Is Watchtower a Cult?
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I am sure that many of you have heard that Watchtower has been compared to a cult or even a doomsday cult. But What is the basis for this? are there specific characteristics with which they identify? Well in this video, we will compare cult characteristics and elements of indoctrination to actual Watchtower policies in order to make this determination.
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Watchtower is predicting their own demise; when I look at the Governing Body, they have guilt written ALL over their faces. They know exactly what they're doing. They will not escape.
this vidieo is right on! Thanks!
This video is one hundred percent right !!!!!!!
It is obvious "the end" is a GB "we gotta go to heaven now" (wt10/2019) with the billions, very very BRILLIANT "it is the end of the world brothers!, head for the bunkers!" total smokescreen pretext cover. By the time JWs find out it was just "the end of the JW Org world", they will be looted and many of them will be sitting in prisons, in the cemeteries, and in "unmarked graves", via the GB Pied Piper "bunkers" to doom. They will even loot JWs personal assets from all who do carpool to those death-trap "bunkers". No one seems to believe these GB Goons are actually that evil. But, they are worse than that. Just wait and see. (Matt24: 15-16)
@@markskyscraper8092 most perfect 👌 description of WT/GB ever!! Oh man, I captured it screen-shot, and will re-share it. HalleluYuh and rich berekah (blessing) to you!
Back in mid 80's I was being forced to stay in a marriage to a man that was drug addicted, abusive physically, mentally, emotionally, verbally, and spiritually. He passed away from his drug addiction 28+ year ago. The elders, in the library, told me I was the problem and that there was nothing wrong with him. They publicly reproved me for "reproaching my husband"... best thing they could have ever done. Something snapped in me and I left and never looked back.
Ah the old “library” routine. I’m sorry you had to endure that. It’s despicable. Sadly you weren’t the only one, many have been put through the JW machine which looks at women/sisters as second grade citizens. Then they contradict their treatment of women by using that scripture that a husband should love his wife as he loves himself. But no, that’s in word only.
Seeing how the wrong person is blamed for someone else's behaviour is sickening to me. It only goes to show how the jdubs are a big part of the problem and how they make a person feel so alone and controlled more. Man, I am so glad I am gone from there. I am sorry for what you endured. I hope you are doing well today and I send hugs your way.
You are so articulate and well informed. I truly appreciate your videos. I was raised as a witness and intolerable abuse was suffered for many years. I freed myself and like you, lost everyone but my Mom who, although she remained a witness, would not leave me. Keep doing what you are doing. You are showing people that there is life after Watchtower and you can know the love of Christ.
Jeremiah 17:5 5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord. Scripture says that anyone who trusts in man is cursed. Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.
You can't make the gb your golden calf. They will not lead you out of egypt, nor the wilderness or to the promised land. Following men is idolatry. Idolatry is extreme adulterated devotion, exaltation, glorification, magnification, worship, loyalty in allegiance to someone or something that takes the place of our Lord, King and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Father I ask in the name of Jesus you would continue to increase your reach through your people!! We proclaim deliverance to the captives!!! Open their eyes!!
Amen
A beautiful heart , beautiful voice , beautiful woman telling truth.
Very kind, thank you.
I made my escape as a teenager in 1970. Like you said no internet or support in place. It was emotionally, spiritually and physically difficult. I was astounded to find these channels about three years ago. I have a lot of experience with the Watchtower. It is both a disgusting and foolish organization. I enjoy your channel, sis.
Thanks, brother. ❤️
Leaving the ""organization " is a very
Emotional experience for all of us
Who feel the pressure of their control. But doing so is a steph in
Finding happiness and self respect.
Thank u, sister, for encouraging us
To do it. Jesus is there to help u.
@Kirk Peters - what made you leave in 70? -- if you don't mind sharing
@@Ava2969ny I didn't believe many of the teachings. The worldwide destruction of all except JWs for example. Double standards and hypocrisy in the congregation. All of the restrictions. No friends outside of the kingdom hall, no sports and musical instruments. JW step mother who was a vindictive and cruel bitch. It all added up to bullshit in my mind. Turns out I was right about that. There were other complications but that's basically it.
Herbert w. Armstrong, worldwide church of God, same thing. Complete with the magazine
"Plain truth" - full of wackyness.
People who are in a cult don't believe that they are in a cult. 💗
After Herbert W Armstrong died, the WCOG went mainstream, and became Grace Communion International. Many of the members and ministers formed other churches that conformed to Armstrong’s teachings. I’m sure JWs would do the same, because after Rutherford took over the Watchtower, people formed other groups that still reprint Russell’s books, and believe his shizzle down to this day.
