Oof, the way Imelda just deflects all of what Weepe has to say makes my blood boil. She knows what she did and she did it on purpose but she’ll never admit that to anybody
Right? “I don’t know where you are every moment of every day!” No, but she knew where he was in *that exact moment* on *that precise day* , because she was watching him walk to his bar as she gave the order for Phineas to immediately raid the same establishment.
I went from finding Imelda an entertaining grandmotherly figure to having the most visceral fight-or-flight reaction whenever she starts talking... You guys are really killing it with this character writing. How I wish this episode was longer! Fourteen minutes is not nearly enough to satisfy me for a whole week - I need moreeeee
Spahr comes across as a good dude with blind spots. His loyalty is with the trust who's morality is grey at best, but he also seems like a product of the Trust himself in the same way Phineas is a product of the trust. Good man in a bad system making the most of it however he can. its unfortunate he failed Phineas in the end.
@@Landis963 yeah, i kind of figured that wasnt going to happen after i got thru to the end, would be too early anyways. Imelda makes everyone so mad, and is so good at what she does, gotta keep her around for tension! either way, Midst is fantastic
After everything, I can't believe you made me sympathize with Spahr AND Weepe. I shudder to say it, but I'm afraid you'll turn around and do the same with Imelda in another episode-I fully believe you could. Brilliant storytelling as always!
I'm glad we can know for sure Spahr truly cares for Phineas, i thought perhaps he had something more terrible hidden underneath- but it seems just like Phineas, Spahr is part of a long chain where he can't really get out, unless he wants something bad to happen to him.
Spahr understands the demands of his position much better than Phineas. That knowledge lets him exist more comfortably than Phineas, but grants no freedom.
I wouldn't say "suddenly." The last episode of season 1 started that turn around for Spahr, but he also clearly always did care about trying to help Phineas live his best life.
He seems to be a very utilitarian person, but I don’t think I ever really disliked him. I’ve always thought of him like a strict military officer, someone you might not want to meet, but definitely someone that solves problems you wouldn’t like to.
No he’s still a dutiful soldier,it’s not about likability. Totally unrelated, pragmatic in his duties yet, he feels a somewhat teetering responsibility for his recruit’s actions. Phineas has an overzealous nature to belong but, I’m not stating anything that you all don’t know already.
"Most of the company is here... except for some guy" Why'd you do that to poor Phineas? The guy's been through enough as it is... and it's probably about to get worse
well... Phineas deserved it, he almost killed Tzila's dad, i was crying the time i tought he was dead, in fact, Tzila thinks Sherman is dead because he looked dead to Lark, so whatever bad thing comes to Phineas he asked for it >:(
@@Ryquard1Lark murdering a seemingly innocent man set these events into motion. Phineas did wrong but Lark is nearly as much the reason Sherman got hurt as Phineas is.
this is likely obvious to virtually everyone listening, but the sound design really makes this podcast. I don't even notice it's there most of the time - which is a testament to how good it is.
Spahr, S1, to Phineas: "Deal with your issues yourself somehow, and I don't care that your freedom was within your grasp, but got snatched away again" Spahr, S2: *pikachu face*
I must be a goblin is being comanded to do vile acts by an opressive and comanding evil figure because everytime Midst drops I start giggling in excitment.
people who didn't clock Imelda as the bad guy by the middle of S1 have never had an abusive parent. Which I'm happy for you! But the signs are STRIKING. Lady was throwing the most rancid red flags.
@@justpassingby953 she is a master manipulator, that gets under your skin, makes herself look small and helpless so you lower your guard, then she plants ideas on you and gaslight you, to finally pounce and treat you like a puppet.
@@Ryquard1 100% this. And it’s why she’s better at it than Weepe could ever be. She knows the value in wearing a constant mask of earnest, well-intentioned foolishness. He’s willing to feign ignorance in specific ways, but his propensity for subtle (and blatant) insults in almost every interaction bely his need to feel (and usually be seen as) the smartest person in every room.
Imelda has always given me Delores Umbridge vibes. This episode continues to prove that saccharine sweetness of hers hides a calculating and manipulative nature.
I gotta say, in season 1 I assumed that Spahr is just one of the lucky few who got out of debt and now just embraces Trust ideology and doesn't give a fuck about the less fortunate. But his worry for Phineas and his guilt are very touching. It's good to have someone to root for on this side of the moon crash beside the diabolical bastard.
I don't understand why people are suddenly surprised that Spahr is not an evil person. I thought it was clear from his first appearance that he was a good man who tries to help and do the right thing and "just" so happens to be completely indoctrinated. Also Spahr-Weepe is a duo I didn't know I wanted but now I desperately need. Unexpected allies!
