“Why does Bobby Eaton get a title match you drop him in out of a helicopter.” Lol Jim Herd I actually met Flair at a appearance we were laughing about it Herd was such a dumb ass.
What Herd did created a LOT of hate, and resentment! Ric Flair being one of the Biggest Stars in Pro Wrestling, def king in the NWA territories, and wanted to make into "Spartan" cut his hair which was one of his trademarks, which he did and regretted it, never had long hair again after that, it did take something away from Flair, he really was never the same Nature Boy after that!
All I can say about that last match between Sting and Flair on WCW is that yeah, they might not have been in TOP shape. But they rock and rolled and gave us a good match to finish the company with. Those guys did awesome work! It was a good end.
@@SuperDecible He didn’t know jack shit about Wrestling and he was hired to run a wrestling company. He was so bad at his job that he literally ran Ric Flair out of WCW to WWF.
I grew up watching "Wrestling At The Chase.," Sunday morning, KPLR TV channel 11. This is the show that made me a wrestling fan from the late 60's throughout most of the 70's.
*Herd was the program director at KPLR, hence why he got the WCW gig. Herd was almost entirely unsuccessful, but he had some success at KPLR. He also had a few good ideas whilst heading WCW.*
I used to watch Wrestling at the Chase every Sunday morning. The Chase was a luxury hotel in St. Louis. The audience was seated at dinner tables wearing suits and ties. At least in the early days.
I remember Wrestling At The Chase, I grew up on Memphis wrestling, The Chase and an AWA bicycle show (can't remember the name of the show) no WWWF/WWF growing up in my area.
One of the things about Herd that REALLY pissed off Flair was when he brought Matt Borne back as Big Josh and made Arn Anderson lose to him. Remember how the two of them imploded back in 1983. They were supposed to "win" the National Tag Team Titles, but there was an incident where Borne attacked Arn at a motel. He didn't feel that Arn should have been in the spot that he was in. They were both let go by WCW, even though Arn was innocent. Thankfully, he got on in Alabama and was successful there. The belts were then placed on some new team calling themselves The Road Warriors (LOL). It was a "passing of the torch" moment as they defeated Mr. Wrestling #1 & #2. This was the last match ever for Mr. Wrestling #1 (Tim Woods).
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi Yes it was. Georgia Championship Wrestling became World Championship Wrestling in August 1982 since GCW had expanded into places like Ohio, Huntington, WV, and Saginaw, MI. Then JCP bought them out in March 1985.
@@mkl62 nope, you're wrong, broski. The promotion didn't change their name. The name of their main tv show became World Championship Wrestling. That's like saying WWF changed its name to Raw just because their main tv show was called Raw in 1993. In other words, you're wrong and I'm right 😉
Not that Flair wasn't the greatest booker. But You really don't belong in the Wrestling Business if you want to revamp one of the most prolific & iconic legendary wrestlers into a goofy ass Spartacus role
This was a bit before my time and I just looked it up, is it correct that Flair was actually champion when Jim Herd told him to become a gladiator lol?
Yep, was still the top guy in WCW when pizza Herd told him to become Spartacus. That's why Ric left with the belt, and never defended it against Luger at the Great American Bash 1991.
@@jonathanturbide2232 Herd asked for the belt back as Flair was leaving. Flair said "fine" as long as he got back his deposit on the belt (something like 20k, back then any champion that carried that belt with him had to pay a deposit on it, because of all the gold on it and in case they lost it or got it stolen from them). Herd (probably not even aware of the deposit) told Flair to stick t up his ass and keep the thing.
Wcw actually seemed to be doing things right in 2001 (the last 3 months of existence). Jonny Ace was in charge and they were pushing younger talent- it was looking a lot more like the edgy wwe product. It would’ve been interesting to see what would’ve happened had it stayed around- while Flair benefitted from its demise most talent didn’t.
Even though Herd was a jackass during his WCW tenure, Flair's reputation shouldn't be held in a much higher regard. He has a long track record of back-stabbing, bullshit and silly decisions. A bit of a glass house situation.
Dusty Rhodes made a match Concept that was Cooler than the Royal Rumble and he ruined it by booking himself to win it every year in its existence. Flair was just mad because he was the only other person Dusty would allow to Win so he had a baby tantrum and took the WCW belt to New York out of spite. Jim Herd brought us Robocop which was way more memorable than anything Flair or Dusty ever done for 600 hillbillies in Atlanta.
