So! First of all thanks so much! Yep, i’ll probably will change some of the present liveries with the 8k version, working on ap to understand why some of you has this problems; regarding the smoke: rhe white one is very light and is for multiplayer … this means that if other activate it, you’ll see that and only on the plane with the white smoke on, wile the color smokes are not, so if you use them, also all other Griffin will… regarding the name, this is what i was allowed to use ^_^
Hey I just got the plane is it normal when I do canyons runs in the California mountains it seems like the wing stop working like I can make any hard turns is this normal?
@@thesn00tyfox on which platform? I am having some report.. for someone no problem other problem like you… just activate ap and select lnav… btw i am working on an update to fix and improve some staff…
@@thesn00tyfox the problem is… if we use standard ap from asobo it work… but it work like on liner… if we change it to make it more “aggressive” to fly a plane that fly at 800kts… than the ap go creazy
@@thesn00tyfox i am trying to do my best .. making the plane lighter for both pc and xbox and maybe this could help.. plus fixing the ap… but this means that would be no more possible execute steep turn at 700kts
Nice review Flying Frog! I've had the G39 Griffin since released, I find it very easy to fly. Actually you can fly the approach and land at about 150 - 160 knots without the external tanks! It settles nicly onto the runway. Don't fly the approach at too high a speed! You are not supposed to flare a JAS 39 Gripen, just land it almost like the F/A-18E Super Hornet (but don't slam it into the runway US Navy style). As I'm a swede and have been working at the SAAB plant many years ago, I have some knowledge of these swedish fighters. They are made to land on short, narrow regular two lane countryroads, no time to flare at all then. You'll end up with the cows if you do! And, the Swedish Air Force usually keep their planes fairly clean, I was also in the airforce for one year. The Griffin is unusually dirty!
Here is a very nice video showing how JAS 39 Gripen is using the regular two lane roads in Sweden: ruclips.net/video/WAiUYHIS0Q0/видео.html go to 5:15 there you will se a nice landing on a two lane road.
I made a short video where I'm landing at the SAAB airfield ESSL rwy 11 in Linköping Sweden. Approach speed 170 knts landing speed approx 150 knts. ruclips.net/video/KDCAmvuh6pQ/видео.html
Are you having issues controlling the plane doing canyon runs when I go fast and I can’t even then it’s like the wings stop working and i slam into the ground
Thanks for your video Shawn. Yes... they are both delta wing aircraft with canards but the similarities stop there with me and my experience with it. I own both the euro fighter and this one, and it's my opinion that this aircraft is is much much better in every way. The textures inside and out, the cockpit, The sound, the physics And the options. I was not impressed with the euro fighter Typhoon by CJ simulations but I gotta tell you, this aircraft might be my new favorite military jet! You can control the canards on landings...I mapped a button. Wow! you weren't kidding about taxing the system with your smoke on! that's crazy! The stutters you get plus the other aircraft in the airport with their smoke turned on! Lol. I don't know if you have the Sydney Australia scenery pack but wow is it awesome!
No offense but your experience is questionable. Saying that the Griffin is better than CJ Typhoon (in a simulator that is suppose to give you a good rendition, close to the real plane) is baffling. Seriously this is not something you can say unless you're a massive troll. CJ Typhoon's avionics is MUCH MUCH better and deeper than what you get with the Griffin (Civilian Garmin in a military jet ? Really ? And it's the same on all the jets made by Deimos), not to mention the way it behaves in the sky. It's great if you are happy with it but comparing the two is something i don't understand. It's like saying that Ace Combat is better than MSFS... MSFS is a simulator and i expect a payware aircraft to give us a realistic enough rendition of the plane (outside and inside), not a nice 4K 3D model with no real avionics. Like i said, it's a nice step up in comparison with Deimos previous work but still, you're paying for a jet in a simulator, you should expect more than a nice skin with nothing else. That's my issue with Deimos. His jets are just empty shells most of the time. This one is better, definitely, but saying it's "much better" than CJ Typhoon is really something you can't say, unless you don't give a crap about what a simulator is supposed to be. And this is coming from someone who has bought all his jets. Everytime i expect something, and everytime i'm disappointed because it feels like he's not working on anything else than the "look" of the jet. Yes the Griffin looks good, but that's all.
