For me, its more like a better COD than BF. The destruction is even less impactful than 2042s, and even though I adore the weapon customization - it just not scratching my bf itch.
This. For the last 7-8 years I’ve been draining my life with call of duty but still having a decent time. Around MWII, I wanted to bug out due to it’s toxic community. If anything, I see Hawk Ops “killing” CoD mobile, but not the bf series.
But you gotta admit. Although they’re not advertising crazy destruction, they are offering a good amount of things and it’s only just an alpha rn. I would say overall makes it a viable option for now
@@christianvalenzuela1118 But they advertised destruction; like Ghost said, they made it look like much bigger than it is - its also very static and so far (and es, its an alpha) you cant really predict if a wall gets destroyed or not (shot one with a tank, still stood there - throw c4, boom, destroyed)
Sound is also a problem in my opinion - you just can't hear any footsteps. This makes locating opponents very difficult. It is also very difficult to notice that you are being shot at. And yes, the network code is very bad. I often feel like I'm dying from a bullet, but I often need a whole magazine to kill opponents. Sometimes I had the problem when there were a lot of players in close proximity that no shots hit at all.
The audio is awful imo. Explosions, vehicle and general feeling of "war" is lacking alot. Also vehicles are poor , the wallhacks are cheesey, too many Bots, and the beach map sucks. So ye 2042 is way better as a BF game as it stands, albeit thats after years of being crappy
This seems disingenuous, Ghost was criticizing the game in his last video too. It's fair to call out content creators for their glazing of this game, but don't apply other people's words to Ghost.
Yeah I mean you just don't know what you think should be changed until you play it a good bit. It had a good first impression on me too but needs some changes.
Hmmm I mean it’s not bad for a F2P 64p big game, but yeah Ghosts criticism here are all valid and I do think this gives Battlefield a good wake-up call for what players really want. I think Delta Force is a good interim game until the next Battlefield, but I know I will be going back to Battlefield. It’s good and I’ve enjoyed the Alpha so far, and I’m excited to see what Delta Force and Battlefield become moving forward.
it's better than 2042 In almost every aspect, that's for sure. However, it will never tops the BF3-BF1 experience. Only the OG DICE dev could deliver that exact experience we longed for.
loved BF3 but it was not nearly as ready as this game which is in alpha. DICE is known for many things but quality is not one of them, the experience we loved came from months of fixing which I do not miss.
it's free 2 play, it's economy is probably 10 times more predatory than Battlefield's. people tend to forget why so many people like Battlefield in the first place, especially in today's gaming landscape: progression. compared to pretty much any other multiplayer shooter on the market Battlefield has kept it's progression fair and engaging for both Battle Pass purchases and people who don't want to spend money. the weekly challenges are just breezy enough and rewarding enough to not ever feel intrusive and they do keep people coming. Tencent is used to the business model of not just free 2 play model, but the Asian free 2 play model- expect once Hawk Ops to come out to be very anti consmer, and our feedback will not reach Tencent at all, expect the developers to be radio silent on that as well.
I think that it heavily marketed in the US, could be wrong but I think that Tencent might have a bit of a different approach. Might be a reach but who knows.
I don't see enough people worrying about this exact issue. Yeah, the game is great and all, but its free to play, meaning everything is going to be locked behind stupid loot crates, extremely lengthy progression etc
I was a bit overwhelmed by the weapon customization (in the context of the BF mode) but now I think it's really good. It let's you really fine tune the weapon to have exactly the amount of recoil you can handle and boost other stats. It really can adapt to your playstyle. I think it's great they got a "Share loadout" feature that seems already functional so I'm sure some pros will share their loadouts with the current meta. Also you can totally not calibrate anything and still get a good amount of customization. Really impressed by the weapon customization. That and the "gunplay" imo are the pillars of this game and the thing I hope they won't touch much. For me the most annoying thing in the Alpha is the hidden bots. Really didn't like the feeling. Sometimes you would face a bot that would miserably miss you in close quarter, sometimes you do get lasered through smokes and sometimes you get owned by a good real player. In the end you have no real idea of how many bots you faced. I think in most of my games 1/3 of each teams looked like bots score-wise. I would sometimes get an almost 100% human games once I activated ranks but there is still too many bots. And it is infuriating not to know if they are bots. What about people reporting the bots for cheats ? Isn't it a complete waste of time to let people send reports like that ? Apart from that, I don't share really the negativity around delta force. I think it's a promising game that achieved better foundations/fundamentals than BF2042 could ever have dreamed of at release. It's obvious to me that these are experienced devs and even though some of their choice are debatable I think they are listening. I don't think they would go as far as removing ops but beside that they seem open to changing stuff for the good. I guess we will see but for me as a free2play this is good stuff and definitely a BF contender IMHO. If they fix vehicles and manage to make them for immersive and comfortable to drive, I don't see why this could not contend with BF. PS: A small note on vehicles. To some extent I don't think they are so fundamental to break delta force "momentum" because many BF veterans just don't really like them. Many players are more than happy to just play infantry vs infantry. I play a lot of heli so my experience was bad in that regard in delta force but for many players I don't think they care much about that. Just saying that there is quite a range in the type of people that play battlefield.
2:05 "I don't have any problem with AI players" yeah I do: - I'd rather have a slightly empty server that slowly fills up than a server that starts out with 20 AI storming the point. - AI is programmed to aimbot you, through the tiniest cracks in walls and gaps in smokes it will find you and beam you. You can't disappear in the cover. - An AI is not "distracted", if you are flanking 5 enemies that are facing away from you, 1 AI player will always turn around and land some hits on you, it is not focussed on whats in front of them but they are programmed to shoot whatever enters their LoS. - Having no AI at all would increase server + client performance.
They also drain the tickets needlessly on attack, which is especially a problem on ascended where they just bunch up in the tunnel(you can also check how many spawn because they always spawn on land in the beginning), and then ofc there are the players who act like bots and just follow them, overall its a very weird design decision that needs to be highly criticized.