@@jeffpeff One cult begets others, then they just drizzle different shizzle...to get bling bling.
@@jeffpeff It sounds like their god is 'a god of confusion' instead of being sent a clear message.
you are a fantastic teacher. also your new hairdo rocks sister ...keep teaching..many thousands of witnesses will be freed from the cult..xxoo
Thank you ❤️
Thanks again for your videos, Lord bless you, from northern Ireland uk
hello sister another great video and I will be sharing with others thankyou for all the hard work you do to help some of this goog people to wake up , too bad many of them don't want to see it we just have to keep praying for them .God bless you sister 💞
3rd one down, Yolette Milord, made a great comment. they are all so guilty and predicting their own demise. I just hope I can live long enough to see the end of them happen, so they can't hurt anyone else ever again. P.S. I love your video's and your people.
I tell another part of my JW story. You know i was truly lost when i was 18-19, i started to believe in God, but i did not know what denomination was the true one, i searched and searched. Well, at one time i walked to our local church at night and prayed on the church steps and said "Please show me true way! Show me what is right". The next morning Jehova's Witnesses was on my door for the first time(:D). I took this as Divine Intervention, my prayers were answered i thought, oh boy, it was surely God who sent them to my door. I believed that because i did not believe in Trinity you see, and here comes a group that does not believe in Trinity either. God really wanted me to see how is the life in non-Trinitarian religions and then lead me away from them, i did became a Christadelphian too at one point(non-Trinitarian as well), with the Christadelphians it was perfect, they believed in everything i did too(at the time), i even got baptized...and yet it all crumbled in few weeks. When the newness of this new religion started to fade so did my faith as well. I was truly lost, and little by little God showed me that i had been wrong, REALLY REALLY wrong about Him all the time. After i realized Trinity is real it all started to fall in place...i did a few misstep along the way, but here i am now. Safe and sound in true faith. Sure i still LIKE denominations and wanted to find myself a group that i belong(i am now a Lutheran by the way, belonging to a Fifth Revival Movement that is part of our Evangelical-Lutheran Church here in Finland), but i finally understood that it is not the religion or denomination that matters, but your personal faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and the repentance of your sins. I still don't understand why i deserved such a gift from God, that he lead me step by step to the truth. I was a horrible person...i really was, and yet God loved me and still does and takes care of me. Writing this makes me want to cry to be honest. Now i am trying to become an Evangelist, i want to spread the Gospel everywhere...ironically though i am suffering from anxiety and social phobia. Perhaps the Lord will cure this as well when i start to Evangelize to the people. I can't say what lies ahead in my future(only God knows), but i know it will be great as i am with Jesus and the Holy Spirit within me will strengthen me wherever i go. :)
Keep looking up Tommi Koistinen.........the KING is coming !!!
GOD bless and keep you and the Christian family
Grace and peace
Gilly wife of Mark
Very good video, thank you. I officially walked out of this cult two days ago by letter of dissociation. Great to be out!! Greetings from South Africa...
GOD bless and keep you Johann.......keep looking up......the KING is coming !!!
Grace and peace to the Christian family
Gilly wife of Mark
How you know if your in a cult is when they phone you if you're missing meetings and telling you we can give you a ride plus they take no for answer plus we can live normal life like most people in the world it's annoying 😤 if I start a family of my own I wouldn't want my wife and kids go through what went thru when I was a teenager 😂
This cult is why I dont have children . I was a born in jw . Many people in the hall I went to committed suicide . And you know how Armageddon is all ways right around the corner . I hate this cult .
@@yeahrightmansure852 I'm sorry to hear that I know what you mean I been thru that they always say Armageddon is getting near it's all they could think of instead of getting a career in the world
@@yeahrightmansure852 I know a long time friend who had committed suicide a few years ago. Awful.
Awful is right, you guys. I sometimes wonder, how is this going to end? Think about it, Jim Jones, David Koresh and so many others… Look at what happened when they realized that their end was near, That their lies were discovered. Watchtower is now in their shoes. They are done. I pray that they just dump the real estate and disappear, pretend they got raptured or something. I’d rather see the lost sheep left wondering-I believe they have a better chance of surviving.
@@JWEscape Yup. I think that the governing body will say something about the great tribulation has started, or will leave the elders to announce it at local congregations, and then disappear with millions of dollars and go live in the tropics somewhere, while the rest of the flock will try to carry on. What a terrible joke to play on people. I'm still angry at the governing body.
I àm so happy to listen to you.l am also an apostate. Thank you so much for all your work. Nancy
Lol the whole apostate thing is so funny, when In reality they are the apostates. 😊
Thank you!!!!!! for this video its been a great help to me,
all your videos have helped me to keep my eyes and my mind open.