@@MadX8 wow! That was just awful! Nothing but misinformation. You should not leave comments because everything you said was completely laughable!!! 😆 🤣 😂 And this is coming from a retired lieutenant in the United States Air Force and I also own every jet in the sim! And where do you get off saying any of that BS?! The only empty shell that I see is you! Idiot!
@@MadX8 It doesn't matter how many jets you have bought but the G39 Griffin is a better Aircraft to fly than the Eurotyphoon you mention. It just feels better in every way. I have bought 95% of Aircraft in the Sim as well and I feel the G39 Griffin is the better Jet. You can't call someone a troll for voicing his opinion or because you don't like it because you like the Typhoon better.
Riky I forgot the fuel probe in the large review but covered it in the Quick Fire Review, yes I thought that was the case that the first was 8k, I did find at least one spelling mistake in the checklist too.
About the name: I am not sure why infringement on SAAB properties would be any worse than any other manufacturer, but "The Griffin" is the literal translation of "Gripen". The 3 display setup was used on Gripen A/B/C/D, but the Griffin is supposed to be based on Gripen E which has a single wide display. While cool, it is not an accurate Gripen copy.
I tend not to say much, as I am introverted which is kind of weird because I do videos. I watch alot of others and tend not to comment unless I have something important to add or say.
Nice plane but I recently bought the Typhoon and they are so similar I’m not sure I need both of them in the hangar. If this had come out first I’d have probably bought it, but just a few weeks too late. Thanks for the review :)
So once you start diving into this jet a little bit more you're gonna see that it is 10 times better than a Typhoon! The sounds, the physics, the handling, the landings, the textures, the options and it just goes on and on... I won't even probably fly the Typhoon after getting this anymore it is just leagues ahead of it!
@@Foxtrot_EW I agree the typhoon sounds need an update as they are the f18 ones at launch (there was an update this week so maybe it’s now correct) and there are some little niggles but it’s another £20 I don’t want to spend right now. I’ve also heard a few are getting black avionics and CTD with it on Xbox at busy/custom locations (like Nellis). Might look at it if it goes on sale
@@alanharris2799 So I got a CDT with it at the payware airport, Travis Air Force base. But it did just fine at Nellis for me. We're probably still at least 6 weeks out before they fix the sound on The Typhoon euro fighter.
I have been flying this Griffin over the last 2 days with the TM Hotas One and boy o boy it has made a big difference to the controllability on landings, the review I was using the TB V1 so for now on I will use the Hotas for Military jets.
@@cjjohnson8567 no you are not using the wrong version, I have just got a Thrustmaster Hotas One for flying jet aircraft, when I did the review I used the Turtle Beach VelocityOne. I have found that Military Jets respond better to a HOTAS System. If you are finding controls not smooth have a look at your controller sensitivity anda just aileron and elevator axis to -50% as a start and see how you feel about the control of the aircraft then.
@@FlyngFrog After disabling some addons it improved a little. Xbox Cloud gives you very little storage space for addons and cache (had to disable even some official ones). Thanks for the reply anyway.
I just tested the Griffin and all went well, so first try a different airport if that does not change then uninstall aircraft then quit sim, open sim reinstall aircraft, quit sim then open sim and try to fly again. Hopefully that works for you.
@@oscarlara1299 you are welcome, another thing to try is delete your rolling cache and start with a fresh cache but remember after any changes to quit sim even shut down Xbox and then restart. Let me know how you get on or got on. All the best 👍🐸
Thanks for the review Frog. I can’t support a dev that takes 3D models from others, sometimes pirated, slaps on a default g3000 and shows little respect to the avionics or flight model of the source aircraft and hides behind fictional names. Did you see how the gear handle just clips through the panel plate? 😂 I also don’t get the relationship with MS that allows this stuff to show up on the marketplace faster than any other developer and remain on perpetual sale on the front page of the marketplace. 🤔
I call it as I see it, I don’t know if that is true or not and I am not in the position to comment. However remember Microsoft is running a business not a charity. I know that Diemos Inc has worked hard and long to get this Griffin to the market and yes it has some bugs but I know they will be fixed.
@@FlyngFrog Absolutely, but Deimos appears to get special treatment when it comes to marketplace approval times and sale listings highlighting his products versus other developers.