Totally agree with a few things here. ° animations like self heal while moving is bad ° the hidden skill base (which i noticed right on my 2nd game) ° destruction ° specialist ° hidden AI with real names
i've also noticed that the skill rises after a few games. i guess they let you play against bot lobbies for the first 2 or so games so you dont get smashed. after that its mostly players
I kind of figured it out after the first match. I played this 1 day after it released and was number 1 on my team. I probably spent like a good 5 minutes just in the menu tweaking my keybinds and graphic settings too.
You're playing ranked. They don't tell you this, but there's a small box in the bottom right of the main menu that allows you to disable ranked play. Should be more obvious and not automatically checked.
@@TheBrick534 im facing the same problem what he have that the skill rises after like i played 7 6 games i dont play rank i play normal but now the game switched from a fun game to an sbmm game after these few games
I originally thought that I was just blind, but now it makes sense when it comes to AI players. I find myself often times getting lasered through bushes or visual obstacles and when I die, I barely see the tip of the enemies head in the killcam.
I've played controller for over 20 years and let me tell you having to learn K&M to play this alpha has been fun. Someone like me appreciates the bots because at least i can kill something lol
Similar to Xdefiant's recent success, it highlights how little regard both COD and Battlefield have today and how separated they are from their core playerbased
added bots because there are limited player in closed tests? From what they said on discord they gave out 80k keys ( one of the mods said it) as Twitch Drops two days ago alone, I think that's enough players to fill lobbies. Unless they lied about the amount of keys they gave out.
It's easy to tell which ones are bots because the way they run around lmao, but I don't think they should remove bots entirely because I'd rather have a full lobby, what difference does it make when real players can take the place of the bots when they join like in battlefield? Not being able to revive while prone also sucks and the vehicles, oh man, the vehicles in this game are horrible. Bad controls and feeling.
As a nedic main I definitely need to be able to revive while crouched or prone. It doesn't even make sense to revive someone that is laying on the ground by standing over them. Regarding bots, I am ok with them filling in while more real players funnel in, but they need to be marked as bots. More so that if I see enemies in n the distance, I can target the real players first.
"Delta Force is feeding on the negative stigma around 2042." truest statement right there. the way everyone has been gargling this game's chode for the past few months has been utterly outrageous, and that is so clearly the reason for it. so far, i haven't seen anything extremely stand-out-ish, but i'm also keeping in mind that this is still pretty far from release status so hopefully by the time it's out, everyone can enjoy Delta Force as its own thing and not as a "Battlefield killer"
Lwt's not kid ourselves, the earlier Delta Force makes it to market before BF 2025 the better. It's popularity is a consolation prize to how badly EA's messed BF up. Their very best bet is EA fails us again
My biggest complaint is weapon balance. The AR's are just too good. I feel like using anything else just puts me at a big disadvantage. The LMG for example has too much recoil when the bipod is deployed. More recoil than a stock AR. With a balance pass this game has a lot of potential!
Finally someone addressing the issues. They are actually not issues but they are certainly concerning. ImO the game heavily needs its own identity. After playing for like 5h, I must say is felt good but most of the times felt like some cheap copy of bf2042 tbh. No doubt the game has a solid base and god level optimization. It just needs some work and I am pretty positive about it. Its just an alpha and it's already better than most of the games
I thought it was me thinking the movement felt sluggish. I had like 200 fps and it felt like I was having like 30. The vehicle physics are horrendous and felt more like COD groundwar. That said its a good free alternative to BF, but don't think it will convince a lot of hardcore BF players.
They could be adding bot in deliberately for the purposes of testing the bots, as opposed to doing it because of player numbers. Seems like something a dev would want to make sure is working correctly before release.
BF series, EA, Dice has been in the toilet / dead since BF4. Deltaforce development only goes up from here. Another note: Your channel descript seems to be more BF centric / loyal. Time is on Delta Forces side.
@heldy1234 Those games were what EA force fed the BF gamer simply to boost sales, knowing we would pay for it. However, none of us wanted to go back in time to WW1 or 2 and not go so far into the future with 2142. I have played every BF game since PC 1942. Have experienced frostbite at its most destructive in BadCo. 2. BF 3 marked the game where there was a significant decline in destruction in that release, and BF 4 was the beginning of the end for me personally. I do believe in taking care of the customer/gamer, but EA is only interested in the sale, no matter how bad or how many bugs the game has. I purchased BF1 and 5, hoping to capture the BF fire, but didn't get what I wanted, which was modern combat. EA got what it wanted, my money.
@@henrygonzalez8564 You may not like the WW1 type of games but you can’t deny that BF1 is one of the most immersive and realistic BF games that captures the game like a movie.I get it that you don’t like the older eras and you prefer the modern eras,but imagine a BF game in modern era with gameplay of BF1 it would be phenomenal
Best destruction still for me was BF1 and BF5. Because there after match map turned in rubble. Sadly EA droped support for both quicly after launch but they could have milked those games like BF3 and 4 with 4-6 DLC's and people actually would have liked it, BF4 did't start ok too but they stuck to it and pulled it through. Delta Force will be a good game to play, it's enjoyable. And maybe one day Dice will actually try to make battlefiel again and not just take whats popular and somehow try to put it into BF, forgetting what BF is about in the first place.
someone thta never played BFBC2 obviously... BF1 was such a letdown destruction wise, BFV was very good tho, way better than BF1 in many fields... gunplay movement, destruction, TTK...
@@SonOfOdin777 BFV is a downgrade to 1 in such a many ways,realism,movement ,immersion,graphics.How can you say that BF V is better when BF V is set in WW2 and you have woman and people with shiny skins like call of duty sliding and bunny hopping in a WW2 game that doesn’t even fit in this era
@@albertosgr9 I'm not talking at all about thae woman with the hook as a prosthetic hand. That was obviously pathetic. But BFV was way better than BF1 in all the important aspects, gunplay, mechanics, vehicles, movement, destruction... BF1 has been hyped too much, but it's just a regular game with nice "atmosphere" whatever the hell that means.
Why does everyone keep saying that DF is a copy of BF, doesn't anyone realize that there's some much devs can do with a saturated game genre in recent years
For an ALPHA it's much better than BF2042 was on release. Plus it's free. If you take both of those into account, then it's a good space for the future.