I always thoroughly enjoy listening to your Video's my Dear Sister!!!! You nail it every time!!!
Hi Lily! Thank you. ❤️xo
Your videos are absolutely superbly done. God bless you! Do you have an email?
Jesus founded a (one) Church in Mat 16:18, he appointed and authorized his apostles and Peter in particular, who got the power of binding and losing. The apostles appointed and authorized other men and handed down this power by laying on hands and so on. In the way you get an unbroken line of authorized successors until this very day. The JWs cannot trace their authority to Mat 16:18, they assume it.
Enjoyed your presentation very much, Sister, especially the fact that you have taken Jesus as your Exemplar, and left sinful, would-be leaders behind.
- tell a Christian someone left the Moonies and you hear "Praise the Lord"
- tell a JW someone left the Moonies and hear... crickets
I wonder if jw cart duty and knocking on doors has been stopped like the meetings?
yes the knocking on the doors have stopped due to the C-19 and same with the cart
the meeting are being done over zoom and JW's are encouraged to do cellphone wittnessing, letter writing, and bible studies over Zoom or face time. and hand out the JW.ORG cards.
the overseer said that JW'S need to be ready for the hailstorm message
Im Glade to be out!!!!
@@amyparker351 Hailstorm message "it is the end" that will end up turning into the final global JW laughing stock fail, as the Gb loot the place then "split to heaven". But, we may get a crisis out of this for the handy "see, it is the end" "proof", but it will pass as usual. They just need the right set of global events to "start the end of the world" of the JW org, from its own self fulfilling prophecy.
Shunned ones are most at risk of suicide I bet they didn't put that in the publications
At 9:00 I just realized yeah...my mom always paid for her magazines and always wondered as a kid how that worked out? We pay for the literature, go on field service and take the money and put it in the treasury thingy and repeat. My mom would always let me and my brother keep the 25 cents for each magazine we sold as I'm sure she wanted us to keep positive in moving the literature and of course as we got older be got a big bonus for selling books. Damn now THAT...was a big deal. I never thought about it that way but as JT and Lady Cee always say...it's a book publishing business and need our free labor which equals profits. I would always help clean the kingdom hall and my brother and I and Pop would always mow and edge the grass and detail the hall etc. and I was proud of what we did with suck pride ands zealous. I felt good. I would do anything to contribute to repair or paint or help in anyway I could to make our kingdom hall the best and I had such pride. As I got older in my teens I smelled bullshit and just didn't care anymore and decided to leave and lucky for me my parents didn't kick me out but I moved into my grandparents house for a bit then came back home and since I wasn't going to meetings I had to have a Friday bible study with my Pop since I was under his roof and it sucked but I did it until eventually my whole woke and jumped ship and left and became a tighter family and enjoyed our weekends free and not going to meetings or field service anymore lol. But yeah I get it ....we were in a cult and we left in the 90's. Love your video and channel. I would love to see you on JT and Lady Cee's channel in an interview. A+++
The part where you spoke of those who left . and there struggles . Well put.
Your great at putting these vids together
Thanks Elaine
The so called GB they know exactly what they are doing!!!!!!!
Not even Jesus entrusted Himself to man, why do the jw's then? John 1:23-25 Now when he was in Jerusalem at the passover, in the feast day, many believed in his name, when they saw the miracles which he did.
24 But Jesus did not commit himself unto them, because he knew all men, 25 And needed not that any should testify of man: for he knew what was in man.
I am thankful for you and your videos! Reading a real Bible has opened my eyes. I was threatened with violence and actually attacked When threatened to injure my little children I left.
Lord bless you dear, I didn't grow up in it as you did, wish the very best for you. :)
Wow this Netflix video is depicting JW 100% way of being a cult, Thank you for your good work appreciate.
Hi, I'm still waiting for you to tell people how and where we should partake in communion!!
Hi there. Jesus only said to do it in remembrance. He did not say how often and he did not say where. It’s usually performed in churches but many people just do it at home.
JW Escape thank you. How do you partake? Do we just go to any Church denomination? Which one has the truth? So, if I take some bread and wine tonight at my house, is that then partaking as Christ commanded?
I do my communion with bread and grape juice, pray verses over it, then say a prayer.
