*lol* If it's ITF sparring rules, it would be so deadly for the WTF guy since no protection for the chest and the stomach and the ITF guy would have higher chance to punch the WTF guy in the face.
wouldn't affect the outcome since ITF isn't full contact. but your right once they allowed head shots the WTF guy would have a tattoo punched into his head.
you two have it totally backwards. You have to get inside the kick for punch to work at all. ITF would have his head kicked off before he was in range to punch. Only way he would win is if WTF guy was disqualified for excessive force (which is likely i guess).
go watch some old kickboxing video's there basicly ITF but full contact. then tell me how come the end up inside punching to the head? even in WTF they end up in clinches that's the point where they would get punched in the head. just because they don't go full contact in the tournaments doesn't mean they can't. so long as both fighters are fighting by the same rules.
i guess your right about the clinch but WTF never trains soft (and you never want to be in a clinch anyway). There is that whole muscle memory thing to consider. If your muscles don't train to hit hard than they wont remember to hit hard. ITF also don't remember to combo because fight stops to often.
@@abrahamm.sugondo5562 I think it just depends on the type of master you have and how well you practice, like most of the problems for WTF practitioner sparring with ITF rules is getting used to being punched in the face.
My two daughters (11 and 14 years old) train in the ITF since 4 years ago. They don't train with contact. But three times in the last year they have used it successfully in the street, even in situations with no physical advantage. I have to thank ITF Tae Kwon Do for this.
i used to do both... started as a ITF hwoarang and now im doing wtf and i have to say do not let the look of the armour and the acrobatics fool ya wtf is mean. i have been beaten more in wtf than itf.. and the no punch to the face rule makes it difficult for a guy like me with long arms. the protectors makes it that people kick more and hit you more. in itf every kick had a toll so all of a sudden your fighting style seems to change a bit because of the damage you sustain. I also while practicing ITF made the mistake to think wtf was a joke but they are both taekwondo the wtf guys have a different aproach to training and sparring. in some way they are more athlete's and they want to take there abilities to new heights. ITF was more about the martial art and the DO (way of taekwondo). that you could take your entire life becoming better. WTF because of how competitive they are this guys work out and train so different. if you want to sit behind a keyboard complain try them both and you will know the true differences and you will understand my words.
Haha even I’ve done both. If you’ve watched naruto, you’ll understand. WTF is like the Uchiha clan. Competitive and ruthless. ITF is like the Senju clan. Cultural and patient.
Jango Nauta Yeah The blue fighter Is a joke though. Whining and complaining like it’s a soccer match. ITF teaches much more to train the warrior mindset.
The moment I see a TKD fight start and the arms dangle instead of being a guard I drop out. Use your arms goddamn it. Better yet fight full contact with ITF rules of punching. I am 2. kup under ITF and WTF. I have to say that I favor the style I learned under ITF rules. It feels more complete as a martial art. Still not appliccable without cross training for self defense but ascfor your protective reflexes in combat you are better off than WTF. I am a heavy weight (100 kg) so fancy acrobatics aren't for me anyways.
Trained under ITF rules for nine years but just today quit my job of almost two years as a WTF Instructor. I'm going back to ITF. WTF teaches explosiveness, more kicking dexterity and a more competitive mental attitude. However, explosiveness doesn't necessarily translate to power, and a competitive mindset is different to a combative mindset. The primary reason I train martial arts is self-defence, self-discipline and mental toughness, which is what ITF excels in teaching. We have arms. It doesn't make sense not to use them.
I'm an old Wtf nerd. 1981-2000. But I would like to have learned itf too. There are some "twists" to the kicks and how they're delivered that I'm secretly jealous of. But now I'm 49, live on a small island in Thailand so maybe in my next life 😊
there is no next life... do the things you want to do now, cuz you only have one life. Why do we always leave some things we want to do just bc we already do other things? like, even tho there is plp who dont believe in reincarnation, we still think as if we had some time later, but its just one life.
if you are trying to show the difference, you can not use just one rule system, because it gives that style an advantage. let them loose by both rules system and see who is the better fighter. The ITF fighter would total dominate the fight if he would be allowed to use his fighting system..I have seen a lot of these videos and it always WTF rules, are they to afraid of loosing to the ITF?
Michael Tippett That still doesn't work. In order to really test it, it should be a no rule full contact fight. If that were the case I could use any throwing and self defense techniques I wanted and not just kicking and punching. Kicking and punching isn't the entire martial art
Michael Tippett. The only thing that wasn't allowed was shots to the head w/ the fist. If you host the match with "balanced rules"(punches to the face allowed) then it'll still boil down to whose the better fighter. You're trying to say that system is better and not the fighter!
Combine the rules I believe. Put boxing gloves on and allow face and body punches. But still score kicks in a similar way. Take away all electronic scoring and score it like any other combat sport.
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 your so arrogant calling people morons and ignorant everyone entitled to their opinions. I have done both WTF and ITF so i know my shit and there is no difference in kick strength there is definitely the same amount of contact plus ITF get to use punches. I back both styles but ITF does take the cake.
ITF fighter under WTF rules, Of course the ITF fighter would lose. A major component of ITF fighting is punching to the head, which isn't allowed in WTF.
I was a Blackbelt in ITF and I also currently a Blackbelt in WTF and I believe ITF is better for sparring as i was always in the heavy weight category because I am shorter but I could use my hand techniques to get in and score against taller opponents and WTF is good but due to the fact you can only punch to the chest to score it is a lot harder to gain an advantage and when you look at WTF fighters they are tall where ITF has a larger variety of fighters of all sizes. There seems to be a lot of negative comments towards ITF and I have seen fighters of all grades sparring and people think ITF is semi contact all the time when it isn't and ITF don't wear chest protectors. People who have done both styles would probably have a similar opinion. WTF is in the olympics while ITF can't be because of ITF, TAGB which are pretty much follow the same rules aren't allowed in the olympics for political reasons. The Olympic committee won't allow poomsae in the olympics which is mainly what is practiced in clubs and sparring attracts people in joining although there is a England poomsae squad.
NO THAT IS NOT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. in wtf you can connect and fall to the ground and it will still be valid, in ITF you can not fall to the ground. in wtf the fight stop on each point scored. In ITF the fight is continuous and only stops if theres an infraction. in wtf your arms are useless. in ITF you can punch body and face, either on the floor or jumping. those are the main differences, and theres more. if they used ITF regulations. the WTF guy would get his face filled with punches. then you would see that there is a very big difference. it would make more sense to use ITF rules, adding tools for both fighters and not wtf rules where it gets more limited.
Liquidcadmus wtf allows punching but not to the face and besides this fighter was fast, if he fought under ITF ruling, then the result will end the same. Wtf fighter have fast punches and they always land on a chest guard perfectly. All he has to do is slide in and bam instant point. Not those ITF punches that look like sloppy brawl punches
Liquidcadmus in wtf you don't stop and go, the only time they stop is when the fighter falls but point is valid, or if a clinch has gone on too long. Get your shit straight
Every single hand-hand style allows punching to the face in a match. You're gonna say it's unfair since BOTH fighters can do that? They can still punch the body. There are no rules on either side saying you can't.
Jay-Ian Pabilan Itf, Wtf, it doesn't matter. WTF fighters move more freely. Just because their hands are down, doesn't make them bad fighters, it's what's comfortable. There are no rules saying you can't keep your hands up. These fighters need to condition their feet. As a WTF fighter, some of my upper class-men were surprised when I didn't get hurt when I kept hitting their elbows. I was surprised too, but I knew my conditioning was working. And made their elbows feel sore since i would go 50% lmao. WTF is not weak, just needs to wake up.