0:20 Flair: "Dumbest asshole I ever met in my life" Interviewer: "I love you" 😳🤔 I know he says "alot of people say that" so no need to be a know it all
Both companies lost out on the biggest main event ever if Both companies would've hyped HULK Hogan VS Ric Flair as the main event one match hyped all year long and to build up the match have them battle the same wrestlers up to the match so they could compare the matches then say WRESTLEMANIA MAIN EVENT HOGAN VS FLAIR would've have been ever wresting fans dream match how many covers of mags called the DREAM MATCH but they dropped the ball I think if they had done like WM3 for hype would've been even bigger 1 match only then thats it.
@Rondough Howell1986 profit numbers were never in question. The expansion of 87 is what put Crockett in the hole. He overpayed for every territory he purchased. Moving Starcade from Greensboro and Vince sabotaging the PPV. Is what hurt the most.
Herd was right that Flair was played out in the early 90’s, but he handled it all wrong. Also, Rob Feinstein is always clueless whenever the wrestlers need help remembering something.
You know it's 2020. You figured these shoot interviews would be produced to an acceptable quality. Not some High School quality production. Of course, only mid carders do these interviews anyway
Wonder if Ric is ever gonna realize he’s the issue. I’m not saying Jim Herd was a good person to run WCW but every promotion Flair has been in, he’s had a issue with management. The sad truth is Flair is unprofessional. He exposed himself In publicly wearing a bathrobe constantly like a clown and agents would have to call the upper management to cover Flairs bar tab over the years cause he was broke. In WWE, he owed a pawn broker $20,000 and Triple H had to pony up the money for the NWA belt he put up as collateral. I respect his early career but he’s a clown.
When you have a draw as big as flair you put up with that shit, because if you have flair on the card you have a guaranteed sellout no matter where you are. Herd wanted him to cut his hair and call him spartactus. No wonder flair buried him.
As a Wrestler/Performer, Ric Flair is the greatest of all time! As a human being? Seemingly spineless, an absentee irresponsible father, someone who was unfaithful to at least one of his wives, someone who hardly ever paid his taxes, was a virtual if not actual alcoholic and has spent countless hours 'burying' people who often had their home lives in much better order than him!
@@jamesbyersmusic true. He was an alcoholic for decades, drank a ton every day, had many enablers around him like his rightwing ex-wife (David's mother). Piece of shit human being
Flair was stale in 1990. Fans was looking as Flair as old. I can say it I was a NWA/WCW fan since 86 until it was close. Heard was a bad Booker. Flair ego was out of control.
Flair had the same desires as hogan....make money/stay on top he just wasn't as clever/manipulative or both as hogan.......flair is overrated as wrestler, he wanted to be the booker then when he realised itinvovlved hard work bailed everytime....mans ego got bruised and as we've come to k owner the years he was very insecure and mentally weak
@@rolltide9547 hogan was a babyface.....it would of killed the auro if he regularly put ppl over, heels can get away with putting ppl over.......hogan has said multiple people are the goat....hogan is also a well renowned bullshitter and will say whatever he needs 2 get ahead , that said I don't care if hogan said he's the GOAT, hogan isn't the authority on it, pro wrestling is pretty determined so deciding who the best is subjective...flair is ovverated....he could take an ass whooping as a heel but as a babyface he was the shits...little offense
Jim Herd was full of nothing but the WORST ideas in wrestling. if it was a horrible idea you could almost bet that it came out of Jim Herd's garbage mind.
You have to put things in perspective where Teddy Long has nothing but good things to say about Vince and how he was treated despite all of the questionable shit Vince has been involved in, yet just dresses down Flair as the worst kind of bigot. Teddy seems like someone who has the patience of a saint, imagine crossing that line.
If Jim Herd wasn’t an alcoholic, he sure looked like he would be one
- Jim Cornette
lol
“Why does Bobby Eaton get a title match you drop him in out of a helicopter.” Lol
Jim Herd
I actually met Flair at a appearance we were laughing about it Herd was such a dumb ass.
0:50 - Ric actually gives his phone number so that Herd can call him, LMAO Flair is the man. 😂😂😂😂
He would’ve gotten thousands of phone calls. Thank god they muted him.
@@rickytpb2164 I agree, I really don't think Flair thought about that. Luckily the personnel did & muted his number
What Herd did created a LOT of hate, and resentment!
Ric Flair being one of the Biggest Stars in Pro Wrestling, def king in the NWA territories, and wanted to make into "Spartan" cut his hair which was one of his trademarks, which he did and regretted it, never had long hair again after that, it did take something away from Flair, he really was never the same Nature Boy after that!