@@vigilantchristian6314 if you pray and believe then yes
@Tony if you would like to tell me where you live, I would be more than happy to research a good church in your area. But don’t reply to this because the chances of me seeing your reply are very slim. Email me at JW escape777@gmail.com. Taking communion for me is a little bit overwhelming because I consider it such a privilege. Usually a church will either pass the emblems out or will have them on tables and the people can come up and take the emblems back to their seats. There’s usually soft music playing And people can pray silently or think about what Jesus actually did for us and thank him for blessings, pray for any forgiveness that we need. Then usually the pastor will get up and explain what the bread is and then everybody will take the bread at the same time. He’ll do the same for the wine. It’s really so beautiful and I do enjoy it. It’s such a special time between you and Jesus. You also can do it in your own home. Get some bread and some wine and read the Scripture out loud, pray to Jesus in your heart or out loud acknowledge what he did for you and partake. Let me know how it goes. ❤️
So well expressed . Another mark of a cult is that they have one person or one group who claims to be specially enlightened, who God speaks through. However the Bible was completed way back around the year 100. It is complete; there is no new light. Anyone can pick up a Bible and learn from it - and God will speak to their heart directly if they are sincerely seeking Him. Jesus is the Mediator between God and man. There is no middle man; each human has direct access to Jesus. This "faithful and discreet slave" was merely a character in a parable, just as was the householder, the thief, and other characters.
I was devastated what happened to me in this religion. My poor mama and brother so smart but still believe. Wish they would wake up! I could write a book!
You should!
Thank God u are free only Jesus Christ save he alone is life 🙏
Good morning, I actually stumbled across this last night. I left the cult 30+ years ago. And nothing has changed. Sounds like same garbage and tactics. I will be listening and following. I am a born again believer saved by the blood of Jesus Christ.
Praise God, my friend. Welcome to my channel.
lovely lady, you are god's creation,.. and he only makes the best
I left the jws instantly. I went back to the military,martial arts, and weightlifting feeling I just HAD to protect my children. An elder came by. My wife was a jw, daughter of an elder. The elder said that they could not disfellowship me for going back into the military so I was considered disassociated but that Im really disfellowshiped! Another elder, my wifes father came by and challengeded me to a death match saying that he and the holy spirit would grind my bones to dust. Finnally, I contacted the elders and asked to meet. at the meeting Itold them all of it and said, if you really want to attack and kill me, all of you stand up and let's get it on. They were speechless so I promised that I would always protect and defend my children, and walked out. I hated religion. I became a badass. Just not toward inocents. I just never tolerate abuse. I have lived decades feeling that God and Jesus were without love and mercy.Only recenty did I get a Bible and search for God. I was a military officer but my main love was my children. I got out to spend more time with my babies and we are very close. Still, from time to time, the indoctenation causes me distress. Videos like yours compel me to keep going. Thank you so much for your clear explanations.
At the age of 19 from Jan '76 to Aug '76 I was loosely involved with a Christian cult called "The Church of Bible Understanding". I met "Joe" who with another member knelt down with me had me say a prayer & I got "SAVED". The head of this "Church" was an older "hippie" looking man Stewart Traille about 40yo then and currently living on a large estate in Florida if he's still alive. After a few months of hanging around "Joe" says to me that maybe I had not been really "SAVED" as I had not yet " Led anyone to Jesus" AKA "Bearing fruit" (Brought someone into the group) and cited John 15:6 "If a man does not abide in me, He is cast forth as a branch and withers (The vine is pruned) and the branches are gathered,thrown into a fire and burned. Also cited was Rev 3:16 "So because you are lukewarm neither cold nor hot I will spew you out of my mouth". All words of Jesus Christ.
It was suggested that to help & strengthen my faith , that I should move into the "fellowship" their apartment . I declined and disassociated from the group. I had a reserved, quiet personality and was definitely not a salesman or preacher type of person that was going to try to convince others to join up. The fact is I'm wary of sales people in general including: Automobile,Timeshare,Telemarketers Joel Osteen, Motivational speakers,etc. Why would anyone walk the streets and talk to random disinterested strangers? I notice that they seem to be motivated By a sense of guilt and obligation (Now that you have the Good News you MUST go and tell EVERYONE you meet or you shall perish and suffer if you don't. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED).
Fast forward 30 years ( 20 of those spent as a Police Officer & retired) Now living a quiet life in a rural area. I've been getting visits about every 6 months from a very nice older JW man for the past 12 years. He's not pushy but seems to have this sense of obligation to make these short appearances at my door. We agree that the Catholic Church(I was Catholic as a child) has accumulated a lot of false nonsense over hundreds of years. What he doesn't know is that I see JW as also having a lot of questionable nonsense also and that I see the "Governing Body" as equal to the Catholic Vatican. A lot of POMPOUSNESS.
Vatican can be traced to the early apostolic church. Faith and church described in writing from 1-3 centuries are closest to traditional Catholicism. St. Peter went to Rome with keys of stewardship and authority. It's beyond me how people can criticize the CC and at the same time join groups started in XVII-XiX c in UK or USA based on ideas and personal Bible interpretations.
