That is just too much for the rebellion to take down in a single year. This is why the legends timeline makes more sense, it took 30 years for the empire to fall and the empire had split up into different warlord factions
With the power of terrible writing, all things are possible.
With supply chains destroyed, some ISDs probably destroyed themselves. We also see in Squadrons that rogue ISDs attacked other warlords and were destroyed by other Imperials. How many of these ISDs were caught in Cinder death rays?
@user-yq9im9dk9z if supply chains are so easily destroyed, then the empire would have fallen a long time ago, clearly its not the case
And supply chains wouldn't just disintegrate overnight because the emperor is dead, especially since the empire reminded relatively united in the Disney timeline
Which why Legends timeline of galactic civil war raging on for another 15 years after Endor and massive military might of the empire being whittled down in infighting between the imperial warlords, remnants and actual empire and between it and new republic over those years m,akes for a much better explanation as to where those assets disappeared to.
The Emperor. A guy who set up multiple ways and chances to take over the galaxy but kept screwing the pooch at each turn. Usually intentionally. I think the first time (of three shown) when his own force lightning was reflected back onto himself it fried something in his brain.
So you’re telling me that there is a Lonestar in canon? Does he have the schwartz?
A true man of culture, I see
It’s the Lodestar not Lonestar but I approve of the culture
No but he does have a good supply of raspberry jam
@@jarrodbright5231 only 1 man would dare give the raspberry! LONESTARRR!!!!
I hear he has the Ring… And it would appear his Schwartz is as big as MINE!
After the Battle of Jakku and the Galactic Concordance, what's next for Star Wars on this channel? Will it be about the Clones Wars? I would love to hear about the Clones Wars!
Could be. THe High Republic novels would also be good ones to cover. Post Jakku there aren't really too many battles to cover. Only real one would be how the Mandalorians re-took Mandalore.
@@tonyjake8931 Speaking of mandalorians, has anyone ever heard of the mandalorian wars?
@@kemorashaadmorgan4322 yeah and what if the mandalorians won the mandalorian war before jedi like Reven got involved.
I read Alphabet squadron a year ago, but I believe Chass and Nath weren't at Endor. Wyl Was with riot squadron but Chass Wanted to be there and didnt get the chance. It's an important part of her character in the Story
You guys should consider doing the EU/legends timeline. You could specify it an alternative timeline also to not confuse new viewers who don't know about it.
Indeed. They also might want to start with say the Kotor Era or the Yuuzhan Vong War instead of starting with the Galactic Civil War.
It's a longer timeline but it's arguably superior to the Disney timeline
@@bluebubbadog2080 I personally like it more. Especially the post return of the Jedi timeline. The Kyle Katarn story and Rogue Squadron novels and comics and the legacy comics with Darth Krayt especially being my favorites.
@@bluebubbadog2080 Respectfully, I say it's better than the Disney Timeline, no contest.
@@bluebubbadog2080 It's objectively better. There's no argument to be had on the matter.
Its so cool you got Tech from The Bad Batch to narrate this documentary 👍
No, this definitely not narrated by Dee Bradley Baker 😭, this video narrated by official Devin who narrated videos more than one RUclips channel
Gotta wonder how bad Palpatine kneecapped the remaining Imperial Remnants with Operation Cinder. The Empire's biggest problem was that it was a leaking sieve for defectors, and burning your own planets, including those fanatically loyal to you, turned that stream into a flood.
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It is actually a very fun trilogy, must read.
@@WizardsandWarriors If I can find myself a copy without contributing towards Disney, I shall. I'd take subservience under a tyrannical sith pensioner over the absolute philistines responsible for retconning Kreiya and the Exile from SW:EU lore.
I haven't harboured a grudge this entire time like some warhammer dwarf under a pile of rocks and rats somewhere below the old world, nup, not even a little.
*angry scribble noises*
After this series it would be amazing if you could cover the Thrawn Trilogy from Legends!
Still waiting on those Gundam Lore videos.
Even more as stated by yours truly, mech are universally adored.
Gundam goes hard af
why is the acclamator so big compared to the mc75s?
It is very weird, I didn't hear them mention MC75s specifically so I assume they used the wrong model, it would make much more sense for them to be nebulon Bs or Assault frigates, this scale makes it look like the Acclamator is the size of a Preator
Up until the nonsensical pull of somehow Palpatine returning in Rise of Skywalker, I was honestly digging all the stuff around Operation Cinder and Sheev just basically upending the chess table and taking his empire down with him because he was a sore loser. I felt it was an interesting idea that really embraced and exemplified how Palpy really only cared about himself and saw everyone and everything as expandable and replaceable.