+Jay-Ian Pabilan actually in the old days, in the 80s, we trained without letting our guard down. but since it has become more sport, letting guard down is to lure opponent to make a move and more relax to execute faster kicks. personally i train with my guard up. reason is i am older, slower now and no more fancy kicks. what i can do as a young man, now i cannot. i only limit. a few simpler kicks with lots of power, a lot more hand techniques.
im here to say that i respect both two distinct styles WTF and ITF. It doesnt matter who wins or loses, all different types of martial arts are perfect. Its just a matter of question of who and what are the capabilities of that person. Now if you guys are gonna keep going about which style is better youre looking at it wrong both styles are perfect in combat both used in the military its just depends on how they utilize the style if you know how to adapt in combat whatever what martial art you are practicing will be perfect. WTF sparring has a different focus just because they only show kicking that doesnt mean in self defense they dont use fist or takedowns to bring down an enemy this sparring is a sport not combat. while for ITF its sparring is more focused in combat so most of the time its self defense focused like kickboxing but all this doesnt matter as long as we respect other martial arts and martial artist because if you dont youre a shame in the name of MARTIAL ART FOR FORGETTING THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT IN MARTIAL ARTS : RESPECT. STOP THE BASHING BETWEEN ITF AND WTF.
Both we're actually quite excellent. You rarely see such a close match up like this when it comes to different regulations and/or style match ups. Even though the ITF fighter was fighting in a different rule set, he did really well. I think it goes to show that even though both use different rules, it's still Taekwondo at the core. Great fight, thanks for uploading.
1. Fact: Both of them is a good fighter. Any one of them would KO-ed their opponent if they made a mistake. 2. I practice both ITFand WTF. ITF: Self Defence+Art WTF: Sports 3. Basic is the same. Its all depends on the practitioner and how their instructor trained them. Taekwando=ITF/WTF Love both of them.
Eso fue wtf vs wtf. Los que hacemos TAEKWON-DO ITF usamos los puños sea a la cara o a la zona media. Quiero creer que eso fue un show. Y antes de irme aclarar que solo hay 1 Taekwon-do y es el ITF. EL ORIGINAL, el que creo el general Choi Hong Hi.
yo decia que tiene las manos de adorno no uso los puños no hizo amagues hago tkd itf desde el 2003,el de wtf peleo bien pero si el de itf usaba los puños seguro ganaba
@@DavidVallejo337 Yah, sí lo es. La WTF es como esgrimir con los pies. La ITF es mejor en una pelea. Quizás la ITF sea lo suficientemente buena para los Juegos Olímpicos
***** But it's not one, i mean, check almost every video of WTF "knockouts" or highlights... Granted those kicks are insanely effective if you're fighting one person and if, and that's a big *IF* you manage to land the shot to the face or head but after that most practitioners land on their back or face ... i've never got used to that, then again, i dont practice TKD WTF so fuck me in the eye socket,i guess...
Both are very good fighters, I've studied both ITF and WTF, both have their advantages and disadvantages, depends on the fighter, timing, experience, etc, rules only come into effect when both are evenly matched. Great sparring.
May I know the differences? I think I am learnig WTF style (although we don't really make a distinction here, I only learnt about the two types online) and I'd like to learn its pros and cons, and also that of ITF.
Fue una muy buena pelea de los dos chicos. Es el mejor video de wtf vs itf que se puede ver en la web hoy. La tecnica de cada uno es muy prolija y el estilo bien actualizado.
I trained kyokushin karate for 18 years, and boxing for 8 years. For 3 years I trained ITF tkd to spice up my foot techiqes. With kyo backgrounds itf tkd with boxing are a good choice. Last year a went back to the kyo dojo and started to train at an mma gym. I very thankful for itf, it helped me a lot, to land various kick combinations, I blowed my kyo training partners mind. And itf has more punches which are helpful. Never underestimate punching, if you're trying to win in a k1 or mma match.
There is no wtf vs itf. Just a competition between two fighters (each one from different styles) under WTF rules. After WTF inserted its system into the olympic games, this art became to collapse. How do you think you may defeat your adversary using just your feet? There is gap since the creation of TKD as a martial art and present knowledge... TKD was developed to be a complete system of training using your arms and feet. The stress on using the feet was just provide the fighter with an extra combat tool at long distance fighting. Nowadays I see no use of bare hands for boxing or grappling techniques. Every Poomsae stress the need to use this. There several ways to hit using fingers (sonkut), bare hand (son), fist (chumok), elbow (palmuk) in different combination to provide the fighter with several fighting techniques for close combat...
As an ITF styled practitioner, I'd be pretty sweet if there was Full Contact for ITF styled organizations as the norm just like WTF, as KOs are well encouraged.
Corinne Robison Thats right. And that is the reason why ITF and Taekwondo should be one Taekwondo. Taekwondo could much more famous with WTF and ITF together.
Jamuna Napit Yeah, the Kukkiwon demonstration with athletes from WTF and ITF was a first good step. But the idea with one world and one Taekwondo should be alive and followed.
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Y'all gotta kill this cognitive bias between WTF & ITF. Both systems are different but neither is greater than the other. We gotta acknowledge that both systems aren't the total package in the world of Martial Arts and Fighting Sport. My foundation is WTF, but I acknowledge it's weakness and train in other disciplines to be more complete as I possible can.
The fights are run very differently. WTF in this match had an advantage because if wtf regulations, although it was small and the ITF should have been able to adapt. It may or may not have been different under ITF regulation. At the end of the day it's skill. The WTF fighter here was clearly more comfortable. Two different fighters and maybe the ITF would have won. Can't judge on one fight.
I've trained ITF and WTF. And certainly can say ITF is much much better. But I have to say on ITF version I've been trained by Korean. It was much more than full contact. We trained how to use TKD on a street. We used throws, grapplings, punches and kicks. I've been on one tournament and I've broke a nose to the guy with punch. And also, unfortunately, I used it on a street as a defence, and it was very successfully. On WTF we were trained only for tournaments. There were no creativity. And we were equipped with full armor. On ITF we had only gloves. No halmets and other stuff. Also on WTF we had semi contact trainings. When I came on my first WTF training, and when they saw my skills they put me in the best group and sad to me that they have plans for me, and I will be very successefull in TKD. They wanted me to go on tournaments. And that was not the reason why I trained TKD. I trained for a few years and I stopped just because I never learned something new on WTF. So if you're training or you have trained ITF, and it is semi or no contact, than it is not ITF. ITF is much harder than WTF. ITF is a martial art, and WTF is just a sport. And I had a chance to prove the power of ITF on the street many times, and also I had a chance to compare it.
Adrijano Hafner I train WTF, and I have the fortune to be training in a dojang where we learn to use a wide variety of techniques like you just said... I don't think one is more complete than the other... I believe most WTF academies only focus on tournaments so they forget Taekwondo is the art of fighting with your feet AND hands. And... unfortunately, I can see a lot of students not taking seriously the poomsae and all the trainings we do on the real art... so they aren't that good at using their hands...
I trained Korean WTF. I am sorry to inform you that WTF is much much harder kicking (that's why the extra gear). I sparred WTF and ITF, Good WTF teacher is clear that street fight and ring fight are totally different types of training and WTF offers both
Jenufer Lawrenz no the origin of taekwondo is karate shotokan. The founder of tkd studied shotokan before taekwondo. He has just add few techniques of taekyon to make a difference with shotokan
Listen, I train wtf and all itf defendants are saying that it's incomplete and arms should be allowed etc. No technical punching actually happens in itf it's just some ridiculous arm swinging that has no impact. Either way, both are an effective form of self defence. No street fighter will expect a head kick and that's it.