Nice video! 📹 👌
i left the organization and now i realized how much i have to do everything i want.
The fact that you leave the organiztion doesent mean you are a bad person, they want you to think that.
Great video!
2 Thessalonians 2:4
who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God
Paul clearly talking about certain members of the Governing body here. They will be judged soon enough, for stumbling many, as prophesied. How many JWs do you know that have been stumbled by their teachings and laws?
How many died because of their teachings and laws? My family members have shunned me for 30 years because of their teaching and laws. Very sad.
@@JWEscape Yup. We're shunned by family when we become a JW and then get shunned by JWs when we leave. So we have to start from scratch! That is so unloving and Satanic.
@@JWEscape I agree. Very sad indeed. The governing body are similar to the Pharisees of the 1st century. Teaching command upon command to their followers as stated in Matthew 23:4 They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
Jesus continued in Matthew 23:27,28 Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. 28 In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
Sound familiar?
The first time I studied with a witness they seemed to put an emphasis on explaining what the word "Christ" means "anointed".
They wanted me to see Jesus as becoming "Christ" at His baptism (which is false).
But I couldn't put my finger on why in the world the writers of the publication we were studying would want us to know that "Christ" means "anointed".
But then I was reading my Bible one day and came across this scripture:
"For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Christ,' and will lead many astray." (Matthew 24:5)
This could also be read:
"For many will come in my name, saying, 'I am the Anointed,' and will lead many astray."
Such a great video covered it all . What about the bunker fear porn videos . When I showed my mother the bunker video that the jws made , it was off youtube she did not believe it was real . So she spent hours on jw.org searching then she found it . Lol I hate this cult .
Yeah, the Bunker video would have been a great addition! I wonder where they got the guns for that.
@@JWEscape next to the liquor cabinet 🤔 thanks for the reply and your videos I was a 3 generation born in jw I left at 19 and i will be 36 this march 30 th . 17 years I have been out but only about 5 years ago I started to research and learned where this cult came from . And I know it's not the truth i could write a book on the things I saw and did in the hall I was in . Bad times , molestations, suicide , lots of people took their lives in are hall , local needs talks that were directed at friends and family . Lol but were free know and jesus did that for all of us . Thank god .
Wow, you are kidding. That’s terrible. I guess I was just blissfully ignorant of what was going on in our hall. But I hated being there so I probably just didn’t notice. Liquor cabinet, very funny!
And the so called GB daylight croks!!!!!!!!
Literature isn't sold anymore since around 30 years i guess and is for free also for the publishers.
The rest what you said is so true - iam sorry for my self to believed it...but what you can do if you are a 'born in' till you develop critical thinking started through a major event in your Live? Often you stuck because its all you knew. Thanks for showing also other side of the story for developing an own opinion.
Big compliment - youre are moreof a Biblescholar than every JW i ever heard o read.
As being a born in JW I can say full confidence this religion is a cult, I'm 21 years old now and had doubt for years, I don't believe in what the watchtower teaches and consider myself an atheist. My mom Is a strict jw mom and It's rough, I still go to the meetings but I only do it because I'm currently living with her, If the religion wasn't a cult then people would be able to choose to think for themselves, you get to choose what is right and wrong, and are able to leave and not be judged or shunned for it. but since it is a cult (and a dangerous one at that) It has altered my relationship with my mom, she want's a daughter who will serve jehovah to the fullest and wants me to get baptized (Yes I'm lucky I am not baptized) she says if I don't serve jehovah then I'm the biggest disappointment to her and she will blame herself as to why I'm not spiritual. (as she says to this day) If that isn't cultish thinking I don't know what you would call it then. and she honestly believes that the cornavirus is jehovahs day and that the end is very near. (HOW BIZARRE!) so yes watchtower is a cult and one that I am ashamed to be in. I hate hate hate this cult!
Thank you so much for sharing. I’m so sorry you are going through this. ❤️
@@JWEscape Thank you. I am glad you and so many others are making videos about watchtower, It gives me hope that one day I will fully get out.
Sister the Son (Jesus) has set you free indeed!
Amen and amen, brother.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
job well done🌹🌹🌺🌷🌷💜💜💜
The governing body members aren't leaders. They only take the lead. I just love their double talk. It's almost as good when they say, we don't shun. Then show videos explaining how to do it. The Jehovah Witnesses are such liers. My parents hated it when someone at the door, told them that they were members of a cult. WE ARE NOT A CULT!!! They said. I was just a kid and I didn't know what a cult was. When I read how you can identify a cult, I was like, holy ----! This is a cult! I knew better than to say that in front of my parents though. But, I knew that we were. A year after Armageddon (1975) I was out of there. Years later my parents would try to get me to go with them to the meeting. Nope. I'm done with that.