So! First of all thanks so much! Yep, i’ll probably will change some of the present liveries with the 8k version, working on ap to understand why some of you has this problems; regarding the smoke: rhe white one is very light and is for multiplayer … this means that if other activate it, you’ll see that and only on the plane with the white smoke on, wile the color smokes are not, so if you use them, also all other Griffin will… regarding the name, this is what i was allowed to use ^_^
Hey I just got the plane is it normal when I do canyons runs in the California mountains it seems like the wing stop working like I can make any hard turns is this normal?
@@glitcherPROXx mmmm that is strange, you can pull up to 20 aka .. of corse, if you are going at 700Kts .. you can not achieve that rate of turn
@@thesn00tyfox on which platform? I am having some report.. for someone no problem other problem like you… just activate ap and select lnav… btw i am working on an update to fix and improve some staff…
@@thesn00tyfox the problem is… if we use standard ap from asobo it work… but it work like on liner… if we change it to make it more “aggressive” to fly a plane that fly at 800kts… than the ap go creazy
@@thesn00tyfox i am trying to do my best .. making the plane lighter for both pc and xbox and maybe this could help.. plus fixing the ap… but this means that would be no more possible execute steep turn at 700kts
I agree I really wish we did know what was updated on the aircrafts
Nice review Flying Frog! I've had the G39 Griffin since released, I find it very easy to fly. Actually you can fly the approach and land at about 150 - 160 knots without the external tanks! It settles nicly onto the runway. Don't fly the approach at too high a speed! You are not supposed to flare a JAS 39 Gripen, just land it almost like the F/A-18E Super Hornet (but don't slam it into the runway US Navy style). As I'm a swede and have been working at the SAAB plant many years ago, I have some knowledge of these swedish fighters. They are made to land on short, narrow regular two lane countryroads, no time to flare at all then. You'll end up with the cows if you do!
And, the Swedish Air Force usually keep their planes fairly clean, I was also in the airforce for one year. The Griffin is unusually dirty!
Wow thanks for the flying tips, to be honest I did not try it without external tanks. 👍🐸😎
Here is a very nice video showing how JAS 39 Gripen is using the regular two lane roads in Sweden: ruclips.net/video/WAiUYHIS0Q0/видео.html go to 5:15 there you will se a nice landing on a two lane road.
I made a short video where I'm landing at the SAAB airfield ESSL rwy 11 in Linköping Sweden. Approach speed 170 knts landing speed approx 150 knts.
ruclips.net/video/KDCAmvuh6pQ/видео.html
Are you having issues controlling the plane doing canyon runs when I go fast and I can’t even then it’s like the wings stop working and i slam into the ground
@@glitcherPROXx you need to keep your speed up and not to turn to hard as you can stall the wings
This Jet is unbelievable I absolutely love it!
DeimoS Inc has done a fantastic job.
@@FlyngFrog yea man it’s a total blast!
Great Jet I have to say. Best work from Deimos so far. Thanks for the review.
Agreed!
It is and it is great to see a Developer grow.
Thanks for your video Shawn. Yes... they are both delta wing aircraft with canards but the similarities stop there with me and my experience with it. I own both the euro fighter and this one, and it's my opinion that this aircraft is is much much better in every way. The textures inside and out, the cockpit, The sound, the physics And the options. I was not impressed with the euro fighter Typhoon by CJ simulations but I gotta tell you, this aircraft might be my new favorite military jet! You can control the canards on landings...I mapped a button. Wow! you weren't kidding about taxing the system with your smoke on! that's crazy! The stutters you get plus the other aircraft in the airport with their smoke turned on! Lol. I don't know if you have the Sydney Australia scenery pack but wow is it awesome!
No offense but your experience is questionable. Saying that the Griffin is better than CJ Typhoon (in a simulator that is suppose to give you a good rendition, close to the real plane) is baffling. Seriously this is not something you can say unless you're a massive troll.
CJ Typhoon's avionics is MUCH MUCH better and deeper than what you get with the Griffin (Civilian Garmin in a military jet ? Really ? And it's the same on all the jets made by Deimos), not to mention the way it behaves in the sky.
It's great if you are happy with it but comparing the two is something i don't understand. It's like saying that Ace Combat is better than MSFS...