I've done both most of my life but decided to stay ITF. For the more traditional approach ive studied boxing and some karate also its true WTF is more about the points but they also teach good self defence the kicks are technical but if the practitioner gets caught up in the points aspect when in a real fight they may loose because of the fancy points kicks. A lot of ITF schools don't teach the same kicking stategies or allow you to compete in many hard-full contact events but i have. ITF is more simular to Karate in my opinion the techniques are more focused towards stopping a fight instead of continuous sparing (wtf) the reason for the chest pad is the kicks aren't held back so its a protection thing if Itf didn't make you to learn to control your power while sparing people would get hurt. ITF full contact hurts if your not ready for it. they both teach tenants of TKD embrace both learn from each other
This isn't wtf vs itf this is a wtf fight its like fighting a muay thai fighter and dont allow him to knee / clinch or elbow or throw a taekwondo guy in a boxing ring and do a boxing match.
what I personally found a bit shitty in ITF was, many did box and then came in TKD. Allways tryed to getting you in a short distance to make KO. With ITF I have only one question, what we does, kickboxing or taekwon-do? So definitely WTF did it well.
Si estan combatiendo con las reglas WT claramente ITF tendra desventajas, ya que utilizan mas los puños en zonas altas y medias, mas altas que nada, me atreveria a decir que usan 45% puños y el resto pateos, golpean de otra manera, debio ser con reglas ITF y WT aprender a bloquear mas la cabeza. PD: Practico WT, trato de defender lo justo
Hermano, habrán otras peleas con las reglas del ITF, no hay necesidad de rebuscar para tirarle mierda al WTF. Fue una increíble pelea entre dos estilos diferentes, y si no estas conforme, pues no mires el vídeo y busca el de tu preferencia
Me too I feel like ITF players should respect WTF more like it is both Taekwondo I haven't met one WTF player who didn't respect or critisize the ITF style but every ITF player seems to have a total grudge of hatred towards WTF and finds everyway to bash it
Potatoes Are Good For You as a person who does ITF I think that we should respect WTF more, I actually think that WTF sparring looks much better than ITF sparring
Salamonio ITF was created first before WTF and yes, usually WTF sparring mostly seems like use feet often than hands ITF use hands and feet but yeah although I’m an ITF tkd guy i admit wtf sparring looks fun and cool
wow very good game and Red,Blue player respectbut... i think this fight rule is WTF taekwondo.so this game is advantage blue player.. Don`t u think so?i think WTF taekwondo is sports. ITF taekwondo is fight.if rule change the ITF , WTF taekwondo must loose..( i think!!!!!!!!)because WTF Kick = just point not Attack..im Korean taekwondo teacher..(WTF teacher)many people say taekwondo is just kickin... no.. never...use hand, finger, knee, elbow.. a lot of body move..but many old man secret history and change..very confuse :
JustOneLonelyRUclipsr a turning kick to the face is worth 3 points so even if he falls and potentially gets a red card point lost, he still gains two points ahead.
GhenghisKhangai he gains points for failed kick? are you positive about that? because it is much easier to go for head kicks when you arent worried about falling
You guys forget that there's more to WTF than just kicking. Sparring isn't the whole martial art. In a sparring match there are rules that you must follow, the biggest difference between ITF and WTF Tkd sparring matches is that you can punch. In a real street fight a WTF fighter (like me) could easily dominate others when using self defense techniques and punches. WTF also uses punches a lot just not in the sparring part. That's the difference, the actual techniques are very similar since they both just branch off one another so the only real difference are the sparring RULES.
No Data it depends though. If you don't practice punches in sparring, how will you use it in a street fight. I don't practice Axe kick because punching is faster and I just don't like it. Since I don't use it in a controlled fight, I wouldn't be able to effectively use it in an uncontrolled. If you don't practice it it doesn't work, end of story.
It is so wrong.. i do sanda, we spare with kicks, punches and throws... I practice that all the time, how do you think you can handle punches from a guy that can land punches on the face of people that are used to defend against that kind of Attack when you are not used to ? It's like thinking as an amateur boxer you could defeat a pro bower ! That's very delusional !
I practiced WTF for 7 years, I'm 3rd Kup... I had some interruptions so I got a bit late, I could be 1st Kup xD. Whatever, since I moved of my country, 3 years ago I stopped practicing, and now I want back in... But I'm woundering if I should keep on WTD cause I'm experient or if I should try something new, like WTF... And will I lose my belt? Opinions? Answers? :D
Well, that depends if the master of the school you going to practice accept your belt, like my master did, that he accept a green belt of karate to stay on that rank. Anyway, I don't think you stay with your belt on ITF cuz ITF have diferents poomsae and differents styles of combat.
Like I said, depends on the master, like my master did, he lets that guy keep his belt because my master was a humble person and let him keep de green belt. But you can talk to the master of the ITF school you want to go, maybe he let you keep your belt. The only thing that really matters are the poomsae cuz the kicks are the same and the blocks, the fighting combat has a little change but just try to convince him or something. I hope you can keep it.
This is an ITF invitational fight, so technically we are surrounded by ITF players. But the ref is WTF and while we try to be fair on rules, turns out to looks like WTF. The only thing that's lost in the rule is punching in the face. Hope that's fair enough.
@@kinkin4370 I myself is WTF so I really dont know what ITF rules all about. Im just assuming the difference is having or not having a punch on the face.
Aaron Sim I don't practice taekwondo but Muay Thai, and in my opinion I liked the Blue one better considering he used speed which is one thing that counter strength all the time. And I've fought both ITF and WTF fighters, out of all of them the WTF fighters rely on "explosion" and timing.
Guys, its not about itf or wtf, if u are a shit at tkd goinf itf won't make u do a progress. its just about the technique and knowledge of taekwondo, the same martial art is practiced with same shit. Itf=wtf
I have watched many fights for both WTF and ITF fighting other martial arts like Karate. I have never seen ITF showing the real skill of Tae Kwon Do in real fights other than throwing punches that don't even have impact on the opponent
The true Taekwondo, ''Taekwondo ITF'' from General Choi Hong Hi (I am a red belt; almost a black belt) and... Taekwondo Wtf have some good fighters and it's too popular as sport, that's the difference, Itf is a martial art, wtf is a sport
Portugues não homem, fala Espanhol ou Inglês. Quão pouco o tradutor me ajudou a entender Vou te dar duas respostas, número um, eu tenho vídeos na internet, mas se eu tiver 3 medalhas Primeiro, eu não acho que melhor do que qualquer um desses lutadores e se eu acho taekwondo ITF é superior como arte marcial wtf. Eu não quero presucion ou humor a subestimar o esporte estilo taekwondo (wtf) Eu digo isso porque eu estou nesse mundo. Por favor, fale Espanhol ou Inglês.
In my opinion, tkd wtf is not a martial art, it's a sport of contact... and because of tkd wtf, ('cause almost nobody knows the difference) most of the people thinks taekwondo is bullshit comparing to another martial art, but they don't understand that wtf don't train punches or full contact moves, that's why if they don't get a lucky hit; they are not challenge for another real martial art. Although taekwondo wtf has incredible fighters, what is bullshit is the way that they turned taekwndo into a sport.
+Leonel E. Romero, wtf use hand only to the chest not the head. Full contact I was trying to say full power. ITF does sparring with control because if not is considered as excess of power. Different rules same origin. Love Tkd of any school. Saludos
Watch more fights, there are punches being thrown, its just risky to do in a WTF fight. But it's allowed. Better yet, go to a WTF school and see of yourself.