555-WHOOOOO
Sid Vicious have his address on a podcast once.
"We're bringing in Robocop...the real one"-Jim Herd
All I can say about that last match between Sting and Flair on WCW is that yeah, they might not have been in TOP shape. But they rock and rolled and gave us a good match to finish the company with. Those guys did awesome work! It was a good end.
Well said! Sure, it didn't stack up against their matches in '88, '90 or even '94, but it was a fitting end to WCW! :-)
Jim Herd is definitely one of the Top 10, maybe Top 5 most hated men in wrestling history
Never HERD anyone say a nice thing about him
Neither have I, nobody liked Herd.
jim ross did. dusty rhodes
@@grawakendream8980 Ross hated herd too
He is probably number 1.
Even russo has his supprters
Why did nobody like him? Sorry im just finding out about this
Never heard anything positive about Jim Herd. Even JR buried him.
And you won't hear anything positive about him. He's the worst.
@@blaineshores4184 im out of the loop as im just finding this out. Whats the hate on Jim Herd about?
@@SuperDecible He didn’t know jack shit about Wrestling and he was hired to run a wrestling company. He was so bad at his job that he literally ran Ric Flair out of WCW to WWF.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything positive about jim herd.
Corny and Ric destroying him every chance they got is music to my ears.
True. Even Russo has a handful of supporters, not Herd.
Flex Rumblecrunch nope never. The only person who came close was Bischoff and he said it was just because he gave him a job when he needed it.
I'd love someone to track him down for an interview.
he was okay
Imagine Flair during the invasion angle I wonder how that would turn out
That promo between Flair and Vinnie Mac becoming co-owners of WWE killed it! Hands down, the best promo of the '00s!
0:20 when Flair said that about Herd, Idk why, but I laughed my ass off 😂😂😂😂
I grew up watching "Wrestling At The Chase.," Sunday morning, KPLR TV channel 11. This is the show that made me a wrestling fan from the late 60's throughout most of the 70's.
*Herd was the program director at KPLR, hence why he got the WCW gig. Herd was almost entirely unsuccessful, but he had some success at KPLR. He also had a few good ideas whilst heading WCW.*
This is from Flair's 'I need money and want to back to the WWE, so I'll bury TNA' shoot!
where are they, who are they
Jim Herd makes Vince Russo look like Paul Heyman
I used to watch Wrestling at the Chase every Sunday morning. The Chase was a luxury hotel in St. Louis. The audience was seated at dinner tables wearing suits and ties. At least in the early days.
khorassan ballroom at the chase
I remember Wrestling At The Chase, I grew up on Memphis wrestling, The Chase and an AWA bicycle show (can't remember the name of the show) no WWWF/WWF growing up in my area.
Wrestling at the Chase in St. Louis.
Man, I was born just a little late. Wish I could’ve seen a few matches at the chase.
One of the things about Herd that REALLY pissed off Flair was when he brought Matt Borne back as Big Josh and made Arn Anderson lose to him. Remember how the two of them imploded back in 1983. They were supposed to "win" the National Tag Team Titles, but there was an incident where Borne attacked Arn at a motel. He didn't feel that Arn should have been in the spot that he was in. They were both let go by WCW, even though Arn was innocent. Thankfully, he got on in Alabama and was successful there. The belts were then placed on some new team calling themselves The Road Warriors (LOL). It was a "passing of the torch" moment as they defeated Mr. Wrestling #1 & #2. This was the last match ever for Mr. Wrestling #1 (Tim Woods).
There was no WCW in 1983
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi Yes it was. Georgia Championship Wrestling became World Championship Wrestling in August 1982 since GCW had expanded into places like Ohio, Huntington, WV, and Saginaw, MI. Then JCP bought them out in March 1985.
@@mkl62 nope, you're wrong, broski. The promotion didn't change their name. The name of their main tv show became World Championship Wrestling. That's like saying WWF changed its name to Raw just because their main tv show was called Raw in 1993.
In other words, you're wrong and I'm right 😉
@@NoneofYabiz-rx3zi Like TNA becoming Impact and then changing back to TNA.
Not that Flair wasn't the greatest booker. But You really don't belong in the Wrestling Business if you want to revamp one of the most prolific & iconic legendary wrestlers into a goofy ass Spartacus role
This was a bit before my time and I just looked it up, is it correct that Flair was actually champion when Jim Herd told him to become a gladiator lol?