And then we got TROS which just made the whole thing seem wasteful but I’m sure that’s been discussed to death elsewhere. With the upcoming plans of bringing the Legends ideas of Imperial warlords back and Thrawn returning, curious how they’ll go about it now, especially considering that this would be at odds with the First Order.
They will just kill off the major Imperial remnant warlords in the upcoming shows and double hard on the Rise of Skywalker plotline with creamy Sheev.
You could say that TLJ assassinated Luke's character and TRoS did the same for Palpatine.
Btw like so much else in Star Wars, that "If I die then nobody else deserves to survive" attitude also can be seen in irl history & most likely those periods and events were the inspiration for things like Operation Cinder. If you want to, then from Hitler to the French & British empires' actions in individual countries when losing a colony there's parallels to be found in all aspects.
@@Argacyan I don't recall Britain or France firebombing their former colonies immediately after decolonization.
@@BoneistJ Algeria (for France), Kenya (for Britain), ... Not just firebombings, but with Kenya also explicitly concentration camps and all that. There's more but these two examples alone should make you curious if you didn't know yet, without me having to write an essay for a RUclips comment that most people won't read.
"Operation: Cinder is to begin at once. Resistance. Rebellion. Defiance. These are concepts that cannot be allowed to persist. You are but one of many tools by which these ideas shall be burned away."-Palpatine's sentinel
Even how good this series is and how much i love star wars, I would personly prefare you started with "legends star wars" consider that story afaik is fully completed, while Canon is still gets stuff added but thats just my opinion :)
Also the fact that legends makes more sense than the disney timeline
@@bluebubbadog2080 not sure I can agree it makes more sense but how do you mean?
@@bluebubbadog2080 Almost like it was it's own thing before corporate meddling tossed it aside so they didn't have to pay anyone royalties.
@phile1832 it took years and years for the new republic to win in legends, much more realistic in my opinion than the 1 year it took in canon
@@bluebubbadog2080 in Bloodline book many Empire sympathizer planets hide the Empire remains. Im not surprised if they blatantly lie to the council about the Empire present on their sector.
Just started watching these vids a couple days ago and I'm glad I did. Not only are these videos amazing, but I got to be here for the release of a brand new video taking place after ROTJ.
"Dead Palpatine had one last card to play": returning to life 😂.
I love how Battlefront II covers the immediate aftermath of Endor in such detail and the fact that Iden Versio fought on to become part of the Resistance later is amazing.
Pls make a vid on U.C gundam, like the battle of Loum and operation Odessa or try to cover general Revil's "Zeon is exhausted" speech.
Will do legends content as well? Some amazing battles and wars were apart of the original EU
In the next video, besides Jakku, will you cover Project Starhawk and the Battle of Kuat?
Your content is more specialized for legends, it’s rich and concise
LEGENDS 4 EVA
They say the emperor died but actually “somehow Palpatine returned”
"Palpatine returned from his home planet..."
Also, they fly now
@General Jimmies everyone quotes "Somehow, Palpatine returned", but that whole "They fly now" sequence honestly could be considered the worse of the two; At least Pal returning could've been done slightly less awfully and supplemental material at least covered some holes. "They fly now" is a failure in terms of writing, done in the most awkward and obviously designed for flashy stunts to try and sell toys way, shouldn't be any surprise at all in setting, kicks off a fight scene so bland and difficult to follow that doesn't accomplish anything
Cloning! Secrets only the Sith knew! Duh
@@andrewdiaz3529plus we’ve already seen Stormtroopers with some sort of jetpack that could allow them to stay in the air for some period of time before then. It was nothing new, therefore uninteresting for that to be new to them.
Your breakdowns of star wars battles and lore are my favorite! Oh and also lord of the rings
I enjoy the Elder Scrolls as well. It's hard to place all that Elder Scrolls lore together while playing the game because a lot of it is just mentioned within in game books that you have to travel throughout the map to find.
This is where I realize Disney completely modified the Star Wars universe, and the expanded universe I knew is no more. Very good video though. Perhaps this will never happen, but I hope Wizards and Warriors will also cover the Legends universe of Star Wars.
LEGENDS 4 EVA
Do something Legends too. People who don’t know deserve to know.
please don´t end in jakku, and use the comic legends and the history of the heir of the empire (Thrawn), the Yuzzan Vog war, the corelian rebelion and the Fel empire.
LEGENDS 4 EVA
I honestly hate this part of the New Canon, as it just lets the New Republic move in instead of fighting for every inch of ground that the Imperial Remnants would have had, and hand-waves the rest of the Imperials away.
Because in Legends, the Imperial Remnants had half the Galaxy under their control, and even fought against one another, leaving so many stories that could've been from the perspective of the fledgling New Republic soldiers on the front and even Post-Endor Imperial Remnants.
It's just such a waste of good story potential
Good video, but I was a bit disappointed that you forgot about the Battle of Kuat Drive Yards.