You can tell how many ai are in they load in the moment when the match starts and not at the deployment screen. So far the fist day it was about 80% bots and now its seems to be around 50-60% bots
Ghost your critique doesn't seem much fair brother. The situation of battlefield is that i would take this "Alpha" over a "Completed" battlefield from previous few years. The biggest issue for me is that i have a really bad net code with ping being over 300 now. And a on the first day of Alpha it was 100. I normally play Battlefield and COD 47 to 50 ping consistently.
I keep thinking it's still only alpha test. I'm having fun....but.... Movement is a little janky. Vehicles too, though their weapons are crazy. I actually don't mind the operators/specialists maybe because I experienced 2042, but they feel more like soldiers not overwatch heroes. I hope they can impressed and adjust for the final game because it's different from Battlefield but still same enough that it's got COD. I'm also playing extraction mode the first time and it's fun, though that needs adjustment on ammo and armor.
Playing AD mode as soon as I got in the match I knew I was playing with mostly BOTS. They are easy to spot. But I will give DICE credit..there AI BOTs are much more convincing.
I think they will be able to improve the game after making some money from it to hire better developers for the things they are lacking in. I hope they make the right decision to hire more developers to improve the game
i dont get how bf claims to be a realistic military shooter and not having in depth gun customization... they always have been holding back and giving players less than deserve. I realy hope this game does well and bf gets ''dethroned''. Remains to be seen what new bf game has in the store, if it doesnt blow our mind i think it will be their first bf game falling down the hill badly !
Micro transactions without all the weird operations can very easily been pulled of as well if you ask me. Its just the decision that the studio took to go with hero like characters instead of more gritty faceless soldiers
I have no problem with AI in the game, as long as they make it PERFECTLY distinct they're AI players by either adding a tag or making them use generic bot skins (which I wish I could use...BF2042...), having them have names and show up on the leaderboard is incredibly disingenuous.
Ofc people dislike the grappling hook. It should be like it was in bf special forces. Or one time use and get a ammo crate to restock. All heroes in bf sucks. No1 wants them. We just want bf3 bf4 style again. Good bf Game
its a good game but i nevber thought it was "amazing" its way better then 2042, but theres somee things i dont like. Audio for example, you cannot hear ANY footsteps at all, so if someone gets past one of your teammates that you thought was covering the back, then youre dead, no way of knowing that person lost and that someone got behind you. jumping feelslike your floating its a little weird, feels like youre on the moon. I do like that the choppers suck, its nice especially coming from battlefield where they just dominate. The game mode i don't like, never been a fan of breakthrough, its just holding angles and headglitching till someone peaks. LOVE the visual recoil, its nice knowing how my gun is moving when i shoot to make adjustments. Also think the movement feels a little dated, not a fan of not being able to slide unless youre a specific operator.
Honestly aside from the issues (deployment screen is weird) I feel Havoc Warfare feels off Vs the Extraction Mode. I mean with them keep mentioning it's a Tactical Shooter which is true for Extraction Shooter but not so for Havoc Warfare. Why are their Supply Stations for Infantry and Vehicles with the current mechanics? Are they planning a more tactical mode (not hardcore with lower health values and no reduced UI)?
not sure bf1 was a monumental success, a lot of ppl was trashing it with shit like "there wasnt any machineguns in ww1" and thought it was a worse experience than bf4 and 3. also just look at crowbcats bf1 video.
I also hate their appaorach to the beta sign up. So you have to sign up for the alpha for a chance to get access, on steam and on the website. I know atleast 10 people that have done both on the website and on steam, none of us got the key. I think they limited it by A LOT, in order to get people to watch the streams for the key drops to make delta force the top watched channel on twitch. They dont care if you watch it or not they just want it to be at the top. So its sorta scummy. Then they make you take a survey on their website for the access key and you styill dont get it, the only way to really get it is twitch drops, and at specific times, i think they do it at these specific times so like august 10th at 6pm, so that around that time delta force shoots up in views and its at the top of the twitch views again.
“Now second guessing this amazing round I had was against AI” id say the AI is better than the majority of real players so if you have a good match against AI I would give yourself a pat on the back
The main reason for the hype may well be the fact that fans are not happy with cod/bf games and gaming industry in general. Particularly the battlefield community is starving.
Lets face the truth, we’re all at this game to scratch our bf itch bc bf doesn’t deliver. And it’s highly likely that we could be disappointed at the end of the day.
... giving them credit like they won't put paid transactions in their next paid game. COD is selling $24 skin bundles weekly and EA 100% wants to get away with that too
@@jkteddy77 If they wanna make that happen inorder to sell skins, then create a free to play BR or DMZ mode and confine operator model within that. For Conquest, Breakthrough, rush, control like modes, no operator must be involved.
It's decent. Not an amazing BF game and definitely not a BF killer (DICE has already done that lol) but it's definitely something that'll hold me over till the next BF Gunplay feels worse than 2042, I despise the gun customization (but I'm someone who liked what V did so I might not be the best judge) and the vehicles feel eh. I do enjoy the maps, and am curious to see what they're like in a CQ style game mode. I do think the class system is an improvement over 2042, though that's not saying much given how 2042s system still doesn't really work
minor complaints all of this can be fixed this game needs to succeed battlefield is dead we need a true competitor the best part about this game is that theres not an ea or dice logo anywhere
Even if I can understand the enthusiasm of many creators that food can finally be presented on the channels again: Guys, it's a F2P game (4 years in development and therefore somehow to be refinanced!) From China! How naive can you be? I'd rather wait for BF 2025, which will either be awesome or the final nail in the franchise coffin.
I fully agree with the operators and some insane gadgets. Way too over the top and copying the wrong things from BF2042 to be honest. Also the movement feels mega clunky.