Ahhh, the plot thickens like I'm wading into a pool of quicksand that I welcome sinking into! From one narrator to you all, thanks for this amazing ride so far😀
To be fair... Weepe still has much more money than anyone else in society. Even if the money is worthless, he has more of each valor than others, so it makes sense that Imelda's spinning him as an Upper Trustee. Also, I wholeheartedly love that Sparr and Weepe both now realize how slippery Imelda is, and despite probably helping her to save themselves, they might one day be able to turn on her. That would be so satisfying.
Ahh that's some nice twisting of the knife and plot. Weepe reverse blackmails himself and accidentally secures a position with the Upper trust crust when he just wanted to strike it filthy rich. He's stuck with the Trust for good, unless he tries to breach and become a criminal (well, more than before ya know) just like how Saskia was helping people escape the trust. Imelda takes this whole moonfall in her stride as she does everything. Lol it's hard to tell if she was in on it or if she is just that unflinchingly devoted to the trust.
And silence grips our morality as we are only witnesses to the dramatic unfolding of what if and oh my gosh what else... we can only listen... and imagine... what a glorious place to be lost in thought!
My suspicions of Imelda’s idiosyncrasies are steadily coalescing into certainties. Weepe is a bad person, there’s a plethora of evidence highlighting that, but the subtleties in Imelda’s villainous actions are far more terrifying and sinister. Now she’s got a member of the Upper Trust who she can control- oops, accidentally outed Weepe as a traitor to his community, that’s a shame, he’s isolated now. Well, fortunately he has this new society to mingle with- because he loves The Trust, right? After all, if he didn’t betray his business for altruistic purposes, if somehow what he did was just for personal gain, well, that wouldn’t be very Valorous(TM) would it? Why, someone like that would be drowning in caenum for the rest of his opalescent life. She’s incredible at making unethical, yet unarguably practical, statements. “Disaster happening? Sure, it’s sad- but the exchange rate is more important than these people’s lives. The truth can’t get out.” “It’s a shame about having to fire/abandon/repudiate Phineas (and potentially Pom, judging by her remarks in this episode), but after all, they were so irresponsible and it would be just awful to see someone upstanding like Spahr get dragged into their mistakes.”
She might have underestimated how spiteful Weepe is, he's going to hold that against her until she's dead; and he has a ready supply of a unique murder weapon and body disposal tool. Still though she has people pretty much where she wants them and has been pulling all the strings.
@@4dragons632 That’s a good point- she played him like a fiddle, but her ultimate downfall is more likely to be Weepe than anyone else. After all, Atticus Concord wasn’t new to blackmail- his methods were successful until he underestimated how dangerous and ruthless Weepe is.
I am in absolute awe of Imelda Goldfinch. It may all still go horribly, horribly wrong for the Trust (not loving this press conference idea with two (!!) loose cannons, though I get why she's doing it, and doing it *right now* ), but if it falls, it won't be because Imelda didn't do *_her absolute best_* ... and her "absolute best" is a bloody force of nature. It was hysterically funny to hear Spahr consider her "a mere Notary". Pretty sure she's an *extremely* high-ranking Trustee purposefully (or at her own request) kept at a lower level to keep the reins on (possible) loose cannons (like Spahr) down there where the openly high ranks don't go and never see. But someone as good and as 'on the ball' as that -- in the middle of multiple disasters, no less -- is not someone who has gone unnoticed by upper management. Her (extraordinary) skills have undoubtedly been noticed and are being utilized. ..... There's an Upper Trust? (Of course there is.) And Weepe's now a part of it, with "voting rights" or whatever? Just a couple more moves and Imelda should have him bagged and turn him whatever direction she sees fit. As long as we can keep that medical issue in hand, of course. Just a _little_ wildcard. Poor old Spahr. Hope the big corporate gears that are turning don't grind the rest of the simple humanity out of him, but maybe it would be best if they did. He might be more effective 😂.
It was also pretty funny how Imelda, after putatively conferring "Infinite Cosmic Power" on Weepe by informing him of his status as a member of the Upper Trust.... disenfranchises him immediately thereafter by brushing off his (admittedly mild) complaint -- only to then again stress his importance to the further operation of the Trust. That "Sandwich Technique". Never goes out of style. Apparently 😄.
Amazing! I wonder if the power Imelda thinks she has over Weepe will stand its ground when he's given the opportunity to stir things up in front of the media.