The post-1st Palpatine death world would be great content for SW films.
The instability of the New Republic, many criticising it, is actually quite accurate among newly emerged democracies.
It's scary how many Imperials were willing to go along with an act of self-inmolation, just out of devotion to a now dead Emperor.
and it was just a ploy to make sure the first order had no competition. maybe empire bad after all
At the same time it doesn’t entirely make sense because it kind of ignores palpatines alexander the great/hilter/social darwinist strategy of make those under me fight for my favor and prove whos the strongest to bring out the best and most ruthless, if anything them squabbling over his legacy for power is also something in route with sith ideology and strokes his ego
Also palpatines culture of survival of the fittest in the empires hierarchy made everyone especially at the top a self serving and ambitious person in their own right, the idea that the empire at the higher echelons had enough discipline and loyalty post palpatines death to burn it all down feels like a long shot, most moffs wanted to be their own big shot
@DeanmC261993 this is why legends timeline makes more sense, after the battle of endor the empire split and started fighting eachother
And then they were disappointed when the supposed dead emperor somehow returned
Video about Hundred Year War from avatar the last airbender I love you channel keeps the good work
My god I enjoyed this more then season 3 of mando !
Now, if this was the Original (and only) Star Wars, this would have been Wedge Antilles & Rogue Squadron! As regards Rebels, Choppa was amusing!
When is the Next installment of the Alternate History of Mongol Invasion of Europe come?
Soon
intresting, you should do a video series on the traveller rpg universe now that has some pretty cool lore.
also battletech/mechwarrior.
both versions of battlestar galactica
babylon 5 universe
the starcraft universe
the firefly universe
the dead space universe.
the alien/predator universe/universes.
the foundation universe by issac asimov
the 2001 universe by arthur c clarke.
Will you be doing the space battles of the Thrawn Trilogy?
The MC-75's look small lol, that mining facility looks just like the ones from Empire at War! Also please cover the Battle of Nadiri and those events!
Really enjoy these
Watching this on May the Fourth, and it's truly poetic that way.
I miss the Warhammer Fantasy videos...
Coming very soon!
They jumped right into End Times to kill the series.
@@WizardsandWarriors Hey, just wanted to say while I love these videos, the background music is just too loud and frankly overused. You don't need to use background music throughout the whole video, I firmly believe background music is unnecessary especially for information dense videos and that people want to hear you speak and not hear generic background music that they have to mentally filter out.
Minor but the MC75s are longer than the Acclamator.
Jeddha and Jakku are in the core? That doesn't make sense at all...
Neither does the disney trilogy.
After battle of Jackku you need to diverge to the legends timeline! You could also have the canon timeline as a separate video so people can choose which path they listen to!
Was very much looking forward to this, thanks wizards 👍
I like how he said after the death of emperor but in sequel he's alive again .
For me and others I believe sequels are dumb , I would watch George Lukas made films with family than a woke poopculture 😂
@@unen3470 very Chad of you. I approve 😎
@@underfire987 thank you Chad bro .
All this new star wars seem to have a unusual amount of girl bosses imo.
The legacy post-empire story wasn't perfect but it was better than the new cannon one.
LEGENDS 4 EVA
Ah, so this is new Star Wars lore...great.
Ironic, considering the writers for this single video probably did way more and better work than the people who constructed the script for the entire 3rd trilogy.
That SW Theory music tho.
I have a challenge for you. Soulsborne games lore. There are Wizards and Warriors there too. Or Warcraft.
Oh wait, we're not skipping through Star Wars Squadrons storyline before getting to Jakku are we? 😥
One supercool What if scenario would be a Legends one. "What if Thrawn didn't die?"
Plus, within mere *seconds*, Palpatine's "masters" the Ssi-Ruuvi Imperium, proceeded to invade; as their secret deal with him was now nullified; due to nobody else knowing about it: so they proceeded to annex the human empire and gain what they could.
In the meantime, Palpatine himself awoke in a clone chamber in Byss at the same general instant, as "Dark Empire" makes clear.
Any chance for a warcraft timeline documentary ?
Ca fait longtemps que vous avez pas parlé des Elder Scrolls
Will W&W ever cover STAR WARS LEGENDS. That's where all the good stuff is, from the Rakatan Infinite Empire to the Second Galactic Empire under Darth Krayt. The old EU was superior in every way every true SW fan knows this.
LEGENDS NEVER DIE!
Some legends story was but not all of them as well. This why George lucas never made them cannon
Hope one Day you will do the Horus Heresy! This task alone will take at least 20 Videos.
I love your videos they look so nice ❤
Great vid! More Conan please!
Cinder and jakku are the most moronic additions Disney made, both of which completely devoid of any strategic vision or semblance of foresight!