I honestly dont agree with it being better than 2042. 2042 is bad for sure but DF is literally just holding the same leaned headglitch as 20 other people and getting instantly melted. You don't get to be aggressive at all
Apparently we are not able to make bug/issue reports on Discord, we are locked out so what is the point of your Alpha then?. No server browser (played Ascension 8 times in a row), Cracked round froze completely, had to quit a round because of zero hit detection, players with no enemy/friendly tag, frames go from 160 to 70, players running in place, and being killed by enemy before they have rendered on my screen, deploy map make no sense you deploy nowhere near where you select be it a squad mate/vehicle/spawn point very disorienting, finally the tedious complexity to events, rewards, level ups etc.
to say EA and battlefield have nothing to fear seems incredibly ignorant since we have absolutely no idea if the next BF is gonna be a even bigger dumpster fire than 2042
Honestly I feel disappointed in Delta Force just because it’s an actual copy that tries to compete with 2042 instead of something better like bf4 anyways I really think that they were aiming to compete with BF but instead it looks like an another “COD killer” somehow yet more BF’ish than you can imagine at least they’ve a good gunplay so no one can be mad about it 😒
Wish it was more hardcore Milsim with a more slower pace instead of a fast paced for arcade skill issue casuals. So far at least the extraction mode seems better than dmz… if only they do the same for the battlefield mode. I feel like the pve only people ruin the player base… I hope the devs don’t cater to them anymore especially in other new similar games.
I'll never understand the point of calling something "game killer" its never going to be, people very rarely change games intirely they want a bf they will only play bf. Its like WoW so many " wow killers " have been made yet all those players dont want another game they want to have the feeling of the wow they miss. Hopefully this makes sense im not very good at writing my thoughts down lol
The netcode and hitreg feel off. The animations are kinda weird which makes trying to predict direction of motion as a longer range sniper hard. Also, its just so linear. Its not the sandbox open map that BF is
I only disagree with the gun customization I’m really tired of having to use the same attachments in games like cod and not being able to customize my gun exactly how I want it I don’t think spending an hour figuring out how everything works since that will just be a one time thing
i don't agree with the netcode i have been playing it every day for hours since the second launch and have had 0 server issues but battlefield 2042 was absolutely terrible with the netcode in beta with the air vehicles rubber banding a lot so you can't compare this alpha with battlefields beta
I have logged in today I play about a hour and I quit the game is taken with storm by cheaters they are literaly left right and center and yes I can't tell but for real Im being laser beam from about 100m it's pretty much impossible to have such aim controll and sometimes I headglitch yet going down from insane distans within half sec
Complimenting the vehicle (helicopter) play of Battlefield is just "ew" to me. As someone cominf from a flight sim background, what BF3/4..the entire franchise really does to air vehicles is just jarring. No I don't expect hyper realism at all, and obviously they need to balance the actual destructive level difference and capabilities for gameplay versus how complicated/difficult it is to use and master to still allow for the vehicle to do more than a soldiers work. However, what they do is terribly modeled and unsatisfying. I don't have high hopes for this game either, but the soldier/infantry play looks far better already.
After 2 days of gameplay when i vome back on 2042 i feel like oh this 2042 did good ahahaha. I like delta force a lot, but visual recoil is trash, operator suck(they make good job in variety but too much button ability and forced gadget/weapon) and game feel so clunky, total no vehicle phisics and smooth movement, no custom, no squad management no class management in game or weapon change in game, clunky menu awards system like PUBG(tipical.asian cunfusionary menu). 1 of 2 maps suck, and for compansate lack of design they set redzone randomly obstacolating flank. This game have potential but cant compete with bf smoothness gun fight recoil skill based and class customize system. I like the serious gun looking amd this thing that bring you near objective in any case. For rest of the game is behind bf light year
For me, its more like a better COD than BF. The destruction is even less impactful than 2042s, and even though I adore the weapon customization - it just not scratching my bf itch.
This.
For the last 7-8 years I’ve been draining my life with call of duty but still having a decent time. Around MWII, I wanted to bug out due to it’s toxic community. If anything, I see Hawk Ops “killing” CoD mobile, but not the bf series.
Agree with regards to the destruction.
But you gotta admit. Although they’re not advertising crazy destruction, they are offering a good amount of things and it’s only just an alpha rn. I would say overall makes it a viable option for now
@@WoundedWarrior314 is that mw2(2) or mw2(1)?
@@christianvalenzuela1118 But they advertised destruction; like Ghost said, they made it look like much bigger than it is - its also very static and so far (and es, its an alpha) you cant really predict if a wall gets destroyed or not (shot one with a tank, still stood there - throw c4, boom, destroyed)
Sound is also a problem in my opinion - you just can't hear any footsteps. This makes locating opponents very difficult. It is also very difficult to notice that you are being shot at. And yes, the network code is very bad. I often feel like I'm dying from a bullet, but I often need a whole magazine to kill opponents. Sometimes I had the problem when there were a lot of players in close proximity that no shots hit at all.
there is some sound setting that helps alot for footsteps i would check out. they call it next genration audio something.
I've had the opposite problem where I can hear footsteps just fine, but enemy gunfire is way too quiet, even if I'm right next to an enemy.
The audio is awful imo. Explosions, vehicle and general feeling of "war" is lacking alot. Also vehicles are poor , the wallhacks are cheesey, too many Bots, and the beach map sucks.
So ye 2042 is way better as a BF game as it stands, albeit thats after years of being crappy
Try to turn on "HRTF" option in the audio settings. It improved sound navigation a lot for me
Wow. We’ve done from everyone go “it’s amazing “, to “hmm it’s not great”
This seems disingenuous, Ghost was criticizing the game in his last video too. It's fair to call out content creators for their glazing of this game, but don't apply other people's words to Ghost.
Yeah I mean you just don't know what you think should be changed until you play it a good bit. It had a good first impression on me too but needs some changes.
Hmmm I mean it’s not bad for a F2P 64p big game, but yeah Ghosts criticism here are all valid and I do think this gives Battlefield a good wake-up call for what players really want. I think Delta Force is a good interim game until the next Battlefield, but I know I will be going back to Battlefield. It’s good and I’ve enjoyed the Alpha so far, and I’m excited to see what Delta Force and Battlefield become moving forward.
Payed by EA/DICE maybe ?
He is giving his honest opinion, nothing wrong with that. Are you telling us all that you do not agree with anything that Ghost says?
it's better than 2042 In almost every aspect, that's for sure. However, it will never tops the BF3-BF1 experience. Only the OG DICE dev could deliver that exact experience we longed for.