What surprised me at first, was that the org. members who left this cult became evolutionist or atheist, that's when I knew they could not be Christians because no one can leave Jesus once knowing Him, after receiving Him into their hearts. I could be kicked out of a church, but no one can separate me from the love of God that is in Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. I see my sister so full of fear and burdened by the weight the org. governing body places upon them. I never see the joy of Christ that surpasses understanding.
After researching cults, Watchtower seems most like the FLDS. The governing body is most like a team of Warren Jeffs. All cults seem to develop and evolve into certain patterns of behaviour. Now I am just waiting for the governing body to start stepping up its efforts to interfere with relationships and marriages and/or new efforts at land grabs of followers (like ordering them to bequeath everything to them). However, they are starting to fracture now that all of their lies are showing up online and people can read the inconsistencies and nonsense for themselves.
I noticed a lot of elderly JW's that have been JW's since the 1970's and their JW children (and grandchildren?) but not that many converted via all the door knocking. Had expected the congregation would have grown since the 1970's but it hadn't, strange also that their catchment area has doubled since the 1970's due to all the new houses built, this would suggest a failure of luring in fresh blood as the numbers are only maintained by JW's having children that they drag to the Kingdom Hall.
What is your motivation for being a Christian?
Would you be angry if the unbeliever next door received the same reward that you do on the day of judgement?
Why?
Is it about comparisons, being better or more than someone else?
What is your motivation to live as a Christian? Would you prefer another life?
Is it to escape punishment? Or to receive a reward?
These are not motivations of love.
If one's motivation is not love, one will not remain eternally with Christ, who is love.
Our motivation should be to be freed from sin, to share in God's grace of love and mercy, and to do God's will.
All these things we can pursue now.
This is why we should live as Christians, and this is the reward we seek.
Surely, we should rejoice if others who do not now live as Christians, one day live as Christians and share the grace of God?
It is not about a controlling organization trying to dominate others like the Vatican or Watchtower, using both fear and greed, threats of punishment and promises of vain rewards.
It is indeed about being part of the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, the body of Christ, being motivated by love.
God is love, and all who love their neighbours as themselves are of God.
Out of curiosity, was it expensive to buy the books in the Kingdom Halls and conventions?
This was back in the 80s so I don’t really remember. I think each magazine was 10 cents each and I had to buy about 10 of each. Which meant 40 magazines a month. Now granted, I was a teenager and this was 30 years ago. I don’t remember the cost of the books, maybe a few dollars each.
Hello, if u're pertaining today.. There is no payment for books.
The tracts initially were free, then they started charging for them, a penny each to begin with, then they gradually went up;at least at my hall.
tract scalpers.
What is the draw for jw's to look to the gb? They are seeking a shepherd to feed them, but they are getting false teaching. We know Jesus is our Shepherd, He feeds us and His Holy Spirit teaches us. This is what God is saying to His people, Jeremiah 3:15 And I will give you shepherds ACCORDING TO MY HEART, who will feed you with knowledge and understanding.
May not have the details completely right, but didn't Charles Taze Russell himself once say in response to questions about the costs of running the Watchtower magazine that the day it became necessary to ASK for money was the day they should give up?
Think most of us realize the truth isn't in others it's a personal thing . Sad though many leave their search for GOD because of the pain they feel . i know this from personal experience .
Every religion on the planet claims to be the only true, divinely connected religion. What criteria does anyone use to determine that their beliefs, the religion they’ve attached themselves to is THE RIGHT RELIGION?
Hi I agree with everything you say wish I could talk to u privately over 30 years and I was never happy but my husband says I'm doing this because my sister came in 1966. I have so much to say but dont want to here. I have always been spiritual since i was 7 years old. Love ya thanx forr making things making sense
You can email me at jwescape777@gmail.com. Would love to chat.
I will thankyou
I put this message on another of your videos, I can’t find that scripture you quoted where Jesus said not to follow men, I didn’t write it down, I know there are more then one but the one you read was so good, please may I have that scripture again after my message as I need it I looked in the google and there were scriptures but not the one you read , I need it for a friend that is getting g baptized to the watchtower and I’m trying to save him slowly, he’s indoctrinated and has no idea, he didn’t believe much of what I say so I told him I would give him only bible scriptures so this one was so good, he’s following the g b and I’m sick
Watchtower isn't just a Cult, it's one of the most dangerous Cults on the planet.