MSFS is a simulator and i expect a payware aircraft to give us a realistic enough rendition of the plane (outside and inside), not a nice 4K 3D model with no real avionics.
Like i said, it's a nice step up in comparison with Deimos previous work but still, you're paying for a jet in a simulator, you should expect more than a nice skin with nothing else. That's my issue with Deimos. His jets are just empty shells most of the time. This one is better, definitely, but saying it's "much better" than CJ Typhoon is really something you can't say, unless you don't give a crap about what a simulator is supposed to be.
And this is coming from someone who has bought all his jets. Everytime i expect something, and everytime i'm disappointed because it feels like he's not working on anything else than the "look" of the jet. Yes the Griffin looks good, but that's all.
@@MadX8 wow! That was just awful! Nothing but misinformation. You should not leave comments because everything you said was completely laughable!!! 😆 🤣 😂 And this is coming from a retired lieutenant in the United States Air Force and I also own every jet in the sim! And where do you get off saying any of that BS?! The only empty shell that I see is you! Idiot!
@@MadX8 It doesn't matter how many jets you have bought but the G39 Griffin is a better Aircraft to fly than the Eurotyphoon you mention. It just feels better in every way. I have bought 95% of Aircraft in the Sim as well and I feel the G39 Griffin is the better Jet. You can't call someone a troll for voicing his opinion or because you don't like it because you like the Typhoon better.
@@QuantumGamingUploads sense. Well Said! And correct!!!
@@Foxtrot_EW I wasn't going to comment but him calling your experience questionable is nonsense you being a real pilot as well.
Awesome video thank you for post. Just downloaded on my Xbox for twelve dollars. Love the cockpit
Your videos are beautiful .. Wonderful military jet! I want it! Thank you very much from northern Italy ❤ Frank.
Thanks Frog! I am watching the video now… btw those livery is just 4K… the first one is a 8k
Riky I forgot the fuel probe in the large review but covered it in the Quick Fire Review, yes I thought that was the case that the first was 8k, I did find at least one spelling mistake in the checklist too.
@@FlyngFrog please write me via pm on discord the mistake so i can fix them for next update ! thanks
@@DesmoDeimos will do mate 👍
About the name: I am not sure why infringement on SAAB properties would be any worse than any other manufacturer, but "The Griffin" is the literal translation of "Gripen". The 3 display setup was used on Gripen A/B/C/D, but the Griffin is supposed to be based on Gripen E which has a single wide display. While cool, it is not an accurate Gripen copy.
There are licensing laws and SAAB did not want DeimoS Inc to use it, that is the same reason Asobo could not use some liveries for some aircraft.
I'm curious...I see Quantum comments on all your videos, but never the reverse???
I tend not to say much, as I am introverted which is kind of weird because I do videos. I watch alot of others and tend not to comment unless I have something important to add or say.
@@FlyngFrog makes scense.
I love this airplane!
It’s not too bad at all 👍👍
That's a great plain as long as you can get the instruments to load in
It is but I am not sure either.
You had me at the Peter Gabriel sample 😂
ssssshhhhh!👍
Great review!
Nice plane but I recently bought the Typhoon and they are so similar I’m not sure I need both of them in the hangar. If this had come out first I’d have probably bought it, but just a few weeks too late. Thanks for the review :)
Agreed, but I feel the Griffin (Gripen) is marginally better. For now.
So once you start diving into this jet a little bit more you're gonna see that it is 10 times better than a Typhoon! The sounds, the physics, the handling, the landings, the textures, the options and it just goes on and on... I won't even probably fly the Typhoon after getting this anymore it is just leagues ahead of it!
@@Foxtrot_EW I agree the typhoon sounds need an update as they are the f18 ones at launch (there was an update this week so maybe it’s now correct) and there are some little niggles but it’s another £20 I don’t want to spend right now. I’ve also heard a few are getting black avionics and CTD with it on Xbox at busy/custom locations (like Nellis). Might look at it if it goes on sale
@@alanharris2799 So I got a CDT with it at the payware airport, Travis Air Force base. But it did just fine at Nellis for me. We're probably still at least 6 weeks out before they fix the sound on The Typhoon euro fighter.
@@Foxtrot_EW I prefer the Griffin hands down, there are still some bugs 🐛 but the fly swat will get them soon.