Come on a journey of thought with me. Imelda's first action has always been to look for a wealthy member of midst inner society and invest them in the trust. This seems standard for a notary, but subtle signs indicate her angle of attack is pointed toward her own interests rather than any faith in the religion. This is not the actions of a fully-faithful first contact to evangelize. She was high up, and sent herself to this backwards dirtball to take advantage of the opportunity. What opportunity? If she could find someone gullible enough (weepe) to buy in at just the right moment, she could set things up to create a upper level trustee. Once he is embeded, she will show the paperwork proving his elevation was unwarrented and have power in a i made you i can unmake you setup. What follows after is a stalin general secretery becomes supreme ruler through controlling things behind the scenes.
I agree entirely. I suspect that despite the affable way patrons refer to Weepe, those in the know are aware he is intelligent, unscrupulous, tenacious, dangerous, and especially prideful. Making him perfect prey for her machinations- so she flatters him while presenting as an easy mark for him to manipulate. By the time he fully realizes what’s happening, it’ll be too late- I mean, it’s already too late now and I think his shock, anger, pride, and greed have prevented him from seeing the situation clearly yet. She also won’t even need to threaten him, she makes pointed statements that convey the danger without highlighting her obvious malevolence. Spahr *wants* to blame her for what happened, yet internally he fully believes it’s entirely his fault. Interesting that Imelda sent Phineas when she did- he was supposed to be working on the classified investigation at the time, an investigation which could make or break him. He’s also under fierce scrutiny and feeling increasingly desperate. She also likely knows Tzila was part of the investigation- and her father’s name is on the list of people she sent Phineas to retrieve. I’m not saying she knew what Phineas would do, but I think she knowingly sent a desperate person into a volatile situation- and she is not entirely blameless. Spahr has the most reason to accuse her, but she’s led him to ‘realize’ that it’s all his fault.
Imelda is more and more getting a spot on my dislike-o-meter, that VERY few female characters reach - up until now only Dolores Umbridge and Cercy Lannister.
I wonder if Weepe's voice is getting messed up because he's now being exposed to so much micro mica in the air? All of that getting into his system might be causing a ton of mini-tearors throughout his body.
Is Spahr the newest protagonist to join this motley crew of monsters and bastards and ne'er-do-wells. Welcome to the club, the Midsties are ready for more complicated emotions.
Oh fuck. I just caught up after binging since the release of the Sam & Marisha Q&A. Now i have to wait for weekly releases? Drop it all on me like the moon. I NEED more Midst
How do they keep creating masterpiece after masterpiece every single episode. Like normally the sequel or the second season of a show or movie has the trope of being bad. But literally every single episode just gets better than the The one before
Oh, dude, this is so short T_T by the way, does Weepe's voice seem a bit... Weak and unhealthy? It can't be just bad voice acting, Weepe must be going through something tearror-y? Also, the line when Imelda kinda recruits him to do administration is brilliant and cracked me up for good xD
Somehow the detail that caught my attention most was that medical case Weepe is still holding on to. What's that thing for, exactly? Why is it so important for him? What will happens if (when) he eventually looses it? Where did he send the samples of the black stuff to last season and for what purpose? So many unanswered questions surrounding that little medical case.
There's a lot still unanswered about it, but I think some things can be gleaned from context: for one thing, it is referred to as a _medical_ case, and Weepe states point blank that he'll die without it. It's probably the same case that appears in s1e12, when Weepe is interrupted by Concord whilst trying to siphon black stuff out of his veins. In that episode, Weepe was in a lot of pain, and seemingly withdrawing the substance (using a syringe from the case) in order to alleviate it. What exactly the black stuff is, why it's inside of Weepe, and who he's sending those packages to may be a mystery... but evidence suggests Weepe has a medical condition that would become fatal if left untreated, and that's what the case is for.
@@thallium6754 I do get all of that. I even called it a medical case myself. But none of those details do really answer anything. They just raise more questions. As usual with Midst. We do also know that Weepe had some sort of a fold incident at some point in the past. And I'm assuming that caused his weird and unique black-stuff-and-pain medical case - along with his unusual skin and eye color. But that's really just speculation. So, why does he need to siphon that black stuff from his veins? How often does he need to do that? (I'm assuming about once a day, because I seem to remember it being mentioned how he was usually sending his packages every day.) What will happen if he doesn't do do it? Does he have to use a specific syringe for that purpose or could he easily substitute it with any other (medical) syringe? There's got to be something like that on the Trust ship, right? And at some point in this season, Imelda will be acompanied by a "monster". Will that monster be Weepe? Will he be a literal monster? Will his medical case be the reason he will be that monster? Or is this just another red hering? And what is going on with Weepe's voice? So, yeah... evidence suggests. But the narrators are good at suggesting some very misleading things that turn out not being the case after all. So I'm very intreagued here and not willing to jump to conclusions yet.