Operation Nero is based on Hitler's Nero Decree. Look it up.
This is just within Palpatines character. He'd burn the universe if it meant he'd rule the ashes
Hitler attempted something similar when he he realized that Germany was starting to lost the war.
The only thing that doesn’t make sense is that he knew he’d return later
Palps is definitely petty like that.
@@TheHawkeye0725---Petty to the extreme
Can we all agree that operation Cinder makes 0 sense
Nah it fits with palpatine only wanting him in charge of the empire
Nice! Was just binging an Obi-Wan show. Man, watching McGregor Christensen back at it is so nostalgic!
Love it lol
Meh, I didn't care
Good stuff.
So...an ISDII lost/tie to a Aclamator...While superior imperaial ground forces lost too....who say Rebels do not have plot armor all the time
Isn't that acclamator way to big in comparison to the mc75's?
Fun Fact : the world of "Cerea" is just a single letter away from being Corn Pops.
Didht know you guys had a different channel for nerd stuff. Awesome.
Could you also do the legends story post-Endor?
That's unlikely they can't just combine both Disney and Legends Canon together....but I still wish they'd do a separate series specifically for Legends
@@Comrade_Connie I'm not asking for a combo, just legends canon.
@@chrismartindale7840 yes but for that they still have to make a separate series specifically for Legends, Legends will still be the actual Canon for me
@@Comrade_Connie me as well, though I have high hopes for Ashoka.
@@chrismartindale7840 same but I hope they don't ruin it too much or maybe it'll be great but I have to remember they'll have to fit the timeline Disney made.
Higher quality production than Disney Star Wars
FAX. LEGENDS 4 EVA
Ah yes, the greatest insult to Star Wars canon since the Sequels...
Operation Cinder really makes no sense from even a logical point. Even if you argue by using real world historical event as background, Palpatine wanting to see the whole galaxy burn if he dies is an insult to how much of a genius mastermind of a villain he is.
Yep, but it is based on an actual Nazi plan. Hitler tasked Albert Speer with the Nero decree. This was a scorched earth policy to destroy anythig of value within Germany, infrastructure, machinery, resources and art.
Love these Star Wars videos. Have you read any of the High Republic material? THere are several battles within those books that would make for some good videos on this channel.
pew pew, pew pew
Wish for Stargate & GATE Thus the JSDF Fought There videos soon.
Damn sith and their schemes
The weapon satellites would've been a far more effective deterrent for Tarkin's doctrine instead of the Death Star.
Think about it; whereas the Death Star obliterates the planet and wastes any further resource and infrastructure potential it could still have, these satellites instead act as orbital bombardment beams and scour the surface of the Empire's enemies. As a both a psychological and destructive weapons, it is far more effective than the Death Star as it leaves the planet's resources and territory to be reclaimed, and if the Empire was smart they'd have several droids and AV recording equipment on the ground shooting footage to send it's message; Step out of line and this is your fate.
But whoever wrote this as Palpatine's Last Spite was an idiot as using it on loyalist worlds instead of rebelling ones is patently stupid and moronic.
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Alright chief, this stopped being star wars after the battle of endor. Legends timeline only or im not watching further
We are now going into post-Original Trilogy ABY eras... this is going to be a fun wild ride, right? Right?
The whole idea of operation cinder is so stupid
Palpatine was a petty loser
Whenever villains do stuff like this it stinks of sore loser syndrome
The alphabet squadron, lol an elite unit of homosexual soldiers that would be funny
Kinga and generals yaaas haha
I can't wait for your next Video on this.😊
2:00 "Oh no we lost a few star destroyers lol its not like we have 25,000 more, tens of thousands of other stardestroyers varients, and hundreds of thousands of smaller ships. Along with tens of billions of stormtroopers, tens of triilions or army troopers (counting elite versions of both groups. No no yeah we're defeated. we have to surrender" lol stupid.
This lore seems weak
BURN!
Warhammer 40K pweaseeee 🥹
Luke Skywalker dis not participate in any New Republic campaigns. What an act of cowardice 😂😂😂
Alphabet squadron, lmao.
Operation cinder is one of the most stupid piece of canon in a world full of them done under disney leadership.
It is based on an actual plan by Hitler called the Nero decree, where Albert Speer was ordered at the end of the war to burn anything of value, including machinery, infrastructure, art, and other resources both to punish Germany for surrendering and deny the allies the fruits of their victory.
The empire should have won. The republic is weak
This not even *close* to "Star Wars" as Star Wars' Galactic Civil War is far longer than *this* idiotic mess... tis not your fault, but your sources are wrong.
Clone wars is more interesting then this, I feel like Disney ruined it just seems a mess from loads of different media law and writers peaced together in crumbs, 40k ftw