Everyone I've spoken to re: vehicles disagree. Also hit reg is as bad if not worse than bf1's first 6 months by the sound of it.
loved BF3 but it was not nearly as ready as this game which is in alpha. DICE is known for many things but quality is not one of them, the experience we loved came from months of fixing which I do not miss.
Vehicles, movement, unique ways to play are all worse in Delta Force. It's an alpha so I'll give it a pass, much much better than 2042's alpha.
off course
i hope ea/dice is sweating right now.
Yeah i wish them the worst for pure disappointment...
it's free 2 play, it's economy is probably 10 times more predatory than Battlefield's. people tend to forget why so many people like Battlefield in the first place, especially in today's gaming landscape: progression.
compared to pretty much any other multiplayer shooter on the market Battlefield has kept it's progression fair and engaging for both Battle Pass purchases and people who don't want to spend money.
the weekly challenges are just breezy enough and rewarding enough to not ever feel intrusive and they do keep people coming. Tencent is used to the business model of not just free 2 play model, but the Asian free 2 play model- expect once Hawk Ops to come out to be very anti consmer, and our feedback will not reach Tencent at all, expect the developers to be radio silent on that as well.
I think that it heavily marketed in the US, could be wrong but I think that Tencent might have a bit of a different approach. Might be a reach but who knows.
I don't see enough people worrying about this exact issue. Yeah, the game is great and all, but its free to play, meaning everything is going to be locked behind stupid loot crates, extremely lengthy progression etc
@@andrettransformer just look at PUBG. Tencent is publisher for it too. Everything in PUBG is behind a paywall otherwise the progess is really slow.
I was a bit overwhelmed by the weapon customization (in the context of the BF mode) but now I think it's really good. It let's you really fine tune the weapon to have exactly the amount of recoil you can handle and boost other stats. It really can adapt to your playstyle. I think it's great they got a "Share loadout" feature that seems already functional so I'm sure some pros will share their loadouts with the current meta. Also you can totally not calibrate anything and still get a good amount of customization. Really impressed by the weapon customization. That and the "gunplay" imo are the pillars of this game and the thing I hope they won't touch much.
For me the most annoying thing in the Alpha is the hidden bots. Really didn't like the feeling. Sometimes you would face a bot that would miserably miss you in close quarter, sometimes you do get lasered through smokes and sometimes you get owned by a good real player. In the end you have no real idea of how many bots you faced.
I think in most of my games 1/3 of each teams looked like bots score-wise. I would sometimes get an almost 100% human games once I activated ranks but there is still too many bots. And it is infuriating not to know if they are bots. What about people reporting the bots for cheats ? Isn't it a complete waste of time to let people send reports like that ?
Apart from that, I don't share really the negativity around delta force. I think it's a promising game that achieved better foundations/fundamentals than BF2042 could ever have dreamed of at release. It's obvious to me that these are experienced devs and even though some of their choice are debatable I think they are listening. I don't think they would go as far as removing ops but beside that they seem open to changing stuff for the good.
I guess we will see but for me as a free2play this is good stuff and definitely a BF contender IMHO. If they fix vehicles and manage to make them for immersive and comfortable to drive, I don't see why this could not contend with BF.
PS: A small note on vehicles. To some extent I don't think they are so fundamental to break delta force "momentum" because many BF veterans just don't really like them. Many players are more than happy to just play infantry vs infantry. I play a lot of heli so my experience was bad in that regard in delta force but for many players I don't think they care much about that. Just saying that there is quite a range in the type of people that play battlefield.
Me when I get shot and the killer is behind multiple layers of thick rock. No way they shot me and went behind cover that quickly
2:05 "I don't have any problem with AI players"
yeah I do:
- I'd rather have a slightly empty server that slowly fills up than a server that starts out with 20 AI storming the point.
- AI is programmed to aimbot you, through the tiniest cracks in walls and gaps in smokes it will find you and beam you. You can't disappear in the cover.
- An AI is not "distracted", if you are flanking 5 enemies that are facing away from you, 1 AI player will always turn around and land some hits on you, it is not focussed on whats in front of them but they are programmed to shoot whatever enters their LoS.
- Having no AI at all would increase server + client performance.
on god whos out here having fun while killing bots? u better off playing campaing
They also drain the tickets needlessly on attack, which is especially a problem on ascended where they just bunch up in the tunnel(you can also check how many spawn because they always spawn on land in the beginning), and then ofc there are the players who act like bots and just follow them, overall its a very weird design decision that needs to be highly criticized.
Totally agree with a few things here.
° animations like self heal while moving is bad
° the hidden skill base (which i noticed right on my 2nd game)
° destruction
° specialist
° hidden AI with real names
i've also noticed that the skill rises after a few games. i guess they let you play against bot lobbies for the first 2 or so games so you dont get smashed. after that its mostly players
I kind of figured it out after the first match. I played this 1 day after it released and was number 1 on my team. I probably spent like a good 5 minutes just in the menu tweaking my keybinds and graphic settings too.
Came there to say the same. I also don't know why this yountuber wants it gone all together.
You're playing ranked. They don't tell you this, but there's a small box in the bottom right of the main menu that allows you to disable ranked play. Should be more obvious and not automatically checked.
@@TheBrick534 im facing the same problem what he have that the skill rises after like i played 7 6 games
i dont play rank i play normal but now the game switched from a fun game to an sbmm game after these few games
It’s like xdefiant, everyone is very happy that a has-been franchise now has relevant competition. As a stand alone product, it’s fine.
They have to test out their bot ai somehow. But you're right about the transparency.
I originally thought that I was just blind, but now it makes sense when it comes to AI players. I find myself often times getting lasered through bushes or visual obstacles and when I die, I barely see the tip of the enemies head in the killcam.
Of course it's far from perfect. It's still in Alpha test after all. It will eventually get better. So, don't lose hope.
I've played controller for over 20 years and let me tell you having to learn K&M to play this alpha has been fun. Someone like me appreciates the bots because at least i can kill something lol
Similar to Xdefiant's recent success, it highlights how little regard both COD and Battlefield have today and how separated they are from their core playerbased
added bots because there are limited player in closed tests?
From what they said on discord they gave out 80k keys ( one of the mods said it) as Twitch Drops two days ago alone, I think that's enough players to fill lobbies.