Yep, was still the top guy in WCW when pizza Herd told him to become Spartacus. That's why Ric left with the belt, and never defended it against Luger at the Great American Bash 1991.
Left with the belt because he never got his deposit back.
@@dontgetittwizted True, but the reason he wanted his deposit back in the first place is because of all the BS he went through with Herd.
@@jonathanturbide2232 Herd asked for the belt back as Flair was leaving. Flair said "fine" as long as he got back his deposit on the belt (something like 20k, back then any champion that carried that belt with him had to pay a deposit on it, because of all the gold on it and in case they lost it or got it stolen from them). Herd (probably not even aware of the deposit) told Flair to stick t up his ass and keep the thing.
Wcw actually seemed to be doing things right in 2001 (the last 3 months of existence).
Jonny Ace was in charge and they were pushing younger talent- it was looking a lot more like the edgy wwe product.
It would’ve been interesting to see what would’ve happened had it stayed around- while Flair benefitted from its demise most talent didn’t.
Too little too late by then
Watch for jim cornette's shoot video on jim herd, it's great.
Wooo Brother ❤
That Sting match, that was WCW?
Is this new because somehow,it still looks like it was filmed in 2007
It is from then, you think flair is this young ?
@@craigbiggam2111 nothing about him looks young here...
@@FreeRoyalPowerHourHe was born old
Hes the only wrestler who remembers wen they did their matches
I love Flair
Me too awesome guy!!!!
Feinstein doesn't even know what Wrestling at the Chase was. He's too worried about picking up little kids.
This rings true with all the stuff I’ve been reading. Jim doesn’t seem like the smartest guy to be running a wrestling company.
WOOOOOOOoooooooo
Even though Herd was a jackass during his WCW tenure, Flair's reputation shouldn't be held in a much higher regard.
He has a long track record of back-stabbing, bullshit and silly decisions.
A bit of a glass house situation.
Flair’s a racist asshole as well. Love the character but the man is an absolute prick
You’re a smark
Dusty Rhodes made a match Concept that was Cooler than the Royal Rumble and he ruined it by booking himself to win it every year in its existence. Flair was just mad because he was the only other person Dusty would allow to Win so he had a baby tantrum and took the WCW belt to New York out of spite. Jim Herd brought us Robocop which was way more memorable than anything Flair or Dusty ever done for 600 hillbillies in Atlanta.
i loved Flair’s haircut back in ‘92 / ‘91
When was this shooted??
Shooted?? LOL Try, SHOT
@@JoeyT1 does it really matter?I want to know the answer!!🙄
@@abcsin6526 It says '2013' in the right corner.
0:20
Flair: "Dumbest asshole I ever met in my life"
Interviewer: "I love you"
😳🤔
I know he says "alot of people say that" so no need to be a know it all
why would vince care if he wrestled sting except to get his rocks off by controlling people
Has anyone ever said anything positive about Jim Herd?
Scott Steiner
@@josgor9061 Then nothing else matters LOL
Did Ric give out his number ?
555-WHOOOOOOO
I think Ric said this: "Fack the Jim Herd. I will break this mf'ers back and make him humble!"
Pizza to go...
Where is Jim Herd these days? Seems to have disappeared off the face of the earth.
If he's even still alive
Probably died
@@Blackhawk211 Still alive. Recently did one of the worst shoot interviews ever with that moron Conrad.
Dream would be Jim Herd getting locked in a room with Ric and Jim Cornette. I can picture JC holding him in a full nelson while Ric throws punches
I thought Flairs short hair was cool
Both companies lost out on the biggest main event ever if Both companies would've hyped HULK Hogan VS Ric Flair as the main event one match hyped all year long and to build up the match have them battle the same wrestlers up to the match so they could compare the matches then say WRESTLEMANIA MAIN EVENT HOGAN VS FLAIR would've have been ever wresting fans dream match how many covers of mags called the DREAM MATCH but they dropped the ball I think if they had done like WM3 for hype would've been even bigger 1 match only then thats it.
To bad when Flair was on top in WCW/NWA the company never made a dime in profit. They lost money ever year but 2 yrs in the late 90's
Total Bullshit!!1986 was Crockett's most profitable year. Are you smoking Crack?
@Rondough Howell1986 profit numbers were never in question. The expansion of 87 is what put Crockett in the hole. He overpayed for every territory he purchased. Moving Starcade from Greensboro and Vince sabotaging the PPV. Is what hurt the most.
@Rondough Howell Like him or not Vince is one of the best businessman of all time. He needs to write a book before he dies.