As a wtf fight I fought 4 ITF fighter from 2 different school and without gear and I had beat them. Just because they can punch to the face doesn't make it effective. Besides fighting like a 2-D character was never effective lmao
***** yes it is both interpretations of taekwondo became well known around the same time. I've used. My skill of wtf style in a real fight. I also used it against an amateur Thai fighter local to me. His ribs and arms met my foot and that was the end
El competidor de WTF es superior en todo sentido, el de ITF solo abanicaba su pierna delantera mientras el otro le conectaba patadas potentes inclusive al rostro y cabeza. WTF gana!!
This isn’t to prove which is better, this is to show the outcome of if one style fought a with another, if ITF wins it doesn’t mean it’s better, if WTF wins it doesn’t mean it’s better
The best way to see which one is better is a fight with rules like Kick Boxing: Without helmet and chest protectors, only with gloves, full contact, with punching in the face and mainly without the constant interruptions of the referee (I mean continuos combat all the round). And of course scores like in boxing (winner or losser by every round, not by every hit). Forgive my bad English.
Apart from scoring system I am not certain I see much difference. Where are punches (from what I understand they are allowed to the body in the scoring system) or the deflective blocks? The fighters are not creating angles on each other. Just trading.
@@vincentvlegaspi 1 year later I know better! I was so excited to try sparring! No dice yet! Hopefully there will come some kind of opportunity to spar like some of the boxing and mma gyms have been able to do. For now I wait for my chance to give it a go!
Learned WTF for about 6 years, but i support ITF because WTF removed too much of original TKD moves in order to join the olympics.
Now I want to see them fight according to ITF sparring rules.
*lol* If it's ITF sparring rules, it would be so deadly for the WTF guy since no protection for the chest and the stomach and the ITF guy would have higher chance to punch the WTF guy in the face.
wouldn't affect the outcome since ITF isn't full contact. but your right once they allowed head shots the WTF guy would have a tattoo punched into his head.
you two have it totally backwards. You have to get inside the kick for punch to work at all. ITF would have his head kicked off before he was in range to punch. Only way he would win is if WTF guy was disqualified for excessive force (which is likely i guess).
go watch some old kickboxing video's there basicly ITF but full contact.
then tell me how come the end up inside punching to the head? even in WTF they end up in clinches that's the point where they would get punched in the head.
just because they don't go full contact in the tournaments doesn't mean they can't. so long as both fighters are fighting by the same rules.
i guess your right about the clinch but WTF never trains soft (and you never want to be in a clinch anyway). There is that whole muscle memory thing to consider. If your muscles don't train to hit hard than they wont remember to hit hard. ITF also don't remember to combo because fight stops to often.
Congratulations WTF. Now try with ITF rules.
Yes
WTF will get clapped
@@abrahamm.sugondo5562 what are the differences in rules that would change the fight? I dont know much about Taekwondo that's why im asking
@@johonanandrewgomes7593 in ITF there is no body gaurds and you can punch the face
I'm not sure about the rest because Ive only done WTF
@@abrahamm.sugondo5562 I think it just depends on the type of master you have and how well you practice, like most of the problems for WTF practitioner sparring with ITF rules is getting used to being punched in the face.
My two daughters (11 and 14 years old) train in the ITF since 4 years ago. They don't train with contact. But three times in the last year they have used it successfully in the street, even in situations with no physical advantage. I have to thank ITF Tae Kwon Do for this.
You need to relocate
@@technickelnet lol
you should probably relocate
Mad respect! 👊🥋🇰🇷
Man I hope they're all right.
i used to do both... started as a ITF hwoarang and now im doing wtf and i have to say do not let the look of the armour and the acrobatics fool ya wtf is mean. i have been beaten more in wtf than itf.. and the no punch to the face rule makes it difficult for a guy like me with long arms. the protectors makes it that people kick more and hit you more. in itf every kick had a toll so all of a sudden your fighting style seems to change a bit because of the damage you sustain.
I also while practicing ITF made the mistake to think wtf was a joke but they are both taekwondo the wtf guys have a different aproach to training and sparring. in some way they are more athlete's and they want to take there abilities to new heights. ITF was more about the martial art and the DO (way of taekwondo). that you could take your entire life becoming better. WTF because of how competitive they are this guys work out and train so different. if you want to sit behind a keyboard complain try them both and you will know the true differences and you will understand my words.
Same story for me too bro completely understand
Haha even I’ve done both. If you’ve watched naruto, you’ll understand. WTF is like the Uchiha clan. Competitive and ruthless. ITF is like the Senju clan. Cultural and patient.
Jango Nauta Yeah The blue fighter Is a joke though. Whining and complaining like it’s a soccer match. ITF teaches much more to train the warrior mindset.
The moment I see a TKD fight start and the arms dangle instead of being a guard I drop out. Use your arms goddamn it.
Better yet fight full contact with ITF rules of punching.
I am 2. kup under ITF and WTF. I have to say that I favor the style I learned under ITF rules. It feels more complete as a martial art. Still not appliccable without cross training for self defense but ascfor your protective reflexes in combat you are better off than WTF. I am a heavy weight (100 kg) so fancy acrobatics aren't for me anyways.
Trained under ITF rules for nine years but just today quit my job of almost two years as a WTF Instructor.
I'm going back to ITF.
WTF teaches explosiveness, more kicking dexterity and a more competitive mental attitude. However, explosiveness doesn't necessarily translate to power, and a competitive mindset is different to a combative mindset.
The primary reason I train martial arts is self-defence, self-discipline and mental toughness, which is what ITF excels in teaching. We have arms. It doesn't make sense not to use them.
Reading GOH from webtoon and then i want to see this shit
You aren't alone 😂
You're not alone
@some dude with depression and anxiety taekkyeon
I watched the anime i was waiting for the triple kick 😂
Same 😂
I'm an old Wtf nerd. 1981-2000. But I would like to have learned itf too. There are some "twists" to the kicks and how they're delivered that I'm secretly jealous of. But now I'm 49, live on a small island in Thailand so maybe in my next life 😊
cheers to that bro! Please hit subscribe brother.
@@vincentvlegaspi subscribed and happy for your upload my friend 😊
If you are in Thailand, try Muay Thai in Phuket
there is no next life... do the things you want to do now, cuz you only have one life. Why do we always leave some things we want to do just bc we already do other things? like, even tho there is plp who dont believe in reincarnation, we still think as if we had some time later, but its just one life.
if you are trying to show the difference, you can not use just one rule system, because it gives that style an advantage. let them loose by both rules system and see who is the better fighter. The ITF fighter would total dominate the fight if he would be allowed to use his fighting system..I have seen a lot of these videos and it always WTF rules, are they to afraid of loosing to the ITF?
Michael Tippett
That still doesn't work. In order to really test it, it should be a no rule full contact fight. If that were the case I could use any throwing and self defense techniques I wanted and not just kicking and punching. Kicking and punching isn't the entire martial art
Michael Tippett. The only thing that wasn't allowed was shots to the head w/ the fist. If you host the match with "balanced rules"(punches to the face allowed) then it'll still boil down to whose the better fighter. You're trying to say that system is better and not the fighter!
That WTF fighter is great,even in ITF rules he would be tough
Combine the rules I believe. Put boxing gloves on and allow face and body punches. But still score kicks in a similar way. Take away all electronic scoring and score it like any other combat sport.
@Taekwondo invented 1930 ITF style invented in 1959 your so arrogant calling people morons and ignorant everyone entitled to their opinions. I have done both WTF and ITF so i know my shit and there is no difference in kick strength there is definitely the same amount of contact plus ITF get to use punches. I back both styles but ITF does take the cake.