Unless they lied about the amount of keys they gave out.
It definitely felt like I was playing against bots but still had fun! A pretty fun game!
They could be adding bot in deliberately to test the bots. Seems like something you'd want to make sure is working correctly...
It's easy to tell which ones are bots because the way they run around lmao, but I don't think they should remove bots entirely because I'd rather have a full lobby, what difference does it make when real players can take the place of the bots when they join like in battlefield? Not being able to revive while prone also sucks and the vehicles, oh man, the vehicles in this game are horrible. Bad controls and feeling.
As a nedic main I definitely need to be able to revive while crouched or prone. It doesn't even make sense to revive someone that is laying on the ground by standing over them. Regarding bots, I am ok with them filling in while more real players funnel in, but they need to be marked as bots. More so that if I see enemies in n the distance, I can target the real players first.
Lots of AI, you can see how they stand in the middle of the street lol
"Delta Force is feeding on the negative stigma around 2042." truest statement right there. the way everyone has been gargling this game's chode for the past few months has been utterly outrageous, and that is so clearly the reason for it. so far, i haven't seen anything extremely stand-out-ish, but i'm also keeping in mind that this is still pretty far from release status so hopefully by the time it's out, everyone can enjoy Delta Force as its own thing and not as a "Battlefield killer"
Lwt's not kid ourselves, the earlier Delta Force makes it to market before BF 2025 the better. It's popularity is a consolation prize to how badly EA's messed BF up. Their very best bet is EA fails us again
My biggest complaint is weapon balance. The AR's are just too good. I feel like using anything else just puts me at a big disadvantage. The LMG for example has too much recoil when the bipod is deployed. More recoil than a stock AR. With a balance pass this game has a lot of potential!
Finally someone addressing the issues. They are actually not issues but they are certainly concerning. ImO the game heavily needs its own identity. After playing for like 5h, I must say is felt good but most of the times felt like some cheap copy of bf2042 tbh. No doubt the game has a solid base and god level optimization. It just needs some work and I am pretty positive about it. Its just an alpha and it's already better than most of the games
Ehhhh rather go against bots than hardcore sweats tbh
and also
ALPHA
a true ALPHA
Same!
I thought it was me thinking the movement felt sluggish. I had like 200 fps and it felt like I was having like 30. The vehicle physics are horrendous and felt more like COD groundwar. That said its a good free alternative to BF, but don't think it will convince a lot of hardcore BF players.
I've unironically seen numerous comments on RUclips videos saying we want them to "bring back classes," as though Dice is developing this game.
They could be adding bot in deliberately for the purposes of testing the bots, as opposed to doing it because of player numbers. Seems like something a dev would want to make sure is working correctly before release.
If you’ve played tarkov you’d understand the attachment system. It looks exactly like tarkov minus the fine tuning
BF series, EA, Dice has been in the toilet / dead since BF4.
Deltaforce development only goes up from here.
Another note: Your channel descript seems to be more BF centric / loyal.
Time is on Delta Forces side.
BF 1 and 5 were both great games. You must have missed out!
@heldy1234 Those games were what EA force fed the BF gamer simply to boost sales, knowing we would pay for it.
However, none of us wanted to go back in time to WW1 or 2 and not go so far into the future with 2142.
I have played every BF game since PC 1942. Have experienced frostbite at its most destructive in BadCo. 2. BF 3 marked the game where there was a significant decline in destruction in that release, and BF 4 was the beginning of the end for me personally.
I do believe in taking care of the customer/gamer, but EA is only interested in the sale, no matter how bad or how many bugs the game has.
I purchased BF1 and 5, hoping to capture the BF fire, but didn't get what I wanted, which was modern combat. EA got what it wanted, my money.
@@henrygonzalez8564 You may not like the WW1 type of games but you can’t deny that BF1 is one of the most immersive and realistic BF games that captures the game like a movie.I get it that you don’t like the older eras and you prefer the modern eras,but imagine a BF game in modern era with gameplay of BF1 it would be phenomenal
Best destruction still for me was BF1 and BF5. Because there after match map turned in rubble. Sadly EA droped support for both quicly after launch but they could have milked those games like BF3 and 4 with 4-6 DLC's and people actually would have liked it, BF4 did't start ok too but they stuck to it and pulled it through. Delta Force will be a good game to play, it's enjoyable. And maybe one day Dice will actually try to make battlefiel again and not just take whats popular and somehow try to put it into BF, forgetting what BF is about in the first place.
someone thta never played BFBC2 obviously... BF1 was such a letdown destruction wise, BFV was very good tho, way better than BF1 in many fields... gunplay movement, destruction, TTK...
@@SonOfOdin777 BFV is a downgrade to 1 in such a many ways,realism,movement ,immersion,graphics.How can you say that BF V is better when BF V is set in WW2 and you have woman and people with shiny skins like call of duty sliding and bunny hopping in a WW2 game that doesn’t even fit in this era
@@albertosgr9 I'm not talking at all about thae woman with the hook as a prosthetic hand. That was obviously pathetic. But BFV was way better than BF1 in all the important aspects, gunplay, mechanics, vehicles, movement, destruction... BF1 has been hyped too much, but it's just a regular game with nice "atmosphere" whatever the hell that means.
Why does everyone keep saying that DF is a copy of BF, doesn't anyone realize that there's some much devs can do with a saturated game genre in recent years
Beaming Bots are my problem too, beaming across the map and even before you stick your head out of cover.
For an ALPHA it's much better than BF2042 was on release. Plus it's free. If you take both of those into account, then it's a good space for the future.
Agree the AI names are an odd direction choice. I expect this will change after Alpha
You can tell how many ai are in they load in the moment when the match starts and not at the deployment screen. So far the fist day it was about 80% bots and now its seems to be around 50-60% bots
Ghost your critique doesn't seem much fair brother. The situation of battlefield is that i would take this "Alpha" over a "Completed" battlefield from previous few years. The biggest issue for me is that i have a really bad net code with ping being over 300 now. And a on the first day of Alpha it was 100. I normally play Battlefield and COD 47 to 50 ping consistently.