I love Spahr's design, and character designs in general. Incorporating valor beads into trustees uniforms is genius 🤠 Edit: the parallels between him and Phineas... Ow. Well written characters
Well...those lines got jumped pretty fast. Thought I had a good grasp of the various villains. Who knew everyone would be switching sides to the point I don't know who's good, who's bad, & who's ugly!?!
Imelda is a master manipulator and now Spahr and Weepe know it. Imelda was giving Umbridge vibes before, but now is so much more dangerous. Umbridge was a tool, Imelda is a wielder of tools.
The money that was converted into valor? Oh, it's all gone now. Dollars turned to pennies (if they're lucky) during the Valor crash. Edit: I'm currently still enjoying Imelda... BUT... she's drifting toward Dolores Umbridge territory.
I love the bits with Imelda, she is so good at being the most insidious person. Umbridge slowly gained control of a school, and was more obvious in her passive aggression, which I think made her more annoying for me.
Weepe's getting extra growly and raspy. Props to Xen for their work making such a subtle but noticeable shift.
kind of reminds me of alex brightmans performance as beetlejuice
Oof, the way Imelda just deflects all of what Weepe has to say makes my blood boil. She knows what she did and she did it on purpose but she’ll never admit that to anybody
Right? “I don’t know where you are every moment of every day!”
No, but she knew where he was in *that exact moment* on *that precise day* , because she was watching him walk to his bar as she gave the order for Phineas to immediately raid the same establishment.
I went from finding Imelda an entertaining grandmotherly figure to having the most visceral fight-or-flight reaction whenever she starts talking... You guys are really killing it with this character writing.
How I wish this episode was longer! Fourteen minutes is not nearly enough to satisfy me for a whole week - I need moreeeee
Not only Im starting to feel bad for Spahr of all people, Im starting to think that Imelda is the true villain of this whole story.
Or that she knew there was a chance of it happening. I'm CONVINCED that Kozma sold Midst knowing there was a chance of some kinda accident
@@Nylota I think someone did it to purposefully destroy the valor 'economy'
@@Nylota Or hear me out they did it deliberately to destroy the Trust.
Spahr comes across as a good dude with blind spots. His loyalty is with the trust who's morality is grey at best, but he also seems like a product of the Trust himself in the same way Phineas is a product of the trust. Good man in a bad system making the most of it however he can. its unfortunate he failed Phineas in the end.
I am liking Imelda less and less as time goes on. She is pure ice. Well done on another excellent episode.
I'm just waiting for Spahr to be like: "oh I don't know what happened, she just fell off the side of the deck! All on her own!".
OMG, she's Dolores Umbridge
@@DauntlessChaos YES! as soon as Spahr and Weep make eyecontact... i was all OMG THEY GONNA PASTE HER
@adamh1228 She survives until the flashforward at least. Alas.
@@Landis963 yeah, i kind of figured that wasnt going to happen after i got thru to the end, would be too early anyways. Imelda makes everyone so mad, and is so good at what she does, gotta keep her around for tension! either way, Midst is fantastic
After everything, I can't believe you made me sympathize with Spahr AND Weepe. I shudder to say it, but I'm afraid you'll turn around and do the same with Imelda in another episode-I fully believe you could. Brilliant storytelling as always!
I'm glad we can know for sure Spahr truly cares for Phineas, i thought perhaps he had something more terrible hidden underneath- but it seems just like Phineas, Spahr is part of a long chain where he can't really get out, unless he wants something bad to happen to him.
Spahr understands the demands of his position much better than Phineas. That knowledge lets him exist more comfortably than Phineas, but grants no freedom.
This woman is more dangerous than any Blinding
It wouldn't surprise me if she actually talks a Blinding into something one day, she might as well be a Blinding in Notary's clothing...
Did...did they just make Spahr out to be a likable person suddenly? SPAHR?
It's all relative
I never didn’t like him, he’s just in the system but always wanted the best for Phineas
I wouldn't say "suddenly." The last episode of season 1 started that turn around for Spahr, but he also clearly always did care about trying to help Phineas live his best life.
He seems to be a very utilitarian person, but I don’t think I ever really disliked him. I’ve always thought of him like a strict military officer, someone you might not want to meet, but definitely someone that solves problems you wouldn’t like to.