Did they fix the smoke performance 💨?
Nice plane, etc but it flies a little choppy. It needs an update
I have been flying this Griffin over the last 2 days with the TM Hotas One and boy o boy it has made a big difference to the controllability on landings, the review I was using the TB V1 so for now on I will use the Hotas for Military jets.
@@FlyngFrog I'm not familiar with what you mean
@@FlyngFrog am I using the wrong version of the plane?
@@cjjohnson8567 no you are not using the wrong version, I have just got a Thrustmaster Hotas One for flying jet aircraft, when I did the review I used the Turtle Beach VelocityOne. I have found that Military Jets respond better to a HOTAS System. If you are finding controls not smooth have a look at your controller sensitivity anda just aileron and elevator axis to -50% as a start and see how you feel about the control of the aircraft then.
@@FlyngFrog ok. Thank you for your insights. I'll try it out
Do you have any idea why my plane doesn’t follow the LNAV course? Only HDG works
No sorry I don’t know why.
Fun plane, but for some reason it decreases the scenery quality quite a lot. I'm also playing the Xbox version (on the streaming cloud service).
dont know what is going on there, that could be a syncing issue with Asobo servers.
@@FlyngFrog After disabling some addons it improved a little. Xbox Cloud gives you very little storage space for addons and cache (had to disable even some official ones). Thanks for the reply anyway.
@@Negostrike Ahh that makes sense, well you live and learn. Thanks for letting me know 👍🐸
Hold 145 knop speed slow down to 135 knop for Landing perfekt. Swedish Guy 🇸🇪✌🏼😎 39 Gripen E
Is this your base airport?
Yes it is, it is Shell Harbour New South Wales 👍🐸
@@FlyngFrog nice. Mines is at Genoa Italy
@@freddiecunningham2860 thats my fav Airport as well mate
@@QuantumGamingUploads Yeah I have a thing for airports on near warter
Will they update autopilot
I do in joy fly it
It is not to bad and I prefer it than the Typhoon.
Pilot doesn’t appear for me
I'm playing this on the series X and every time I try to do a cold start or take off from a runaway it crashes my game anyone else having that issue
I have not tried it since it was updated but I will try in a few hours and report back.
I just tested the Griffin and all went well, so first try a different airport if that does not change then uninstall aircraft then quit sim, open sim reinstall aircraft, quit sim then open sim and try to fly again. Hopefully that works for you.
@@FlyngFrog I actually appreciate that you did this thank you
@@oscarlara1299 you are welcome, another thing to try is delete your rolling cache and start with a fresh cache but remember after any changes to quit sim even shut down Xbox and then restart. Let me know how you get on or got on. All the best 👍🐸
Im on xbox and can't enter airport ID in GPS.
Thanks for the review Frog. I can’t support a dev that takes 3D models from others, sometimes pirated, slaps on a default g3000 and shows little respect to the avionics or flight model of the source aircraft and hides behind fictional names. Did you see how the gear handle just clips through the panel plate? 😂
I also don’t get the relationship with MS that allows this stuff to show up on the marketplace faster than any other developer and remain on perpetual sale on the front page of the marketplace. 🤔
Your loss!
I call it as I see it, I don’t know if that is true or not and I am not in the position to comment. However remember Microsoft is running a business not a charity. I know that Diemos Inc has worked hard and long to get this Griffin to the market and yes it has some bugs but I know they will be fixed.
@@Foxtrot_EW Not really, there are so many better aircraft in the sim to spend my money on and spend my time with.
@@FlyngFrog Absolutely, but Deimos appears to get special treatment when it comes to marketplace approval times and sale listings highlighting his products versus other developers.
@@FlyngFrog well said!
I dont understand why tere is no hungarian airforce livery yet there is ukrainian, wich dont use it
Sorry for that, i just did it.. will be available with next update.. i hope to release some other liveries, sorry for that
@@greisydeimos8632 no problem man thx for the fast correction i think this is the best jet on the marketplace so far so keep going:)
When I fly it in I notice it’ll start barely turning like the wings aren’t working
have you adjusted you controller sensitivities.
𝕡𝕣𝕠𝕞𝕠𝕤𝕞
That landing was awful lmao
Yes I agree but what makes you an expert.