ITF fighter under WTF rules, Of course the ITF fighter would lose. A major component of ITF fighting is punching to the head, which isn't allowed in WTF.
I was a Blackbelt in ITF and I also currently a Blackbelt in WTF and I believe ITF is better for sparring as i was always in the heavy weight category because I am shorter but I could use my hand techniques to get in and score against taller opponents and WTF is good but due to the fact you can only punch to the chest to score it is a lot harder to gain an advantage and when you look at WTF fighters they are tall where ITF has a larger variety of fighters of all sizes. There seems to be a lot of negative comments towards ITF and I have seen fighters of all grades sparring and people think ITF is semi contact all the time when it isn't and ITF don't wear chest protectors. People who have done both styles would probably have a similar opinion. WTF is in the olympics while ITF can't be because of ITF, TAGB which are pretty much follow the same rules aren't allowed in the olympics for political reasons. The Olympic committee won't allow poomsae in the olympics which is mainly what is practiced in clubs and sparring attracts people in joining although there is a England poomsae squad.
According to official ITF rules, it is only light contact. I know that some gyms practice full contact though.
Good fight! But somehow is a unfair game in my opinion, it is WTF vs ITF but they used the WTF regulation:-)
Only difference, no punching to the face but you can kick it. Seems fair either way
NO THAT IS NOT THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
in wtf you can connect and fall to the ground and it will still be valid, in ITF you can not fall to the ground.
in wtf the fight stop on each point scored. In ITF the fight is continuous and only stops if theres an infraction.
in wtf your arms are useless. in ITF you can punch body and face, either on the floor or jumping.
those are the main differences, and theres more.
if they used ITF regulations. the WTF guy would get his face filled with punches. then you would see that there is a very big difference. it would make more sense to use ITF rules, adding tools for both fighters and not wtf rules where it gets more limited.
Liquidcadmus wtf allows punching but not to the face and besides this fighter was fast, if he fought under ITF ruling, then the result will end the same. Wtf fighter have fast punches and they always land on a chest guard perfectly. All he has to do is slide in and bam instant point. Not those ITF punches that look like sloppy brawl punches
Liquidcadmus in wtf you don't stop and go, the only time they stop is when the fighter falls but point is valid, or if a clinch has gone on too long. Get your shit straight
if will use the speed to their advantage
I am from WTF. Yes, unfair to ITF.
I agree with you and I practiced tkd wtf.
Every single hand-hand style allows punching to the face in a match. You're gonna say it's unfair since BOTH fighters can do that? They can still punch the body. There are no rules on either side saying you can't.
Jay-Ian Pabilan Itf, Wtf, it doesn't matter. WTF fighters move more freely. Just because their hands are down, doesn't make them bad fighters, it's what's comfortable. There are no rules saying you can't keep your hands up. These fighters need to condition their feet. As a WTF fighter, some of my upper class-men were surprised when I didn't get hurt when I kept hitting their elbows. I was surprised too, but I knew my conditioning was working. And made their elbows feel sore since i would go 50% lmao. WTF is not weak, just needs to wake up.
+Jay-Ian Pabilan
actually in the old days, in the 80s, we trained without letting our guard down. but since it has become more sport, letting guard down is to lure opponent to make a move and more relax to execute faster kicks. personally i train with my guard up. reason is i am older, slower now and no more fancy kicks. what i can do as a young man, now i cannot. i only limit. a few simpler kicks with lots of power, a lot more hand techniques.
Jay-Ian Pabilan then you would know that wtf fighters train for power as well
im here to say that i respect both two distinct styles WTF and ITF. It doesnt matter who wins or loses, all different types of martial arts are perfect. Its just a matter of question of who and what are the capabilities of that person. Now if you guys are gonna keep going about which style is better youre looking at it wrong both styles are perfect in combat both used in the military its just depends on how they utilize the style if you know how to adapt in combat whatever what martial art you are practicing will be perfect. WTF sparring has a different focus just because they only show kicking that doesnt mean in self defense they dont use fist or takedowns to bring down an enemy this sparring is a sport not combat. while for ITF its sparring is more focused in combat so most of the time its self defense focused like kickboxing but all this doesnt matter as long as we respect other martial arts and martial artist because if you dont youre a shame in the name of MARTIAL ART FOR FORGETTING THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT IN MARTIAL ARTS : RESPECT. STOP THE BASHING BETWEEN ITF AND WTF.
Both we're actually quite excellent. You rarely see such a close match up like this when it comes to different regulations and/or style match ups.
Even though the ITF fighter was fighting in a different rule set, he did really well. I think it goes to show that even though both use different rules, it's still Taekwondo at the core.
Great fight, thanks for uploading.
1. Fact: Both of them is a good fighter. Any one of them would KO-ed their opponent if they made a mistake.
2. I practice both ITFand WTF.
ITF: Self Defence+Art
WTF: Sports
3. Basic is the same. Its all depends on the practitioner and how their instructor trained them.
Taekwando=ITF/WTF
Love both of them.
Ambos son para defensa personal
@@DavidVallejo337 nah one of them is for the Olympic taekwondo the ITF is self defence they both counter offensive
@@Anthony99user mm no
@@DavidVallejo337 the WTF one is Olympic one but if you want a street fight ITF would be better
@@DavidVallejo337 If you in a street fight ITF is way better
Eso fue wtf vs wtf.
Los que hacemos TAEKWON-DO ITF usamos los puños sea a la cara o a la zona media.
Quiero creer que eso fue un show.
Y antes de irme aclarar que solo hay 1 Taekwon-do y es el ITF. EL ORIGINAL, el que creo el general Choi Hong Hi.
Hola, práctico taekwondo WTF de manera más marcial pero tienes razón el ITF es el original, tambien la WTF a deportisado mucho el TKD
yo decia que tiene las manos de adorno no uso los puños no hizo amagues hago tkd itf desde el 2003,el de wtf peleo bien pero si el de itf usaba los puños seguro ganaba
No es por la asociación, sino del practicante, aunque también estoy de acuerdo que le prohibieron algunas cosas al de ITF
El itf no es original ambos son taekwondo amigo y la batalla estaba igualada por un poco inclinada hacia el itf pero nada mas
@@erosricciardulli9467 para mí ambos lo son
ITF the best!!!
Nah no lo es
@@DavidVallejo337 Yah, sí lo es. La WTF es como esgrimir con los pies. La ITF es mejor en una pelea.
Quizás la ITF sea lo suficientemente buena para los Juegos Olímpicos
@@speakstheobvious5769 no
@@DavidVallejo337 Jawohl
@@speakstheobvious5769 ?
i love how wtf spins and then falls down on his own, love it...
haha
***** A LOT of mistakes, imo :v
***** But it's not one, i mean, check almost every video of WTF "knockouts" or highlights...
Granted those kicks are insanely effective if you're fighting one person and if, and that's a big *IF* you manage to land the shot to the face or head but after that most practitioners land on their back or face ... i've never got used to that, then again, i dont practice TKD WTF so fuck me in the eye socket,i guess...
+MercenaryFox LOL!!
+MercenaryFox hey i joind TKD WTF it do's not hurt at all.
Both are very good fighters, I've studied both ITF and WTF, both have their advantages and disadvantages, depends on the fighter, timing, experience, etc, rules only come into effect when both are evenly matched. Great sparring.
May I know the differences? I think I am learnig WTF style (although we don't really make a distinction here, I only learnt about the two types online) and I'd like to learn its pros and cons, and also that of ITF.