@@Wadzillia 100% NWA JCP 83-early 87 did great business.
Looking at WCW from 1990 to 1993 it was a disaster with gimmicks it was nothing compared to the 80s or after 1993
Does anybody have anything positive to say about Jim Herd ?
Herd was right that Flair was played out in the early 90’s, but he handled it all wrong. Also, Rob Feinstein is always clueless whenever the wrestlers need help remembering something.
Flair played out in the early 90s? Never maybe around early 2000s but he was still good in the 90s
If you were a WCW fan in 90/91 Flair was played out nobody could get the shine from him. Every match was a B..S finish.
@@erickennedy906 blame the booking boss not flair
Flair was part of the booking committee
Gaucho radios biffs plates salmon rep villa
No one like Jim Herd me must been a prick
Jim Herd was a genius in the wrestling business.
You know it's 2020. You figured these shoot interviews would be produced to an acceptable quality. Not some High School quality production. Of course, only mid carders do these interviews anyway
Heard had his problems , but as a Crockett fan since day one and Flair was getting stale in 1990.
you're the lone vote for cutting flair's hair and calling him spartacus
Wonder if Ric is ever gonna realize he’s the issue. I’m not saying Jim Herd was a good person to run WCW but every promotion Flair has been in, he’s had a issue with management. The sad truth is Flair is unprofessional. He exposed himself In publicly wearing a bathrobe constantly like a clown and agents would have to call the upper management to cover Flairs bar tab over the years cause he was broke. In WWE, he owed a pawn broker $20,000 and Triple H had to pony up the money for the NWA belt he put up as collateral. I respect his early career but he’s a clown.
Plus he tried and succeeded sometimes getting in bed with teens, even in his fifties. Disgusting junkie
When you have a draw as big as flair you put up with that shit, because if you have flair on the card you have a guaranteed sellout no matter where you are. Herd wanted him to cut his hair and call him spartactus. No wonder flair buried him.
As a Wrestler/Performer, Ric Flair is the greatest of all time!
As a human being? Seemingly spineless, an absentee irresponsible father, someone who was unfaithful to at least one of his wives, someone who hardly ever paid his taxes, was a virtual if not actual alcoholic and has spent countless hours 'burying' people who often had their home lives in much better order than him!
@@jamesbyersmusic true. He was an alcoholic for decades, drank a ton every day, had many enablers around him like his rightwing ex-wife (David's mother). Piece of shit human being
Flair was stale in 1990. Fans was looking as Flair as old. I can say it I was a NWA/WCW fan since 86 until it was close. Heard was a bad Booker. Flair ego was out of control.
Check our AEW?
thats why at the bash in 1991 the fans were chanting " we want flair ". the fans loved flair
I went to Wrestlepalooza 98. The loudest chant that night was "free Ric Flair" and that was at a ECW show. Not so stale.
Flair just came off 1989. He had the best year of any American wrestler in history.
Flair had the same desires as hogan....make money/stay on top he just wasn't as clever/manipulative or both as hogan.......flair is overrated as wrestler, he wanted to be the booker then when he realised itinvovlved hard work bailed everytime....mans ego got bruised and as we've come to k owner the years he was very insecure and mentally weak
Flair was a company guy he would put anybody over. Hogan never did. Even Hogan said he is the Goat.
@@rolltide9547 hogan was a babyface.....it would of killed the auro if he regularly put ppl over, heels can get away with putting ppl over.......hogan has said multiple people are the goat....hogan is also a well renowned bullshitter and will say whatever he needs 2 get ahead , that said I don't care if hogan said he's the GOAT, hogan isn't the authority on it, pro wrestling is pretty determined so deciding who the best is subjective...flair is ovverated....he could take an ass whooping as a heel but as a babyface he was the shits...little offense
@@jonjohnson1978. when Hogan was a heel in the NWO he never put people over. If Hogan is not an expert who is.
Piper, Sting, Luger, Goldberg
Jim Herd was full of nothing but the WORST ideas in wrestling. if it was a horrible idea you could almost bet that it came out of Jim Herd's garbage mind.
Not bummed who this bum hates, he was horrible to a good chap like Teddy Long during his time in 2003
Ric Racist Flair
You have to put things in perspective where Teddy Long has nothing but good things to say about Vince and how he was treated despite all of the questionable shit Vince has been involved in, yet just dresses down Flair as the worst kind of bigot. Teddy seems like someone who has the patience of a saint, imagine crossing that line.