A person can be sincere in their faith but if they are sincerely deceived then their faith will not redeem or save. They believe a different God, Jesus and Holy Spirit of the Bible.
great video
Here's my opinion. There's a lot of Truth to what witnesses teach, but there are also many lies, and this is what makes them believable, truth mixed with lies. They are not who they claim to be.
I beg u, what religion did u join and what church do u go now? Newly awoke exjw ....
I went to a Baptist church for a while when I first got out. But the key is to just read the Bible. Start in the book of Romans. Read it from the king James if you’re seeking truth. I’m going to be creating classes on Patreon which will teach you truth from Scripture. Keep an eye out for them, you will learn so much.
The “love bombing” of new ones, yes I hear you. Then after baptism “some things change” yes, a very diplomatic way of describing it… lol - yeah I got into trouble because I told a newly baptized sister “you know in this congregation it won’t always be this way… I told her she’s the flavour of the month. Go figure she told an elder and shortly thereafter I was escorted into the back room.
I will be sending an E-mail saying that Im DA myself, but Im not going to go to no meeting alone (Im a single ex sister)with three men.
GOD bless and keep you sister .
Keep looking up .....the KING is coming !!!
Gilly wife of Mark
I want to get baptized to Jesus as he said in scripture not the way I did to the watchtower, in your opinion is another baptism going to erase my mistake?
Thank you
For me its about 3months since i left
Tell me and how do you get out of the JW ?
I'm interesting to your teaching, I'm a follower of Jesus, my Lord and savior.
Thank you and God bless you
TO FRANK PONIRIS:
It's a blessing that you still believe in the Bible.
According to the Bible, God uses the bodies of modern people to bring that those who have died in the Christ during the 1st resurrection. Christ does not bring back the body, but only the "seed" of the person, that is, just their mind and memory. He implants the memory and mind of a person into a living modern holy one. Thus two individuals share the same body. 1 Corinthians 15:38 clearly says that "but God gives it a body just as it has pleased him, and to each ot the seeds its own body."
So each "seed" or mind of a resurrected one, God implants into a physical body, each seed getting its own body. That's how th3 1st resurrection works. Christ implants the minds and memories of the ones to be resurrected into imperfect bodies still alive during our day. 1 Cor. 15:42-26 is quite explicit how this works:
42 So will it be with the resurrection of the dead [in the first resurrection]. The body that is sown [into] is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44it is sown [into] a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body... 46 The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual."
So the 1st resurrection has TWO PHASES. First physical, then spiritual. So the mind or seed of the resurrected person is placed into a fleshly body, one of corruption and dishonor and weakness. That is, a regular, imperfect body. This happens just before the second coming takes place. They remain in a physical body for the 1000-year reign of Christ. Then after Satan is destroyed, they judge all mankind during Judgment Day. Then after death is no more and there are no more wicked persons, the 1,440,000 saints go up to heaven to be angels with Christ Jesus.
This is a "new wine" teaching. But can you contradict this teaching with Scripture? No, you cannot. As 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18 says, nobody goes to heaven before anybody else, but all "together" change from flesh to spirit. But this does not happen until after Judgment Day. So all the resurrected saints become alive again by being implanted into the minds of living saints with whom they share a body with. But why is that? Because Christ himself is also in a physical body in the very same way.
1 John 3:2 explains this further: "2 Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is."
This confirms that Jesus Christ will be in the same situation as they are. They do not know what kind of body they will have, but since Christ will also be in the body of someone else when he becomes flesh again, they will see him just as he is because he will be like them. That is, sharing someone else's body.
Bottom line: Once you realize that Christ and his 1,440,000 (Isa. 6:13) king-priests will be in fleshly bodies at the second coming and will be ruling from the earth for the 1000 years, the sooner you will understand what is really going on. It wasn't necessary for you to understand this until now.
So if you are one of the chosen saints of Christ, one of the 1,440,000, then it is possible the memory of some ancient anointed one will be implanted into your mind and you'll share the memory of a previous life. Likewise, Christ is also implanted into an imperfect man's body at the second coming. This is covered in the vision of Zechariah 3 where we see high-priest Joshua becoming a king. He appears first with befouled garments, representing his past imperfect life of sin. But he is given "new robes" that are clean and he is forgiven his sins. In the meantime, the "angel of Jehovah is standing by" means that Jesus Christ or Michael the archangel is about to inhabit the body of Joshua. So Jesus Christ is an ordinary man at the second coming. This is what the Bible is teaching us, but you never noticed this before.