Fue una muy buena pelea de los dos chicos. Es el mejor video de wtf vs itf que se puede ver en la web hoy. La tecnica de cada uno es muy prolija y el estilo bien actualizado.
I trained kyokushin karate for 18 years, and boxing for 8 years. For 3 years I trained ITF tkd to spice up my foot techiqes. With kyo backgrounds itf tkd with boxing are a good choice. Last year a went back to the kyo dojo and started to train at an mma gym. I very thankful for itf, it helped me a lot, to land various kick combinations, I blowed my kyo training partners mind. And itf has more punches which are helpful. Never underestimate punching, if you're trying to win in a k1 or mma match.
There is no wtf vs itf. Just a competition between two fighters (each one from different styles) under WTF rules.
After WTF inserted its system into the olympic games, this art became to collapse.
How do you think you may defeat your adversary using just your feet?
There is gap since the creation of TKD as a martial art and present knowledge...
TKD was developed to be a complete system of training using your arms and feet.
The stress on using the feet was just provide the fighter with an extra combat tool at long distance fighting.
Nowadays I see no use of bare hands for boxing or grappling techniques.
Every Poomsae stress the need to use this.
There several ways to hit using fingers (sonkut), bare hand (son), fist (chumok), elbow (palmuk) in different combination to provide the fighter with several fighting techniques for close combat...
As an ITF styled practitioner, I'd be pretty sweet if there was Full Contact for ITF styled organizations as the norm just like WTF, as KOs are well encouraged.
its called kickboxing lol.
+black_viking1222 Wut
+Brendan Jackson full contact itf would basically be kickboxing
+black_viking1222 Not necessarily but they're similar. Not that point fighting crap for the most part.
I do ITF and my instructor would never let me spar with my hands down like that...
I was a 3rd degree Black Belt in ITF Taekwon-Do, and I was originally planning to keep doing, just for exercise, but the pandemic stopped me.
I love how all the ITF elitists are acting like an ITF guy would stomp a WTF guy in an ITF match.
bah, for me it's still taekwondo, ITF or WTF alike! And Taekwondo is just too cool :3!
Corinne Robison Thats right. And that is the reason why ITF and Taekwondo should be one Taekwondo. Taekwondo could much more famous with WTF and ITF together.
Yah you two are right😊We are together with both ITF and WTF
.WTF player
Jamuna Napit Yeah, the Kukkiwon demonstration with athletes from WTF and ITF was a first good step. But the idea with one world and one Taekwondo should be alive and followed.
@@jasperscholz5094 yes😊
THANK GOD FINALLYYY I'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THIS COMMENT FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE OTHER COMMENTS WERE BASICALLY TALKING ABT THEIR FAVS, OR SHOULD I SAY BIASED HDSHDHSHDH
Y'all gotta kill this cognitive bias between WTF & ITF. Both systems are different but neither is greater than the other. We gotta acknowledge that both systems aren't the total package in the world of Martial Arts and Fighting Sport. My foundation is WTF, but I acknowledge it's weakness and train in other disciplines to be more complete as I possible can.
itf is most definitely more effective then wtf, when it comes to combat sports if your sport is more effective then it is "greater"
JustOneLonelyRUclipsr I agree, in a street fight where there’s no point but kill or be killer itf is what you wanna know.
nah fam, itf is more effective in the martial art world
I am so happy to choose ITF Taekwondo. :D
Deimos The Badass lol WTF killed the Itf guy
Pint Size Taekwondo isn't the red one ITF?
Deimos The Badass I agree
Mr Savage
You don't need guard in a wtf regulated fight...
The fights are run very differently. WTF in this match had an advantage because if wtf regulations, although it was small and the ITF should have been able to adapt. It may or may not have been different under ITF regulation. At the end of the day it's skill. The WTF fighter here was clearly more comfortable. Two different fighters and maybe the ITF would have won. Can't judge on one fight.
Competition is healthy and provides learning opportunities.
Respect 🙏
I've trained ITF and WTF. And certainly can say ITF is much much better. But I have to say on ITF version I've been trained by Korean. It was much more than full contact. We trained how to use TKD on a street. We used throws, grapplings, punches and kicks. I've been on one tournament and I've broke a nose to the guy with punch. And also, unfortunately, I used it on a street as a defence, and it was very successfully.
On WTF we were trained only for tournaments. There were no creativity. And we were equipped with full armor. On ITF we had only gloves. No halmets and other stuff. Also on WTF we had semi contact trainings. When I came on my first WTF training, and when they saw my skills they put me in the best group and sad to me that they have plans for me, and I will be very successefull in TKD.
They wanted me to go on tournaments. And that was not the reason why I trained TKD. I trained for a few years and I stopped just because I never learned something new on WTF.
So if you're training or you have trained ITF, and it is semi or no contact, than it is not ITF. ITF is much harder than WTF. ITF is a martial art, and WTF is just a sport. And I had a chance to prove the power of ITF on the street many times, and also I had a chance to compare it.
Adrijano Hafner I train WTF, and I have the fortune to be training in a dojang where we learn to use a wide variety of techniques like you just said...
I don't think one is more complete than the other... I believe most WTF academies only focus on tournaments so they forget Taekwondo is the art of fighting with your feet AND hands.
And... unfortunately, I can see a lot of students not taking seriously the poomsae and all the trainings we do on the real art... so they aren't that good at using their hands...
Esau Alfaro I agree with you. Both are complete. But not many WTF academies offer martial art, but they offer sport.
I trained Korean WTF. I am sorry to inform you that WTF is much much harder kicking (that's why the extra gear). I sparred WTF and ITF, Good WTF teacher is clear that street fight and ring fight are totally different types of training and WTF offers both
Eric Nelson I totally agree with what your saying. I also train in WTF. 👌
Adrijano Hafner..........I trained in wtf and I showed my skills many times in street fights.
ITF is pure original TKD
paul marsh shotokan karate is pure tkd lol
Izzy Dangerous No Karate is from Japan and Teakwondo is from Korea.
They are two different martial arts
Jenufer Lawrenz no the origin of taekwondo is karate shotokan. The founder of tkd studied shotokan before taekwondo. He has just add few techniques of taekyon to make a difference with shotokan
Kung Fu is the Grandfather of all Martial Arts.
@@qaderwaz9322 then before karate,it come from Chinese's hand, that mean shoalin is the original art
??: Renewal Taekwondo.....Triple kick!
U cultured man
@@r0v3r71 x2
aguante el ITF 💜❤❤👂
Pero si sos de la federación chul hak san no te servirá de mucho. Si decis por los puños que en el itf se aplica prefiero ir a boxeo.
@@psspspotyfasse1129 hay mas escuela ademas de la chul...
@@psspspotyfasse1129 hay más deportes que combinan el boxeo con patadas
El itf es el que permite puños verdad??
@@carlosandres1835 los 2 permiten puños solo que en el itf se ocupa mas en el wtf se ocupa menos
Listen, I train wtf and all itf defendants are saying that it's incomplete and arms should be allowed etc. No technical punching actually happens in itf it's just some ridiculous arm swinging that has no impact. Either way, both are an effective form of self defence. No street fighter will expect a head kick and that's it.