No he’s still a dutiful soldier,it’s not about likability. Totally unrelated, pragmatic in his duties yet, he feels a somewhat teetering responsibility for his recruit’s actions. Phineas has an overzealous nature to belong but, I’m not stating anything that you all don’t know already.
"Most of the company is here... except for some guy"
Why'd you do that to poor Phineas? The guy's been through enough as it is... and it's probably about to get worse
Probably definitely maybe
Definitely about to get worse poor guy cant catch a break 🤣
well... Phineas deserved it, he almost killed Tzila's dad, i was crying the time i tought he was dead, in fact, Tzila thinks Sherman is dead because he looked dead to Lark, so whatever bad thing comes to Phineas he asked for it >:(
@@Ryquard1 This is why I love midst. Every character is simultaneously a despicable asshole and a lovable role model
@@Ryquard1Lark murdering a seemingly innocent man set these events into motion. Phineas did wrong but Lark is nearly as much the reason Sherman got hurt as Phineas is.
this is likely obvious to virtually everyone listening, but the sound design really makes this podcast. I don't even notice it's there most of the time - which is a testament to how good it is.
Spahr, S1, to Phineas: "Deal with your issues yourself somehow, and I don't care that your freedom was within your grasp, but got snatched away again"
Spahr, S2: *pikachu face*
I never thought the leopards would eat my face!!
Well, at least he knows he fumbled it the heck up! Recognising failure is the first step after all
I must be a goblin is being comanded to do vile acts by an opressive and comanding evil figure because everytime Midst drops I start giggling in excitment.
Ahhh Fuck me, I want more. I ALSO WANT Goldfinch to get thorwn off the ship so BADLY!
people who didn't clock Imelda as the bad guy by the middle of S1 have never had an abusive parent. Which I'm happy for you! But the signs are STRIKING. Lady was throwing the most rancid red flags.
I mean I found her very suspicious very early. But im curious what red flags you identified?
just replying bc i would like to know too lol@@justpassingby953
@@justpassingby953 she is a master manipulator, that gets under your skin, makes herself look small and helpless so you lower your guard, then she plants ideas on you and gaslight you, to finally pounce and treat you like a puppet.
@@Ryquard1 100% this. And it’s why she’s better at it than Weepe could ever be. She knows the value in wearing a constant mask of earnest, well-intentioned foolishness.
He’s willing to feign ignorance in specific ways, but his propensity for subtle (and blatant) insults in almost every interaction bely his need to feel (and usually be seen as) the smartest person in every room.
I'm glad I saw the movie version of Order of the Phoenix, then, because I knew she was going to be a problem from the moment we met her.
God the further in these episodes get the more tense everything becomes
I love how Imelda and Weepe are playing each other but only one of them knows it
Imelda has always rubbed me the wrong way, but this episode... She's downright dangerous. Can't wait to see what comes next
the art is so amazing and it keeps getting better! and imelda scare me sooooo much! im so interested in what she might know and do!
Imelda is an absolute MENACE, the way she just deflected everything Spahr has said and turned it against him is just... dreadful
This is easily one of the most engaging stories I’ve ever listened to.
This is just so good. I'm fully obsessed with everyone's voice acting, the ambiance, the story. This episode is particularly amazing. Just, wow
Imelda has always given me Delores Umbridge vibes. This episode continues to prove that saccharine sweetness of hers hides a calculating and manipulative nature.
Love that Imelda is more of a monster than Weepe ever was saw that a mile away but its nice to see it in full
I gotta say, in season 1 I assumed that Spahr is just one of the lucky few who got out of debt and now just embraces Trust ideology and doesn't give a fuck about the less fortunate. But his worry for Phineas and his guilt are very touching. It's good to have someone to root for on this side of the moon crash beside the diabolical bastard.
I don't understand why people are suddenly surprised that Spahr is not an evil person. I thought it was clear from his first appearance that he was a good man who tries to help and do the right thing and "just" so happens to be completely indoctrinated. Also Spahr-Weepe is a duo I didn't know I wanted but now I desperately need. Unexpected allies!
The ship swooshes unwards. I like that, that was clever.
Ahhh, the plot thickens like I'm wading into a pool of quicksand that I welcome sinking into! From one narrator to you all, thanks for this amazing ride so far😀
the updating art as the story is told helps a lot
To be fair... Weepe still has much more money than anyone else in society. Even if the money is worthless, he has more of each valor than others, so it makes sense that Imelda's spinning him as an Upper Trustee. Also, I wholeheartedly love that Sparr and Weepe both now realize how slippery Imelda is, and despite probably helping her to save themselves, they might one day be able to turn on her. That would be so satisfying.