Now when Jesus returns in the body of an ordinary man, he must seal the elect into the kingdom while Satan is let loose for a short while. How long is a short while? If it is 30 years, then once Armageddon begins, Jesus will have been already returned for 30 years! In this way, he comes as a "thief in the night" to the world at large. A thief will have come and stolen long before you are aware he has come to rob you.
CONFIRM WHAT I'M TELLING YOU BY SCRIPTURE! Christ is in the body of an imperfect man at the second coming.
Thanks for sharing your video!
Shunning is one of the worst means of manipulation.
It derives spiritually from Judaism where a father would shun his wayward child, You are dead to me.
This replaces the more devastating stipulation in the Law of Moses to stone one's disobedient child to death.
But this is not God's will through Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
The Lord tells the parable of the Prodigal Son who is estranged from his father, yet the father is the one waiting for him in the road. When the father sees his son, he exclaims with joy, My son who was dead is alive again.
This should be our attitude to those who are estranged.
Yes, there are times to avoid toxic people, and sometimes even family members, but not as a form of cruel punishment.
Yes, we are meant to avoid false teachers and not fellowship with falsehood, but again, all we do should be mediated by genuine love.
The Governing Body looks like it should be in a straight jacket.
8:45 on... thank you for describing the "Literature Arrangement" of paying for tracts
- that used to be weekly = $5 x 52 weeks x 5 million Publishers = $1.3 Billion per year
x 60 years = 80 Billion ... and that's obv only tract income... add books, estates etc
- - search "Tower Publishing" online or at JW.org - CT Russell's OTHER Corp.
Wow! Thank you, I certainly will.
The new BETHEL look's to me like a Lakeside resort for sale in the future ,When of course they have the next big LAWSUIT SELLOFF for when the NEED is GREAT !
It was mentioned in the Watchtower in 1968 people need to have mental cleansing. Another word for that? BRAIN WASHING
Yes
The fact is that the Apostles were the foundation of the one Church, but that one Church was comprised of many organizations throughout the world.
The local organizations consisted of the Bishop and the Presbyters and were based in each city, and then the Bishops of the large metropolitan cities acted as the presidents of the council of Bishops in their respective provinces.
There was no organization of Bishops beyond the province except for Rome, Alexandria and Antioch, which had wider authority in their surrounding provinces.
There was no single human run organization for the whole Church, because the One Church of Christ is run by Christ himself. It is his body.
I do not understand how the g b got the members to worship them, as j w s are supposed to worship Jesus, if they study the bible as they claim, how could they miss the scriptures from jesus, ??? What is it, is it the watchtower magazine? I am an ex, I now can see and the thought of worshipping the g b instead of Jesus causes me to be ill
I never had to pay for publications . It was never mentioned. That’s interesting that you had to. I wonder why that is..
It’s because it was all about the money and they made millions and millions of dollars. In one of my recent videos, I showed actual publications with prices on them.
It's that right you had to buy the watchtower magazines?
Yes, I had a quota of magazines that I had to buy every time they came out which was twice a month. Being that I rarely ever had people interested in providing a donation for them, I always ended up with a stack of them that I would just give away and then I would call that a magazine placement.
In God's book of life, the government body names are missing.
it is
Id say its more of a real estate scam....
It is the devil who intends to escape from this planet with his angels, and to destroy earth as he leaves, and to take with him the false Christ, the false Prophet and those persons he will need.
It is God who is the lover of mankind, who has mercy on humans, and who restores the earth, and brings the paradise city of the New Jerusalem from heaven to earth.
Hey Elaine
Do you know Sue Gaskin?
No, didn’t she make some videos a couple of years ago? I believe I’ve seen some of her videos.
@@JWEscape
Yeah shes made a few vids I bet u and her would get on great :)
oh man your beautiful x
Please
No its not
3:50 into the video: "Yes, the destruction of the gross sinners in those cities was eternal." Watchtower 1990 Apr. 15 p. 20 - What! Didn´t Jesus say the judgement of Sodom would be more bearable than for you (the jews)." Mat.11:24 God is not partial. He is longsuffering towards us, because he doesn´t anyone to perish but repent and obtain eternal Life.
Part of jehovahs learning if you read old testament about being tricked that's why we learn when we do daily bible reading .does it hurt when I keep commenting .you reap what you sow .I will pray for you as I'm taught to love my enemy so they get healed as I'm really close to jehovah cause I was brought up by an alcoholic and this is personal as he has helped me x
Cult McCultypants
😂 I like that.
The biggest cult!
Disapline is love was what I was taught and this is directed by scripture .which is in corthians and it says to be unprovoked and long suffering but kind and to reason things out .x so with the teaching from the jws.its up to man to listen or not .but what's taught is love it's just some people are dull of hearing .