nobody whose values aline with moanas is kind and understanding. She is a paragon narcisism parading as benevolance, racism parading as anti-racism, and a multiple-gold medal winner in the victim olympics
There are more Maori in positions of power in the history of our country , that point seems to be studiously avoided by Moana and all the the rest of those who sing from a similar song sheet . Peters and Seymour are Maori who have a different model in mind and thats just the way it is .
Goldsmith is Minister of Culture. Minister of Wine and Cheese. Surely he should have got Little and Collins posts. Minister of Defence and Intelligence given that Luxton did not have the iota of sense to at least hold the SIS, GCSB and Intelligence portfollio. Given 2024 is the year of max danger or living dangerously
I'm sorry Moana, but in reference to your argument against Damien when it comes to affirmative action for Maori employment in the media, it is a 'numbers' game. Your whole argument rests on it. If it didn't, you wouldn't be arguing that Maori require more positive discrimination in this area of employment, which in my view is incredibly disingenuous and the state should not dictate to the fourth estate who they should employ
Is there any chatter about all the non Maori children in poverty? They're not Pacifica, Chinese or Indian either. Seen quite a few in my son's central Auckland primary school. They miss out too. How about high numbers of pedophile activity linked to overseas busts? We see so few of them on or in the news. What is the predominant ethnicity of these people? We're talking fair representation of all people from Act. Capitalism and tax cuts rely heavily on vulnerable and poor people to prop up the Thuglies policies.
My contention is that good men (not bad men) consistently acting upon that position [imposing “the good”] would act as cruelly and unjustly as the greatest tyrants. They might in some respects act even worse. Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under of robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some points be satiated; but those who torment us for their own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to heaven yet at the same time likely to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on the level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
She is not wrong. She knows tobacco, like guns and blankets, was used to buy as much land as they thought they could get away with. Which is all of it. Those very people later resorted to warfare after all those tricks failed, and their direct political descendants are now trying again, using a new angle.
From the river to the sea art exhibition at Tauranga Museum was cancelled today, by the property agent. For being political in the window. Art is not "allowed" to be political in Tauranga today. Faaark. What's art fn for then? Good grief! Fast forward 40 years already please...
The tobacco reforms would simply expand the black market as there are already black market cigarettes in New Zealand because of excise tax. Any government that genuinely believes in prohibition of consensual personal activities will always fail, and would create detrimental impacts. The Misuse of Drugs Act is a complete failure, so for people to think similar policies would work for tobacco is mind-blowingly stupid. With regards to the Treaty, it very much seems that nobody really understand the treaty, not the right, the left, nor Hobson's Pledge, nor the Courts, nor Maori - they all have an interpretation that benefit them, and not an interpretation taken directly from the text of Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
Bullshit. I would be inclined to advise Willis to sell TVOne after this gutless performance. I see no evidence of any media independence. TV One clearly operates within a highly restricted parameter of PC and expressing adoration of Mark Mitchell at every opportunity. In terms of NZ Law Schools and Social Science departments government financing and indirectly future staff placement depends on research being consistent with NZ operational interest as defined by MFAT I mean in the 199Os the NZ business right real or imagined by the media Tobe ultra right people like Roger Kerr and David Richwhite certainly did not get invitations from the television channels for media interviews. The TV channels attitude was we exist to ignore capitalists, right wing authorities and anybody to the right of ANU Professor Hugh White. If you supported Trump you were a non person and Trump as a Republican candidate in 2016 and ever since could only be spat at in four letter words
I do accept that this country is racist, even myself, even the media and political press. I mean the handling of the Kiri Allen; the Mayor of Wellington engaging in what appears to have been a sex act in a Wellington bar in which all the observers were drunk.and Winston Peters is foreign minister again and Ms Davidson is co leader of the Green opposition against and she is wearing more makeup or insisting on A1, she may even have boyfriends So the Maoris may only really be 10-15 percent of the electorate but they do have some protected status and the Treaty. So NZ is a Euro Maori partnership and the Maoris certainly have more rights than the Samoans or Chinese and probably preference in the All Blacks and possibly in the Army
The English text - which only a handful of Maori signed - ceded sovereignty. Hundreds more Maori signed the te reo version, which did not vede sovereignty. In Te Tiriti, Maori were guaranteed tino rangatiratanga (sovereignty) over their lands and seas, whilst ceding kawanatanga (governance) to the British Crown. Read a book!
Fk are u talking about!! Maori having been using similar saying. River flows from the mountain to the sea. I am the river and the river is me!!🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
Let’s be honest colonisation never benefits the locals regardless on what side of the fence you’re on. Straight up whitey runs the show aaaannnd they’ll destroy a race to keep it..Life.
I give him a year, then Winnie will outmaneuver him, then he'll pack a sad and fire him, causing NZF to leave the coalition, followed by the loss of confidence vote and a snap election.
@@southpacific222 reality? As a Master of Arts in Political science, I think I know more than you, pal. Obviously, you aren't acquainted with recent political history.