I've done both most of my life but decided to stay ITF. For the more traditional approach ive studied boxing and some karate also its true WTF is more about the points but they also teach good self defence the kicks are technical but if the practitioner gets caught up in the points aspect when in a real fight they may loose because of the fancy points kicks. A lot of ITF schools don't teach the same kicking stategies or allow you to compete in many hard-full contact events but i have. ITF is more simular to Karate in my opinion the techniques are more focused towards stopping a fight instead of continuous sparing (wtf) the reason for the chest pad is the kicks aren't held back so its a protection thing if Itf didn't make you to learn to control your power while sparing people would get hurt. ITF full contact hurts if your not ready for it.
they both teach tenants of TKD embrace both learn from each other
This isn't wtf vs itf this is a wtf fight its like fighting a muay thai fighter and dont allow him to knee / clinch or elbow or throw a taekwondo guy in a boxing ring and do a boxing match.
to be honest i like the video but i dont like comparing the 2 main styles they are just effective in their own way
what I personally found a bit shitty in ITF was, many did box and then came in TKD. Allways tryed to getting you in a short distance to make KO. With ITF I have only one question, what we does, kickboxing or taekwon-do? So definitely WTF did it well.
It is NEVER the style, it is always the practitioner.
Unless the style is "Tai-Do-Chi-OneTap-Fire-Jitsu"
Gracias por compartir don Vincent, estuvo interesante 😁
Me encanta wtf porque son puras patadas y mucha velocidad y agilidad.
Muy Ninjas 👍
igual el itf es mas realista
@@MAIK3ER entonces es lo mismo?
@@velxen77 osea yo no digo que sea mejor pero en situaciones de peligro real creo que el itf es mas efectivo
@@MAIK3ER ah si
very good tehnique..used to train WTF...like your foot abillity. My favourite foot kick is spidjo čagi:)what is your specialty? like for TKD:)
Si estan combatiendo con las reglas WT claramente ITF tendra desventajas, ya que utilizan mas los puños en zonas altas y medias, mas altas que nada, me atreveria a decir que usan 45% puños y el resto pateos, golpean de otra manera, debio ser con reglas ITF y WT aprender a bloquear mas la cabeza. PD: Practico WT, trato de defender lo justo
Interesante
Protegen mucho al de WTF, si fueran reglas de ITF, no hubiese aguantado el azul
Hermano, habrán otras peleas con las reglas del ITF, no hay necesidad de rebuscar para tirarle mierda al WTF.
Fue una increíble pelea entre dos estilos diferentes, y si no estas conforme, pues no mires el vídeo y busca el de tu preferencia
Pues si wey son reglas distintas
@@PabloGonzalez-bs2pm si fue una buena pelea
Me gustaria ver el mismo combate con reglas itf
Itf guy most likely agreed to fight in he’s rules. Hats off to both guys for training hard and sparring one another
Taekwondo WTF:azul
Taekwondo ITF :rojo
emilioSC 15 al revés. ..
Hago itf y wtf taekwando
@@julioalfonso3253 no está bien pq los de wtf no usan guantes tipo de boxeo no sé cómo se llaman los guantes >_
@@doublerival5421 yo solo wtf :3
@@julioalfonso3253 está bien
I'm happy to be in WTF taekwondo
Me too I feel like ITF players should respect WTF more like it is both Taekwondo I haven't met one WTF player who didn't respect or critisize the ITF style but every ITF player seems to have a total grudge of hatred towards WTF and finds everyway to bash it
Me too
Deadmeme siéntese señora use google translator to understand my Spanish 🙂
Potatoes Are Good For You as a person who does ITF I think that we should respect WTF more, I actually think that WTF sparring looks much better than ITF sparring
Salamonio ITF was created first before WTF and yes, usually WTF sparring mostly seems like use feet often than hands ITF use hands and feet but yeah although I’m an ITF tkd guy i admit wtf sparring looks fun and cool
ITF: Effectiveness ... WTF: Agileness, will be amazing if they are combined
lmao yes renewal taekwondo
Yeah.... I've trained both years ago...
Ambos son efectivos
What is the difference between ITF & Wtf
I am the only that come here cause God of high school?
Best bout I’ve seen in ages
Ay varias diferencias en el momento del combate entre itf y wtf quizás eso le juega en contra al itf
What should I do ITF or WTF, I can't decide
ITF
ITF is more effective on a street fight
Itf
It must be uncomfortable for the ITF practicioner to make the sparring with that breastplate.
It is for both
@@lucasdaconceicao8587 no, not for both..only for wtf
Exactly
Blue is WTF 1st dan , red is ITF 2nd dan.
wow very good game and Red,Blue player respectbut... i think this fight rule is WTF taekwondo.so this game is advantage blue player.. Don`t u think so?i think WTF taekwondo is sports. ITF taekwondo is fight.if rule change the ITF , WTF taekwondo must loose..( i think!!!!!!!!)because WTF Kick = just point not Attack..im Korean taekwondo teacher..(WTF teacher)many people say taekwondo is just kickin... no.. never...use hand, finger, knee, elbow.. a lot of body move..but many old man secret history and change..very confuse :
+Christian Orderud all contact is allowed trust me
i used to be wtf
No
Can i use this video??😄😄😄👍👍😀😀😍😍😉
ahahahahah! next video suld be ju do vs TKD WTF under WTF rules.
Владимир Шпанко judo is going to get destroyed under WTF rules
Oh really? Thank you captain obvious
Владимир Шпанко you're welcome
TYPICAL KEY That's the point mate.
If the outcome is obvious why do you even want to see it
Now I want to see them fight in a street fight rules(but using tae kwon do ofc)
Tae kwon do is the art of foot and hand not the art of foot
Anyone know which one's which style?
I'm guessing red is WTF, blue is IT, yeah?
Blue is from NZL, New Zealand, yeah?
Anyone know who the fighter is?
Blue is WTF, and yes from NZ, Onehunga tkd club.
suerte que el de itf no puede usar manos xdd
This is definetly WTF rules. Whenever they get close, they hug each other... But anyways, respect for those fighters
blue guy calls a point after falling flat on his face? wtf is up with that lol
JustOneLonelyRUclipsr a turning kick to the face is worth 3 points so even if he falls and potentially gets a red card point lost, he still gains two points ahead.
GhenghisKhangai he gains points for failed kick? are you positive about that? because it is much easier to go for head kicks when you arent worried about falling
JustOneLonelyRUclipsr The actual kick still landed, falling doesn't mean the kick did not land, so he still scores.
GhenghisKhangai so you are telling me falling is part of the kick?
He was deducted a point for falling not granted a point.
One day,one day we will see one and only Taekwondo...and one only Korea
You guys forget that there's more to WTF than just kicking. Sparring isn't the whole martial art. In a sparring match there are rules that you must follow, the biggest difference between ITF and WTF Tkd sparring matches is that you can punch. In a real street fight a WTF fighter (like me) could easily dominate others when using self defense techniques and punches. WTF also uses punches a lot just not in the sparring part. That's the difference, the actual techniques are very similar since they both just branch off one another so the only real difference are the sparring RULES.
No Data it depends though. If you don't practice punches in sparring, how will you use it in a street fight. I don't practice Axe kick because punching is faster and I just don't like it. Since I don't use it in a controlled fight, I wouldn't be able to effectively use it in an uncontrolled. If you don't practice it it doesn't work, end of story.
I think it depends mainly on the martial artist rather than the martial art itself.
how many times did you fight in a street??? if you are only thinking about street fights then practice krab maga and END OF STORY...
Samuraineko I've taken Krav. I decided I like TKD better.
It is so wrong.. i do sanda, we spare with kicks, punches and throws... I practice that all the time, how do you think you can handle punches from a guy that can land punches on the face of people that are used to defend against that kind of Attack when you are not used to ? It's like thinking as an amateur boxer you could defeat a pro bower ! That's very delusional !
I practiced WTF for 7 years, I'm 3rd Kup... I had some interruptions so I got a bit late, I could be 1st Kup xD. Whatever, since I moved of my country, 3 years ago I stopped practicing, and now I want back in... But I'm woundering if I should keep on WTD cause I'm experient or if I should try something new, like WTF... And will I lose my belt?