Ahh that's some nice twisting of the knife and plot.
Weepe reverse blackmails himself and accidentally secures a position with the Upper trust crust when he just wanted to strike it filthy rich. He's stuck with the Trust for good, unless he tries to breach and become a criminal (well, more than before ya know) just like how Saskia was helping people escape the trust.
Imelda takes this whole moonfall in her stride as she does everything. Lol it's hard to tell if she was in on it or if she is just that unflinchingly devoted to the trust.
Not us empathizing with Sphar!
How is it possible for this already near perfect show to be getting BETTER by the episode?
Love how the art for the ship....is a paper airplane! I can't unsee it! lol
And silence grips our morality as we are only witnesses to the dramatic unfolding of what if and oh my gosh what else... we can only listen... and imagine... what a glorious place to be lost in thought!
Another a good episode, as always. I love this form of story telling.
Imelda is one of the best villains I've come across in a long time. Bravo!
Moc is such a terrible person...but...I love his character. Probably my favorite character right now, he's just got so many secrets
My suspicions of Imelda’s idiosyncrasies are steadily coalescing into certainties.
Weepe is a bad person, there’s a plethora of evidence highlighting that, but the subtleties in Imelda’s villainous actions are far more terrifying and sinister.
Now she’s got a member of the Upper Trust who she can control- oops, accidentally outed Weepe as a traitor to his community, that’s a shame, he’s isolated now. Well, fortunately he has this new society to mingle with- because he loves The Trust, right? After all, if he didn’t betray his business for altruistic purposes, if somehow what he did was just for personal gain, well, that wouldn’t be very Valorous(TM) would it? Why, someone like that would be drowning in caenum for the rest of his opalescent life.
She’s incredible at making unethical, yet unarguably practical, statements.
“Disaster happening? Sure, it’s sad- but the exchange rate is more important than these people’s lives. The truth can’t get out.”
“It’s a shame about having to fire/abandon/repudiate Phineas (and potentially Pom, judging by her remarks in this episode), but after all, they were so irresponsible and it would be just awful to see someone upstanding like Spahr get dragged into their mistakes.”
She might have underestimated how spiteful Weepe is, he's going to hold that against her until she's dead; and he has a ready supply of a unique murder weapon and body disposal tool. Still though she has people pretty much where she wants them and has been pulling all the strings.
@@4dragons632 That’s a good point- she played him like a fiddle, but her ultimate downfall is more likely to be Weepe than anyone else. After all, Atticus Concord wasn’t new to blackmail- his methods were successful until he underestimated how dangerous and ruthless Weepe is.
I am in absolute awe of Imelda Goldfinch. It may all still go horribly, horribly wrong for the Trust (not loving this press conference idea with two (!!) loose cannons, though I get why she's doing it, and doing it *right now* ), but if it falls, it won't be because Imelda didn't do *_her absolute best_* ... and her "absolute best" is a bloody force of nature. It was hysterically funny to hear Spahr consider her "a mere Notary". Pretty sure she's an *extremely* high-ranking Trustee purposefully (or at her own request) kept at a lower level to keep the reins on (possible) loose cannons (like Spahr) down there where the openly high ranks don't go and never see. But someone as good and as 'on the ball' as that -- in the middle of multiple disasters, no less -- is not someone who has gone unnoticed by upper management. Her (extraordinary) skills have undoubtedly been noticed and are being utilized.
..... There's an Upper Trust? (Of course there is.) And Weepe's now a part of it, with "voting rights" or whatever? Just a couple more moves and Imelda should have him bagged and turn him whatever direction she sees fit. As long as we can keep that medical issue in hand, of course. Just a _little_ wildcard.
Poor old Spahr. Hope the big corporate gears that are turning don't grind the rest of the simple humanity out of him, but maybe it would be best if they did. He might be more effective 😂.
It was also pretty funny how Imelda, after putatively conferring "Infinite Cosmic Power" on Weepe by informing him of his status as a member of the Upper Trust.... disenfranchises him immediately thereafter by brushing off his (admittedly mild) complaint -- only to then again stress his importance to the further operation of the Trust. That "Sandwich Technique". Never goes out of style. Apparently 😄.
Amazing! I wonder if the power Imelda thinks she has over Weepe will stand its ground when he's given the opportunity to stir things up in front of the media.
That was incredible... I was hanging on the edge of my seat.... I need more....
It's not too late to throw her off the ship.
I'm just wanting the poor little girl to have both her parents back...
Come on a journey of thought with me.