I keep thinking it's still only alpha test. I'm having fun....but.... Movement is a little janky. Vehicles too, though their weapons are crazy. I actually don't mind the operators/specialists maybe because I experienced 2042, but they feel more like soldiers not overwatch heroes.
I hope they can impressed and adjust for the final game because it's different from Battlefield but still same enough that it's got COD. I'm also playing extraction mode the first time and it's fun, though that needs adjustment on ammo and armor.
Weapon customisation is king here. And yes lot of players gona use it . Dont worry
I like it, I played the old games back in the day. Current FPS games are stale and full of hackers.
remember when they call World War 3 a BF killer? Yeah, that worked out well.
I can handle all the problems at the moment. I'm just really nervous for when crossplay is enabled. I truly hope they balance aim assist, etc.
Playing AD mode as soon as I got in the match I knew I was playing with mostly BOTS. They are easy to spot. But I will give DICE credit..there AI BOTs are much more convincing.
Well, I'm just scared the servers can't handle the amount of real players "advertised" in the first place...
I think they will be able to improve the game after making some money from it to hire better developers for the things they are lacking in. I hope they make the right decision to hire more developers to improve the game
i dont mind specialists as long as their abilities are disabled for the battlefield modes.
Cant agree more with this evaluation, i was honestly drastically dissapointed in the game. This is no BF killer
i dont get how bf claims to be a realistic military shooter and not having in depth gun customization... they always have been holding back and giving players less than deserve. I realy hope this game does well and bf gets ''dethroned''.
Remains to be seen what new bf game has in the store, if it doesnt blow our mind i think it will be their first bf game falling down the hill badly !
Micro transactions without all the weird operations can very easily been pulled of as well if you ask me. Its just the decision that the studio took to go with hero like characters instead of more gritty faceless soldiers
I have no problem with AI in the game, as long as they make it PERFECTLY distinct they're AI players by either adding a tag or making them use generic bot skins (which I wish I could use...BF2042...), having them have names and show up on the leaderboard is incredibly disingenuous.
Ofc people dislike the grappling hook. It should be like it was in bf special forces. Or one time use and get a ammo crate to restock. All heroes in bf sucks. No1 wants them. We just want bf3 bf4 style again. Good bf Game
We've gone from some of the greatest fps games ever made, BF3, 4, 1, to trying to play the least bad game.
the game is good but after few games the sbmm will destroy u
and u will play games with very good players and you cant even kill 1 or 2
its a good game but i nevber thought it was "amazing" its way better then 2042, but theres somee things i dont like. Audio for example, you cannot hear ANY footsteps at all, so if someone gets past one of your teammates that you thought was covering the back, then youre dead, no way of knowing that person lost and that someone got behind you. jumping feelslike your floating its a little weird, feels like youre on the moon. I do like that the choppers suck, its nice especially coming from battlefield where they just dominate. The game mode i don't like, never been a fan of breakthrough, its just holding angles and headglitching till someone peaks. LOVE the visual recoil, its nice knowing how my gun is moving when i shoot to make adjustments. Also think the movement feels a little dated, not a fan of not being able to slide unless youre a specific operator.
So a few problems in this video. 1. The TTK is not that quick and 2. The movement isn't that quick either regardless of sensitivity. Very Very Strange
Honestly aside from the issues (deployment screen is weird) I feel Havoc Warfare feels off Vs the Extraction Mode. I mean with them keep mentioning it's a Tactical Shooter which is true for Extraction Shooter but not so for Havoc Warfare. Why are their Supply Stations for Infantry and Vehicles with the current mechanics? Are they planning a more tactical mode (not hardcore with lower health values and no reduced UI)?
not sure bf1 was a monumental success, a lot of ppl was trashing it with shit like "there wasnt any machineguns in ww1" and thought it was a worse experience than bf4 and 3. also just look at crowbcats bf1 video.
I play the engineer for the g3. Its absolutely cracked with the righg attachments
I also hate their appaorach to the beta sign up. So you have to sign up for the alpha for a chance to get access, on steam and on the website. I know atleast 10 people that have done both on the website and on steam, none of us got the key. I think they limited it by A LOT, in order to get people to watch the streams for the key drops to make delta force the top watched channel on twitch. They dont care if you watch it or not they just want it to be at the top. So its sorta scummy. Then they make you take a survey on their website for the access key and you styill dont get it, the only way to really get it is twitch drops, and at specific times, i think they do it at these specific times so like august 10th at 6pm, so that around that time delta force shoots up in views and its at the top of the twitch views again.
“Now second guessing this amazing round I had was against AI” id say the AI is better than the majority of real players so if you have a good match against AI I would give yourself a pat on the back
game is awesome first 10 hours ,but now my launcher just says network error and i did everything to fix it but no luck cant play
I'll play it for a while but this isn't the game that'll get me back to online shooters.
wait your telling me I died in tactical turmoil through smoke because it was a bot...
that explains alot. why are bots other than "scavs" TT though
Ai soldier should redisplay to robotic, to avoid confusion with human player and human ai before or later on releases
The main reason for the hype may well be the fact that fans are not happy with cod/bf games and gaming industry in general. Particularly the battlefield community is starving.
Lets face the truth, we’re all at this game to scratch our bf itch bc bf doesn’t deliver. And it’s highly likely that we could be disappointed at the end of the day.
i only faced bots for the first or second games of each modes, after that i've just been getting smashed by real players
Operator model in DF is due to free to play (for cosmetic selling). But BF is a paid game. So it doesn't need that model at all.
... giving them credit like they won't put paid transactions in their next paid game. COD is selling $24 skin bundles weekly and EA 100% wants to get away with that too
@@jkteddy77 If they wanna make that happen inorder to sell skins, then create a free to play BR or DMZ mode and confine operator model within that. For Conquest, Breakthrough, rush, control like modes, no operator must be involved.
It's decent. Not an amazing BF game and definitely not a BF killer (DICE has already done that lol) but it's definitely something that'll hold me over till the next BF
Gunplay feels worse than 2042, I despise the gun customization (but I'm someone who liked what V did so I might not be the best judge) and the vehicles feel eh.