I feel you Moana. Big awhi to you 🤗 I'm choosing to be optimistic as well. There are more kiwis who are kind and understanding. ❤🤗
nobody whose values aline with moanas is kind and understanding. She is a paragon narcisism parading as benevolance, racism parading as anti-racism, and a multiple-gold medal winner in the victim olympics
There are more Maori in positions of power in the history of our country , that point seems to be studiously avoided by Moana and all the the rest of those who sing from a similar song sheet . Peters and Seymour are Maori who have a different model in mind and thats just the way it is .
How many Maori?? Did u ask them 4 a Dna test??😂🤣
Goldsmith is Minister of Culture. Minister of Wine and Cheese. Surely he should have got Little and Collins posts. Minister of Defence and Intelligence given that Luxton did not have the iota of sense to at least hold the SIS, GCSB and Intelligence portfollio. Given 2024 is the year of max danger or living dangerously
Sack the media
I'm sorry Moana, but in reference to your argument against Damien when it comes to affirmative action for Maori employment in the media, it is a 'numbers' game. Your whole argument rests on it. If it didn't, you wouldn't be arguing that Maori require more positive discrimination in this area of employment, which in my view is incredibly disingenuous and the state should not dictate to the fourth estate who they should employ
yea moana is irrational she shuldnt be on this platform.....shes a woke chjild contradicts her self constantly
Why not? It does every where else. Or do you just believe in white privilege?
@@richardcaves3601 no, I do not believe in equity of outcomes. Not do I care for the state dictating to the Fourth Estate who they should employ.
@@morgan_kemp why not?
@@richardcaves3601Because it's anti democratic
British American Tobacco supplies my vape juice. FYI
Who is that man and what have they done with Jack Tame?
If you showed me just a transcript and it was from an ACT MP, I would believe you.
I know, it's fantastic!! 😂
Good on you Moana. I think jack came back to his sense and logic there.
Damien hasn't got a clue about smokers!
The dudes a smoker
he does prohibition dsnt wrk
@@222-i6oit certainly does ‘work’. Maybe not every single person stops but the majority will
@@222-i6o Prohibition works on children. I wish I couldn't walk into any dairy and buy smokes when I was 13 years old. Yet I did.
@@cpOtAtono it doesn't. The alcohol prohibition in America did not work
Thank you all. Hearty.
Is there any chatter about all the non Maori children in poverty? They're not Pacifica, Chinese or Indian either. Seen quite a few in my son's central Auckland primary school. They miss out too. How about high numbers of pedophile activity linked to overseas busts? We see so few of them on or in the news. What is the predominant ethnicity of these people? We're talking fair representation of all people from Act. Capitalism and tax cuts rely heavily on vulnerable and poor people to prop up the Thuglies policies.
My contention is that good men (not bad men) consistently acting upon that position [imposing “the good”] would act as cruelly and unjustly as the greatest tyrants. They might in some respects act even worse. Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under of robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some points be satiated; but those who torment us for their own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to heaven yet at the same time likely to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be “cured” against one’s will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on the level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
"tobacco is a tool of colonisation"😂 "landlords are the warlords" 😂😂 Moana is the michael phelps of the victim olympics
moana argues like a 7yr old....its as if u have to teach her how to reason b4 u engage.....vry irritating and frustrating listening to her
She is not wrong.
She knows tobacco, like guns and blankets, was used to buy as much land as they thought they could get away with.
Which is all of it.
Those very people later resorted to warfare after all those tricks failed, and their direct political descendants are now trying again, using a new angle.
I’m sorry it’s difficult for you to understand nuance.
Moana blames her success on whitey & everyone else
@@cpOtAto'Nuance' 🤣
Yay! Martyn is back! With MSM! Thak you all xx
Jack Tame - well said :)
From the river to the sea art exhibition at Tauranga Museum was cancelled today, by the property agent. For being political in the window. Art is not "allowed" to be political in Tauranga today. Faaark. What's art fn for then? Good grief! Fast forward 40 years already please...
Il be tappin in with them literally behaviour of a jellyman child
Jack Tame bluck going to be a hard listen
The tobacco reforms would simply expand the black market as there are already black market cigarettes in New Zealand because of excise tax. Any government that genuinely believes in prohibition of consensual personal activities will always fail, and would create detrimental impacts. The Misuse of Drugs Act is a complete failure, so for people to think similar policies would work for tobacco is mind-blowingly stupid. With regards to the Treaty, it very much seems that nobody really understand the treaty, not the right, the left, nor Hobson's Pledge, nor the Courts, nor Maori - they all have an interpretation that benefit them, and not an interpretation taken directly from the text of Te Tiriti o Waitangi.
Moana is awesome! Thank you!
Holy Shit, Jack is growing up.
Give it another 10 years, and he'll come over to the dark side 😆
Bullshit. I would be inclined to advise Willis to sell TVOne after this gutless performance. I see no evidence of any media independence. TV One clearly operates within a highly restricted parameter of PC and expressing adoration of Mark Mitchell at every opportunity. In terms of NZ Law Schools and Social Science departments government financing and indirectly future staff placement depends on research being consistent with NZ operational interest as defined by MFAT I mean in the 199Os the NZ business right real or imagined by the media Tobe ultra right people like Roger Kerr and David Richwhite certainly did not get invitations from the television channels for media interviews. The TV channels attitude was we exist to ignore capitalists, right wing authorities and anybody to the right of ANU Professor Hugh White. If you supported Trump you were a non person and Trump as a Republican candidate in 2016 and ever since could only be spat at in four letter words
Tame's an infant. He's talking about naivete -and it's clear he has no idea what National even is. A good show though. Thanks Bomber.