Opinions? Answers? :D
Well, that depends if the master of the school you going to practice accept your belt, like my master did, that he accept a green belt of karate to stay on that rank. Anyway, I don't think you stay with your belt on ITF cuz ITF have diferents poomsae and differents styles of combat.
+abdiel lopez karate has kata which are a lot different from poomsaes... so maybe I can switch to ITF and keep my belt
Like I said, depends on the master, like my master did, he lets that guy keep his belt because my master was a humble person and let him keep de green belt. But you can talk to the master of the ITF school you want to go, maybe he let you keep your belt. The only thing that really matters are the poomsae cuz the kicks are the same and the blocks, the fighting combat has a little change but just try to convince him or something. I hope you can keep it.
lmao he punched him in the face out of habit lol
This is an ITF invitational fight, so technically we are surrounded by ITF players. But the ref is WTF and while we try to be fair on rules, turns out to looks like WTF. The only thing that's lost in the rule is punching in the face. Hope that's fair enough.
If is just the punch dan I guess the ITF guys should also remove his leg shoes becoz it makes different.
@@kinkin4370 I myself is WTF so I really dont know what ITF rules all about. Im just assuming the difference is having or not having a punch on the face.
No son injustas pendejo
in my Opinion WTF have more amazing Strong kick and speed :)
BTW hi guys i learn WTF taekwondo in indonesia !!!.
what about you guys WTF or ITF ?
u sure ?
wtf kicks hav speed but no power
itf kicks abit slower but can deal much more dmg than wtf
Aaron Sim I don't practice taekwondo but Muay Thai, and in my opinion I liked the Blue one better considering he used speed which is one thing that counter strength all the time. And I've fought both ITF and WTF fighters, out of all of them the WTF fighters rely on "explosion" and timing.
Itf punch in the face..wtf will cry if fight in itf rules
Bope u wrong
@@linusjonsson9166 nope*
Guys, its not about itf or wtf, if u are a shit at tkd goinf itf won't make u do a progress. its just about the technique and knowledge of taekwondo, the same martial art is practiced with same shit.
Itf=wtf
I have watched many fights for both WTF and ITF fighting other martial arts like Karate. I have never seen ITF showing the real skill of Tae Kwon Do in real fights other than throwing punches that don't even have impact on the opponent
My question is what were the rules to their matches because ITF uses more of the Korean Kickboxing Art off Punches and Kicks
ITF is original TKD
No lo es
@@DavidVallejo337 Lee la historia del fundador. El general Choi
@@AlexisRx0 bueno
No victory no defeat the survivor will carry the title of boss.
Wtf rules, the Itf fighter can't block or punch to the face... it's like challenging a fish in water (Tkd Itf red belt by the way)
The true Taekwondo, ''Taekwondo ITF'' from General Choi Hong Hi (I am a red belt; almost a black belt) and... Taekwondo Wtf have some good fighters and it's too popular as sport, that's the difference, Itf is a martial art, wtf is a sport
Portugues não homem, fala Espanhol ou Inglês. Quão pouco o tradutor me ajudou a entender Vou te dar duas respostas, número um, eu tenho vídeos na internet, mas se eu tiver 3 medalhas Primeiro, eu não acho que melhor do que qualquer um desses lutadores e se eu acho taekwondo ITF é superior como arte marcial wtf. Eu não quero presucion ou humor a subestimar o esporte estilo taekwondo (wtf) Eu digo isso porque eu estou nesse mundo. Por favor, fale Espanhol ou Inglês.
In my opinion, tkd wtf is not a martial art, it's a sport of contact... and because of tkd wtf, ('cause almost nobody knows the difference) most of the people thinks taekwondo is bullshit comparing to another martial art, but they don't understand that wtf don't train punches or full contact moves, that's why if they don't get a lucky hit; they are not challenge for another real martial art. Although taekwondo wtf has incredible fighters, what is bullshit is the way that they turned taekwndo into a sport.
Wtf=full contact, ITF = light contact. That's the result
+Leonel E. Romero, wtf use hand only to the chest not the head. Full contact I was trying to say full power. ITF does sparring with control because if not is considered as excess of power. Different rules same origin. Love Tkd of any school. Saludos
Watch more fights, there are punches being thrown, its just risky to do in a WTF fight. But it's allowed. Better yet, go to a WTF school and see of yourself.
As a wtf fight I fought 4 ITF fighter from 2 different school and without gear and I had beat them. Just because they can punch to the face doesn't make it effective. Besides fighting like a 2-D character was never effective lmao
***** why did you say ITF was effective? But anyways TKD is a martial art and has been one for thousands of years.
***** yes it is both interpretations of taekwondo became well known around the same time. I've used. My skill of wtf style in a real fight. I also used it against an amateur Thai fighter local to me. His ribs and arms met my foot and that was the end
My fav part 5:18
Cake Awhh shit that was an amazing counter
Super six paths kurama mazaku saiyan mode blue you realise it was a fancy kick 🤦♂️ people actually don't use those alot like he did
i enjoy that both were being aggresive and attacking and countering instead of dancing around
El competidor de WTF es superior en todo sentido, el de ITF solo abanicaba su pierna delantera mientras el otro le conectaba patadas potentes inclusive al rostro y cabeza. WTF gana!!
alex Pero En Una Situacion Real, Gana El De ITF
alex Pero por qué dices que es de itf el rojo?
Me parece más lógico que el de itf sea el azul ya que este ni tiene protecciones en los pies , seguro escogió no usarlas ya que en itf así se entrena
Julius Behemoth por el diseño de dobok
@@julioalfonso3253 el itf es el rojo
Are they like having a banquet or party beside?
gano el peleador de wtf fue señalado
respect from old Bulgaria!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ITF FTW
Good fight for both players!
Mark Wu yes!!💯
ITF is red
RatPepp nope
As a WTF Taekwondo athlete, this has got to be the most jank fight I've ever seen.
Itf is the real taekwondo. wtf is what happens the government get involved
No digas pendejadas
the two styles are beautiful
WTF rules.
SebastianMMA16 False
Brian Gonzalez I practice WTF and he's correct. The ITF is allowed to punch in the head too which he never did so it was definitely under WTF rules
who won?
the blue- WTF , by score
This isn’t to prove which is better, this is to show the outcome of if one style fought a with another, if ITF wins it doesn’t mean it’s better, if WTF wins it doesn’t mean it’s better
Seems to me that they fight based on WTF rules, which would mean that this is not WTF vs ITF. It would just be ITF practitioners doing WTF.
quien gano ?
azul
+Lionel Basso rojo
gano el azul el juez en el final marca azul
The best way to see which one is better is a fight with rules like Kick Boxing: Without helmet and chest protectors, only with gloves, full contact, with punching in the face and mainly without the constant interruptions of the referee (I mean continuos combat all the round). And of course scores like in boxing (winner or losser by every round, not by every hit). Forgive my bad English.
El de ITF es el rojo verdad
Which one is the itf and which one is the wtf
Apart from scoring system I am not certain I see much difference. Where are punches (from what I understand they are allowed to the body in the scoring system) or the deflective blocks? The fighters are not creating angles on each other. Just trading.
punch has to be strong that ref could see it felt, otherwise no score
@@vincentvlegaspi 1 year later I know better! I was so excited to try sparring! No dice yet! Hopefully there will come some kind of opportunity to spar like some of the boxing and mma gyms have been able to do. For now I wait for my chance to give it a go!
Wtf are you guys talking about