Imelda's first action has always been to look for a wealthy member of midst inner society and invest them in the trust.
This seems standard for a notary, but subtle signs indicate her angle of attack is pointed toward her own interests rather than any faith in the religion.
This is not the actions of a fully-faithful first contact to evangelize. She was high up, and sent herself to this backwards dirtball to take advantage of the opportunity.
What opportunity? If she could find someone gullible enough (weepe) to buy in at just the right moment, she could set things up to create a upper level trustee. Once he is embeded, she will show the paperwork proving his elevation was unwarrented and have power in a i made you i can unmake you setup.
What follows after is a stalin general secretery becomes supreme ruler through controlling things behind the scenes.
I agree entirely. I suspect that despite the affable way patrons refer to Weepe, those in the know are aware he is intelligent, unscrupulous, tenacious, dangerous, and especially prideful.
Making him perfect prey for her machinations- so she flatters him while presenting as an easy mark for him to manipulate.
By the time he fully realizes what’s happening, it’ll be too late- I mean, it’s already too late now and I think his shock, anger, pride, and greed have prevented him from seeing the situation clearly yet.
She also won’t even need to threaten him, she makes pointed statements that convey the danger without highlighting her obvious malevolence.
Spahr *wants* to blame her for what happened, yet internally he fully believes it’s entirely his fault.
Interesting that Imelda sent Phineas when she did- he was supposed to be working on the classified investigation at the time, an investigation which could make or break him. He’s also under fierce scrutiny and feeling increasingly desperate. She also likely knows Tzila was part of the investigation- and her father’s name is on the list of people she sent Phineas to retrieve.
I’m not saying she knew what Phineas would do, but I think she knowingly sent a desperate person into a volatile situation- and she is not entirely blameless. Spahr has the most reason to accuse her, but she’s led him to ‘realize’ that it’s all his fault.
God I love this series please never stop making it!
Imelda is more and more getting a spot on my dislike-o-meter, that VERY few female characters reach - up until now only Dolores Umbridge and Cercy Lannister.
*Cersei
And yeah, fully fucking agreed lol
I wonder if Weepe's voice is getting messed up because he's now being exposed to so much micro mica in the air? All of that getting into his system might be causing a ton of mini-tearors throughout his body.
Is Spahr the newest protagonist to join this motley crew of monsters and bastards and ne'er-do-wells. Welcome to the club, the Midsties are ready for more complicated emotions.
I'm starting to truly hate the whole being under the name of Imelda Goldfinch. Can't wait to see what she'll do next
You're not kidding that Season 1 was essentially set-up for the REAL story. I'm equal parts mystified and eager for the find out more. Well done, all.
I had the hunch that Lark, is the most moral character of the trio.
She has got herself in a variety of trouble becuase of it.
Wow, Imelda is even more of a diabolical bastard than Moc Weepe
Oh boy, it’s noon! 🎉
mid-day mid-week high-noon... you get it.
@@christopherkecun8349"It's Full Sunlight..."
Oh fuck. I just caught up after binging since the release of the Sam & Marisha Q&A. Now i have to wait for weekly releases? Drop it all on me like the moon. I NEED more Midst
It's heeeereee! I was waiting the whole week
How do they keep creating masterpiece after masterpiece every single episode. Like normally the sequel or the second season of a show or movie has the trope of being bad. But literally every single episode just gets better than the The one before
it took me a while to warm up to Midst, but holy hell, its so fucking good now. im gonna go buy something from their shop!
Oh, dude, this is so short T_T by the way, does Weepe's voice seem a bit... Weak and unhealthy? It can't be just bad voice acting, Weepe must be going through something tearror-y? Also, the line when Imelda kinda recruits him to do administration is brilliant and cracked me up for good xD
Somehow the detail that caught my attention most was that medical case Weepe is still holding on to. What's that thing for, exactly? Why is it so important for him? What will happens if (when) he eventually looses it? Where did he send the samples of the black stuff to last season and for what purpose? So many unanswered questions surrounding that little medical case.
There's a lot still unanswered about it, but I think some things can be gleaned from context: for one thing, it is referred to as a _medical_ case, and Weepe states point blank that he'll die without it. It's probably the same case that appears in s1e12, when Weepe is interrupted by Concord whilst trying to siphon black stuff out of his veins. In that episode, Weepe was in a lot of pain, and seemingly withdrawing the substance (using a syringe from the case) in order to alleviate it.
What exactly the black stuff is, why it's inside of Weepe, and who he's sending those packages to may be a mystery... but evidence suggests Weepe has a medical condition that would become fatal if left untreated, and that's what the case is for.