I do accept that this country is racist, even myself, even the media and political press. I mean the handling of the Kiri Allen; the Mayor of Wellington engaging in what appears to have been a sex act in a Wellington bar in which all the observers were drunk.and Winston Peters is foreign minister again and Ms Davidson is co leader of the Green opposition against and she is wearing more makeup or insisting on A1, she may even have boyfriends So the Maoris may only really be 10-15 percent of the electorate but they do have some protected status and the Treaty. So NZ is a Euro Maori partnership and the Maoris certainly have more rights than the Samoans or Chinese and probably preference in the All Blacks and possibly in the Army
Great to hear Moana- inspirational as always
The treaty of Waitangi was about Māori giving up sovereignty and that happened 200 years ago. Now it has no relevance anymore.
And all you got is giving up sovereignty!!😂🤣
The English text - which only a handful of Maori signed - ceded sovereignty. Hundreds more Maori signed the te reo version, which did not vede sovereignty. In Te Tiriti, Maori were guaranteed tino rangatiratanga (sovereignty) over their lands and seas, whilst ceding kawanatanga (governance) to the British Crown. Read a book!
The old guy was schooled by Moana. His arguments are so weak and he just relies on blind dogma.
That's the pot calling the kettle black 😂
How exactly?
What does 55 million buy you??...a whole lot of soft questions during an election campaign aye jack??
Six years of Ardern Be Kind empathy has made the most vulnerable people worse off
Certainly did 👍
BS
Yay no tax cuts....
Tour de force. …. Again. Bravo.
Drug taking advice by a dad who has zero idea? Damien, Nooooo!!!
Great yarn tonight
I cant believe this
Jack defending free speech
Martyn defending gender critical feminists
Wtf is going on, they sound like Act voters! Awesome! 😂
martyn has alwys considered the woke a waste of space....jack is jst hoping tht w peters is listening and will give him a 2nd chance
@@222-i6o Martyn is pretty damn woke himself. He's very Cenk-ish, wonder if he has the same predilections.
One term Damien over uses ,"I think".
The only reason the pop singer has a job as a media commenter is because she is Maori. Follow the money
its time we strted talking about billion dollar iwis....now the the 55million fund is finishd
@@222-i6oa couple of racist rednecks. Perhaps you should emigrate to Russia or Florida. You'd feel right at home.
@@222-i6owho cares
@@tooxtalivai0690
Every kiwi that voted the new govt in, that's who.
Adult. Not a child.
Oh come on Moana, the growing anti semitism all around the world is not "absolute nonsense" it's happening.
27:29 💀
It's widely understood that "from the rivers to the sea" is anti-Semitic, you can't just decide for yourself what that means to suit your own agenda.
Fk are u talking about!!
Maori having been using similar saying.
River flows from the mountain to the sea.
I am the river and the river is me!!🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@@adriandocherty778that's not even remotely similar, bro
@@rikicurtis522 Thanks for backing me up. Read Friedman in the NYT. It's known the world over.
Lol!
I'm still not quite sure if Damien is actually evil, or just genuinely stupid.
gee wiizz this is a great video to not watch
Damien is wrong.
Frequently - hardly worth a mention.😀
Looked great until I saw Jack Tame was part of this. Maybe Tame Iti would’ve been a better choice.
No one should listen to Damian Grant about anything. At all. He has zero to offer.
Everyone has a right to their opinion
@@rikicurtis522 at some point those opinions are proven wrong over and over again or they are harmful, those opinions should be shut down
@@cpOtAto GTFO Globohomos?
First
Te Tiriti = The street.
Te Tirito o Waitanga is (part of) our Constitution. Let's refer to it with it's correct name (?)
do we have a constitution ?@@gio5408
Ahhhh, you mean the Treaty is the street as in the path forward for all of us. Correct.
@richardcaves3601 nah, I meant it loses it's meaning when always referred to as te Tiriti without the o Waitangi bit
Let’s be honest colonisation never benefits the locals regardless on what side of the fence you’re on. Straight up whitey runs the show aaaannnd they’ll destroy a race to keep it..Life.
Luxon will quit. Within six months. That's not certain yet though.
I give him a year, then Winnie will outmaneuver him, then he'll pack a sad and fire him, causing NZF to leave the coalition, followed by the loss of confidence vote and a snap election.
@richardcaves3601 Oh dear, your lack of understanding of our political system is outstanding!
@@southpacific222 reality? As a Master of Arts in Political science, I think I know more than you, pal. Obviously, you aren't acquainted with recent political history.
I’ll take your money. $1000 says he doesn’t.
@whatthe6532 Oh really? Nice! Please advise me your lawyers details and their trust account number etc. I'll wager you, on clear terms :)