I do enjoy the maps, and am curious to see what they're like in a CQ style game mode. I do think the class system is an improvement over 2042, though that's not saying much given how 2042s system still doesn't really work
minor complaints
all of this can be fixed
this game needs to succeed
battlefield is dead
we need a true competitor
the best part about this game is that theres not an ea or dice logo anywhere
Tencent, Chinese...... That's enough red flags for me not to get hyped up about this game.
Even if I can understand the enthusiasm of many creators that food can finally be presented on the channels again: Guys, it's a F2P game (4 years in development and therefore somehow to be refinanced!) From China! How naive can you be?
I'd rather wait for BF 2025, which will either be awesome or the final nail in the franchise coffin.
I fully agree with the operators and some insane gadgets. Way too over the top and copying the wrong things from BF2042 to be honest. Also the movement feels mega clunky.
I honestly dont agree with it being better than 2042. 2042 is bad for sure but DF is literally just holding the same leaned headglitch as 20 other people and getting instantly melted. You don't get to be aggressive at all
Apparently we are not able to make bug/issue reports on Discord, we are locked out so what is the point of your Alpha then?. No server browser (played Ascension 8 times in a row), Cracked round froze completely, had to quit a round because of zero hit detection, players with no enemy/friendly tag, frames go from 160 to 70, players running in place, and being killed by enemy before they have rendered on my screen, deploy map make no sense you deploy nowhere near where you select be it a squad mate/vehicle/spawn point very disorienting, finally the tedious complexity to events, rewards, level ups etc.
It's F2P, it's going ro operate structly on daily logins. What you don't pay in money, you always pay in time. This one might just not be for you
For me it’s not having the ability to change weapons and attachments mid match
to say EA and battlefield have nothing to fear seems incredibly ignorant since we have absolutely no idea if the next BF is gonna be a even bigger dumpster fire than 2042
great! my exact thoughts.
Honestly I feel disappointed in Delta Force just because it’s an actual copy that tries to compete with 2042 instead of something better like bf4 anyways I really think that they were aiming to compete with BF but instead it looks like an another “COD killer” somehow yet more BF’ish than you can imagine at least they’ve a good gunplay so no one can be mad about it 😒
Wish it was more hardcore Milsim with a more slower pace instead of a fast paced for arcade skill issue casuals. So far at least the extraction mode seems better than dmz… if only they do the same for the battlefield mode. I feel like the pve only people ruin the player base… I hope the devs don’t cater to them anymore especially in other new similar games.
China. I’ll wait for the next BF game.
I'll never understand the point of calling something "game killer" its never going to be, people very rarely change games intirely they want a bf they will only play bf. Its like WoW so many " wow killers " have been made yet all those players dont want another game they want to have the feeling of the wow they miss. Hopefully this makes sense im not very good at writing my thoughts down lol
The visual recoil with this zoom scope is abhorrent. I was getting a headache just from watching.
The netcode and hitreg feel off. The animations are kinda weird which makes trying to predict direction of motion as a longer range sniper hard.
Also, its just so linear. Its not the sandbox open map that BF is
There is a conquest mode
@@totalguardian1436 where? It always puts me in a rush/breakthrough type mode
@@globalmalfunction It was talked about but will probably be added later in this alpha
I don't see any bots now... it's obvious in the first few games, the AI are dumb AF
happy there isnnt conquest gamemode.. that is ruin of bf.. rush should be the main like old bc2 and bf3 skilled gameplay, also breaktrought is good
In Sydney I get matched to US or EU or Asia servers super laggy!
I was with you until the end of the video.
Wait, you're telling me the game that was stealing assets was lying? I'm shocked 😲
No offense to you Ghost just making fun.
What assets?
@@totalguardian1436 They stole CoD Mobiles Assets. Just compare reloads and animations.
@@stormer9952 Cuz they are literally the COD Mobile devs?
@@stormer9952 What animations? Placeholders are long gone
@totalguardian1436 Look at the running animations and certain reloads still have the same reload as CoD Mobile. They're stealing assets plain as day.
Yeah the operators aren't great. I just want to be a damn soldier dude.
What kind of engineer has sonic traps? 😂
I only disagree with the gun customization I’m really tired of having to use the same attachments in games like cod and not being able to customize my gun exactly how I want it I don’t think spending an hour figuring out how everything works since that will just be a one time thing
This game showed us not how much Delta Force is good, but how much 2042 is bad.
i don't agree with the netcode i have been playing it every day for hours since the second launch and have had 0 server issues but battlefield 2042 was absolutely terrible with the netcode in beta with the air vehicles rubber banding a lot so you can't compare this alpha with battlefields beta
Did dice make this crumbling game with tons of probs I am thinking they did Chinese dice lmao
I have logged in today I play about a hour and I quit the game is taken with storm by cheaters they are literaly left right and center and yes I can't tell but for real Im being laser beam from about 100m it's pretty much impossible to have such aim controll and sometimes I headglitch yet going down from insane distans within half sec
All I care about is Anti Cheat get that right and we cooking 👊😎
Top notch
Complimenting the vehicle (helicopter) play of Battlefield is just "ew" to me. As someone cominf from a flight sim background, what BF3/4..the entire franchise really does to air vehicles is just jarring. No I don't expect hyper realism at all, and obviously they need to balance the actual destructive level difference and capabilities for gameplay versus how complicated/difficult it is to use and master to still allow for the vehicle to do more than a soldiers work. However, what they do is terribly modeled and unsatisfying. I don't have high hopes for this game either, but the soldier/infantry play looks far better already.
After 2 days of gameplay when i vome back on 2042 i feel like oh this 2042 did good ahahaha. I like delta force a lot, but visual recoil is trash, operator suck(they make good job in variety but too much button ability and forced gadget/weapon) and game feel so clunky, total no vehicle phisics and smooth movement, no custom, no squad management no class management in game or weapon change in game, clunky menu awards system like PUBG(tipical.asian cunfusionary menu). 1 of 2 maps suck, and for compansate lack of design they set redzone randomly obstacolating flank. This game have potential but cant compete with bf smoothness gun fight recoil skill based and class customize system. I like the serious gun looking amd this thing that bring you near objective in any case. For rest of the game is behind bf light year
It's an alpha.
As soon as u said the bots arent being labeled i lost all interest in the game
Are we playing a Alpha Version or not .... Come on