@@thallium6754 I do get all of that. I even called it a medical case myself. But none of those details do really answer anything. They just raise more questions. As usual with Midst.
We do also know that Weepe had some sort of a fold incident at some point in the past. And I'm assuming that caused his weird and unique black-stuff-and-pain medical case - along with his unusual skin and eye color. But that's really just speculation.
So, why does he need to siphon that black stuff from his veins? How often does he need to do that? (I'm assuming about once a day, because I seem to remember it being mentioned how he was usually sending his packages every day.) What will happen if he doesn't do do it? Does he have to use a specific syringe for that purpose or could he easily substitute it with any other (medical) syringe? There's got to be something like that on the Trust ship, right? And at some point in this season, Imelda will be acompanied by a "monster". Will that monster be Weepe? Will he be a literal monster? Will his medical case be the reason he will be that monster? Or is this just another red hering?
And what is going on with Weepe's voice?
So, yeah... evidence suggests. But the narrators are good at suggesting some very misleading things that turn out not being the case after all. So I'm very intreagued here and not willing to jump to conclusions yet.
Thank you , l am really enjoying this on my subway trip to and from work.
Imelda was a menace from minute 1, but seeing her in this episode, you can tell that she isn't the best at playing the game. She IS the game.
I love Spahr's design, and character designs in general. Incorporating valor beads into trustees uniforms is genius 🤠
Edit: the parallels between him and Phineas... Ow. Well written characters
"What the fuck? You serious?!"
Coming from WEEPE of all peopl made me chuckle. GODS, you guys are good!
Yusss! MIDST is so good!
Imelda is new lead villain. Huge Prof Umbridge vibes from Harry Potter. Villain power struggle and she barely flexed.
Oh! what a tangled skein we have here!
imelda=umbridge. the moment i first heard her i knew she would be trouble
😳 I can say listening to this while driving may cause other drivers to look at your emotional outbursts oddly. 😅
"... what the people needs to hear" said no propagandist ever
I did not think I could despise someone more than Dolores Umbrige, but here we are.
Good stuff! I wish it was a little longer, though.
I saw someone say it once but ill say it again. Imelda gives full Umbridge vibes.
Imelda is like that Karen chick from Harry Potter. I can picture her wearing that blue, Clinton looking, pantsuit.
Weep gonna be weeping
I was thinking it for awhile, but this episode solidified that Imelda is basically the Umbridge of Midst. And I hate her :)
Well...those lines got jumped pretty fast. Thought I had a good grasp of the various villains. Who knew everyone would be switching sides to the point I don't know who's good, who's bad, & who's ugly!?!
Desire to put emilda on a spike, rising
Sphar could fix it by showing Imelda a short walk to a long drop and claim she died on Midst..
Great story
TBH, I would have thrown that evil Ismelda off the ship, plummeting to her death. "She tripped."
People like Imelda terrify me
This gets some getting used too, but it gets there.
Imelda is a master manipulator and now Spahr and Weepe know it. Imelda was giving Umbridge vibes before, but now is so much more dangerous. Umbridge was a tool, Imelda is a wielder of tools.
So any suspicions that the cruise ship from the first episode wasn't attached to any random Mica shard? But maybe Midst's moon?
That woman is the devil, Bobby Boucher!
Imelda us the most scary figure. Brrrr
From the moment we met Emilda, I knew that she was going to be a problem. And here we are.
MORE I WANT MOOOOR
Umbridge.. i mean imelda is definitely the big bad
Midst to infinity
Question to those that listened to Midst already: How far along was the story? Up until the end of season 2?
Yes, there were 2 seasons released, both with 19 episodes. :)
IT'S SO SHORT
I know it's terrible lol I need more now but I poor XD
So who do you resonate with the most rn? (No expo needed, but welcome if need be) For me, its Spar. Y'kno, just to be fair. 😊
Probably weepe, but I'd aspire to be a saskia.
Just gonna scooch on past ya...
Anyone else notice the background music is louder this season?
I like the music a lot but it might be mixed just a bit too loud at certain parts and the dialogue gets hard to hear
Yes!!!!!!!
This is incredible. Also First
The money that was converted into valor? Oh, it's all gone now. Dollars turned to pennies (if they're lucky) during the Valor crash.
Edit: I'm currently still enjoying Imelda... BUT... she's drifting toward Dolores Umbridge territory.
I love the bits with Imelda, she is so good at being the most insidious person. Umbridge slowly gained control of a school, and was more obvious in her passive aggression, which I think made her more annoying for me.
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